Fun fact: captain america has learned every martial art in the world. His combat ability is batman if he was a war-hero instead of a vigilante, and then took Alex jones accurate adrenochrome and vitality boosters
@@GStefanes_ Real. You see characters like Iron man and Logan, Thor, and Peni get so much value, and Cap is just, a fly you have to swap away from your squishies. Do you think they should give him somethiing, or is he fine as-is
@@tumultoustortellini I feel that he should be more of a leader, the guy to charge in while protecting his allies, not a flanker, and I get that's what his ult is for, but is just feels like to little and only a slight homage to his character. Honestly, I would give him a passive that buffs him while his with his allies, maybe a percentage or number based boost based on the number of allies. A few good examples I could think of is giving him 50 max health for every ally, increasing his damage by 2-3% per ally or even just making his shields better, right now it just feels like a weaker Strange shield.
@@stuckincollege1778 Absolutely. The philosophy behind him is "winston in junker queen's body" but I think they should have leaned in into the brig aspect of him. What if he gave really small amounts of armor to the entire team on hitting opponents, like inspire, but for armor and only based on hit, not timing. Then, buff his shield by getting rid of the 1 second cd, and give it a 15% dmg reduction from projectiles He would play like a literal tank brig, but also like pseudo-strategist. It would at least keep him anchored to his team in a more literal way beyond just popping ult
Blocking Rocket heal shots can actually heal your team a little because they bounce around, or bounce them back to yourself for some healing. You can also reflect C&D right click and get the healing aura off that.
@@MrDeathCellit's a joke about the clip At 0:45 in the video we see flats trying to beat the shit out of a cloak and dagger The reason this guy says "nice job in healing them" is because the cloak and daggers health is going up even though flats is beating the shit out of the cloak and dagger Which also just shows how little damage cap can do
Honestly the thing I've learnt with cap, is play him like a duelist-vanguard mix more than a solid vanguard, you have one of the better blocks in the game with it blocking most ults and you're the most consistently mobile vanguards making getting close for damage easy, so that's a decent tip for cap, play a good mix of damage and defense instead of going all in on 1 or the other
@@Fightheavens Yeah... and lacks damage on most of his abilities, gets his shield shattered when at least 1 dps looks in his general direction and, against a competent team, he can get stunned/slept for overextending and die in seconds. Oh, forgot to mention his shield having 1 second for re-deploy, which just makes him feel even clunkier. Am I saying he's bad? Nope. Is he fun to play? Depends if you like running 24/7 and waiting 10 years for the big heal abilities/ults to end so you can finally play the game. Is he scary? If you know his kit, not really. I even see good tank players like ZBRA struggle to fend off one Star-Lord or Iron Fist. Now, of course this can lead to the following question: "bUt wHaT aBoUt StraTeGisTs? ThEy CaN't dO aNytHing aGAinsT CaP!" Jeff/Loki (if played well) will never die to a lone Cap, the rest of the strategists at least have tools to stall him.... well, except for Warlock.
Nah thats wolverines playstyle. Cap can jump around being a nuisance for a lot longer, cap is more durable and has more regen than wolverine lol. Wolverine will just die if he doesnt run away and hide after dash pushing a tank.
I never played OW, but I've been loving Rivals and found you through looking at your shorts that were recommended to me. I was wondering if there were videos you did or explanations on the macro gameplay of the genre that could be applicable to Rivals? Trying to get better and rank up, but it's hard when people DC when they're losing.
The thing about Captain America is if you learn his extensive amount of attack cancels (he has so many it's unreasonable), you can essentially kill any DPS in the game, including the 300 health ones in about 3 seconds. Admittedly that particular trick uses basically every tool you have besides your ult however, bringing out Cap's full potential takes way more effort than it's worth.
@@angelsibrian5085 It's melee shift jump dive into E F. You can also melee melee shield melee into melee shift jump dive, if you are far from an enemy: E F into melee melee shield melee or melee shift jump dive. You can also just go with melee shift cancel when chasing.
@@mickeyboy90 i played against groot hulk and it was absolutely miserable. they legit trapped me inside with the walls and hulk just jumps in and beats the living shit out of me
@ just you wait till you fight a solid wintersoldier or wolverine while you are on tank! You’ll be hunted and have to live in fear as a big scary tank dude 😂
I got a personal record of 46 KO’s with Cap in Comp yesterday. I thinks he’s quite a bit better than people think he is, he just plays different compared to many other characters.
if captain America does negative damage would it be reasonable to make him have more HP than all the other tanks or is that just bad planning on my part?
He deals sufficient damage. If you dive a healer and the other healer is busy healing his teammate that’s huge value. Then your team just kills then all while you are being annoying in the backline.
Love Cap hes so fun to play heecan be a real bully, menace to the enemy team excels in disruption has siiiiiiick escape tools and his mobility is so freaking good. Love his shield combos and his ult can really carry/decide objectives
@ my main support role is Loki. I’ve never seen anyone shoot them and I’ve never thought about shooting my opponents pylon. AFAIK it’s not stated in the game anywhere that they can be destroyed. 🙃
@@TheShadesOfBlack thats craaazy, never even shot a pylon thinking it was the actual enemy loki? I think I mightve found out in the beta and just accidentally shot the pylon when meaning to shoot someone else. not insulting you, I'm just shocked a loki main took so long to realize that
Cap might be weak as a hero, but the amount of psychological damage he inflicts is pretty impressive. Whenever my team is acting cowardly I just switch to cap and go stupid aggressive. Shakes up the enemy and makes my team more willing to push in, especially when they hear the ASSEMBLE
what the hell this has to do with overwatch? lol marvel rivals stans cant just play their game, they just love overwatch SO MUCH that they have a itch making them mention over lol
@terminator1cool734 what about in between that lmao. He's hardly taking damage and it's not because he's blocking it. He's either just not being hit or he's being healed. It's sus. He should be getting focused and killed if the enemy team was any good
Cap is so fun to play honestly, yea he doesnt do the most damage, but damn is he a nuisance and hinderance to the enemy team the entire time. Once you get a sense of what the enemy can do and cooldowns, youll know when you should block their attacks and counter attack. Honestly the only thing I want is no cool down on the block so I can really annoy the enemy.
So basically the best way to play cap is to be a bully to the enemy backline. Sure you ain't doing much damage but a support not healing or an unfocused ranged dps I think is a win for your team. Even better if you have a fellow vanguard or a melee duelist.
you need to use your E as a finisher a lot more than you do. almost every time you used it in that first round was for poke that achieved nothing and then you dont have enough dmg to dive anyone
@MayankGupta-th3wt broken a stretch imo magneto hulk bubble all have a short period shield with no limit of damage negation that's crazy to me and can just dodge ults I say every character is broken all are good but you can definitely tell the favoritism not given to caps shield at least don't make a cool down on putting down the sheild
@@exarack Cap's shield would be broken because then it would have: 1. Infinite HP, so can't be broken like doctor strange's shield. 2. No time limit, cap can hold the shield to his face the entire time like doctor strange, something which magento's magnetic curtain isn't able to do. 3. Reflect any projectile. This would be broken and in a lot of ways. You won't die and can just shoehorn your way in with 0 consequences. Every shield ability has some sort of balancing to it and this is caps'.
imo captain america is the wrecking ball of vanguards. his damage isn't great, but he's extremely annoying and good at forcing aggro. and if he DOESN'T get that respect of aggro, he ends up running trains on the supports and duelists. if i were to buff him, maybe make landing a successful E give him 4 charges, so he uses the ranged melee.
Fun video, but I’m pretty sure you were fighting bots 😅 (You can check by trying to check their careers, if every single one is restricted then it’s bots)
How do you guys rate Cap as a hero? Clearly in the hands of a guy like Flats he's deadly but he feels really weak to me in game. I don't really click with him when I try to play him and usually dispatch him relatively easily even against the better ones I face in my rank. Thoughts?
Everytime Flats runs away the enemies start to feel confident and safe, then he immediately does a 180 and beats freedom into their skulls.
W Freedom
Common Democracy W
"oh good he's gone."
"ASSEMBLE!"
*"ah shit."*
For freedom, FOR AMERICA 🎉🎉
I do this so much in games. I back up, the enemies think I'm weak and run in, and then I eat them.
Playing cap like run around like a headless chicken but the chicken knows basic CQC
Fun fact: captain america has learned every martial art in the world. His combat ability is batman if he was a war-hero instead of a vigilante, and then took Alex jones accurate adrenochrome and vitality boosters
@@tumultoustortellini Accurate, Cap is awesome, but i find him so hard to play 😢
@@GStefanes_ Real. You see characters like Iron man and Logan, Thor, and Peni get so much value, and Cap is just, a fly you have to swap away from your squishies. Do you think they should give him somethiing, or is he fine as-is
@@tumultoustortellini I feel that he should be more of a leader, the guy to charge in while protecting his allies, not a flanker, and I get that's what his ult is for, but is just feels like to little and only a slight homage to his character.
Honestly, I would give him a passive that buffs him while his with his allies, maybe a percentage or number based boost based on the number of allies. A few good examples I could think of is giving him 50 max health for every ally, increasing his damage by 2-3% per ally or even just making his shields better, right now it just feels like a weaker Strange shield.
@@stuckincollege1778 Absolutely. The philosophy behind him is "winston in junker queen's body" but I think they should have leaned in into the brig aspect of him. What if he gave really small amounts of armor to the entire team on hitting opponents, like inspire, but for armor and only based on hit, not timing. Then, buff his shield by getting rid of the 1 second cd, and give it a 15% dmg reduction from projectiles
He would play like a literal tank brig, but also like pseudo-strategist. It would at least keep him anchored to his team in a more literal way beyond just popping ult
0:45 good job flats you are really showing your supporting role by healing the enemy team thumbs up
How did he heal them? Is it loki?
Blocking Rocket heal shots can actually heal your team a little because they bounce around, or bounce them back to yourself for some healing.
You can also reflect C&D right click and get the healing aura off that.
@@MrDeathCellit's a joke about the clip
At 0:45 in the video we see flats trying to beat the shit out of a cloak and dagger
The reason this guy says "nice job in healing them" is because the cloak and daggers health is going up even though flats is beating the shit out of the cloak and dagger
Which also just shows how little damage cap can do
@ireallydontknow278 psa: cap does more dmg with his basic punch than hulk l0l.
@25Jake that's completely beside the point 🤦♂️
Flats teammates when he plays Cap: WTF IS A KILOMETER??!!? 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🇺🇸🔥🔥🇺🇸
"Dropping some freedom in the backline."
Honestly the thing I've learnt with cap, is play him like a duelist-vanguard mix more than a solid vanguard, you have one of the better blocks in the game with it blocking most ults and you're the most consistently mobile vanguards making getting close for damage easy, so that's a decent tip for cap, play a good mix of damage and defense instead of going all in on 1 or the other
It's hilarious how Captain America is the most mobile vanguard.
i feel like you could make an argument for hulk being as mobile if not slightly less mobile, since he's jumping around 24/7
@@torielandcheese1076that's true but jumps overall are pretty slow. So cap is overall way better
@@torielandcheese1076 I don't know if it's a skill issue but I get stunned out of jumps almost every time playing as hulk
@@notsovocal6692when diving right as you jump in or when you start charging your exit jump use your bubble
Something about Cap's playstyle basically being "Be a coward" is very funny to me.
He is super scary tho guy can chase you down so fast
@@Fightheavens Yeah... and lacks damage on most of his abilities, gets his shield shattered when at least 1 dps looks in his general direction and, against a competent team, he can get stunned/slept for overextending and die in seconds. Oh, forgot to mention his shield having 1 second for re-deploy, which just makes him feel even clunkier.
Am I saying he's bad? Nope.
Is he fun to play? Depends if you like running 24/7 and waiting 10 years for the big heal abilities/ults to end so you can finally play the game.
Is he scary? If you know his kit, not really. I even see good tank players like ZBRA struggle to fend off one Star-Lord or Iron Fist.
Now, of course this can lead to the following question: "bUt wHaT aBoUt StraTeGisTs? ThEy CaN't dO aNytHing aGAinsT CaP!"
Jeff/Loki (if played well) will never die to a lone Cap, the rest of the strategists at least have tools to stall him.... well, except for Warlock.
Nah thats wolverines playstyle. Cap can jump around being a nuisance for a lot longer, cap is more durable and has more regen than wolverine lol. Wolverine will just die if he doesnt run away and hide after dash pushing a tank.
I just realized that it's the one and only healer with aimbot that says "hold still I am trying to help"
So you just run at someone, beat them up until they die, they run away from the fight leaving their team one member down or your health gets low.
I find sometimes the threat of pretending you can kill them creates more space and keeps me alive lol
More like, take driveby swings, arm the shield throw, and run away throwing shield and E ability.
What I learned with Captain America is if you say "Boom" and "Big Damage" a lot, you will indeed do the "Boom" and "Big Damage". It's just how it is.
I never played OW, but I've been loving Rivals and found you through looking at your shorts that were recommended to me. I was wondering if there were videos you did or explanations on the macro gameplay of the genre that could be applicable to Rivals? Trying to get better and rank up, but it's hard when people DC when they're losing.
Just play the game ALOT and watch content and you will get better with timen
The thing about Captain America is if you learn his extensive amount of attack cancels (he has so many it's unreasonable), you can essentially kill any DPS in the game, including the 300 health ones in about 3 seconds.
Admittedly that particular trick uses basically every tool you have besides your ult however, bringing out Cap's full potential takes way more effort than it's worth.
Is it melee, melee, cancel into diving leap then melee shield throw?
@@angelsibrian5085 It's melee shift jump dive into E F. You can also melee melee shield melee into melee shift jump dive, if you are far from an enemy: E F into melee melee shield melee or melee shift jump dive. You can also just go with melee shift cancel when chasing.
Killing in 3 seconds is not good at all
"This ones for 9/11"
-Captain america probably
This video could also be named "Flats does Hank Hill impression while running around as Cap" XD
Flats going "Woooooah" sounds like Hank from king of the hill
i did not know cap and hulk was played that much until i looked at t500 gameplay
Yeah you see a lot of Strange + Hulk or Cap/Thor on the Hulk ban.
Hulk is busted strong lol especially his iron man team-up makes iron man either 2 shot squishies or makes his beam like a deathstar laser instead.
@@mickeyboy90 i played against groot hulk and it was absolutely miserable. they legit trapped me inside with the walls and hulk just jumps in and beats the living shit out of me
@ just you wait till you fight a solid wintersoldier or wolverine while you are on tank! You’ll be hunted and have to live in fear as a big scary tank dude 😂
cap and hulk are played on high elo, but this video was recorded on the early days of marvels, when every streamer was a god every game
He protecc he attacc but most importantly he ASSEMBLE!
I got a personal record of 46 KO’s with Cap in Comp yesterday. I thinks he’s quite a bit better than people think he is, he just plays different compared to many other characters.
if captain America does negative damage would it be reasonable to make him have more HP than all the other tanks or is that just bad planning on my part?
Why couldn't they buff the damage?
@mattevans4377too mobile and tanky, if he had good damage too he would be a must pick
they could just add regen to the shield when using certain abilities bc that thing heals up slow
@@randomdudes7441*Looks at Iron Fist* *Looks a Thor*
He deals sufficient damage. If you dive a healer and the other healer is busy healing his teammate that’s huge value. Then your team just kills then all while you are being annoying in the backline.
Btw did you know that if you charge in with your shield up while ulting you'll push enemies?
flats team playing the game as they can
FLats : pum pow , ruuuuun , pum pow XD
I love the chase on Spidey on the second game! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! GET 'IM, FLATS!!! GET 'IM!!! Ha ha ha ha!
"moon knight, more like moonDEAD"
Flats isnt famous for his quips
Now we need a mod where Cap will say BOOM! every time he connects his fist or shield to an enemies face XD.
Love Cap hes so fun to play heecan be a real bully, menace to the enemy team excels in disruption has siiiiiiick escape tools and his mobility is so freaking good. Love his shield combos and his ult can really carry/decide objectives
I had NO idea you could destroy Loki healing pylons
how long have you been playing 😭
@ my main support role is Loki. I’ve never seen anyone shoot them and I’ve never thought about shooting my opponents pylon. AFAIK it’s not stated in the game anywhere that they can be destroyed. 🙃
@@TheShadesOfBlack thats craaazy, never even shot a pylon thinking it was the actual enemy loki? I think I mightve found out in the beta and just accidentally shot the pylon when meaning to shoot someone else. not insulting you, I'm just shocked a loki main took so long to realize that
@@shadylady1 howd you mistake the pylon for loki?
They're like Moon Knights ankhs
Cap might be weak as a hero, but the amount of psychological damage he inflicts is pretty impressive. Whenever my team is acting cowardly I just switch to cap and go stupid aggressive. Shakes up the enemy and makes my team more willing to push in, especially when they hear the ASSEMBLE
Giving the team a moral boost is the most canonic cap's abilities)
Dang straight hands rated E
I like how I'm basically playing cap like Flats showed me
Because running around like that is fun!
I like how people put wolverine in D tier but you see them pretty often in high elo making him work
This is one of the most stressful series of games I've ever seen. If we ever need to induce heart attacks, we just for people to play Cap.
good ol Captain America
my favorite cosmetic hero
The thing I learned the most in this video is that Captain can win any 1v1, but will absolutely loose any fight higher than that
In my opinion, cap is like spoon killer but running fast and throw spoon at enemy. its not much damage, but it will carve its presence.
thanks to you I also started playing Cap and did a massive 5/5, I'm such an Avenger.
3:14 But most importantly, he is Cap.
NOTHIN LIKE SPREADING FREEDOM WOOO 🇺🇸
The way I play cap is to hide the crosshair by making it transparent in the settings. it helps with the cqc
I wish there were 2 Flats so we could see a team where he plays both Thor and Cap!
Anyone else getting dc’d like 2-3 mins into a game. But with 62 ping and 0% on the packet loss notices?
Nope game has played pretty much flawlessly for me
I want more specific specialist/utility characters like Kelthuzad in HoTs, Symmetra in OV type toons.
i wonder if it's intended that he never cancels his left click with run to stick to them like glue
Hey do you have the dash on toggle?
By the way your playing Captain America... I can see your enjoying him way more then the whole game of Overwatch lol
what the hell this has to do with overwatch? lol
marvel rivals stans cant just play their game, they just love overwatch SO MUCH that they have a itch making them mention over lol
MVP stands for most VENOMOUS player, come on Flats
I just learnt you can shoot the invincibility of Loki thanks to this video
Captain America the Marathon Man.
Freedom restored
Now imagine what's gonna happen if they actually let cap do damage to the enemy players
Brawling is so fun in this game
Banning Hela, Hawkeye, Mantis, and Luna is my favorite thing, too.
This should just be called: How to play Cap when you get pocket healed.
YES. hes fucking awful. carried completely.
Bro did you watch how often he went and got health packs? I wouldn’t call that pocket healing
@terminator1cool734 what about in between that lmao. He's hardly taking damage and it's not because he's blocking it. He's either just not being hit or he's being healed. It's sus. He should be getting focused and killed if the enemy team was any good
@@zackayser988 he's not playing ranked, that's probably why
You’re free to give me your lunch money💀
i unironically learned alot
Yoo at this point he should become the rank -1 Vanguard Player to show that he’s evolved
Cap is so fun to play honestly, yea he doesnt do the most damage, but damn is he a nuisance and hinderance to the enemy team the entire time. Once you get a sense of what the enemy can do and cooldowns, youll know when you should block their attacks and counter attack. Honestly the only thing I want is no cool down on the block so I can really annoy the enemy.
So basically the best way to play cap is to be a bully to the enemy backline. Sure you ain't doing much damage but a support not healing or an unfocused ranged dps I think is a win for your team.
Even better if you have a fellow vanguard or a melee duelist.
Thor and Cap go insanely hard together
Does anyone else think that Black Captain America skin that Flats is wearing looks like Iron All Might from My Hero kinda?
Rushes in
Gives Cloak & Dagger medical care
Has to run
Yup, sounds about right for cap
Wow that was awesome to watch :) bom!
you need to use your E as a finisher a lot more than you do. almost every time you used it in that first round was for poke that achieved nothing and then you dont have enough dmg to dive anyone
Is it me or should cap not have hp on his shield considering isn't not meant to break you know
Then it would be too broken. Plus canonically many things can break a vibranium shield.
@MayankGupta-th3wt broken a stretch imo magneto hulk bubble all have a short period shield with no limit of damage negation that's crazy to me and can just dodge ults I say every character is broken all are good but you can definitely tell the favoritism not given to caps shield at least don't make a cool down on putting down the sheild
@@exarack Cap's shield would be broken because then it would have:
1. Infinite HP, so can't be broken like doctor strange's shield.
2. No time limit, cap can hold the shield to his face the entire time like doctor strange, something which magento's magnetic curtain isn't able to do.
3. Reflect any projectile.
This would be broken and in a lot of ways. You won't die and can just shoehorn your way in with 0 consequences. Every shield ability has some sort of balancing to it and this is caps'.
@@exarackhulk bubble only has 350 hp on hulk and 150 on teammates
I feel like cap actually does less damage to magic than she heals off her hits
Lore accurate Cap
my dream team, cap, peni, adam, mantis, hela, spiderman
Why do you turn into Hank Hill when you get into trouble 😂
Literally become the bullet
Cap always looks like hes doing nothing but the value is always insane.
Helldivers Captain America
If it’s a 1v1 in a dark alley always bet on Cap 🇺🇸
imo captain america is the wrecking ball of vanguards. his damage isn't great, but he's extremely annoying and good at forcing aggro. and if he DOESN'T get that respect of aggro, he ends up running trains on the supports and duelists.
if i were to buff him, maybe make landing a successful E give him 4 charges, so he uses the ranged melee.
I must be in hell I play healer my team leave flank wide open I play tank my team has no dps backing me up or healing me
this hero is so easy to use. the only skill needed is knowing when to engage
Miles Morales?
Flats, you are truly America's ass.
"Rank 0 Vanguard" as he plays in unranked...
Is anyone else unable to join flats discord?
REMOVE THE 1 SECOND CD ON RAISING THE SHIELD, I BEG NETEASE
This should be good
except when u duo with a thor and get teamup cap bulgaria can do some serious distruption murderin. legit as strong as iron man teamup from hulk
Dammmn
the way you play cap makes it look soo easy, but it's actually the hardest in my opinion to get value. I strive to make it look this easy.
First! Love the vids Flats, but I would love to see more variety content coming in the future! Keep being you!
Fun video, but I’m pretty sure you were fighting bots 😅
(You can check by trying to check their careers, if every single one is restricted then it’s bots)
4 min 250 views? Bro fell on.
"20 seconds and no views bro fell off"
am i doing this right
"I am a real American; jumping around as fast as I can. I am a real American;
not great in a fight, but I'll run for my life." 🎶
How do you guys rate Cap as a hero? Clearly in the hands of a guy like Flats he's deadly but he feels really weak to me in game. I don't really click with him when I try to play him and usually dispatch him relatively easily even against the better ones I face in my rank. Thoughts?
1 minute and 16 views? My super sigma goat 💪
What I’m getting from this is you should play like a school age kid with ADHD
ZBRA better
This skin is dreadful.
Maybe flats is just really good but i swear alot of his tracking looks weird like its just way to smooth
He's on mouse and keyboard and was a ow monster for years. Chill conspiracy bro.
It’s keyboard and mouse bro 😂