Cap should have a passive that doubles the healing he gets from health packs. I hear "Can’t beat battlefield medicine!" More than any other voice line when playing Cap.
They'l just beg him to play duelist instead, but then he's gonna stomp with wolverine then Wolvy gets banned, then he channels his inner dps doom and go spidey. I can go longer
With the broken sprint camera and unintentionally going too far away from my opponent, I find it much simpler to simply press the sprint button off while I'm participating. I run into a ground slam to catch them if they run.
I love having a Cap on my team. He quite literally leads a team to victory, he is so lore accurate and is an amazing teammate to have. I support my Captain Americas to the best of my ability I have so much respect for the grinders who play him well
Is teammate like u i like to have in my team working together to get the win. Im most of the time solo tank or i have to go support (im plat3) i mostly go Strange but sometimes Cap is needed
@@sirius7180 yeah man, even tho most consider him bad I’ve seen cap perform very well. And if he doesn’t I assume you are just trying to learn the hero. This game is very complex and has a ton of skill expression I’m never mad when a teammate underperforms they might still be learning their new favorite hero
Good buffs for Captain America would be to let his ability hits count towards his shield throw passive. Increased accuracy on shield deflected projectiles, so it goes to your crosshair. And no cooldown on his shield block so he can spam it like strange.
The changes I'd give him would be: 1) Make his ult just be a simple aura buff rather than the "follow-the-leader" thing that he has. That way your teammates don't have to also know how it works to get the full benefits. 2) Let his boosted melee attack shield throws give a bit of cooldown reduction on each successful hit (gives the melee character a reason to aim while also technically buffing his damage and CDs without just being flat boosts) 3) Maybe give his regular shield toss ability a couple seconds shorter on the cooldown so he isn't AS reliant on Thor for longer range pokes and such. I'd say these are all mostly QoL buffs since it rewards you for playing better with him while also making it easier for your team to feel the value of your presence while using Cap's ult.
@JahovasFitness cooldown reductions on shield throw hits sound like a really good change. (Maybe perfect, imo) And although making his ult an aura maybe more practical, I like how it functions rn. Maybe the trails he leaves can last longer?
Just give me his thor team up ability forever, if that was a C ability and it was just free shield throwing it'd feel great. If they did actual buffs then he needs a lot more work like damage or cooldowns or both but I feel like his kit is so good if you buff him too hard he will be genuinely game breaking. Whereas if you just let him have the C ability forever it'd fix him tbh
@@frod2908 Is there? mantis and Luna are the most picked supports if they aren't banned, so that's 2. Hela and Hawkeye both have a form of CC. Hulk has cc, Thor has a displacement cc, eye of you're dead mate, Pennis 3 second stun....like come on, nearly everyone has CC or a way to make cap useless.
At least ball has a killshot combo, cap doesn't. Using his entire kits burst deals 130 damage, and that's using your mobility. Basically, press V on every other hero is what amounts to his damage.
12:08 is hilarious because Dr. Strange stood still and cap’s damage wasn’t enough to kill him 😂 Just hit GM3 and pretty much one tricking cap, he’s become my favorite solo tank
Same. Cap is basically just there, you feel like you're doing so much just to look at the score board and see 4k damage -_-. The guy needs a buff and a quality of life fix. Anything he can do another tank can do better.
Absolutely agree.. a 'I just mopped the lobby' game on captain america is like 7-8k damage. Meanwhile on anyone else you're hitting 20k? Even Hulk is hitting double captains damage. His kit is sick as hell but nothing has damage at all and I don't get it, yeah he's fast and mobile but so is Hulk and venom and they get to do hella damage with more survivability but at the same time if captain got like a massive buff I feel he'd be broken as hell cause his kit is amazing but just lacks numbers.
No he's not? Cap isn't good at anything other than making people turn around. There's no way a cap is killing any backline that isn't like Moonknight or Black widow. His damage just isn't enough, any support can out heal or put distance between them, any DPS has higher damage and escapes, any tank outtanks them. You exist just to annoy and that, imo makes me bad. As a GM cap main, I'm sure you can take some of what I say when I feel like I'm legitimately throwing my games regardless of how well I feel I'm doing.
Can someone explain what the little indicator and five second timer that sometimes appears under his crosshair when he hits ppl means? I’ve read his abilities but didn’t see anywhere that is mentioned, and can’t play the game myself :/
@ThrowAway-gn5hw he does call outs in bronze games.He never shuts up in every game..No matter what he always feels he knows all and everybody must listen to him..
I find it a lot easier with the messed up sprint camera and accidentally running too far from my opponent to just press the sprint button off when I’m engaging. If they run, I sprint into ground slam to catch.
That's why I never listen to these so called "pros" opinion I hate how cause they stream an play in tournaments that everyone takes their word as law wen they're compromised and gatekeep comps
Shield throw and his dash need to be lowered by like 2 seconds id say. They’re not even that strong and it’s boring not being able to throw shield around lol
the fact that his team is actually alive without him babysitting them is absolutely crazy. I am a tank player in gold and if I die lets just say my whole team goes extinct in 2 seconds. If I don't babysit the backline and keep protecting them from flanks they don't even last 10 seconds on their own
It's cause the dps is actually doing their job they're supposed to move everywhere on the chess board except my Randoms don't they only know one direction never check our back line an then it's me and 2 other healers vs an iron fist, black panther, and psylocke
He is like a great disruptor tank. Good caps can dive backline, take attention away from supports, and get out. His skill floor is on the same level as hulk
I play cap as a tanky duelist. Go flank-> dive backline. Throw shield-> m1s dash for chase-> m1s again-> throw shield. I usually time my m1s when enemy reloads their ammo and i raise my shield when they fire so their bullets will go straight to their faces. Dr strange and magneto can do the ulti blocks instead of me
I think cap is underestimated but my personal opinion is his shield should reflect more things. Basically any projectilea like starlords smgs should bounce back. If they leaned into the reflecting and maybe slightly boost ground slam damage, and make his shield bash a cc if it isn’t already, then I could see him get picked way more. Ult looks underrated too cause I noticed the health kept climbing up and I honestly haven’t read what it does but it seems similar to luna ult but instead healing as you damage.
YAAA capt is freaking amazing when your teammates are aware. Theres times ive gone in the backline with capt and got out to stand right in front of my support and got no heals. Im just like well ok i guess ill go get some health packs.
His abilities fit, but his playstyle doesn't doom is good at securing kills but can die very quickly if he stays too long, whereas Cap is really bad at securing kills, but can stay alive and distract the enemy for awhile
Be careful against Hawkeye btw, he can shoot his arrows to the side or overhead caps shield to bypass it. Kinda like how Mcree throws his stun over Reins shield
Cap is like wolverine but more ranged and ability to escape sticky situation. Wolverine you runout of cd and you are stuck in hell. Shield can reflect projectiles like stuns and sleeps. Shield slam is a great cc that when coordinated with a teammate can delete most people. Constantly spamming shield throw and trying to get your 2 punch shield up I would have to assume its annoying to go against. I feel like a fly constantly reminding the enemies they are schizo
i would love to play cap but by the time i can get into a spot where i can do something my team gets absolutely rammed and blames tank because they dont know how to play life and space
@@Omegapootytang I actually have played America. It’s not that he’s trash, but he could use some help. One of the biggest complaints is his team ability should be a normal ability. He lacks a lot of stats compared to most tanks. Having range would make him a great flex, but it’s only available situationally.
@ ok that makes sense bc the increase in attack speed / dps thing was just something I saw on Twitter and can only be done in practice range with no cd
You call constantly pestering the backline like an immortal fly nothing? Cap's job isn't to get kills, it's to distract the healers so the rest of the team can get kills, and this gameplay demonstrates that very well
I feel like people even in the higher ranks are playing this game like its overwatch and dont get its like they put thought into this game. its not played like other point based shooters. its healers first no matter what then a brawl. you cannot kill anything in this game by focusing it if their is healers. imagine if Iron man had a healer when he fought Thanos he would still be here today.
@zbratoo I'm just giving you a hard time. I'm by no means on the level you are, but the gameplay loop of Cap looks very similar between us. You run around a bunch and just hope the healers are distracted long enough for you to hit someone 300 times lol.
Hulk got banned so much he mains thor and cap now, crazy unlucky
His hulk is fucking disgusting sad he can't play it lmao
Good thing this game has more than 1-2 interesting characters, actually it only has like 5-6 boring characters...
@@Tabnito Namors is pretty fun :)
@@Tabnitowho are the boring characters?
@@Fightheavens hela and mantis
95% running away from his demons 5% dealing 5 damage for a last hit
That’s what you have to do when you are playing a tank with no front line presence and very little relative damage
Silver comment doesn’t know how to actually play tanks
@@gaspedal66 ok bud. I’m diamond 1 with about a 65% win rate playing mostly magneto but yea go crazy
@@coopercochran2585 I think he was talking about the original comment lol
@@coopercochran2585 he was replying to op lol
6/7 Hulk bans, they must really hate you on that character lol
funny thing is even if they ban Hulk he still won
They banning iron man team up. 2 for 1.
Cap should have a passive that doubles the healing he gets from health packs. I hear "Can’t beat battlefield medicine!" More than any other voice line when playing Cap.
"Capitan America calling for medical assistance" 💥🗣🗣🗣💥
He’s so goofy I love it
Nah he should get 50% cause ain't no way health care is free in America
Pretty soon Zbra is going to be so good on so many tanks the enemy team will run out of things to ban😂
They'l just beg him to play duelist instead, but then he's gonna stomp with wolverine then Wolvy gets banned, then he channels his inner dps doom and go spidey.
I can go longer
lol he didn't do much this game but run around, the DPS got solo picks for every push
With the broken sprint camera and unintentionally going too far away from my opponent, I find it much simpler to simply press the sprint button off while I'm participating. I run into a ground slam to catch them if they run.
I love having a Cap on my team. He quite literally leads a team to victory, he is so lore accurate and is an amazing teammate to have. I support my Captain Americas to the best of my ability I have so much respect for the grinders who play him well
Is teammate like u i like to have in my team working together to get the win. Im most of the time solo tank or i have to go support (im plat3) i mostly go Strange but sometimes Cap is needed
@ I can’t play vanguard but I’ll fill for the other two roles I really enjoy both and try my best to employ teamwork
Thank you I needed to hear that
@@sirius7180 yeah man, even tho most consider him bad I’ve seen cap perform very well. And if he doesn’t I assume you are just trying to learn the hero. This game is very complex and has a ton of skill expression I’m never mad when a teammate underperforms they might still be learning their new favorite hero
Love to hear that!! I hit gm with just playing cap and players like you, made it actually enjoyable
14:44
Adam Warlock: “BORN AGAIN!”
Bucky: “Did someone say again?”
Good buffs for Captain America would be to let his ability hits count towards his shield throw passive.
Increased accuracy on shield deflected projectiles, so it goes to your crosshair.
And no cooldown on his shield block so he can spam it like strange.
the game just came out, just get good
The changes I'd give him would be:
1) Make his ult just be a simple aura buff rather than the "follow-the-leader" thing that he has. That way your teammates don't have to also know how it works to get the full benefits.
2) Let his boosted melee attack shield throws give a bit of cooldown reduction on each successful hit (gives the melee character a reason to aim while also technically buffing his damage and CDs without just being flat boosts)
3) Maybe give his regular shield toss ability a couple seconds shorter on the cooldown so he isn't AS reliant on Thor for longer range pokes and such.
I'd say these are all mostly QoL buffs since it rewards you for playing better with him while also making it easier for your team to feel the value of your presence while using Cap's ult.
@JahovasFitness cooldown reductions on shield throw hits sound like a really good change. (Maybe perfect, imo)
And although making his ult an aura maybe more practical, I like how it functions rn. Maybe the trails he leaves can last longer?
Just give me his thor team up ability forever, if that was a C ability and it was just free shield throwing it'd feel great. If they did actual buffs then he needs a lot more work like damage or cooldowns or both but I feel like his kit is so good if you buff him too hard he will be genuinely game breaking. Whereas if you just let him have the C ability forever it'd fix him tbh
ok from what I see is you play cap like ball in ow2, you linger around the enemy backline and survive on health packs.
Except you die a lot faster here so it’s even harder
@@TheFamousJackHTXkinda hard to say when there very little cc
@@frod2908 Is there? mantis and Luna are the most picked supports if they aren't banned, so that's 2. Hela and Hawkeye both have a form of CC. Hulk has cc, Thor has a displacement cc, eye of you're dead mate, Pennis 3 second stun....like come on, nearly everyone has CC or a way to make cap useless.
At least ball has a killshot combo, cap doesn't. Using his entire kits burst deals 130 damage, and that's using your mobility. Basically, press V on every other hero is what amounts to his damage.
@@scotttimbrell8632 yeah put piledrive gives the easiest shot ever to sleep
12:08 is hilarious because Dr. Strange stood still and cap’s damage wasn’t enough to kill him 😂
Just hit GM3 and pretty much one tricking cap, he’s become my favorite solo tank
Same. Cap is basically just there, you feel like you're doing so much just to look at the score board and see 4k damage -_-. The guy needs a buff and a quality of life fix. Anything he can do another tank can do better.
Absolutely agree.. a 'I just mopped the lobby' game on captain america is like 7-8k damage. Meanwhile on anyone else you're hitting 20k? Even Hulk is hitting double captains damage. His kit is sick as hell but nothing has damage at all and I don't get it, yeah he's fast and mobile but so is Hulk and venom and they get to do hella damage with more survivability but at the same time if captain got like a massive buff I feel he'd be broken as hell cause his kit is amazing but just lacks numbers.
@@gaffgarion Basically, if a cap is on par or above your damage, you're doing something wrong. A stressed sneeze does more damage.
15:58 captains shield sound perfectly syncs with star lords ragdoll hitting the wall. BONK
LOL
I was looking for anyone else who noticed, that genuinely made me laugh and rewind like 5 times
I love making an actually immortal iron fist with cap's ult
So much of this is just waiting for your team to actually do something, lol
U are a bronze player so you don't get to talk about a pro, shhhhhhhh
i dont think you understand how space works
@@obispamente2036 More noticing a pattern with DPS players in all ranks.....
@mattevans4377the tank has to make space to allow the dps to get elims
When you're playing a team game and you have to play as a team 😮
1:07
"Where did we die? Did we die to Panther on the flank?"
**in the background**
Bast, guide my spear!
That's such a funny sequence of events to me
I love samito
Nah i didnt know captain America got busy like that, he looks so fun 😂
Its all about picking and choosing your fights, cap is great at distracting and or killing the backline while your team focuses the front line
No he's not? Cap isn't good at anything other than making people turn around.
There's no way a cap is killing any backline that isn't like Moonknight or Black widow. His damage just isn't enough, any support can out heal or put distance between them, any DPS has higher damage and escapes, any tank outtanks them. You exist just to annoy and that, imo makes me bad. As a GM cap main, I'm sure you can take some of what I say when I feel like I'm legitimately throwing my games regardless of how well I feel I'm doing.
Can someone explain what the little indicator and five second timer that sometimes appears under his crosshair when he hits ppl means? I’ve read his abilities but didn’t see anywhere that is mentioned, and can’t play the game myself :/
Its for his primary shield throw after you land 2 melee hits. Timer and how many throws you have.
@ ahh ok, so land two hits to charge the throws and then you get 4 throws to use over 5 sec?
@@jjwang7597 yep and the throws do 45 damage instead of the melee's 40
@@neon_nights6718 and ricochet through enemies
bro samito dont shut up, insane
? It's a top 500 game. Call outs are needed. And he's on iron fist calling dives and collapsing on the enemy?
@ThrowAway-gn5hw he does call outs in bronze games.He never shuts up in every game..No matter what he always feels he knows all and everybody must listen to him..
That Star Lord/Iron Fist definitely banned hulk
Cap aint broken, his team is broken
I find it a lot easier with the messed up sprint camera and accidentally running too far from my opponent to just press the sprint button off when I’m engaging. If they run, I sprint into ground slam to catch.
seeing hulk and wolverine get banned more than any other character when they were considered d tier at first is so funny
That's why I never listen to these so called "pros" opinion I hate how cause they stream an play in tournaments that everyone takes their word as law wen they're compromised and gatekeep comps
My biggest problem with Captain is that I get bored waiting for the cooldowns.
Shield throw and his dash need to be lowered by like 2 seconds id say. They’re not even that strong and it’s boring not being able to throw shield around lol
@angelsibrian5085 you need to be rushing more to get his shield throw combo.
If your skill is hard carried by abilities you should probably try candy crush
Hilarious how Captain America of all characters is 90% running away from the enemy in order to be effective
Yea I’ve thought of him as Wrecking Ball from Overwatch. Half your job is wasting opponents time.
the fact that his team is actually alive without him babysitting them is absolutely crazy. I am a tank player in gold and if I die lets just say my whole team goes extinct in 2 seconds. If I don't babysit the backline and keep protecting them from flanks they don't even last 10 seconds on their own
It's cause the dps is actually doing their job they're supposed to move everywhere on the chess board except my Randoms don't they only know one direction never check our back line an then it's me and 2 other healers vs an iron fist, black panther, and psylocke
dam caps survivability is insane
He is like a great disruptor tank. Good caps can dive backline, take attention away from supports, and get out. His skill floor is on the same level as hulk
@@lucifermorningstar8387 i play both and cap is easier to survive and get out
I play cap as a tanky duelist. Go flank-> dive backline. Throw shield-> m1s dash for chase-> m1s again-> throw shield. I usually time my m1s when enemy reloads their ammo and i raise my shield when they fire so their bullets will go straight to their faces. Dr strange and magneto can do the ulti blocks instead of me
cap is underrated, he is such an annoying off-tank that can easily displace enemy and annoys them
are you duo'd with samito?
Nah just not many high elo players so they get in the same lobbies a lot
Someone know what keyboard he s using?
I think cap is underestimated but my personal opinion is his shield should reflect more things. Basically any projectilea like starlords smgs should bounce back. If they leaned into the reflecting and maybe slightly boost ground slam damage, and make his shield bash a cc if it isn’t already, then I could see him get picked way more. Ult looks underrated too cause I noticed the health kept climbing up and I honestly haven’t read what it does but it seems similar to luna ult but instead healing as you damage.
Cap is the equivalent to telling the team "Aight, if I have to solo vang, I might as well have fun"
YAAA capt is freaking amazing when your teammates are aware. Theres times ive gone in the backline with capt and got out to stand right in front of my support and got no heals. Im just like well ok i guess ill go get some health packs.
I dont think you should be able to see enemy players' names prior to the match starting. Certainly not during the banning phase!
Wow, i think cap might be your best hero! It would be a shame if the enemy target banned him!
If they swapped pather for wolverine to counter cap do you think your team would have swapped to win?
I noticed that they rather ban your Hulk but not ban Hela
Do high elo games show user names on load screen? Not fair for ban phase if so
I always felt like doom mains would play cap, with the ground slams, block and fast engage and disengage. It plays like doom no?
It's like Doom if he was more brawly.
Personally I see Thor as the doomfist equivalent considering the overshields, cooldown management and the dualist play-style.
His abilities fit, but his playstyle doesn't doom is good at securing kills but can die very quickly if he stays too long, whereas Cap is really bad at securing kills, but can stay alive and distract the enemy for awhile
Cap is so good when everyone on your team is a movement character
And yes, that Iron Fist WAS the Star Lord that chased you
So what I'm gathering is that the bad Tanks need to be annoying flankers to get value, got it
Aren't Dive Tanks an established thing in this genre? Wtf you mean, they're just playing the character correctly
I gotta be top 100 with cap on console, how do I check?
YESSS I TALKED IT INTO FRUITION. ITS A GLORIOUS DAY MY FRIENDS
Be careful against Hawkeye btw, he can shoot his arrows to the side or overhead caps shield to bypass it. Kinda like how Mcree throws his stun over Reins shield
Cap is like wolverine but more ranged and ability to escape sticky situation. Wolverine you runout of cd and you are stuck in hell. Shield can reflect projectiles like stuns and sleeps. Shield slam is a great cc that when coordinated with a teammate can delete most people. Constantly spamming shield throw and trying to get your 2 punch shield up I would have to assume its annoying to go against. I feel like a fly constantly reminding the enemies they are schizo
I'm so surprised with how fun I find almost every hero in the game. Cap's one of my favorites for sure.
hopefully this anti hulk ban propaganda works
Seeing people do well with tanks gives me so much hope what is this a Superman trailer
Все персонажи сломаны, когда у тебя есть хилеры)
i would love to play cap but by the time i can get into a spot where i can do something my team gets absolutely rammed and blames tank because they dont know how to play life and space
Before Watching, I'm playing Loki and occasionally copy Cap just to be a tank, with no idea what he does or how he plays.
So, this'll be fun!
I can't believe you payed that Iron Fist to throw the game like that. Fame changed Zbra 😔
You know you're good when you can make one of the worst tanks still look crazy.
You have never played him clearly
Stop taking these streamers and pros word as if it's law play the charcter and think for yourself caps always been good
@@Omegapootytang I actually have played America. It’s not that he’s trash, but he could use some help. One of the biggest complaints is his team ability should be a normal ability. He lacks a lot of stats compared to most tanks. Having range would make him a great flex, but it’s only available situationally.
wait does spamming shift between every melee actually do something?
I think it's supposed to allow Cap to get into range to deal damage against enemies trying to run away
@ ok that makes sense bc the increase in attack speed / dps thing was just something I saw on Twitter and can only be done in practice range with no cd
Idk if I’m trippin but it looks faster
@@angelsibrian5085 unironically trying to figure that out
Leaving hela unbanned to ban hulk is crazy tbh
Huh. I always thought Cap was better when you had at least one other tank.
I may need to reevaluate.
“CANT BEAT BATTLEFIELD MEDICINE” 🔥🔥🔥
That tyke guy really tunnel visions to you lol
I'm so confused what that first team was even doing.
I just started playing this game and have no idea what I’m watching rn
Someone does good with any character: THE CHARACTER IS BROKEN
was this sam’s eternity game? 😭🙏🏽🙏🏽
when i try and play cap solo tank, my team just gets destroyed because they don't have a front line :(
I haven't watched the video yet. Cap isn't broken, you are! 😂
I feel like he did nothing but I could just be the biggest dummy lol
You call constantly pestering the backline like an immortal fly nothing? Cap's job isn't to get kills, it's to distract the healers so the rest of the team can get kills, and this gameplay demonstrates that very well
ah finally some good Captain America gameplay
GM looks rough. Everytime he dives he either immediately shields or punches once and runs xD
I love how nothing in this game feels like a throw pick. Every character can be deadly in the right hands!
Wolverine, Black Widow And Hawkeye team up, Black Panther Pick on defense, and many more.
Ironic you say this on a Cap game where he quite literally just runs around and does absolutely nothing.
shout out to japanese curry the best captain america one trick in the world
Is that Samito on comms? Crazy to say you solo carried if you’re on a team with him and anybody close in skill.
I have a feeling nobody listens to samito and iust let him run his mouth
Istg, zebra is making anything work at this point
They gonna start banning hulk and cap against him
Cap looks like a lot of fun to play.
That is a lot of running around?
At this points its not the heroes
Zbras just broken
I think the Ban system is great but it prevents u from onetricking
If cap got more dmg in a few abilities he’d be set
I feel like people even in the higher ranks are playing this game like its overwatch and dont get its like they put thought into this game. its not played like other point based shooters. its healers first no matter what then a brawl. you cannot kill anything in this game by focusing it if their is healers. imagine if Iron man had a healer when he fought Thanos he would still be here today.
17:29 "Broken" Captain America gameplay btw
GM1 punisher just walks out of luna ult?
this samito guy sounds exactly like antvenom
His supports were crazy💯
haha bind your left click too two buttons when you figure out what I'm saying you're welcome!
seems like a good video but samitos in it
Out of battle healing would complete this game
is captain actually broken? he does no damage but his kit is really good for sure.
Captain america is broken (you are broken)
lowkey wish i could play this game before it dies but im stuck with a Optiplex 390 😭
15:33 popped his ult and didn’t kill
Don’t really know about busted look how hard you have to work for on him to get value where as you can get easier value on strange or hulk
FInally got the achievment yesterday
Is that samito
Im hoping the title of the video is just sarcasm.
Part bait, part jokes, call it what you want :)
@zbratoo I'm just giving you a hard time. I'm by no means on the level you are, but the gameplay loop of Cap looks very similar between us. You run around a bunch and just hope the healers are distracted long enough for you to hit someone 300 times lol.
mate wasted his ult just to kill u 15:41
Good shit bro im going to sub
I don't think that's tanking at all bud.
I still dont understand why you even played thor when you coudlve been plaing Cap all this time.