Smartap - when the Internet of things goes down
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- This is a home automation product that lets you run a bath or have a shower by voice commands via your voice recognition device and a remote server. It looks like someone put a lot of work into the design, but it seems like a bad idea to have your shower controlled via a remote server (which may be down).
The idea of a glitch or hacker turning your shower on unexpectedly while the door or curtain is open, and flooding your house, or even just splurging gallons of hot water down the drain seems undesirable.
With no physical override it also means that a system crash, fault or hack could leave you with no way to have a shower, bath or even wash your hands.
Then there's the cost of getting a "home automation expert" to repair it. It's an industry flooded with big egos with matching hourly rates.
But Kudos to the people who actually designed and built this unit. It looks like it was a valiant effort to create a functional product, albeit a bit ill-conceived. It certainly looks like it was expensive to develop and manufacture.
The Home Assistant posse do seem to be exploring the protocols of this system to try and get it back up and running on a local network.
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And that's why local control is 100 percent mandatory in my house
"If cloud then nope."
Simple.
I couldn't agree more. I can never understand why people are so ready to give up control of their own lives, but not only that, give away a load of metadata that tells anyone with the means to interpret it, what days you use the shower, what time of day you take a shower, how long you're in there, how much water you use, and how warm you like it.
It's a crazy world where people allow themselves to be controlled and manipulated by a third party, and without a moment's thought !
I want my vehicle to have a door and ignition key, my appliances to not talk at me or have any screen now than to display the time, my surveillance devices air gapped on a dedicated server, my telephonic device to have a removable (replaceable) chemical electron storage cell and my elevators to run on relay logic with a disc floor selector.
Call me a Luddite if you wish but I like things with a lifespan measured in human generations, not months.
So true.
@@whitesapphire5865 Just imagine what MegaCorpCo could learn if they could actually get people to strap a device onto their face that had cameras staring directly into their eyes ("the windows to the soul") and looking out into their homes (and LIDAR scanning everything, and tracking every movement and listening to every sound and...)
No... wait.
Nevermind.
A problematic solution to a non-existent problem.
Seriously, WHY would anyone buy a product like this. Internet connected water tap?
@@volvo09 Marketing
People buy what they are told to buy.
like that dumbass 400$ ""juicer"" lmao
Came here to say the same. Instead of turning the tap, I have to turn the button. Not exactly labor saving, is it?
@@volvo09Color me boggled.
"Hey Siri, flush the toilet."
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
"Your subscription has been suspended as you violated the Terms of Service and failed to pay your fee. Please submit an apology with an assurance that you will comply with the ToS and pay the £19.99 monthly fee before you can use the flush function of your toilet".
Advanced lovers of IoT should read 'The moon is a harsh mistress' by Heinlein. A prison establishment with all gates/valves/power etc. controlled by computer. And a mutinous group of prisoners that hack it.
"Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over."
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid your waste water lock has been compromised. Please read and pay the ransom note" 😂
Hahahaha
wow I can't believe the company running this IoT had financial difficulties, it's such a crucial piece of technology that revolutionizes the showering experience. It even has RGB
And... Why wouldn't everyone want an internet connected tap therefore guaranteeing your revenue 😂
These companies are so so dumb.
Ive learned - anything with RGB lighting is making up for a lack of engineering quality.
I was a new S650 Maybach Mervedes a couple of months ago - its like a Twitch streamer bedroom with the RGB lighting, and the chrome trim is chromed plastic - on a €200k car, look closely and the leather on the dash is moulded rubber
look here, an RGB shower head absolutely improves the showering experience! (it's also not connected to the internet, and directly powered by the water flowing through it so basically having nothing in common with this product except the RGB)
@@piccalillipit9211My sleep is being disrupted just from imagining how that must look in person.
A fine example of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
Crap, you beat me to the exact statement! Carry on.
"smart" device creators that force you to use their "cloud" service should have to put all of the server code, schematics, and API documentation into some kind of "digital trust" that can be made public when the company goes out of business.
So you need a working internet connection to go to the bog. What a time to be alive.
...and permission from a server in China
Internet of poops
404 at the end of the roll?
When a simple tap isn't good enough...
You can imagine the fun that ensues when it breaks and the plumber turns up expecting to replace a tap.
"What cowboy sold you this crap?"
Before ripping it out and putting in a more expensive shiny chromed copper setup which gives him a 50 per cent profit.
And imagine when he says. Gotta order the parts and it’ll take two weeks
@@TH-camcensoredmyusernameGeographical anomaly!
@@TH-camcensoredmyusername It won't. The company is dead. There are no parts. Unless you want to send it to someone like Clive to reverse-engineer it in order to fix it. All the while all of your taps don't work.
@@jwhite5008 even if the company was still around. I’m sure ordering parts would be a nightmare. Cant beat an old washer and seat
My side hobby is home automation using Home Assistant, an opensource software. There is a very healthy push for local-control-only devices that are cloud-free for setup and use. There are people hacking the wifi chips of similar devices to "lobotomize" them from the cloud. I also have a rule that everything I install has to be manually operable for guests and in case of network failure. Having to ask the permission of a chinese server to take a shower is never a good idea 😂
Or Amazon. Next time someone accidentally deletes the entire datacentre and you can't turn your lights on
Yep thats why I went with crestron - fully local no cloud BS
Complexity is the enemy of reliability.
Good video. Thank you, Clive.
This is the classic example of over complicating a non-complicated task and it ending in an expensive disaster.
still waiting for actual wireless shower technology so I don't need to have the shower head with a hose attached
Screw that. I want the high tech shower controller to take my shower for me. Now that would be a REAL time saver!!!!
@@demef758 if it showers naked the results will be shocking
Was invented in Poland around 1941.
Wouldnt recommend you try it.
@@daviddavidson2357 - That was _waterless_ showering. It did kill 100% of the bacteria on you, with only mild side effects.
@@daviddavidson2357 In Germany, not Poland.
This is a great example of why local API access is so important! Thanks for another awesome informative video!
I'll stick with a chrome brass API and hand interface.
@@Sonny_McMacsson In this application I completely agree. The closed-circuit wireless temp control for our tankless water heater is about as far as I am willing to go.
Yep! That’s why I’ve done DIY crestron system for my home automation setup, bulletproof, recognized, and most important doesn’t need internet.
@@reeddeer793you’d think right, that if it does need internet, you could simply have a router with a local port set up… those automated lights do that at the least, unless you do find the sorry sap of a company which forces a cloud-based network…
Well, all until someone with a sniffer wants to have some fun!
To this day, a team of scientists is trying to figure out why someone thought any of this was a good idea.
I found a copy of the manual and looked at the installation instructions. You are correct, it explicitly says do not mount with the pipes at the top, or on the side (for vertical installation), for horizontal it doesn't matter. The manual has specific instructions on what to do if you're using copper or SP/PEX pipes. It's actually a very good manual. As you say, the design had a lot of effort put behind it.
I think U2 wrote a song about this tap. If you listen closely you can hear the lyrics in the servos: "I still havnt found what I'm lookin for"
sh... u2's lawyers will ask YT to take down the clip.
Voice activated taps! That’s a great idea because turning taps is utterly draining!😂
That's still from the time when every company thought 'random household item + internet = good IoT,' I think many more companies will follow soon.
They're doing it for three reasons. Planned obsolescence so you upgrade often. Moving from a pay once, own forever model to product as a service to encourage product loyalty. And control, whereby they can control their product, intellectual property and enforce Terms of Service and Codes of Conduct either for them or for an external party.
we were promised internet of things a decade ago, yet it's still something largely not doable without doing a tech wizard DIY, due to every manufacturer trying to trap you in their very limited proprietary ecosystem, so most things don't work together. Also voice assistants somehow haven't become smarter in a decade.
I can almost guarantee some of them are repurposing source from free projects to do the brunt of their work, too. And while there's never anything remotely (no pun intended) bad about that, you can just tell a lot of these vendors immediately want the maximum return for the least cost/effort possible.
It's always funny that things like this, which try to fix a non-problem, adds more problems than it actually fixes. The biggest problem being it requiring the internet to use a physical thing in your own home. It would have been better if the server side stuff would be contained in a in-home smart unit which is connected through WiFi but shielded off from the internet(or at least have the option). The servers going down and it's just reduced to a fancy pansy way of physically turning on the shower/taps.
So many non-problem products associated with IoT and cloud computing, simply to take control away from you and generate personal data for the manufacturer.
Madness, there's a movie called 'Brazil' which explains a world like this.
Watch out for bugs in the system!
Do you have your 27B/6?
Hi Clive,
I built a house in 1980, and I have central control for the lighting. I use about 20 General Electric latching relays (RR7) to control the mains. You supply a 24 volt pulse to the "ON" terminal or "OFF" terminal of the relay to control it. The switches provide the pulses and are simply wall mounted momentary rocker switches (SPDT, normally off). You can have as many switches as you want on any circuit because the switches are simply wired in parallel. The switches are connected to the relays with cheap 3-conductor low voltage wire. The relays and wall switches are still available from a company that bought the business from GE. Also, there are newer mains rated latching relays from other companies, but the form factors may be slightly different. I've been in several office buildings that use the GE system.
I originally wanted some home automation with the GE relays connected to a home computer. I purchased a bunch of DPST reed relays and a few other relays (Radio Shack) to interface the GE relays to a home computer, but back in the day, this was very complicated. So, my lighting has just been working like any other GE system with only one relay going bad in all these years.
A while ago, I started to play with microcontrollers, PIC programmers, Arduino, USBasp, ESP8266s, etc. I realized that adding computer control to my lighting was getting much simpler. I assembled an ESP8266, the old Radio Shack relays, and a handful of DIP ICs to control the GE relays over my LAN (WiFi). I keep it all within my LAN and behind the firewall to avoid outside hackers, and I don't use any 3rd party services, known to go bust!
The ESP8266 provides a WEB page that has buttons to control the relays either singly or in various combinations. Any device on my LAN can control my lights.
But my real wish was to have a few simple buttons next to my bed to control the lights. For example, when you hear some sort of disturbance at night. Interfacing it to Alexa would make me wake up folks by shouting, "Alexa, turn on the light." And using a smartphone meant I had to put on reading glasses, turn on the phone, access the web site, and pust the right button.
So I used another ESP8266 to build a client with a few switches and pushbuttons. It sits on my night table, and I can control it by feel. There's an ON button, an OFF button, a few toggle switches to select the light, and a dim status LED. Really simple, I don't have to wake anybody up, and I don't have to fool with a smartphone. It took over 40 years, but I got what I wanted.
LAN of Things. I really like your setup idea. Tactile buttons are great stuff!
A friend's family lives in a 1950s-era house with latching relays controlling all interior and exterior lighting, with low-voltage at wall-mounted pushbutton switches, much like you describe.
When I lived there for a time (around 2007) it was like a game to me: which lights will work properly (less than 5%), which lights won't work at all (around 90%), and lights that will only work for a split-second when the button is first pressed (the remainder). Switched receptacles in some of the rooms were completely dead.
I offered to help them rewire the house, but they weren't interested. It would have been incredibly easy, since every single cable run in the house was done through individual conduit runs that led to one major trunk tray in the basement, leading directly to the circuit breaker panel/relay box.
"If I push this in gently and let it out gently, nothing happens."
(Nothing doesn't happen)
It amazes me how easily people will give up their own autonomy, security and freedom for the sake of having fancy gadgets and baubles. The epitome of "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."
"Water will never get in."
Water: "Hold my beer and watch this."
One "mixer" for both shower and sink? What a silly idea for starters :D
student lodgings, 1 person to use it ... or a couple sharing
Clive's voice is so AMSR he could make more channels about anything and I would watch them.
Never thought people would want faucet-by-wire
Wait... FOUR computers AND a server to turn a shower on? what is wrong with people.
Always remember 'The Cloud' just means other people's servers...
People's Servers of the People's Republic, usually
Don't think I would ever install a SMART device that controls something like water flow unless it was outside of the property or maybe in an industrial setting. Just sounds like a costly incident waiting to happen
Yeah, I doubt insurance companies would be too keen either.
Screw the "incident" - this mind virus results in needing electricity simply to have running water. The equivalent of constructing an apartment building without stairs, relying only on a single elevator.
Industry can't always get it right either. Watch CSB videos. :/
My current shower has an excellent HMI which offers excellent reliable local control of flow and temperature. It’s called a handle. All the best Clive.
the three outputs are normally the bath spout (the single control which is placed near the spout which for a large bath can be distant from the shower and in reach of someone sitting in the bath), the overhead fixed showerhead and a handheld shower wand on a hose for 'cleaning down below' (the dual control thats placed on the wall for use when standing under the shower)
A one word question springs to mind!
Why?
😅
They've went and proved the saying: The more they over think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drains.
Louis Rossmann has warned many times about the dangers/risks of cloud-based functionality. This is just another example of that.
He never told me!
I also aint a fan of cloud iot devices. Even if its trusted vendors like apple i dont trust any of them. Local control is just better
That man knows what he's talking about!
RT32EI -> TRSF3232EIPWR: 3-V TO 5.5-V Two-Channel RS-232 1-Mbit/s Line Driver and Reciever
4551B -> BU4551BF: Quad 2ch Analog Multiplexer/Demultiplexer
ATH444 -> @alexv3780 already identified as AT24C04C: 4kbit i2c eeprom
Z1361DI1 -> AOZ1361DI: 28V/2A Programmable Current-Limited Load Switch
363ABB -> MLX90363: Triaxial Magnetometer IC with High Speed Serial Interface
The inductor on the opposite side of the hall angle sensor could be to extend the magnet's field by focusing the field lines throught the ferrite spool.
Would have liked to be able to see the part number on those switching power supply ICs though ;)
Do you know what? I have a twisty little thing on the wall, above the sink. You twist it one way and the water flows. Twist it the other way and the water stops. You can also select a point in between to choose a rate of flow that you prefer. It's been there for at least forty years and works every time - no electrics, no electronics, just grip on to it and twist. Just the way a water tap should be.
What was that famous quote from Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott, when he nobbled the USS Excelsior? "The more you overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain"!
Magical. 😂
But you can't get likes on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok etc, sharing pictures and videos of a classic water tap unless it's made of gold and the handle has diamonds 😉
Joints still have to be changed from time to time. Corrosion and wear is still a thing, especially after 40 years of service.
Though manual thermostatic mixing valve (or a non-mixing thermo valve for hot water radiators) are way more convenient than messing with old taps.
This is one of the reasons why I am hesitant about buying smart energy monitors or locks, If the service goes down it basically becomes an expensive paper weight. Thanks for the tear down Clive. :D
Single button is remote start - push it as you enter bathroom and the shower dumps all the cold water out of the pipes and gets to temp before you get under.
Outputs of main head are probably handset, rain head and bath filler
"Internet of things specialist contractor": Usually that's that single person in the family that can switch on anf off a computer, or "does something with computers" at work. In the old days we were abused each holiday to repair printers or wifi, now it is about repairing the smart home stuff.
yes. you learn enought to stand on your own two feet with IT and keep up enough to keep your own stuff going, then everyone else in the family who couldn't be arsed thinks its your job for the next two decades to fix evey piece of chinese crap with a blue LED on it. I have family members who haven't spoken to me for 10 years because I eventually told them to take their computer to the local computer shop insted of turning up at my house every other saturday night.
@@moonshinepznot a loss to be honest 😅
"Just call that nerd", eh?
nowadays you dont tend to get the holidays off either XD
@@NinoJoel very true. a blessed relief!
There should be a law or a mandate,
where if a company goes belly up or "dissolves",
they have to provide the server-side functionalities in some sort of a repository...
Or when the company gets bought up and the service essentially disappears overnight, there needs to be a requirement,
that the new company either provides further support, until -it- goes belly up, or until they discontinue the product.
After that, same thing- they have to push out either the server files or unlock all functionalities, that tie the device to an outside source...
For anything that "phones home" for any task should be required to provide the server files for the devices to remain operable...
And as a sort of closure, the devices should get a last "EOL update", where specific details (server address to contact, login credentials, ip-address, etc.) are wiped from the device.
I hate it when stuff like this happens.
Fridges, washing machines, door locks, vacuum robots...
~ 2 years of service and after that one can throw away half of the bought inventory...
Riiight, and where would the money come from if the firm just went belly-up? YEah, good luck with that.
That EVE 9V disposable battery is also quite interesting as it has PCB inside with diodes across the cells to stop reverse charging when one of the 3 cells gets empty before others._
This teardown was well-clived. Thank you.
Another REALLY fun failure mode for IoT stuff (and Starlink made this mistake too) is how stuff now factory-resets by turning power on/off 2-3 times in a row. It can be hard to do as a person, but it seems power company line-reclosers are GREAT at a consistent on-off-on-off as they attempt to reset the grid with a tree or something on the wires, and can quickly factory-reset every smart-bulb and Starlink router in the area! Then you get to spend time one by one re-pairing each bulb to its base and reprogramming your Starlink router until the next time it happens again.
That's an interesting side effect.
Tbh it's better then some of the over complicated methods that I've seen. Power on for 1 second, off, wait 1s, on 1s, off, wait 5s, on 2s, off, wait 10s, on 3s, off, wait 5s, on.
Congrats you have now factory reset your bulb, if you were off at all during this you failed and try again. The stupid fuck took me over an hour to reset.. And then it forgot the WiFi network a day later.
@@Underskore that's when you buy a smart switch just so you can program the reset sequence in and fire it with a button lol
IT TAKES TWO BABY 🎵🎵 To make a IoT device.
We love it when Clive goes in deeper. 😃
Its a right waste of materials when you think about the components and time thats gone into R&D. Its got a good action on the knob we like to feel some feedback. nice update 2x👍
As someone who has worked in IT for decades, this is why I have limited connected devices in my home. The ones I do have don't rely on a service somewhere else. All local.
See, I like this cautionary tale. Personally I love automation, I love the idea of telling my house what to do, but I'm also very wary of connecting my house to who-knows-what server in who-knows-where. This is why I like to make my own automation stuff. I don't need to automate turning on my shower, but I like my volumes going up and down according to the time of day or if I get a phone call. Things that are actually convenient to *me*, and mostly stuff that you just won't find. I like to integrate things that aren't already inherently integrated, or in ways that weren't necessarily intended. It's a lot, and I don't get anything near as polished as this, but the upshot is that if anything breaks, I made it so I know how to fix it.
I've been watching your videos for years now and I'm still excited for a new one every time. Thank you for what you do, you've inspired *SO* many of my projects it would be impossible to thank you enough.
You go to have a shower, turn on the tap, there is a small leak pushing the corrosion over the edge on the motor/encoder while you shower. You are done, and it cannot turn off again. Fun!
And then it soaks something at live mains voltage and then you have a disco shower.
@@JamesChurchill3 connecting the plumbing to earth is part of the electrician job as well as installing at least one differential current relay.
"Smart" seems to be the new branding for Landfill 😀
That rattle 2:10 is a servo stalling (I know you knew this)... 🤣Love your uploads, Big Fella! 👍
3:50 Had to leave. That servo self destructing is too painful.
Geared motor with magnetic encoder just not getting the message back to the controller. Probably due to the corrosion.
"Should we add an LCD screen just in case the network goes down so the thing still works"
"Nah, that's an extra 50 cents and our network will never go down"
This thing reminds me of that Dilbert skit about a voice activated shower, and the subsequent issues with the user accidentally saying a number while showering.
Smart Taps😂 What could possibly go wrong🤣🤣🤣
I build my own iot things because you never know when they are going to update it out of service
The only automation I'd want in my home is a cooking and dish-washing robot. Everything else, I prefer doing myself and not worry about cloud-based services randomly being inaccessible or discontinued.
I learned my lesson about such devices in reading Rod Serling's short story "A Thing About Machines".
Along with toothbrushes, this fits into the category "Dumb things to Wi-Fi enable."
While the geek in me loves the concept of home automation, I use it very sparingly. I have a ZWave raspberry pi controller, but it only does a few things. I have a pocket door that prohibits mounting a decent electrical box so I put a wireless button to control the room lights (and if turning them off will also turn off the ceiling fan). It also makes a hall switch into a faux 3-way (I already had z wave and it was easier than running new wire). In both cases, it works even if the controller dies - you just have to walk across the room to shut off the ceiling fan 😂
Home automation? I'm in danger.
ZWave has been great, I wound up with a whole bunch of Monster branded Leviton ZWave products and have been using them with the Monster remote control for many years but I’ve been wanting to upgrade to an RPi so that multiple devices can act as controllers now that I’m in a house instead of a small studio apartment.
Gadgets like that one can really leave you smarting! The name is an inadvertent warning!
Fascinating. Cheers Clive. The shower equivalent of folding screen phones.
For those times when you want water-outages when you have water, power, or internet outages!
Me= Alexa flush the toilet, Alexa=Just one moment, have you seen whats in there, I'm putting less greens on your shopping list! I will continue to monitor your output!!! , 😂 Smart home stuff it's great.
I love watching these videos, it's so Relaxing. My family and I prefer to turn on the taps and shower on ourselves. Including the lights. It's not that hard.
Shower temperature remote control....
Mummy goes to shower after telling kid off.
Kid screams "Shower temperature 5 degrees"
Brilliant Clive loved the rust everywhere, like you said probably been installed wrong.. iot is not the way forward 😊
I saw someone else post some rules for home automation so I thought I'd put mine (based on theirs):
1. Home automation should always fail to the dumb equivalent
2. Home automation should always be able to be used without the internet at levels of "smart" that don't require the internet (i.e. phone in wifi network to device) and ideally should just allow full open source self-hosting like Home Assistant
3. Home automation should always be built such that parts are modular and replaceable even if the company that originally manufactured it fails. (Documentation for components so that if the logic fails, you can swap in a custom ESP32 board or the like)
4. Home automation should always have dumb physical overrides (i.e. a light switch that ensures the light stays off and a button that ensures it turns on)
Had to laugh when I saw this.
It brought to mind an old Dave Allen sketch entitled 'Home of the Future'
Yes, it is up on TH-cam - lol.
Water and electricity or electric appliances never did get along too well....!!!! Great video.
I have been into home automation for about 4 years now and I have 3 basic rules that I always follow. 1. Every smart device must have a physical switch in addition to being controllable by voice or HomeAssistant. 2. every smart device must be easily removable and restored to the basic non-smart tech that it replaced. 3. Every device must have local control not cloud based control.
No doubt had a subscription fee on top of the £800 product itself.
I do see value in a few possibilities of this product: being able to turn the faucet off if you forget you had it running and leave the house; being able to turn the water on and get up to temperature while you’re grabbing your clothes for a shower, then turn it off so you don’t waste water; automatically turning the water on at a slight trickle when it gets below freezing so the pipes don’t freeze; I’m sure there are other things I could think of.
The problem is, I just don’t see many people wanting to spend ~$1000 on something that adds so few minor conveniences. Smart home devices are prominent because they’ve become cheap or they add value worth the price. People will buy a smoke detector that costs 4 times that of a normal one when it’ll call both you and emergency services when it detects a fire while you’re not home. You’re not going to be able to run a business off of the sort of consumer who will buy a faucet with Alexa integration.
I’d see much more value in an individual unit that could attach to a handle and turn it for you, kind of like those deadbolt turners. Then, even if one failed, you can pop it off and turn the knob yourself. At the very least, this sort of system should be per-faucet, not whole-house.
A lot of connecting wire for a device that is connected to the internet..
I agree with you fully about connecting things in the house to the internet. BTW The same goes for cars with all the electronics in it.
Reminds me of the old saying by Scotty in the third Star Trek movie, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Prophetic .
For a person who has always even preferred a "manual two tap mixer" to even "thermostat mixers" this "cludgeContraption" is beyond hilarious.
And the proverb " a fool and his money are soon parted", comes to mind. :)
Best regards
It is for people with too much money.
IoT devices are the bane of my existence. Irrespective of the technical gaffs that seem to plague all of the kit, there's several networking rules you have to setup in your routing - VLANs for specific IoT devices, special filters, rules, etc.
It's imperative that people realise the danger and general silliness of handing over control of basic amenities to anywhere remote. Hell, I'm sticking with analogue everything despite being pretty damn clued up on tech.
I think it speaks to a wider problem of convenience and security, and how many people are willing to go all in on convenience to the severe detriment of security - and, obviously, in the case of this remote shower thingbob, functionality.
Irrespective, another cracking video Clive.
But it's the philosophy of the stupid age: "Give me convenience, or give me death".
The IOT fanatics are the new "audiophiles".
I wonder when manufacturers will start selling the IoT equivalent of “audio grade cables”.
That’s only on the consumer-grade side - if you DIY a contractor-only system it’s much better. I did a DIY crestron system and know people with DIY Control4 systems and have never had issues.
Well engineered device, interested with those motorized valve. Already watch the second video when you do the least destructive investigation 😊
Awesome Video Big Clive 😊
Hey, I find home automation quite helpful. The key is that everything can still be controlled manually, is hosted locally, and integrates with Google Assistant so I can just talk to most of my rooms and also program a small number of helpful automation flows (e.g., "do these things when I get home").
"Sorry SmarTap, I'm just not that into you." - Based Consumer.
I hate random networked DaaS (device as a service) needing internet to work. never going in my house, only local control. Great video, like always
As a home owner, a good handyman is invaluable. The wife and I had this Croatian guy recommended to us. He has never let us down (if he can't do a job, he knows someone who can). He The best part is he'll give us a discount if we pay in cash. Naturally, living in Chicago, we count ourselves lucky to have found him. I've heard horror stories from some of my friends about less scrupulous repairmen.
Nice croatian people are Hella ambitios and hard workers.
Have several Croatian co workers here in Germany
Nicely modular design to this thing's hardware (if overly complex). Pity they had to go & do the server connectivity instead of allowing it to run locally over at least some kind of open protocol. Could probably replace/augment the switches with cannibalised Zigbee (etc.) relays to resmartify it with a little soldering though. Harder to give it a manual override for the taps, but that should also be possible by adding a thumbwheel around the taps that could be controlled through a hole in the case.
Technological "fluff" but nicely constructed! I can well understand why it carried a premium price tag.
@@woolymittens And also why the company went belly-up, sadly.
Lol I love big clive such awesome content and humor. Idk what to think if this device its fascinating for sure
And speaking of my box o' tat, in it was an ex-British Telecom torch with an interesting battery, a 6v NiCad lantern job with built-in mains & DC chargers, built right into the battery itself, I never knew such a thing existed, but I'm too wussy to dare try recharging it, old batteries don't always want to come back to life after all... :D
I've been reading about magnetic encoders and some of the have a "magnet in the right place" output that can be used to tell if the magnet is too close or too far - and they suggest you use it for a push button.
Our aqualisa 'digital' shower is now coming up to ten years old and still working, although its valves may be getting sticky... I think it has spring-loaded valves so it'll mechanically turn off with a power cut. But it doesn't have any control other than a button / encoder inside the shower cubicle and one outside.
So it'll probably last about as long as a fully mechanical thermostatic shower valve, and I found it much easier to fit. With motors / pump upwards and pipes down...
This would work amazingly well as a fire suppression system for your videos. Activated on the phrase "fire safety tin". ;)
These units use the internals of 1/2 turn ceramic taps/faucets to control the flow to the shower/basin/bath, I did a review of a whole load of ceramic taps/faucets for the tenants panel of my housing association, and I settled for for 1/4 turn ceramic taps/faucets with lever top as the renters of the housing association properties were slowly getting older and lever top ceramic taps/faucets would be easier for the to use.
"You smell"...
"Ye my server's down".
--2024.
I had the smart heating system back in 1990 it was all on site but I had a phone interface. It was brilliant operating heating lights & curtains+ more. It was based on same CPU as the Sinclair computers it works using the house wires with switched wall boxes & was working when I sold the house 20 years on. With no outside service's so not a problem if the service ends & so reliable parts not a problem.
I will NOT own a "connected" appliance and certainly don't need my fridge to alert me of low rutabaga inventory ;-)
I could get in so much trouble with a smart shower in the house...5 mins after start, set temp to all cold...I can hear the scream now, haha
This is why local control is very useful for 'smart' homes. Im not against things like computer controlled lights or speakers as they can be useful but there are times when IoT goes too far. Im saying this a network engineer and tech geek.
I'm waiting for the Smartfart with digital ring piece control, that should really enhance my life!
Can't help remembering a scene from Not the Nine O'Clock News. It was Rowan Atkinson playing a deaf person and the voiceover talked of a new invention where the phone had a flashing 'ringing' light - it seemed plausible until he picked up the phone and couldn't hear. About as useful and sensible as this thing. Is the second nob for remotely turning off the shower when your child has been in there for a hour?
Yes, "...complete with This, A microprocessor base.."
So tempted to find one and re program it :)
This is part of exactly why I try to follow Louis Rossmann's ideals.
The single button is a 'remote' start that would be mounted somewhere outside the shower so you can turn it on before getting in. The three outlets are likely for a tub filler spout, hand held shower and rain head. I have a Triton digital shower in one bathroom and there are some advantages with accurate water temperature and plumbing/servicability, however I don't think I would fit one again and stick with mechanical valvles instead.
15:19 That U1 is a flash memory chip. Relatively common low-capacity (512kbit?) I2C chip used for parameter and data storage. Likely an Atmel.
I recongized the package from my work where we use them for nonvolatile parameter storage.
Thanks for this entertaining upload! What crazy over-engineering 🤯
Yup, I was just shopping for a simple, basic body scale on Ama###. Could only find one scale that does not need an App to “activate/calibrate/register” via smartphone. I mean, a simple body scale needing an app to work, really? But I needed a digital one since my eye sight sucks, and I cannot clearly see the readout of my old analog one.
A video or two on homeassistant (opensource home assistant) would be an interesting addition, though may be out of scope for the general things. Pi (or random server) + assorted other cheap interoperable devices all local, with voice sometimes.