Really brilliant video thanks Gary. Excellent review of the history of recent times. It was good to be reminded of what has happened and is still happening.
This is really well argued Gary, very fair and balanced. We will only ever progress as a club when Sullivan and Brady are leaving for the last time. Our next manager will undoubtedly be out of work. If we had anything about us we should be talking to Bournemouth's manager. But why would he want to work for that pair
Great video Gary. I read today that Sullivan turned down Hansi Flick because he thought Lopetegui was the better option. Surely he can't be that stupid? Flick has totally turned Barcelona around with mainly youth players.
Spot on Gary about the LIES that Moyes puts out about him saving us from being relegated when he took over from Pelegrini as no one knows if Pelegrini had been allowed to carry on if he would have kept us up. Moyes himself had us in the relegation zone for most of 22/ 23 the season after dragging us through a miserable season when we won 11, drew 7 and LOST 20 games ... yes TWENTY
Thank you for taking the time to do a historical analysis. I really appreciated it. Reminds me of the episodes on Moyes that you did for C&B. Nice work! ⚒️
I agree with most of what you have said however I’m a little sour about the Moyes period than you. I think in retrospect we’ll look back on it as a golden period, three consecutive European qualifications and a cup. When did we have a period like that in the last 50 years? Moyesball was not enjoyable however we all knew that Sullivan would choose the next manager and that would end in tears. Although I wasn’t Moyes biggest fan we are demonstrably worst in every department now. Moyes must be sitting at home pissing himself laughing. Sullivan and Brady are the clubs biggest problem eventually they’ll ruin it just like they did with Birmingham.
Yeah it was but the way I see it is - year 1 via the covid season, year 2 sneaked into the conference league and year 3 - qualified by winning the cup. So it wasn't 3 normal years of qualification through the league it was in a specific set of circumstances that he could not repeat. Tbh the European adventures were a welcome distraction to our terrible league form most of the time.
In our remaining weeks at the Boleyn, I was sent an email by the Club . They asked me to attend a function at HQ. The first half of the meeting was about assuring fans why the move was a good idea ( Hosted by the (Late) DG. David, as you may know, grew up opposite the Boleyn. He gave the audience his vision for the future. I don't think he would be happy with the current situation. The Second half was the player Q+A. D G told me to ask my (e-mailed ) question to Mr Collins. Q: James, do you have plans to go into Management. A: ( paraphrase and loud) I'm not finished yet you know. I still have a few years left (as a player). Well! Shocked at the response, but an interesting night. The takeaway was D G' s love for the Club.
We are customers, fans mean nothing to Sullivan , shit on old and young this season for greed. The recruitment since GSB joined has been terrible, millions lost on transfers. The Payet's, Bowen etc are rare. Loppy should have been checked out before any interview .
24:32 I also think there is as close to zero chance as there can be of him being sacked if we lose to Everton. Yet we have 'fans' wanting us to lose so he'll be sacked. 🙅♂️
There’s always been this rift between the board and the fans. From big Sam to the stadium move to the replacement of Moyse to the announcement of the sale of Declan. This board has contempt for the fans of its own club. They are sleazy businessman. Who don’t belong in a position where they are pleasing masses All they care about is themselves and their bottom line.
Sad times Gary,this could well be my last season going over there,I hate the stadium,my 14yr old lad doesnt like going anymore and names like Southgate and TURDic being linked with the job,depressing!
Evening Gal, so are we saying that if JL fails which looks like he will he will get the sack and Sullivan will get Moyes back in to save us again because with availability of managers atm I can’t see who else will come to our club Moyes is hanging in the background like a bad smell worrying times ahead. Great vid Gal ⚒️
Only hope is he sell’s up soon. If we get better owners in we can start to rebuild our identity, take over the stadium and start acting like a real club and not a 2 Bob pub side.
Either you're on the Grecian, or that minimalist shed lighting is doing wonders for your hair. Looks like streaks of black in it. Makes you look years younger; not a day over 70 now! 😉 Love your shows. Far less effin' n' jeffin' going on.
Absolutely Infuriating That idiot can waste millions on players but when it comes to recruiting a competent manager he always go cheap. I’m desperate for Moyes not to come back and be our “saviour” again. Only at West Ham would something like this happen. I’m sick of Sullivan’s Circus 🎪 Please go and take Brady with you.
Can't wait to see DM find a new club with all of those teams clamouring for his signature. No doubt whoever gets him in as manager will end up winning the PL.😂
Potter is the only one who might, just might work. I have no evidence for this but he worked in a DoF system at Brighton. Wouldn’t really be over-keen on it tbh
I'll always believe Sullivan hates the idea of a popular manager. He (Brady too) loves someone that divides the fan base and diverts attention away from him (them). The one time we got a character that got us and was loved by The fans (Bilic), he couldn't wait to jeopardise him the second season
Great video Gary if Loppy gets the sack. Sullivan will bring in someone who has been out of work for a year. That won’t cost anything. No ambition from these owners. I get so frustrated like you and other Genuine hammers fans. Let’s hope one day that little idiot will go,and we get someone who wants ambition for us ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
Of course he will, it is what he does. Managers have no resale value so he doesn't believe in paying to hire them or paying them off, but he will happily spunk a bunch of money on a half baked footballer.
Hello Garymate, Lardarse did well till the Midget gobbed of about his contract! Loppi has to nowrealise he has failed with this project, And yes, Sullivan is a no name mark of a KANT!!! Just get out ASAP! Take care now John...
Why is it we can see the problem at the club but none of the board can ...vote sullivan out owners and managers come and go supporters are forever( dads,sons,grandsons) so it goes on
Don’t hold out much hope, even if he gets rid of Loppy he will just get Moyes or Rafa. Also I followed your advice yesterday, subscribed to a channel called Claret & Booze, now my notifications are full of this mad bloke swearing! 🤣😂🤣
All i would say is I'm grateful how far Moyes took us its not his fault Sullivan didn't release him at the right time, we could have built on our good run by taking on a decent replacement but no we are now going backwoods, all of a sudden because of Sullivan's incompetence Moyes is now looking like a good safety net because that's all he is.
@@mercedessl8718 Moyes finished 4th with Everton in 2004 their highest finish since 1988, also was runner up in the FA cup final. He joined West ham in 2017 and led us out of relegation and finished in 13 place then was let go end of season, second stint at west ham Moyes finished in the top 7 and 5th position getting us into our first major silverware victory in 45 years. Maybe the fans not getting behind him spread negativity leading us to bad form in the end as we have the custom of doing unfortunately.
@@DadsArmy1234 you sound like Sutton spewing out attributes about that charlatan who once said “winning is what i do”. Ask a Sunderland fan or a Man U fan or a real sociedad fan how good he was. Just listen to Gary’s podcast where he accurately puts into perspective moyes achievements at West Ham.
Gary …. I watch you mate … and today you have depressed the hell out of me ….. who do you want to replace all of your sackings ? It’s easy to say … I’d like to hear who you want ? One love ⭐️
Brad there are so many good options across Europe but they would all command a fee and they would all be too young, progressive and unproven for Sullivan. It's why I can't be bothered talking about them, we know the next manager will come from the freebie list.
Hi Gary just watched your show I was a session ticket holder went gold sallivan Brady come in I pent one session with them in charge and I then give my session tickets up because I don’t like the football I was watching
@ Ha ha. We love our beloved WHU too much to witness any more of this circus. I have decided to be abroad on Saturday as cannot bear any more rudderless football. There is one guy who we should make an enquiry - it’s Frank - no not lump of lard but Thomas the Brentford coach.
Kevin Nolan , Allardyeces bum chum,. I was thinking when you mentioned Sullivan only spending money in January if he had to. Now if he got rid of Loppy now he mght not have to spend so much as he would if he keeps him till christmas, and woe betide us, he keeps Loppy and we are in the battle, is Sullivan even stupid enough to hand the spanish spanner more money for the same productivity. That is is the only glimmer of light i see at the end of the tunnel, and the reason he will be gone by chistmas, I doubt Moyes will return as apparently he has already snubbed the idea, but who knows, could be the same misdirection we know they like to partake in. If they took him back they take this club to depths lower than i thought we could sink, and that is saying alot.
Very well put Gary,we have to see the back of Sullivan and Brady,I fear it won’t happen he will hand it down to Jack 😢😢.Whilst he owns/runs our club it’s doomed to mediocrity,he ruined Birmingham and now he is ruining us.Downes shouldn’t have been sold,Pablo shouldn’t have been sold and is doing well for Betis,really miss him.Thilo Kehrer now Monaco captain we get rid of him thanks Moyes for that you mug.I thought Bowen and Soucek came in in the January window that Pellegrini was sacked prior to Moyes return,not after Bilic sacking?
@ really thought we had a player in Kehrer,well we did until he was Moysed Gary.George Earthy gets his first start for Bristol City tonight,Freddie Potts is the Portsmouth linchpin in Midfield.Both them Boys should be in our first team squad,West Ham born and bred and Lopetegui couldn’t wait to chuck them out on loan.
Sullivan shafted Birmingham and now he is shafting West Ham as long as we stay in the premier and he gets his money 💰 he won't change. The shaft will continue does he care about the fans views. I think NOT
Germany's goalkeeping legend Oliver Kahn once said the great sentence: “Balls! We need balls in our pants!” Someone (Sullivan I guess🤭) doesn't seem to have these! Experienced, older coaches does not mean more security! I think he only trusts this "type" of coach... Hürzeler is an example at the moment. Hoeness from Stuttgart another... Amorim is still fresh too! To everyone's shame, he didn't want him!
Bilic was let down and not given the funds for his next season.
Bilic got thrown under the bus big time,they never back him when we left the Boleyn 😡😡
Im proud of you Gary, many have forgotten the prems greatest player as our head coach.... Gianfranco Zola.
Deserved another season with new players..
I think so David, I really liked him. How could you not?
@@davidryley4162 I doubt many have forgotten,.not sure why you would say that.
Not the best manager but a lovable guy and a genius on the pitch.
I loved Zola and was annoyed when he was sacked - especially when I saw his replacement...
Being an Irons fan at the moment is absolute torture with Sullivan as the main man!
It really is Anthony
@@GaryKillington And that includes El Loppy bollocks as head coach!
Really brilliant video thanks Gary. Excellent review of the history of recent times. It was good to be reminded of what has happened and is still happening.
Cheers Joan - it's the never-ending story of woe 🙂
This is really well argued Gary, very fair and balanced. We will only ever progress as a club when Sullivan and Brady are leaving for the last time. Our next manager will undoubtedly be out of work. If we had anything about us we should be talking to Bournemouth's manager. But why would he want to work for that pair
I agree and it cannot come soon enough, David.
Great video Gary. I read today that Sullivan turned down Hansi Flick because he thought Lopetegui was the better option. Surely he can't be that stupid? Flick has totally turned Barcelona around with mainly youth players.
I don't doubt that one little bit
Really good video Gary really enjoyed that.. bit depressing at the end lol. still great video. Keep up the good work.
Spot on Gary about the LIES that Moyes puts out about him saving us from being relegated when he took over from Pelegrini as no one knows if Pelegrini had been allowed to carry on if he would have kept us up. Moyes himself had us in the relegation zone for most of 22/ 23 the season after dragging us through a miserable season when we won 11, drew 7 and LOST 20 games ... yes TWENTY
Yes he did Iggy, he got away with murder tbh
Thank you for taking the time to do a historical analysis. I really appreciated it. Reminds me of the episodes on Moyes that you did for C&B. Nice work! ⚒️
Protest to get him out Sullivan would not like it. The man thinks its everybody's elses fault
Great discussion points Gary. We’re fucked unless Loppi goes! COYI ⚒⚒⚒
If we get relegated we will not get promoted unless we get a decent coach
Cheers for this Gary even though we knew these events was really good to hear them in chronological order
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Of course he will
you know it
I agree with most of what you have said however I’m a little sour about the Moyes period than you. I think in retrospect we’ll look back on it as a golden period, three consecutive European qualifications and a cup. When did we have a period like that in the last 50 years? Moyesball was not enjoyable however we all knew that Sullivan would choose the next manager and that would end in tears. Although I wasn’t Moyes biggest fan we are demonstrably worst in every department now. Moyes must be sitting at home pissing himself laughing. Sullivan and Brady are the clubs biggest problem eventually they’ll ruin it just like they did with Birmingham.
Yeah it was but the way I see it is - year 1 via the covid season, year 2 sneaked into the conference league and year 3 - qualified by winning the cup. So it wasn't 3 normal years of qualification through the league it was in a specific set of circumstances that he could not repeat. Tbh the European adventures were a welcome distraction to our terrible league form most of the time.
In our remaining weeks at the Boleyn, I was sent an email by the Club .
They asked me to attend a function at HQ.
The first half of the meeting was about assuring fans why the move was a good idea ( Hosted by the (Late) DG.
David, as you may know, grew up opposite the Boleyn.
He gave the audience his vision for the future.
I don't think he would be happy with the current situation.
The Second half was the player Q+A.
D G told me to ask my (e-mailed ) question to Mr Collins.
Q: James, do you have plans to go into Management.
A: ( paraphrase and loud) I'm not finished yet you know. I still have a few years left (as a player).
Well!
Shocked at the response, but an interesting night.
The takeaway was D G' s love for the Club.
I have no doubt he loved the club but even he was a huge supporter of Sullivan
Birmingham fans warned as about the 3 amigos,,they tried the same shot there.. failed due to brum not getting the commonwealth games..
Lovely work Gary you have a new subscriber COYI
As great as winning the trophy was we were really poor in that Final but a superb ending. Agreed not been much good football under Sully ownership.
Spot on as per, Gary
You got it spot on Gary with alll your comments and observations
Thank you, appreciate it
We are customers, fans mean nothing to Sullivan , shit on old and young this season for greed. The recruitment since GSB joined has been terrible, millions lost on transfers. The Payet's, Bowen etc are rare. Loppy should have been checked out before any interview .
It's about time we all got together again and got the short arse out of here.
Happy to join any such movement
24:32
I also think there is as close to zero chance as there can be of him being sacked if we lose to Everton.
Yet we have 'fans' wanting us to lose so he'll be sacked. 🙅♂️
Yep, sadly
Backgorund is so morbid, when is the memorabilia getting on the walls?
There’s always been this rift between the board and the fans. From big Sam to the stadium move to the replacement of Moyse to the announcement of the sale of Declan. This board has contempt for the fans of its own club. They are sleazy businessman. Who don’t belong in a position where they are pleasing masses All they care about is themselves and their bottom line.
Absolutely they do hold us in contempt. In fact we just get in the way I think
You only have to see what they wanted to do at Birmingham all them years ago
Unfortunately did it at our club
Yeah I know and they sold it to a crook
Sad times Gary,this could well be my last season going over there,I hate the stadium,my 14yr old lad doesnt like going anymore and names like Southgate and TURDic being linked with the job,depressing!
Zola's first job was with us mate. It was a very left field appointment.
It was but I kinda liked it.
Great content Gary
it's business before pleasure .
before entertainment .
before the fans .
Suñlivan just wants prem football
Thanks Martin and of course it is
Evening Gal, so are we saying that if JL fails which looks like he will he will get the sack and Sullivan will get Moyes back in to save us again because with availability of managers atm I can’t see who else will come to our club Moyes is hanging in the background like a bad smell worrying times ahead. Great vid Gal ⚒️
i fhink there's a very good chance of it mate, I really do.
Lets be real nothing will change this season 😮
I suspect it will and it won't. Yes we'll get another manager but no we won't see much of an improvement
Only hope is he sell’s up soon. If we get better owners in we can start to rebuild our identity, take over the stadium and start acting like a real club and not a 2 Bob pub side.
would be nice JM
Either you're on the Grecian, or that minimalist shed lighting is doing wonders for your hair. Looks like streaks of black in it. Makes you look years younger; not a day over 70 now! 😉
Love your shows. Far less effin' n' jeffin' going on.
Must be a trick of the light 😂
Great breakdown Gary. All true. At the end of the day it's Sullivan's fault.
Course it is Tommy, always has been his fault.
Absolutely Infuriating
That idiot can waste millions on players but when it comes to recruiting a competent manager he always go cheap.
I’m desperate for Moyes not to come back and be our “saviour” again.
Only at West Ham would something like this happen.
I’m sick of Sullivan’s Circus 🎪
Please go and take Brady with you.
Can't wait to see DM find a new club with all of those teams clamouring for his signature. No doubt whoever gets him in as manager will end up winning the PL.😂
Hoping he still goes to Everton if we beat them.
I’m hearing uninspiring names like terzic Southgate and potter as the favourites to replace Lopetegui. We really are a prehistoric thinking club.😒
I like the sound of potter to be honest.
Potter is the only one who might, just might work. I have no evidence for this but he worked in a DoF system at Brighton. Wouldn’t really be over-keen on it tbh
@@GaryKillington I have the same bad feeling with potter like I did with Lopetegui he just doesn’t fill with confidence.
@@andrew7780 who else is out there that would come!?
@@napoleonreed3309 with Sullivan at the helm our options are limited, it will be someone preferably out of work and cheap unfortunately.
I'll always believe Sullivan hates the idea of a popular manager. He (Brady too) loves someone that divides the fan base and diverts attention away from him (them). The one time we got a character that got us and was loved by The fans (Bilic), he couldn't wait to jeopardise him the second season
Very true Walter, it is true that he likes the manager to take the attention away from him.
I was never happy with the move and hate the board so much
I shouldn't say this but I hope we lose against everton on Saturday
Well presented Can you get the Board to listen to it and take a long long look in the mirror
Pretty sure they wouldn't care because I'm a fan. They would however care if it was someone in the mainstream media
Great video Gary if Loppy gets the sack. Sullivan will bring in someone who has been out of work for a year. That won’t cost anything. No ambition from these owners. I get so frustrated like you and other Genuine hammers fans. Let’s hope one day that little idiot will go,and we get someone who wants ambition for us ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
Of course he will, it is what he does. Managers have no resale value so he doesn't believe in paying to hire them or paying them off, but he will happily spunk a bunch of money on a half baked footballer.
Great review Gary - sometiimes we fans forget what has happened in the past, which is shaping our future - get them all out!! ⚒
Hello Garymate, Lardarse did well till the Midget gobbed of about his contract! Loppi has to nowrealise he has failed with this project, And yes, Sullivan is a no name mark of a KANT!!! Just get out ASAP!
Take care now
John...
gary 100% right mate.zola used to get calls in the middle of the night from the circus clown.
Did he really, Bill? Was that to just rattle him or something?
Why is it we can see the problem at the club but none of the board can ...vote sullivan out owners and managers come and go supporters are forever( dads,sons,grandsons) so it goes on
Absolutely right Alan.
Don’t hold out much hope, even if he gets rid of Loppy he will just get Moyes or Rafa.
Also I followed your advice yesterday, subscribed to a channel called Claret & Booze, now my notifications are full of this mad bloke swearing! 🤣😂🤣
All i would say is I'm grateful how far Moyes took us its not his fault Sullivan didn't release him at the right time, we could have built on our good run by taking on a decent replacement but no we are now going backwoods, all of a sudden because of Sullivan's incompetence Moyes is now looking like a good safety net because that's all he is.
No Gary summed up moyes contribution and ability perfectly
@@mercedessl8718 Moyes finished 4th with Everton in 2004 their highest finish since 1988, also was runner up in the FA cup final. He joined West ham in 2017 and led us out of relegation and finished in 13 place then was let go end of season, second stint at west ham Moyes finished in the top 7 and 5th position getting us into our first major silverware victory in 45 years. Maybe the fans not getting behind him spread negativity leading us to bad form in the end as we have the custom of doing unfortunately.
@@DadsArmy1234 you sound like Sutton spewing out attributes about that charlatan who once said “winning is what i do”. Ask a Sunderland fan or a Man U fan or a real sociedad fan how good he was. Just listen to Gary’s podcast where he accurately puts into perspective moyes achievements at West Ham.
Gary …. I watch you mate … and today you have depressed the hell out of me ….. who do you want to replace all of your sackings ? It’s easy to say … I’d like to hear who you want ? One love ⭐️
Brad there are so many good options across Europe but they would all command a fee and they would all be too young, progressive and unproven for Sullivan. It's why I can't be bothered talking about them, we know the next manager will come from the freebie list.
Hi Gary just watched your show I was a session ticket holder went gold sallivan Brady come in I pent one session with them in charge and I then give my session tickets up because I don’t like the football I was watching
Marco Silva not David Silva !
Yeah I often make mis-speaks!!
@ Ha ha. We love our beloved WHU too much to witness any more of this circus. I have decided to be abroad on Saturday as cannot bear any more rudderless football. There is one guy who we should make an enquiry - it’s Frank - no not lump of lard but Thomas the Brentford coach.
Kevin Nolan , Allardyeces bum chum,. I was thinking when you mentioned Sullivan only spending money in January if he had to. Now if he got rid of Loppy now he mght not have to spend so much as he would if he keeps him till christmas, and woe betide us, he keeps Loppy and we are in the battle, is Sullivan even stupid enough to hand the spanish spanner more money for the same productivity. That is is the only glimmer of light i see at the end of the tunnel, and the reason he will be gone by chistmas, I doubt Moyes will return as apparently he has already snubbed the idea, but who knows, could be the same misdirection we know they like to partake in. If they took him back they take this club to depths lower than i thought we could sink, and that is saying alot.
He won't give Lopetegui more money, he'll be gone before January.
I would take Zola back. COYI
Bit late for that I think Del
Very well put Gary,we have to see the back of Sullivan and Brady,I fear it won’t happen he will hand it down to Jack 😢😢.Whilst he owns/runs our club it’s doomed to mediocrity,he ruined Birmingham and now he is ruining us.Downes shouldn’t have been sold,Pablo shouldn’t have been sold and is doing well for Betis,really miss him.Thilo Kehrer now Monaco captain we get rid of him thanks Moyes for that you mug.I thought Bowen and Soucek came in in the January window that Pellegrini was sacked prior to Moyes return,not after Bilic sacking?
Incredible about Kehrer, he was so mis-used by Moyes it was painful
@ really thought we had a player in Kehrer,well we did until he was Moysed Gary.George Earthy gets his first start for Bristol City tonight,Freddie Potts is the Portsmouth linchpin in Midfield.Both them Boys should be in our first team squad,West Ham born and bred and Lopetegui couldn’t wait to chuck them out on loan.
What is the proof or evidence that Sullivan made the choice of Lopetegui?
Where's the proof he never . All the main ITKs said it was a Sullivan appointment.
My memory is that they hired Grant… “for his little black book…” ⚒
Must have contained the Epstein client list....
His little black book of wankers
Don’t forget, Sullivan mugged off Birmingham City before he’s come here and mugged us off as well! FFS the misery continues!
Massively, also sold them to the dodgiest of blokes
@ How could anyone be dodgier than Sullivan? 🤣
Sullivan shafted Birmingham and now he is shafting West Ham as long as we stay in the premier and he gets his money 💰 he won't change. The shaft will continue does he care about the fans views. I think NOT
Of course he won't change, this is his personal hobby
Great vid mate I’m sick to death of sully just want him gone mate so I can go back and watch my team COYI
Cheers Greenbadge
Ruin what?
Its never been fixed???
yeah true
Ur drinking out of my Pyrex gravy jug
No it is a tea cup, Tom. I like clear cups 🙂
@ joking bud
Germany's goalkeeping legend Oliver Kahn once said the great sentence:
“Balls! We need balls in our pants!”
Someone (Sullivan I guess🤭) doesn't seem to have these!
Experienced, older coaches does not mean more security!
I think he only trusts this "type" of coach...
Hürzeler is an example at the moment.
Hoeness from Stuttgart another...
Amorim is still fresh too!
To everyone's shame, he didn't want him!
That is a good saying, Nils
DAVE OUT
yep
Hi Gary, what is your email ?