Have fond memories of the 1950 docklands, where I was born, lots of good people but by the time I was 10, I knew education was the only way I could create a good life for myself. Eventually got my degree and jumped on the next plane to Australia, pure heaven, beautiful life. Yes, some nostalgia remains in this old man but it doesn't hide the facts of those times. Nothing stands still.
How heartwarming, yet heartbreaking at the same time. They built houses with character back then and they lasted. Now they build houses that look like boxes and they're falling apart within 40 years of construction. Progress my a*** lol
I think there is a natural human sway towards nostalgia as it often links a person in with their formative memories from childhood into early adulthood. There is rarely simply good & bad as polar opposites. Yes neighbourhoods were more 'neighbourly' but let's not forget that a lot of what got pulled down in Liverpool (and lots of other cities) in the 60's was pretty awful slum conditions & buildings still damaged from the war. This is not to say what came after was necessarily better or worse, just different. Life is a constant process of change, as is our world, try not to cling too much to what has gone. If you feel the neighbourhood spirit has gone or been lost, then put energy into re-building it, not being melancholic about the loss of it.
That spot the photo was taken of the main square in Sir Thomas White gardens was the site of the caretakers office. The caretaker at the time around 1967-68 was a man named Johnny Prendergast. Johnny was a honest and nice man who had a limb and walked with difficulty, he acquired the injury to his leg in North Africa in WW11. I can recall Johnny was always willing to help anyone in a difficult situation. He was a man of true ethics.
My family lived in Druid St near Heyworth St. My two older brothers knocked around with a Tommy Prendergast. I wonder if Tommy and John were related. I do know Tommy was related to a mate of mine named Tony Miello. Tony and I worked together in the fruit mkt. And we had some great laughs together.
My grandparents were the last people to run The Justice (0.31 seconds into the video) in the early 70's. Some of my first memories were there. They were bankrupted due to a strike, had to leave and the pub ended. It sat serenely like a ship on the sea, wasteland all around us as everything else had been demolished and cleared.
I was born in Greta street L8 in 1952. We were one of the poorest families on the street I was very selfconscious of it. I hated living there as a teenager i would lie in bed a night imagining how lovely it must be to live in a house you weren’t embarrassed about. Saying that, it doesn’t stop me looking back and feeling nostalgic for all my family who are now no longer here.
Mick Williams True Mick, some poorer than others...I only had to step inside my friends homes to see the difference. It’s weird how nostalgic we become the older we get especially as I couldn’t wait to escape that life.
It's funny isn't it, my family were also one of the poorer families in a very poor area (we lived in Arthur Street off Rice Lane Liverpool 9) and at the time I couldn't wait to get away, now I would give anything to go back and stay there. We had nothing but it seemed a simpler world and one i understood...feel a bit lost in today's world to be honest.
David Carey I know what you mean about feeling lost. For me I think it’s because I was the youngest of seven children and always referred to as ‘ the baby ‘ even as I got older. Now I’m the only one left, feeling like an abandoned baby in some ways. I try not to dwell on it too much because it does me no good. I’m very fortunate in that I have a great husband and a lovely home but so miss having the ups and downs of brothers and sisters.
my grandma used to live at 62 hawkins street most of her life.i loved visiting liverpool from the states.newsham park,and boaler street school,and church street.and of couse anfield.were some places i remember.cheers mate go lfc.
I love the pool wouldn't live anywhere else but looking at the pics brings sadness the streets played on and houses lived in by people no longer exist just memories left of what we done and did together because now it's all gone
I was born in Liverpool (Bootle - walton end) and I lived there until around 1956. My grandfather (who brought me up) was a Dock Gateman. I now live in Australia and having viewed these scenes and the scenes of new Liverpool central - I hardly recognised anything! Mainly St George's Hall, The Lime street Hotel, Empire theatre and the buildings surrounding the Library etc. were the ones I recognised, The tunnel entrance has altered so much too. Still reeling from the shock of the change like Scotland Road, now a dual driveway with trees! Now there are no streets off it like there used to be - all gone. I haven't returned to Liverpool since I left so would like to see it now.
@@mybeautifulview Really all I can remember is that his main dock was Langton Dock, then he also was sent to Brocklebank, Huskisson Hornby and occasionally Gladstone. His duties were checking vehicles in/out. He used to cycle in all weathers and all shifts (day and night) to and fro to work until his retirement. We lived away from the docks on the Walton border (but just in Bootle). I can just remember as a small child seeing Bryant & May go on fire (I think a bomb hit it) and we all watched from our bedroom window. Hartley's Jam went too. I think a big mistake was taking down the overhead railway, I had a few rides on that and you could see over the dock walls from it.
@@beverly7710 thanks for sharing Beverly, I love this! I could picture everything you just portrayed. I definitely agree with you about the Overhead... imagine what an incredible asset and attraction that would be now x
i feel so sad when i watch old vids of liverpool because it only shows you the destruction brought on by the planners,i remember just how full of life all those nieghbourhoods where before there destruction of those communities...i WAS there when they bulldozed it to the ground and i witnessed people crying there eyes out,sure the houses were slums but the people in those communities were the friendliest welcoming people i have ever known.good luck with your project...tony flanagan
This destruction of communities has happened in so many places in the name of progress. Peoples' lives are shattered by the experience...friends moved away and lost possibly for ever. Granted, houses need improvement and modernising, but it's been proved time and again that it's cheaper to renovate the old places than pull them down and rebuild. You can bet your bottom dollar that none of the city's planners lived in these places.
Left Liverpool in the 1980s and was astonished to see the dock rd from town toward seaforth still like this when there on business 2 yrs ago. Can't believe a developer hasn't bought the entire area dropping down from Everton brow the view over the mersey and out to the Irish sea is immense. Bar selected historical buildings the entire 60s and 70s shite could be leveled and a top class village environment constructed linking to the already expanded city centre 10 mins walk away. Massive opportunity there. I bet the council would pay to take it off their hands.
I'm quite surprised that Great Britain was hit by the same "demolition-mania" as Czechoslovakia in the 1960s and the 1970s. They destroyed community for impersonal towerblocks...so sad, as here in Prague :(
They upped and moved whole communities to other areas. Everyone we knew gone. Great Homer street was our home and my playground. They gave no thought to the people involved. Such a huge and very painful memory.
Just to think that they tore down some of the most beautiful buildings and in their place put up crime factories in the skies in their place. Nothing short of vandalism and short sightedness.
As John Coding says--below, these houses were in a terrible state, beyond improvement , and not fit for human habitation. It is easy for some, to view these scenes with a sense of nostalgia. what they are missing, is the commeradery and sense of community , i.e, we were all in it together. What should have been done--as mentioned below, is that these streets perhaps, could have kept their shape and structure, but with new home designs with modern materials and facilities. I'm no planner or civil engineer, but had they have been able to build the new, as the old was cleared away, continuity and and sense of belonging would have been preserved, instead of the terrible shock of being uprooted and dumped in isolation, miles away. This happened in ALL major cities, I lived in Birmingham and Bristol throughout the 60's--70's, so witnessed it first hand. It must not be forgotten though, that Britain was virtually bankrupt after the war, many thousands of homes destroyed by war, before the slums were tackled. People were living in old Train carriages, buses, and abandoned military camps, with no water or power. Desperate times indeed.
@tonyflanagan. It happened all over the country. Where the houses could have been restored and improved they just destroyed them, and the communities with them. It has happened under Blair and Brown, I understand that in some towns perfectly good houses have been pulled down and not a brick has been laid to replace them over the last 10 to 12 years.
I was a Granada TV repairman in Liverpool 1 to 5 and each day I went into 10 houses or so. Netherfield Rd. Scotland road. Breck road. Tommy White and Gerard gardens were daily calls. The people were fantastic. I grew up in Speke. I don't know why they didn't knock down and rebuild in the same spot. They destroyed the communities. First pic is of Goodison Road.
Many of those streets could have been kept with the houses modernized instead of being destroyed. Planners thought they were gods instead of serving the people, so they destroyed communities quite happily.
I often wonder if planners so hated old houses they were determined to sweep everything away rather demolishing the bad and renovating some of the better properties. My first housexwas a small terraced house in East Ham London. In terraced street like in film built 1908.. Now most in area are reroofed renovated and extended and sell for 500,000 pounds and are. Very sought after as family homes.
It’s easy to be nostalgic but some of those buildings were falling down. Poor quality shattered brick, insufficient foundations, rot, subsidence, damp, poor build quality. Some time ago a comment was made about Liverpool 1 but that was built on an area that had been devastated in the blitz. Unfortunately some buildings simply crumbled away because the owners were absent. The council was unable to do anything about them at one time. I am pleased these photos exist. It is such a historic record.
My mom was born in Portland St, in 1905, and I managed to obtain a photocopy of it from Liverpool History Dept. They had been taken in the mid 30's, but They had a policy of photographing streets before they demolished them, so they told me ( moms was demolished just before my enquiry in 1972. So I'm surprised that you are unable to obtain further pictures.
I was born and raised in stonewall st, of everton terrace. Lovely memories, poor but fine family and community. Many of the streets needed pulling down but many fine buildings could have been restored and the community kept together. We were moved to Croxteth.... thanks.
I was born and raised in Everton loved my upbringing playing among the slums and tenements of the area! we got offered Tower hill etc but my mam wanted to stay in the city centre area and I cant blame her! we moved to a maisonette block on Great homer street and it was ok! better than going miles out the city
and I'm going back to the early 70s.........I don't want no trolls, this is fact, its what I remember..... my infant , junior and senior school have all been demolished now, as has the place I was born, all I have is memories.... sandy in the pier head shouting echoooo, jumping on the 12c to get home..... tuebrook, derby village then that horrible council overspill estate, we were forced to go to in 71. I was 5.... cantril farm as it was then called with a 48% unemployment rate... and thatcher .....how I ever survived... Liverpool will always be close to my heart, I live the humour, the history and the people....
Glasgow's cultural development is similar to Glasgow's. Old buildings gone both affected by the potato famine in Ireland a lot of people also immigrated to America and elsewhere. Hard working people.
god..... I remember gt homer st.... the double diamond pub on the edge of everton brow, watching everton bring the cup home, then liverpool, sitting on the tsb bank windowsill..... on Westminster road near the Flemings shop..... omg....
Grafton street..warwick gardens park rd..possibly Windsor street..mill street I saw the flat iron pub (mill st) Sefton street well the pub at least thinking it used to be blue n white as in half n half and it had around 6/7 stairs to climb to get in if memory serves I believe Beaumont street the old flats that was torn down and the ground floor was made into houses..
I grew up in Caryl Gardens Sheila, my family are all around park rd, Admiral st and other parts of the Dingle to this very day. Iv`e lived in Aigburth since 1980. Happy days as a kid, with not a care in the world.
i was born in desmond street in 1964 i was born in one of the houses the motor bike and side car is out side the house i was born in it belonged to my late farther
Agreed with those who, with hindsight, see totally unnecessary destruction of communities (who had no say whatsoever). I've seen 2 up 2 down terraces in Dublin, London, Cheshire, Lancashire reaching over £250,000. Totally restored, of course. Why couldn't those thousands of terraced houses have been completely modernised instead of being demolished and replaced?. Why were some areas left alone to be gathered up by Housing Associations?.
at 3:10 I think shows Belgrave Terrace looking to Aubrey Street. What appears to be a wall running across the end of the street is in fact the retaining wall of the reservoir in Aubrey Street.
The large high view houses @ 3.34 were located at the lower end of Everton Valley I passed each morning on the 544 bus to work in the city centre in the mid 60s. Like others in Sackville Street and Shaw Street were once home to Liverpool's professional workers in Victorian times through to the 50s.
The city was full of life in the 50's and 60's because there was literally more life there, the population has dropped dramatic, maybe by a 1/3 since the 1950s as the work disappeared, if you look at pictures of the dock road from 50-60 years ago, it's mental how much is going on, as the docks are the heart of the city, since the docks only have a fraction of the work they used to have, the heart is in bad shape.
And @ 4.29 Houses either side of Alexander Pope square on Walton Lane, facing Stanley Park. The stood up to the late 60s, and if had been located in London would have been modernised
My dad was born in Hopwood street in 1911 he went back to visit there in later life but had been pulled down still have one uncle and cousins I Liverpool there next door neighbours I believe we're the O'sheas
2:54 is Everton Terrace with the Police Station top left! We lived at 60 Eastbourne Street just around the corner! Big house with even bigger rats! Margret St Baths on a Saturday, Wash house on Thursday and Paddys market for new clothes. Yep those were the Halycon days! I often remember my upbringing and life then, it keeps me grounded in my past. I wouldn't change any of it one iota as it made and shoped me into who I am but I certainly wouldn't want to experience it again!
hi im lookiing for a documentary that was shown on the bbc in the run up to capital of culture year. the film was made in the early 80s{ i think} but followed a member of the band liverpool fishermen around his favourite dock road boozers. any help would be greatly appreciated. finding this piece has bugged me for some time now . cheers
I lived in number 85 priory street (Off Hayworth street) December 65 when I was born until late 69 or early 70 when we were moved out to netherley. where number 87 should have been was a bomb site and a debris for us to have adventures on. There were back alleys and a shop called "wheelers" or possibly wheelans or something just around the corner. the pic at time 18 seconds could easily be priory street or sadly one of dozens of others in that area?
Some of those houses were unfit for human habitation. Prefabs were still very good housing. Unfortunately what they were replaced with were often just as bad. For example mainsonettes. T'he blocks of flats were torn down later. Nowhere to dry your clothes led to mould in rooms. No way for furniture to be taken into rooms e.g. wardrobes in bedrooms. The designers (no they were not architects) admitted they had not thought of these things.
@tonyflanagan when they knocked the slum dwellings down & moved ppl into Gerard Gardens the old women cried they were so used to being so close to their neighbours & didn't want the change...when eventually ppl were moved out of the Bully & GG many ppl didn't want to leave either as they had such a close community between them....
yes, its almosr as if the powers that be wanted to split up these poor, but strong communities. It definatly didnt benefit the communities themselvers..
So sad to see again. That is why I dont return to Liverpool now. Brought up in Tulloch Street just off West Derby Road opposite Ogdens Factory in the 40s and 50s.
Summer Seat, Richmond Row. Scottie Road. Boundary Street. Sir Thomas White Garden's. Netherfield Road. Goodison Road. Gerrard Gardens. Some of these pictures were taken by Dick Shields before 1975. I worked with him and was a teenager. I thought he was nuts at the time.
I'm 57 now and I worked with him in 1979 when I was just 20. He was about 50 then so if he is still alive he will be about 87. We both fixed tellys for Granada. Our base was on Netley Street and we covered Liverppol 1 through 5.
Thomas Jones Sounds like it might be someone else although the age would be about right. This lad ran to be a Liverpool councilor if my memory serves me right. Im the same age as yourself.
My Nan Mrs Harris lived in Gerard Gardens & later in a flat on Richmond Row, I think the council sold the 3 story flats off but they're still there today. Not far from the old Clock Pub & "The Box House" around the corner on St. Annes St. Where a bearded man (can't remember his name) would play the "squeeze box" as the older drinkers in there would call it.
I'm looking for any photographs of Rockingham Street, a lot of my family lived down that street. I understand it was knocked down in the 60's? off Commercial Road, Kirkdale. I would love to see the street. I only have one photo of my grandparents outside the house.
No photos I'm afraid but my sister had a friend who lived on Rockingham Street in the 50s/60s called Ann Taft. We lived in Latham Street and for a year (before we were rehoused) I was schooled in Daisy Street (1968). Happy trails, Meighan
Yes that's correct. The houses were very poorly built by owners of factory's to house the massive influx of workers. Instead of cement they used mud mixed with sand and after years they were leaning and falling down, they had no sanitation, no bathroom, some were lucky to have cold running water but no hot water and they were riddled with bugs, cockroaches and rats. They were also built with no damp coarse so suffered terribly with severe rising damp.
Our great city now looks magnificent with tons of new buildings. New houses, art galleries, museums, shops etc. Visitors come from all over the world to spend their hard earned money here. Anyone can come to Liverpool and expect a warm welcome.
liverpool is full of 'students who don't contribute one penny to the city in council tax, the university has gradually taken over the liverpool 7 area and destroyed it beyond recognition, with no family homes remaining, every empty space was converted into student accomodation including any pub that became vacant up went student flats, they drove the families out when really the university should have been built outside the city and the families left IN the city ,,but the everyday person is not listened to !!
@@mullinjk so true Kevin. Please give us a follow on our Twitter page @TeamTabley we are still fighting the decimation of our community by self-serving greedy, inconsiderate developers.
To be quite honest these old houses were in a terrible state and were slums. Who would really wish to live in a house which was dark and cramped inside with no bathroom and a toilet in the yard? The city planners should have replaced these with decent low density housing instead of those monstrous huge tower blocks.
Oh yeah. History is great, as long as you're not living in it of course. Overcrowding, freezing cold, damp, outside toilets, tin baths, coal fire in only one room, cockroaches, no NHS, a couple of world wars thrown in. A veritable paradise. If only we could get those days back. The fact is people didn't wake up one day and discover they were living in a slum. Families had existed, because it wasn't living in these slums for years as they got progressively worse. I'm old enough to remember living in them and I don't miss them one bit.
Why is there so many beautifull buildings left abandoned? Is it due to new council estates and high rise blocks or is this war damage? Looks like whole community's wiped out
+gcfcos Are they calling it "gentrification"? My hometown, San Francisco, is going through the same thing. Hi-tech companies and workers have caused the rents to skyrocket. It's a shame. I grew up there in the 1950s and 1960s. I couldn't afford to live there again unless I manage to win the lottery.
+TheShizue777 the same is happening in London, a lot of the areas now where houses Are selling for millions of pounds used to be areas you couldn't pay people to live in
gcfcos It is the same all over, I guess. I had a dear friend who lived on Garrick Street (Liverpool 7) He's long gone. But, just to relive some past memories, I would Google Map the place and look at the house from time to time. For a few years after he passed, the house was occupied and then the row of houses appeared with stickers saying call such-and-such a number. The streets were bare -- no cars. I thought they were going to bulldoze the street and put up luxury flats or leave empty lots. What they did I found out was start to sell the terraced houses there for one Pound and let the new owners upgrade the house. Pretty sneaky. People, like my old friend (who only rented a room) were left begging. Immediate gentrification with property values going through the roof. It is the same all over. Everybody is out for a buck -- or a Pound -- or a Euro.
why when I am sure most of the buildings could have been renovated three story building destroyed when towns like Crewe only had two up two down its a disgrace by the planners destroying community's
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Have fond memories of the 1950 docklands, where I was born, lots of good people
but by the time I was 10, I knew education was the only way I could create a good
life for myself. Eventually got my degree and jumped on the next plane to Australia,
pure heaven, beautiful life. Yes, some nostalgia remains in this old man but it
doesn't hide the facts of those times. Nothing stands still.
How heartwarming, yet heartbreaking at the same time. They built houses with character back then and they lasted. Now they build houses that look like boxes and they're falling apart within 40 years of construction. Progress my a*** lol
Couldn't agree more. Falling apart within FIFTEEN years of construction
Spot on lad
amazing photographs, such nostalgia and sadness. I love Liverpool.
I think there is a natural human sway towards nostalgia as it often links a person in with their formative memories from childhood into early adulthood. There is rarely simply good & bad as polar opposites. Yes neighbourhoods were more 'neighbourly' but let's not forget that a lot of what got pulled down in Liverpool (and lots of other cities) in the 60's was pretty awful slum conditions & buildings still damaged from the war. This is not to say what came after was necessarily better or worse, just different. Life is a constant process of change, as is our world, try not to cling too much to what has gone. If you feel the neighbourhood spirit has gone or been lost, then put energy into re-building it, not being melancholic about the loss of it.
That spot the photo was taken of the main square in Sir Thomas White gardens was the site of the caretakers office. The caretaker at the time around 1967-68 was a man named Johnny Prendergast. Johnny was a honest and nice man who had a limb and walked with difficulty, he acquired the injury to his leg in North Africa in WW11. I can recall Johnny was always willing to help anyone in a difficult situation. He was a man of true ethics.
My family lived in Druid St near Heyworth St. My two older brothers knocked around with a Tommy Prendergast. I wonder if Tommy and John were related. I do know Tommy was related to a mate of mine named Tony Miello. Tony and I worked together in the fruit mkt. And we had some great laughs together.
My grandparents were the last people to run The Justice (0.31 seconds into the video) in the early 70's. Some of my first memories were there. They were bankrupted due to a strike, had to leave and the pub ended. It sat serenely like a ship on the sea, wasteland all around us as everything else had been demolished and cleared.
Lovely music to good old times of Liverpool so sad.
Mozart piano concerto 21 (also used in film “Elvira Madigan”)
I was born in Greta street L8 in 1952. We were one of the poorest families on the street I was very selfconscious of it. I hated living there as a teenager i would lie in bed a night imagining how lovely it must be to live in a house you weren’t embarrassed about.
Saying that, it doesn’t stop me looking back and feeling nostalgic for all my family who are now no longer here.
Mick Williams
True Mick, some poorer than others...I only had to step inside my friends homes to see the difference. It’s weird how nostalgic we become the older we get especially as I couldn’t wait to escape that life.
It's funny isn't it, my family were also one of the poorer families in a very poor area (we lived in Arthur Street off Rice Lane Liverpool 9) and at the time I couldn't wait to get away, now I would give anything to go back and stay there. We had nothing but it seemed a simpler world and one i understood...feel a bit lost in today's world to be honest.
David Carey
I know what you mean about feeling lost. For me I think it’s because I was the youngest of seven children and always referred to as ‘ the baby ‘ even as I got older. Now I’m the only one left, feeling like an abandoned baby in some ways. I try not to dwell on it too much because it does me no good. I’m very fortunate in that I have a great husband and a lovely home but so miss having the ups and downs of brothers and sisters.
@@barbarella9827 I was the youngest of five so also the baby. Sorry you have lost your siblings.
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Its so sad to see my past childhood I loved watching it music made me cry
Such a shame they destroyed those beautiful buildings...
my grandma used to live at 62 hawkins street most of her life.i loved visiting liverpool from the states.newsham park,and boaler street school,and church street.and of couse anfield.were some places i remember.cheers mate go lfc.
I love the pool wouldn't live anywhere else but looking at the pics brings sadness the streets played on and houses lived in by people no longer exist just memories left of what we done and did together because now it's all gone
I was born in Liverpool (Bootle - walton end) and I lived there until around 1956. My grandfather (who brought me up) was a Dock Gateman. I now live in Australia and having viewed these scenes and the scenes of new Liverpool central - I hardly recognised anything! Mainly St George's Hall, The Lime street Hotel, Empire theatre and the buildings surrounding the Library etc. were the ones I recognised, The tunnel entrance has altered so much too. Still reeling from the shock of the change like Scotland Road, now a dual driveway with trees! Now there are no streets off it like there used to be - all gone. I haven't returned to Liverpool since I left so would like to see it now.
Hi Beverly, do you have any stories to pass on from your Grandad’s time as a Gateman? Sending love from Liverpool ♥️
@@mybeautifulview Really all I can remember is that his main dock was Langton Dock, then he also was sent to Brocklebank, Huskisson Hornby and occasionally Gladstone. His duties were checking vehicles in/out. He used to cycle in all weathers and all shifts (day and night) to and fro to work until his retirement. We lived away from the docks on the Walton border (but just in Bootle). I can just remember as a small child seeing Bryant & May go on fire (I think a bomb hit it) and we all watched from our bedroom window. Hartley's Jam went too. I think a big mistake was taking down the overhead railway, I had a few rides on that and you could see over the dock walls from it.
@@beverly7710 thanks for sharing Beverly, I love this! I could picture everything you just portrayed. I definitely agree with you about the Overhead... imagine what an incredible asset and attraction that would be now x
The street with the lone motorbike and sidecar is Desmond Street..That was my dad's bike.A BSA M21I think it was.
i feel so sad when i watch old vids of liverpool because it only shows you the destruction brought on by the planners,i remember just how full of life all those nieghbourhoods where before there destruction of those communities...i WAS there when they bulldozed it to the ground and i witnessed people crying there eyes out,sure the houses were slums but the people in those communities were the friendliest welcoming people i have ever known.good luck with your project...tony flanagan
was more of a city then that it is now, council decisions to knock down these biuldings have sent us backwards
This destruction of communities has happened in so many places in the name of progress. Peoples' lives are shattered by the experience...friends moved away and lost possibly for ever. Granted, houses need improvement and modernising, but it's been proved time and again that it's cheaper to renovate the old places than pull them down and rebuild. You can bet your bottom dollar that none of the city's planners lived in these places.
Left Liverpool in the 1980s and was astonished to see the dock rd from town toward seaforth still like this when there on business 2 yrs ago. Can't believe a developer hasn't bought the entire area dropping down from Everton brow the view over the mersey and out to the Irish sea is immense.
Bar selected historical buildings the entire 60s and 70s shite could be leveled and a top class village environment constructed linking to the already expanded city centre 10 mins walk away.
Massive opportunity there. I bet the council would pay to take it off their hands.
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Heartbreaking to see what they've done to that fine city, Historic Canning Street demolished to make way for Liverpool 1.
Canning Street is still there, by the Cathedral.
The same thing happened Nation wide.The stupid planners of the 60`s have a lot to answer for.
I'm quite surprised that Great Britain was hit by the same "demolition-mania" as Czechoslovakia in the 1960s and the 1970s. They destroyed community for impersonal towerblocks...so sad, as here in Prague :(
@@kennethdrewary1094 they mean Canning Place x
@@mybeautifulview you must be a local, I'm up the road in Formby, lol
They upped and moved whole communities to other areas. Everyone we knew gone. Great Homer street was our home and my playground. They gave no thought to the people involved. Such a huge and very painful memory.
Just to think that they tore down some of the most beautiful buildings and in their place put up crime factories in the skies in their place. Nothing short of vandalism and short sightedness.
As John Coding says--below, these houses were in a terrible state, beyond improvement , and not fit for human habitation. It is easy for some, to view these scenes with a sense of nostalgia. what they are missing, is the commeradery and sense of community , i.e, we were all in it together. What should have been done--as mentioned below, is that these streets perhaps, could have kept their shape and structure, but with new home designs with modern materials and facilities. I'm no planner or civil engineer, but had they have been able to build the new, as the old was cleared away, continuity and and sense of belonging would have been preserved, instead of the terrible shock of being uprooted and dumped in isolation, miles away. This happened in ALL major cities, I lived in Birmingham and Bristol throughout the 60's--70's, so witnessed it first hand. It must not be forgotten though, that Britain was virtually bankrupt after the war, many thousands of homes destroyed by war, before the slums were tackled. People were living in old Train carriages, buses, and abandoned military camps, with no water or power. Desperate times indeed.
@tonyflanagan. It happened all over the country. Where the houses could have been restored and improved they just destroyed them, and the communities with them.
It has happened under Blair and Brown, I understand that in some towns perfectly good houses have been pulled down and not a brick has been laid to replace them over the last 10 to 12 years.
Some of those terraced houses would go for £1,000,000 if they where in St Albans Herts.
wiped out of Living memory
just like us all dust to dust one day
My mum and dad came here after ww2. shortly after it was Canada here we come. I'll always thank them for that.
I was a Granada TV repairman in Liverpool 1 to 5 and each day I went into 10 houses or so. Netherfield Rd. Scotland road. Breck road. Tommy White and Gerard gardens were daily calls. The people were fantastic. I grew up in Speke. I don't know why they didn't knock down and rebuild in the same spot. They destroyed the communities. First pic is of Goodison Road.
Well said Thomas ,North Liverpool folk and yourself are decent people Tommy white Gardens were good people like yourself!
My Nan, Mrs Harris lived in Gerard Gardens. She often spoke of people living there back in the day.
Many of those streets could have been kept with the houses modernized instead of being destroyed. Planners thought they were gods instead of serving the people, so they destroyed communities quite happily.
What do you mean "thought they were gods" they do think they are gods, recreators of history
Well said
2.18 shows the end of Shaw St. where it meets Brunswick Rd. The white building on the left with the columns still exists.
I often wonder if planners so hated old houses they were determined to sweep everything away rather demolishing the bad and renovating some of the better properties.
My first housexwas a small terraced house in East Ham London.
In terraced street like in film built 1908..
Now most in area are reroofed renovated and extended and sell for 500,000 pounds and are. Very sought after as family homes.
It’s easy to be nostalgic but some of those buildings were falling down. Poor quality shattered
brick, insufficient foundations, rot, subsidence, damp, poor build quality.
Some time ago a comment was made about Liverpool 1 but that was built on an area that had been devastated in the blitz.
Unfortunately some buildings simply crumbled away because the owners were absent. The council was unable to do anything about them at one time. I am pleased these photos exist. It is such a historic record.
All those beautiful buildings.Left to rot and then demolished.
My mom was born in Portland St, in 1905, and I managed to obtain a photocopy of it from Liverpool History Dept. They had been taken in the mid 30's, but They had a policy of photographing streets before they demolished them, so they told me ( moms was demolished just before my enquiry in 1972. So I'm surprised that you are unable to obtain further pictures.
I was born and raised in stonewall st, of everton terrace. Lovely memories, poor but fine family and community. Many of the streets needed pulling down but many fine buildings could have been restored and the community kept together. We were moved to Croxteth.... thanks.
I was born and raised in Everton loved my upbringing playing among the slums and tenements of the area! we got offered Tower hill etc but my mam wanted to stay in the city centre area and I cant blame her! we moved to a maisonette block on Great homer street and it was ok! better than going miles out the city
and I'm going back to the early 70s.........I don't want no trolls, this is fact, its what I remember..... my infant , junior and senior school have all been demolished now, as has the place I was born, all I have is memories.... sandy in the pier head shouting echoooo, jumping on the 12c to get home..... tuebrook, derby village then that horrible council overspill estate, we were forced to go to in 71. I was 5.... cantril farm as it was then called with a 48% unemployment rate... and thatcher .....how I ever survived... Liverpool will always be close to my heart, I live the humour, the history and the people....
Glasgow's cultural development is similar to Glasgow's. Old buildings gone both affected by the potato famine in Ireland a lot of people also immigrated to America and elsewhere. Hard working people.
god..... I remember gt homer st.... the double diamond pub on the edge of everton brow, watching everton bring the cup home, then liverpool, sitting on the tsb bank windowsill..... on Westminster road near the Flemings shop..... omg....
it is like Toronto
@@aaet9049 I used to work greatie with me dad, had to pack it in once they moved it onto that other site. Just wasn't the same.
Grafton street..warwick gardens park rd..possibly Windsor street..mill street I saw the flat iron pub (mill st) Sefton street well the pub at least thinking it used to be blue n white as in half n half and it had around 6/7 stairs to climb to get in if memory serves I believe Beaumont street the old flats that was torn down and the ground floor was made into houses..
I grew up in Caryl Gardens Sheila, my family are all around park rd, Admiral st and other parts of the Dingle to this very day. Iv`e lived in Aigburth since 1980. Happy days as a kid, with not a care in the world.
Some very thought provoking memories from this video, it is a pity there where no street names to enhance its enjoyment.
i was born in desmond street in 1964 i was born in one of the houses the motor bike and side car is out side the house i was born in it belonged to my late farther
Agreed with those who, with hindsight, see totally unnecessary destruction of communities (who had no say whatsoever). I've seen 2 up 2 down terraces in Dublin, London, Cheshire, Lancashire reaching over £250,000. Totally restored, of course. Why couldn't those thousands of terraced houses have been completely modernised instead of being demolished and replaced?. Why were some areas left alone to be gathered up by Housing Associations?.
at 3:10 I think shows Belgrave Terrace looking to Aubrey Street. What appears to be a wall running across the end of the street is in fact the retaining wall of the reservoir in Aubrey Street.
Harold Wilson began the destruction of old Liverpool and built high rise flats to replace the old terrace housing.
The large high view houses @ 3.34 were located at the lower end of Everton Valley I passed each morning on the 544 bus to work in the city centre in the mid 60s. Like others in Sackville Street and Shaw Street were once home to Liverpool's professional workers in Victorian times through to the 50s.
same for Birkenhead; they knocked down a lot of heritage and community areas
The city was full of life in the 50's and 60's because there was literally more life there, the population has dropped dramatic, maybe by a 1/3 since the 1950s as the work disappeared, if you look at pictures of the dock road from 50-60 years ago, it's mental how much is going on, as the docks are the heart of the city, since the docks only have a fraction of the work they used to have, the heart is in bad shape.
Sad so sad but it makes you think! Some say we had nothing but we had a lot, and its still all in are hearts
wow it took me back to when I was young and some of these building was there 1974 just saying peace from spain
4:17 Warwick House is still there all modernized and turned into apartments. St James Place L8.
Liverpool was full of derelict houses even into the seventies late seventies it's nostalgic but in reality it was not fit for purpose
At 1.14 Toxteth Street flats. Lived in them 1953 to 1955
i'm in floods here
Destroy History , no mud slides here
Heartbreaking 😢
Morely street Kirkdale, does anyone remember the old paddy's market in the early to mid sixties, it was a wonderland for me as a kid then.
I think we feel nostalgic because we can't ever return and a part of ourselves is left behind there.
And @ 4.29 Houses either side of Alexander Pope square on Walton Lane, facing Stanley Park.
The stood up to the late 60s, and if had been located in London would have been modernised
My dad was born in Hopwood street in 1911 he went back to visit there in later life but had been pulled down still have one uncle and cousins I Liverpool there next door neighbours I believe we're the O'sheas
Dave Mckenna
2:54 is Everton Terrace with the Police Station top left! We lived at 60 Eastbourne Street just around the corner! Big house with even bigger rats! Margret St Baths on a Saturday, Wash house on Thursday and Paddys market for new clothes. Yep those were the Halycon days! I often remember my upbringing and life then, it keeps me grounded in my past. I wouldn't change any of it one iota as it made and shoped me into who I am but I certainly wouldn't want to experience it again!
A great video.
Are any of these pictures Vesuvius Street? I believe one might be but I’m not sure which one.
hi im lookiing for a documentary that was shown on the bbc in the run up to capital of culture year. the film was made in the early 80s{ i think} but followed a member of the band liverpool fishermen around his favourite dock road boozers. any help would be greatly appreciated. finding this piece has bugged me for some time now . cheers
I lived in number 85 priory street (Off Hayworth street) December 65 when I was born until late 69 or early 70 when we were moved out to netherley. where number 87 should have been was a bomb site and a debris for us to have adventures on. There were back alleys and a shop called "wheelers" or possibly wheelans or something just around the corner. the pic at time 18 seconds could easily be priory street or sadly one of dozens of others in that area?
Some of those houses were unfit for human habitation. Prefabs were still very good housing. Unfortunately what they were replaced with were often just as bad. For example mainsonettes. T'he blocks of flats were torn down later. Nowhere to dry your clothes led to mould in rooms. No way for furniture to be taken into rooms e.g. wardrobes in bedrooms. The designers (no they were not architects) admitted they had not thought of these things.
Anyone remember the Obrien family from Tagus Street in the 40s 50s and 60s? Does anyone know if Tagus street appears in the clip? :)
@tonyflanagan
when they knocked the slum dwellings down & moved ppl into Gerard Gardens the old women cried they were so used to being so close to their neighbours & didn't want the change...when eventually ppl were moved out of the Bully & GG many ppl didn't want to leave either as they had such a close community between them....
yes, its almosr as if the powers that be wanted to split up these poor, but strong communities. It definatly didnt benefit the communities themselvers..
Were the bulk of pics taken in same era? If so that is a lot of poverty?
Have you anything of braemar street kirkdale liverpool 1960s
So sad to see again. That is why I dont return to Liverpool now. Brought up in Tulloch Street just off West Derby Road opposite Ogdens Factory in the 40s and 50s.
Very sad.
3:26 Soho street
Summer Seat, Richmond Row. Scottie Road. Boundary Street. Sir Thomas White Garden's. Netherfield Road. Goodison Road. Gerrard Gardens. Some of these pictures were taken by Dick Shields before 1975. I worked with him and was a teenager. I thought he was nuts at the time.
There was a lad named Dick Shields who lived on our block in caryle gardens down the south end, wonder if its the same lad?
I'm 57 now and I worked with him in 1979 when I was just 20. He was about 50 then so if he is still alive he will be about 87. We both fixed tellys for Granada. Our base was on Netley Street and we covered Liverppol 1 through 5.
Thomas Jones Sounds like it might be someone else although the age would be about right. This lad ran to be a Liverpool councilor if my memory serves me right. Im the same age as yourself.
My Nan Mrs Harris lived in Gerard Gardens & later in a flat on Richmond Row, I think the council sold the 3 story flats off but they're still there today. Not far from the old Clock Pub & "The Box House" around the corner on St. Annes St. Where a bearded man (can't remember his name) would play the "squeeze box" as the older drinkers in there would call it.
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A lot of great housing stock that just needing renovating. Would never happen today with private sector money
Again a nice bit of work.
hey Snellyboy,are you Tony Snell ,by any chance?,you must of gone through Tommy Whites a few times if you are.
I'm looking for any photographs of Rockingham Street, a lot of my family lived down that street. I understand it was knocked down in the 60's? off Commercial Road, Kirkdale. I would love to see the street. I only have one photo of my grandparents outside the house.
No photos I'm afraid but my sister had a friend who lived on Rockingham Street in the 50s/60s called Ann Taft. We lived in Latham Street and for a year (before we were rehoused) I was schooled in Daisy Street (1968).
Happy trails, Meighan
Looked a bit like Tommy White Gardens then.
First one is Everton's ground on the right
The first pic is Goodison park
Lambeth road..(kirkdale) sign
McVey Demolition. (And Daughter)
hey ! i am an Indian so help me out her. Are these the slum districts that came down?
Yes that's correct. The houses were very poorly built by owners of factory's to house the massive influx of workers. Instead of cement they used mud mixed with sand and after years they were leaning and falling down, they had no sanitation, no bathroom, some were lucky to have cold running water but no hot water and they were riddled with bugs, cockroaches and rats. They were also built with no damp coarse so suffered terribly with severe rising damp.
+gcfcos How does Liverpool look nowadays?
Our great city now looks magnificent with tons of new buildings. New houses, art galleries, museums, shops etc. Visitors come from all over the world to spend their hard earned money here. Anyone can come to Liverpool and expect a warm welcome.
liverpool is full of 'students who don't contribute one penny to the city in council tax, the university has gradually taken over the liverpool 7 area and destroyed it beyond recognition, with no family homes remaining, every empty space was converted into student accomodation including any pub that became vacant up went student flats, they drove the families out when really the university should have been built outside the city and the families left IN the city ,,but the everyday person is not listened to !!
@@mullinjk so true Kevin. Please give us a follow on our Twitter page @TeamTabley we are still fighting the decimation of our community by self-serving greedy, inconsiderate developers.
To be quite honest these old houses were in a terrible state and were slums. Who would really wish to live in a house which was dark and cramped inside with no bathroom and a toilet in the yard? The city planners should have replaced these with decent low density housing instead of those monstrous huge tower blocks.
Oh yeah. History is great, as long as you're not living in it of course. Overcrowding, freezing cold, damp, outside toilets, tin baths, coal fire in only one room, cockroaches, no NHS, a couple of world wars thrown in. A veritable paradise. If only we could get those days back.
The fact is people didn't wake up one day and discover they were living in a slum. Families had existed, because it wasn't living in these slums for years as they got progressively worse. I'm old enough to remember living in them and I don't miss them one bit.
Why is there so many beautifull buildings left abandoned? Is it due to new council estates and high rise blocks or is this war damage? Looks like whole community's wiped out
+gcfcos Are they calling it "gentrification"? My hometown, San Francisco, is going through the same thing. Hi-tech companies and workers have caused the rents to skyrocket. It's a shame. I grew up there in the 1950s and 1960s. I couldn't afford to live there again unless I manage to win the lottery.
+TheShizue777 the same is happening in London, a lot of the areas now where houses Are selling for millions of pounds used to be areas you couldn't pay people to live in
gcfcos It is the same all over, I guess.
I had a dear friend who lived on Garrick Street (Liverpool 7) He's long gone. But, just to relive some past memories, I would Google Map the place and look at the house from time to time. For a few years after he passed, the house was occupied and then the row of houses appeared with stickers saying call such-and-such a number. The streets were bare -- no cars.
I thought they were going to bulldoze the street and put up luxury flats or leave empty lots.
What they did I found out was start to sell the terraced houses there for one Pound and let the new owners upgrade the house. Pretty sneaky.
People, like my old friend (who only rented a room) were left begging. Immediate gentrification with property values going through the roof.
It is the same all over. Everybody is out for a buck -- or a Pound -- or a Euro.
All is change.
Scotland Rd Rotunda Scofields lemon factory horse and carts Dalrymple St in the War all Dockers
my name is jackie my maden name was cave
why when I am sure most of the buildings could have been renovated three story building destroyed when towns like Crewe only had two up two down its a disgrace by the planners destroying community's
"It looks no different from west yorkshire, and dozens of other towns/cities."
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Another reset into modern banality.
@tonyflanagan
will do ta Tony :)