i know Im asking randomly but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb lost the password. I appreciate any tricks you can offer me.
The edge of the line your marker created was along the edge of each cutout within the original key. Trimming it so the line just disappears is the correct dimension. Think about if you created a copy from the copy, your key would gradually become less functional if the marker line is visible.
Believe it or not you just inspired me to file cut 2 keys with the marker trick. I ended up tipping the original key with a blank on a flat surface and then taped them together with some cellophane tape. I used the marker to trace the cuts and filed to the line. I'm shocked because the duplicate worked the first time. Beginner's luck. (I did make a second copy with the same technique, and it worked too).
I used the lishi cutter on an all keys lost 2002 Opel Astra G .. also used space and dept keys to make the key as I was out in the Australian bush ( no power ) I used the Autel maxidas ds708 to add the id40 chips .to the vehicle .
I duplicate keys by noting the depths of each cut, then using Space & Depth keys make the key. Same problem as the video-- the Lishi leave the cuts high and it's hard to nibble away .010". I usually go to a file for the final pass to the true depth.
Hello PJ, when I first started using a Lishi hand key cutter, I went through so many blanks it wasn't funny. But with practice I became more proficient. I recommend having one in you bag just in case of an emergency. Thank you PJ for another awesome video. Thank you for sharing!
I wound up in a situation of needing some early 60's Ford keys duplicated, but nobody could do it for me in town. I wound up tracing the first few like you did with a pencil and used a mini file set. Triangle/square to mark the location of the cuts. Round file to make the cuts and a flat file to round the ramps and peaks. I've made 5 keys and they've all worked. 3 work perfect, 2 work good and if I messed with them some more they'd work perfect too. So, I guess that method works too lol.
Decode with lishi tool. Scribe key blank with callipers according to manufacturer spec . sheet. Use lishi cutter to cut key to lock on the spot. Touch up with jewellers files and 800 grit sand paper. Door unlocked and key replaced in 10-15 mins.
Ha, I use a hpc1200 to impression. Speaking of impressioning, you guys got to check out this guys method. So impressive. th-cam.com/video/sSfK6nw0hD8/w-d-xo.html or search Rosendo Cerrajero
I don't have one, but I think I'd be trying to nibble a little at a time, mic-ing the depth each time. Maybe try to speed the process up a little by seeing where the proper cut lined up with the indicators on the anvil of the tool. Any issues with key deformation?
Great job.However I feel that this would be best for cutting keys for wafer locks(As they have loose tolerances and high accuracy isn’t necessary for smooth operation)
Just getting into the trade and I'm glad I stumbled upon this video early! I'm going to pick one of those cutters up asap and give it a try. I think a dremel with a carbide bit and then swap out to a Cratex rubber wheel to clean up the burrs. Thanks for this and all the comments guys! Subbed👌
I used these lishi cutters a lot with a school that had a lot of vintage Schlage locks that used SC22 key blanks that needed cut or duplicated. Thanks for sharing!🙏🏼✌🏼 #lockboss
That is amazingly simple. I appreciate the information. Some folks dont have unlimited funds to purchase the right tool for every job. That being said it's good to learn which tools have some versatility for future reference. I find it rewarding finding different ways accomplish a job. Not having a lot of professional training can be challenging. Often times finding alternative methods isn't just for fun there's no other choice! I just found your channel and I like it already. PJ's funny and ha a great attitude. keep the info coming. Thanks. #lockboss
Another great adaptation of the LiShi cutters is some schlage guides 3d printed over at red team tools. I'd love to see something like that in your catalog PJ. #lockboss
Remember when you mark the key with the sharpie you need to remove the line from the blank. If you leave the line you didnt cut deep enough. Woodworkers always havecto remember rather to leave the and what side of the to cut
Try it with an actual schlage deadbolt with it's original factory key. The cheapest cutters are my old Foly-Belsaw 200s; I own 2. Properly adjusted I need one try, perfect, no clicks as I heard in the video. Doing for 37 years.
So far I have had no success with this. The technique I saw was to pair the keys with a vise grip and use the existing key as a guide. I pinned up a cutaway lock to test against. I did a bit of filing to try to correct, then threw away the 2 failed attempts. I am quite sure this takes a bit of trial and error / practice. Glad I bought 50 SC1 blanks.
Lockboss# Really good information on Lisha cutter. Along with space and depth key. If you had a recommendation for some really good files that would be killer.
i wonder how the cuts look. a 1200 is pretty square and smooth on both edges. pak-a-punch and blue punch have one edge of cut square and the other edge like it was stretched and snapped off. theres a minimum amount of material one can remove or the cutter just slides off.
This tool is amazing for impressioning with... I love this tool. Could you guys do a video on the HPC 1200 PCH? I’m interested to see that machine a little more. I was thinking about buying one, but the only videos I could find don’t really show too much in depth compared to videos on other punch machines. #Lockboss
I line the keys up, clamp them with vice grips then chip away until it's close. Then I use a file and a bit of impressioning to finish them off. Only takes a few minutes to make a key.
That is how I tried after watching a video. So far, 2 tries and a bit of filing and they went in the trash. I've seen this cutter work, but it obviously takes practice.
I made a jig to hold a blank in alignment with an original or D&S key to more accurately cut with it a few years ago. Makes it very easy and repeatable. photos.app.goo.gl/SGeaQ4LtKAcNT6HT9
Brilliant buddy,I’m thinking of trying to start car key cutting and programming, I’ve absolutely no experience hence the reason I’m checking out TH-cam vids, I’m definitely going to buy one of those lishi cutters and practice if nothing else i might get a few house keys out of it, many thanks from Edinburgh Scotland 🏴👍
I figured out how to make this work on the cheap! My target was an SC1. I removed the SC1 plug from a cheap lock. Pinned it with the original pinning. Paired the 2 keys with vise grips. Nipped using the original as a guide. Inserted the new and found 3 of 5 were close. A little filing till the pins were flush with the plug and SUCCESS!
In trying to cut a motorcycle key with the lishi, it's doing my head in.. I can't hold the keys together for a good tracing, as they have molded covers. I feel I may be missing something obvious, but what's the best way to get an accurate template to cut to with the lishi, on a key that requires both edges be symmetrical like a two way motorcycle wafer key?
Stencil on paper and transfer that way maybe? Or even press it in some silly putty and use it as a template or something like that. Or heck, trace original key on paper, cut out the template and tape it to the blank then nip away lol
@@AndrewClairTaylor I also figured out how they were held in the plastic base of the key to remove them.. Earlier Ducati keys have a little metal rivet through the key into the plastic, under the little silver D symbol. Once they're out, they can be aligned. I also went a little further and bought a key cutting machine/duplicator. And also.. I think I had purchased a non genuine lishi cutter. The original is actually cheaper and can be found on the lishi official web page, which I didn't know existed when I first bought it. Learning all the time :D Thanks for your help. I think that may be useful on non removable bladed keys.
@@breaddrinker I'm glad you got it sorted out. I had no idea keys could be removed that way, that's something I'll have to look for in the future if I ever come across that issue. I had one other idea as well but didn't suggest it as it would have cost you more. SInce you went and bought the duplicator machine, I guess cost wouldn't have been important lol. I was going to suggest if the paper method didn't work to use a hacksaw and just hack the head off the key, then buy 2 blanks to transfer to. That way you'll at least always have a metal template in a drawer somewhere but still have two keys haha Happy it all worked out though and thanks for the follow up!
@@AndrewClairTaylor Thanks man. I really appreciate you taking the time.. The cutting the key off isn't a bad idea as far as things go.. If you can align them, metal to metal, you're pretty much guaranteed a good copy. I kept kind of upgrading myself to the next step.. The duplicator is an antique, and was barely more expensive than the Lishi on craigslist. Foley Belsaw 200 if you're interested. They were a bundle in a key cutting course.. They still have the course actually, but there's a lot of these old machines around with barely any use on them.
Can you expand on why you don’t recommend it? It seems like the issue is the potentially large margin of error in both depth and spacing. Is that the problem?
You and I both know that a set of mini files from Harbor Freight will do a much better job than this, heck with some practice you can do double sided automotive keys with just a mini file set. This “tool” is for sure a waste of $30 when you can get a used key machine for around a hundred if you really want to cut keys.
It's a damn good tool. Ive had one for 3 years now, and use it often, in more situations than what you 've seen here. UGH!!! I really like your negativity.
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How do you like to use the Lishi Cutter?
Duplicating keys surreptitiously. What other use could their be? 😁
planning on making my first challenge lock within the next few months, definitely will have to pick one up and a couple of files
Mass produce bump keys to homeless people and watch the chaos ensue.
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The edge of the line your marker created was along the edge of each cutout within the original key. Trimming it so the line just disappears is the correct dimension. Think about if you created a copy from the copy, your key would gradually become less functional if the marker line is visible.
Now I'll never have to worry about the do not duplicate. This video saved my life
Believe it or not you just inspired me to file cut 2 keys with the marker trick. I ended up tipping the original key with a blank on a flat surface and then taped them together with some cellophane tape. I used the marker to trace the cuts and filed to the line. I'm shocked because the duplicate worked the first time. Beginner's luck. (I did make a second copy with the same technique, and it worked too).
I used the lishi cutter on an all keys lost 2002 Opel Astra G .. also used space and dept keys to make the key as I was out in the Australian bush ( no power ) I used the Autel maxidas ds708 to add the id40 chips .to the vehicle .
James, Awesome! -PJ
I duplicate keys by noting the depths of each cut, then using Space & Depth keys make the key. Same problem as the video-- the Lishi leave the cuts high and it's hard to nibble away .010". I usually go to a file for the final pass to the true depth.
Peter, thanks for sharing! -PJ
I also thought that a file would have been good to use during different parts
Then switch to metric lol 1mm
i use the Lishi cutter for Schlage locks. works great. and If a cut is off high i use a file to fix it. great video.. by the way.
It’s also very good for Re Cutting an existing key to match one with close bitting.
Hello PJ, when I first started using a Lishi hand key cutter, I went through so many blanks it wasn't funny. But with practice I became more proficient. I recommend having one in you bag just in case of an emergency.
Thank you PJ for another awesome video.
Thank you for sharing!
Agreed, once you get the hang of it you want one with you at all times in case you might need it! -PJ
I wound up in a situation of needing some early 60's Ford keys duplicated, but nobody could do it for me in town. I wound up tracing the first few like you did with a pencil and used a mini file set. Triangle/square to mark the location of the cuts. Round file to make the cuts and a flat file to round the ramps and peaks. I've made 5 keys and they've all worked. 3 work perfect, 2 work good and if I messed with them some more they'd work perfect too. So, I guess that method works too lol.
Nice work! -PJ
Funny. Every Ford I’ve owned could (eventually) be started with a screwdriver!
I have really old Ford blanks on my board
Decode with lishi tool. Scribe key blank with callipers according to manufacturer spec . sheet. Use lishi cutter to cut key to lock on the spot. Touch up with jewellers files and 800 grit sand paper.
Door unlocked and key replaced in 10-15 mins.
Great for making emergency bump keys
great video pj! i use the lishi cutter for impressioning key blanks instead of filing
Jerry! Awesome, I'm going to do a video on that soon! -PJ
Ha, I use a hpc1200 to impression.
Speaking of impressioning, you guys got to check out this guys method. So impressive.
th-cam.com/video/sSfK6nw0hD8/w-d-xo.html or search Rosendo Cerrajero
Then we also can do it with a dremel. just need thin point marker.
Lishi makes some neat tools and this is definitely one of them-an apprentice in maintenanceland:)
I don't have one, but I think I'd be trying to nibble a little at a time, mic-ing the depth each time. Maybe try to speed the process up a little by seeing where the proper cut lined up with the indicators on the anvil of the tool. Any issues with key deformation?
Ghost, I did not have any issue with key deformation. That's a good idea! -PJ
Great job.However I feel that this would be best for cutting keys for wafer locks(As they have loose tolerances and high accuracy isn’t necessary for smooth operation)
Absolutely agree! I did a pin tumbler lock to show that it "can" be done. Thanks for the comment! -PJ
Yes, that's what they were designed for, and all those blanks you get with your Lishi picks that everyone throws in the bin.
Just getting into the trade and I'm glad I stumbled upon this video early! I'm going to pick one of those cutters up asap and give it a try. I think a dremel with a carbide bit and then swap out to a Cratex rubber wheel to clean up the burrs. Thanks for this and all the comments guys! Subbed👌
Would this work for a mercury grand marquis 2008.SIR ????
I used these lishi cutters a lot with a school that had a lot of vintage Schlage locks that used SC22 key blanks that needed cut or duplicated. Thanks for sharing!🙏🏼✌🏼 #lockboss
Awesome!-PJ
That is amazingly simple. I appreciate the information. Some folks dont have unlimited funds to purchase the right tool for every job. That being said it's good to learn which tools have some versatility for future reference. I find it rewarding finding different ways accomplish a job. Not having a lot of professional training can be challenging. Often times finding alternative methods isn't just for fun there's no other choice! I just found your channel and I like it already. PJ's funny and ha a great attitude. keep the info coming. Thanks. #lockboss
Thank you and welcome!-PJ
Mannn your definitely the key boss need to start making more current videos!!
Thank you for this very helpful video! What kind of blank keys are the best to get (I am going to order some from Amazon or Ebay)?
So easy, let's say as emergency solution, very very good.
Thanks so much
Pj. Got my lishi cutter from clksupplies and thanks for the tips. Use
The right way. Learning
Video. Glmsr
Another great adaptation of the LiShi cutters is some schlage guides 3d printed over at red team tools. I'd love to see something like that in your catalog PJ. #lockboss
yea but those suck. There are some better designs that use 3d printed guides that slide over the key
Nice video. Does it work well on tool box keys and car keys?
Remember when you mark the key with the sharpie you need to remove the line from the blank. If you leave the line you didnt cut deep enough. Woodworkers always havecto remember rather to leave the and what side of the to cut
Thanks
Try it with an actual schlage deadbolt with it's original factory key. The cheapest cutters are my old Foly-Belsaw 200s; I own 2. Properly adjusted I need one try, perfect, no clicks as I heard in the video. Doing for 37 years.
So far I have had no success with this. The technique I saw was to pair the keys with a vise grip and use the existing key as a guide. I pinned up a cutaway lock to test against. I did a bit of filing to try to correct, then threw away the 2 failed attempts. I am quite sure this takes a bit of trial and error / practice. Glad I bought 50 SC1 blanks.
Lockboss# Really good information on Lisha cutter. Along with space and depth key. If you had a recommendation for some really good files that would be killer.
Round or pippin files are the best! -PJ
i wonder how the cuts look. a 1200 is pretty square and smooth on both edges. pak-a-punch and blue punch have one edge of cut square and the other edge like it was stretched and snapped off. theres a minimum amount of material one can remove or the cutter just slides off.
This tool is amazing for impressioning with... I love this tool. Could you guys do a video on the HPC 1200 PCH? I’m interested to see that machine a little more. I was thinking about buying one, but the only videos I could find don’t really show too much in depth compared to videos on other punch machines. #Lockboss
I'll see what I can do!-PJ
I line the keys up, clamp them with vice grips then chip away until it's close. Then I use a file and a bit of impressioning to finish them off. Only takes a few minutes to make a key.
Any vedeo please link sir
Perhaps a better/more accurate way would be to clamp the original key to the blank with vise grips and then load them both into the cutter.
That is how I tried after watching a video. So far, 2 tries and a bit of filing and they went in the trash. I've seen this cutter work, but it obviously takes practice.
Hay pj the only cutter I have .if you file and clean up it really helps..I have been saving my pennies for nomad from you .😎
Awesome video!
Could you clamp the key to the blank (maybe a set of Vise Grips on the bows) to use the original as sort of a depth stop?
Yes, you can! That is a way better option, I was trying to take it to the extreme! -PJ
I made a jig to hold a blank in alignment with an original or D&S key to more accurately cut with it a few years ago. Makes it very easy and repeatable. photos.app.goo.gl/SGeaQ4LtKAcNT6HT9
Peter Fox if you ever make more of those I want one!, awesome idea!
@@peterfox2565 Woah! Nice work. Now I want a milling machine!
@@peterzenner2020 it could be done with a hacksaw, tap, drill, and 2 plates of aluminum or steel.
I have one on order gonna use it for making bump keys hopefully :)
Looks good
Thanks. One of the best video about that tool. Is it running well with steel metal? Thanks
Yes he can!!! Oh , the video is not over!
Brilliant buddy,I’m thinking of trying to start car key cutting and programming, I’ve absolutely no experience hence the reason I’m checking out TH-cam vids, I’m definitely going to buy one of those lishi cutters and practice if nothing else i might get a few house keys out of it, many thanks from Edinburgh Scotland 🏴👍
Awesome-PJ
That's a great instructional video...
I really need one of those cutters
It's good how much is it.
I figured out how to make this work on the cheap! My target was an SC1. I removed the SC1 plug from a cheap lock. Pinned it with the original pinning. Paired the 2 keys with vise grips. Nipped using the original as a guide. Inserted the new and found 3 of 5 were close. A little filing till the pins were flush with the plug and SUCCESS!
Don't have one, but it might be handy for key progression.
Sorry for the noob question: Why it isn't the recommended method if it just works?
Would be great if they had a line up top that says "1" "2"..etc. instead od having to trace
thanks for the skills and tools !
Could you do a video on the triton S8 jaw key creation. there's no info online. would be amazing if you would and probably helpful to many
For sure! -PJ
Where to buy,how much coast ?
I don’t I use some old school watch making fils and I can duplicate almost any cut key tho I’d prefer to be using this cutter
I did get me one and have enjoyed it but still learning the tweak the keys with it
#Lockboss
🙌PJ
That's amazing, definitely getting this tool👍
Does it works on medeco keys?
It would not
Very good and fast
I've been able to cut house keys, car keys, motorcycle keys, cabinet keys, and even Best keys with this cutter!👍😎 #Lockboss
the key Cutting price
hi there so nice bro
where did i can get this lishi hand key cutter
anyone help me to get this cutter many thanks
On my list of tools to add to my collection 👍😎🤠🇺🇸
Will this work well with double side 2002 Honda Odyssey key?
Yes if its a edge cut but I think that is a high security style-PJ
Keep up the good work
I want this product
Another good video #Lockboss
Will it work on a disc detainer key?
I would have e to see it but is should!
New #lockboss just ordered my lishi cutter and look forward to using it soon
Thanks for the support Mike-PJ
how much?
About $67 www.clksupplies.com/products/lishi-key-cutter-clipper
Hey how can I get one in Kenya
Do those Do more than schlage?
Yes-PJ
What a coincidence. This is the exact video I saw on amozon
Good job
can use show how to "smoke a key" for making keys by hand with a file?
I'll see what I can do! Thanks-PJ
@@clksupplies youre the best. Thanks
Awesome!!! 👌
Best tool
Nice how can I buy it
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In trying to cut a motorcycle key with the lishi, it's doing my head in.. I can't hold the keys together for a good tracing, as they have molded covers.
I feel I may be missing something obvious, but what's the best way to get an accurate template to cut to with the lishi, on a key that requires both edges be symmetrical like a two way motorcycle wafer key?
Honestly, plastic head is tough-PJ
Stencil on paper and transfer that way maybe? Or even press it in some silly putty and use it as a template or something like that.
Or heck, trace original key on paper, cut out the template and tape it to the blank then nip away lol
@@AndrewClairTaylor I also figured out how they were held in the plastic base of the key to remove them.. Earlier Ducati keys have a little metal rivet through the key into the plastic, under the little silver D symbol.
Once they're out, they can be aligned.
I also went a little further and bought a key cutting machine/duplicator.
And also.. I think I had purchased a non genuine lishi cutter. The original is actually cheaper and can be found on the lishi official web page, which I didn't know existed when I first bought it.
Learning all the time :D
Thanks for your help. I think that may be useful on non removable bladed keys.
@@breaddrinker I'm glad you got it sorted out. I had no idea keys could be removed that way, that's something I'll have to look for in the future if I ever come across that issue. I had one other idea as well but didn't suggest it as it would have cost you more. SInce you went and bought the duplicator machine, I guess cost wouldn't have been important lol. I was going to suggest if the paper method didn't work to use a hacksaw and just hack the head off the key, then buy 2 blanks to transfer to. That way you'll at least always have a metal template in a drawer somewhere but still have two keys haha
Happy it all worked out though and thanks for the follow up!
@@AndrewClairTaylor Thanks man. I really appreciate you taking the time..
The cutting the key off isn't a bad idea as far as things go.. If you can align them, metal to metal, you're pretty much guaranteed a good copy.
I kept kind of upgrading myself to the next step.. The duplicator is an antique, and was barely more expensive than the Lishi on craigslist.
Foley Belsaw 200 if you're interested. They were a bundle in a key cutting course.. They still have the course actually, but there's a lot of these old machines around with barely any use on them.
All I need is a photo of thr key and my Trumph Fiber Laser at work will cut one in 1.7 seconds
cheaper than a file? :P
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Does this work on auto keys?
Sure-PJ
Why?
I've often thought about how they worked. #Lockboss
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You could have used a file too.
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I broke one of these “key clippers”, doing this. So I’d recommend taking small bites to avoid stressing the clipper too much.
Yep, just a bit at a time! Curious, what blank did you break it on?-PJ
@@clksupplies I really can’t say for certain, as it was a few years ago, but I believe it was an H92.
Can you expand on why you don’t recommend it? It seems like the issue is the potentially large margin of error in both depth and spacing. Is that the problem?
Hey Steve, it's not a bad way...it's just not the most efficient way to duplicate a key. -PJ
Price +adress please👍🙏
You and I both know that a set of mini files from Harbor Freight will do a much better job than this, heck with some practice you can do double sided automotive keys with just a mini file set. This “tool” is for sure a waste of $30 when you can get a used key machine for around a hundred if you really want to cut keys.
Really just having fun! -PJ
Lena hai
You don’t blink…
Not that great! Especially for keys with tiny areas it won't fit or cut every key!
Ugh! You’d need to cut the entire black sharpie mark off because you traced ABOVE the key. Marking with sharpie is a bit ridiculous as well
It's a damn good tool. Ive had one for 3 years now, and use it often, in more situations than what you 've seen here. UGH!!! I really like your negativity.
@@samlott99 6 mos,3 mos,0 mos,here goes: lol
Yeah... but he is 100pc right; it is
Can we admit that the Lishi Cutter is a pair of tin-snips?
Pretty much -PJ
What language is this guy talking in ?
English
Here's a cheaper key cutting machine: a file.
Haha, love it-PJ