As a new flyer I am trying to learn how to incorporate rudder control. I find it much easier to use the rudder to course correct on final approach to landing than to use the ailerons. Also to use the rudder to flatten turns to stay away from turn stalls.
Hey TX. I suspect you've resorted to rudder because it is less effective than aileron and you were holding in the aileron too long. You will run into problems later on with sport models trying to correct deviations with rudder, i.e., rudder will cause yaw, but the plane as a whole will not change course, amounting to a larger deviation to correct. Whereas, a smidge of brief aileron affects an immediate drift in the direction of the slight bank. You might get away with flat rudder turns with a trainer, but inducing a skid while turning can actually be a recipe for putting the plane into trouble. Good luck
I'm with the Horny Toad on this one, for making minor course corrections on final. However, I resisted the idea for a long time before I actually tried it and found it to be quite effective. If you use ailerons, you then have to apply opposite aileron to resume a straight course. To each his own, I guess.
If you try to use rudder to steer when the wings are not level flying a symmetrical wing airplane you won't get the response you're looking for, i.e., the plane will skid, but continue off heading until the wings are banked. Course corrections/drift is universally made with aileron, while rudder is used to fine tune where the plane is pointed.
@@clarencegreen3071 If I understand your point correctly, you will find that using rudder to steer when the wings are not level will not be effective when flying a symmetrical wing airplane, i.e., the plane will skid, but continue off heading until the wings are banked. Course corrections/drift is universally made with aileron, while rudder is used to fine tune where the plane is pointed.
SAFE mode: to me it seems a very dangerous way to learn to fly. I have been flying for 40 years and took up flying racing drones. I started in 'angle' mode which is equivalent to SAFE mode on an airplane apparently. Wish I'd never done that. ACRO-mode (or limitless mode, beit with mild steering surface deflections) is absolutely the way to go in my opinion.
I get where you're coming from. However, I deal with this weekly and I can tell you that learning conventional control techniques is no more challenging for a pilot who has been flying on SAFE v/s someone completely new to the sport. The key is giving specific instructions on how the controls are used. However, 99% of the fliers in our sport are mainly reacting to what the plane does, as opposed to the 1% who tell the plane what to do. Reactors will definitely struggle with reverting back to original habits of holding in aileron.
Thanks for the great and very understandable explanation!
Very good non-bubba!
As a new flyer I am trying to learn how to incorporate rudder control. I find it much easier to use the rudder to course correct on final approach to landing than to use the ailerons. Also to use the rudder to flatten turns to stay away from turn stalls.
Hey TX. I suspect you've resorted to rudder because it is less effective than aileron and you were holding in the aileron too long. You will run into problems later on with sport models trying to correct deviations with rudder, i.e., rudder will cause yaw, but the plane as a whole will not change course, amounting to a larger deviation to correct. Whereas, a smidge of brief aileron affects an immediate drift in the direction of the slight bank. You might get away with flat rudder turns with a trainer, but inducing a skid while turning can actually be a recipe for putting the plane into trouble. Good luck
I'm with the Horny Toad on this one, for making minor course corrections on final. However, I resisted the idea for a long time before I actually tried it and found it to be quite effective. If you use ailerons, you then have to apply opposite aileron to resume a straight course. To each his own, I guess.
If you try to use rudder to steer when the wings are not level flying a symmetrical wing airplane you won't get the response you're looking for, i.e., the plane will skid, but continue off heading until the wings are banked. Course corrections/drift is universally made with aileron, while rudder is used to fine tune where the plane is pointed.
@@clarencegreen3071 If I understand your point correctly, you will find that using rudder to steer when the wings are not level will not be effective when flying a symmetrical wing airplane, i.e., the plane will skid, but continue off heading until the wings are banked. Course corrections/drift is universally made with aileron, while rudder is used to fine tune where the plane is pointed.
SAFE mode: to me it seems a very dangerous way to learn to fly. I have been flying for 40 years and took up flying racing drones. I started in 'angle' mode which is equivalent to SAFE mode on an airplane apparently. Wish I'd never done that. ACRO-mode (or limitless mode, beit with mild steering surface deflections) is absolutely the way to go in my opinion.
I get where you're coming from. However, I deal with this weekly and I can tell you that learning conventional control techniques is no more challenging for a pilot who has been flying on SAFE v/s someone completely new to the sport. The key is giving specific instructions on how the controls are used. However, 99% of the fliers in our sport are mainly reacting to what the plane does, as opposed to the 1% who tell the plane what to do. Reactors will definitely struggle with reverting back to original habits of holding in aileron.