All the debates on here prove one thing - Brett Kenny is underrated in the wider rugby league community. Wally is an immortal. Kenny, despite the fact that every player who played with him and against him says he is one of the greatest ever, hardly gets talked about. One of the problems I think, is that Qld always talk up the Qld way, and bring in the old guys, and look all the way back to Arthur Beetson, while NSW always look forward and if they look back, it's only to the Phil Gould years or maybe Turvey Mortimer kissing the ground. We need to do more to promote the great players of NSW that people don't talk about - O' Connor, Jack, Tim Brasher etc. Brett Kenny is one of the greatest players of all time and yet you have to trawl through youtube to find that out.
I agree. The Parra sides of the 80s are largely forgotten but could match it with any team of any era thanks to blokes like Bert,Sterlo,Cronin,Ella,Price,Edge,etc.
While a rate. Wally Lewis the greatest origin player I've ever seen I rate brett Kenny the Greatest big match player on every level the best in 50 years of watching RL. He's record speaks for itself. God bless you Brett Kenny 🙏💪✝️
My mother was running Burleigh bears juniors and gold coast juniors for a couple for decades and she worked at Miami High school, she managed to get Wally to come to our sports awards night and introduced me and we had a small chat...he was amazing..i was awestruck..i think it was 85/6...low and behold when i was in year 11, i played with his younger brother Heath, a very good player in his own right, in winning the state schoolboys touch footy in 87 at Toowong...all that inspired me to go on and represent my state etc many times...thank you Heath and Wally....not to mention origin ignited people in ALL sports when it came to representing qld....
Miami High field strong teams in sports. I've always wondered what it would be like to attend that school. Probably the glamour school on the Gold Coast!
@@alanchong7513 during those times we were pretty good at sports, not so much academically though, i wouldnt call it a glamour school, overall pretty good school with some pretty good teachers too, old days with no wokism..so much fun
@@freedomofchoicelover3734 I've always wondered what the girls at Miami High would be like?? They may have all clamoured to win a beach girl competition as Surfers Paradise is close by. It's sort of a ticket to the big time in terms of helping them get a start in the entertainment world. Every girl at Miami High was probably a stunner, right? Haha
These two are the best five-eigths or stand-offs I have ever seen play the game.Honourable mentions to Gary Schofield of Great Britain and Olsen Filipaina of New Zealand.
Brett Kenny any day over Wally. Over the last 15 years all that footage from the '80's has slowly been put up on TH-cam ( thanks to guys like NZ rugby here) and you can make your decisions yourself after watching the games involving these two greats, Wally was a big fish in a small pond in Brisbane and his reputation was greater than his game imho. Kenny highlights are spectacular and all over the tube, Wallys not so much.
@@chris123-r7c wally got found out straight away when the broncos got admitted in 88 , in 4 years playing week in week out a team loaded with rep players couldn’t cut it. Wally would turn up for origin but wow, 3 games a year where you play your best is rubbish
@@docgonzales 😂😂😂😂. That’s the stupidest comparison I’ve ever read. Brisbane came 7th that year. Travel got them. If Syd teams had to do that much travel they’d be mentally tired aswell.
@@chris123-r7c Canberra had no problem around this time you numpty. I’d rather 1 1/2 hrs in a plane than 4 hrs on a bus any day. You ain’t as smart as you think you are
I was sitting behind Brett Kenny at Wyong Courthouse today when I saw him I tripped out he was there for Assaulting someone I’m a Queenslander but I have a lot of respect for him as a player he shat all over Wally Lewis
2 of the existing League Immortals Wally Lewis and Mal Meninga - Kenny replaced each of them and took both their Australian spots - Kenny kept Wally out of five eighth and Meninga out of the centres in 1986 - proof that Kenny is better than both of them !!
Mate your 100 percent correct. He most certainly is better than both. I would beleive most would agree. Don't understand how he's not. Another I think also Steve Rogers.
Well if that’s proof that he’s better than both what do we do with the fact that Wally played 35 international games for Australia, 32 at 5/8 and not one out of position after 1982 or 28 consecutive tests at 5/8, compared to Bret Kenny playing a miserly 17 games for Australia just 5 of which he was a 5/8??? Mal played 47 games for Australia and was the centre in 41 of them. Sounds to me like Brett Kenny wasn’t on either of their levels was he.
@@troystaunton254 mate . I'll say again watch the games they played against each other. Who came out on top. Kenny. Ask Lewis. He will tell you he's the best footballer he ever played against. Case closed.
Brett Kenny is a great player..but he's a centre compared to Wally. It's not a contest. Wally could control the speed of the game with his theatre and kicking just to begin with. Wally had so many skills to use. Kenny was a great athlete and was full of natural skills but he would have been on the bench for Queensland in the 80s when Mal and Gene were the centres✌
All this hyp over Brett Kenny better than Lewis what planet are you come from clear NSW and Kiwi bais between 83-85 Lewis was far better then Kenny may of had it over in a handful of Games,it was Michael O'Connor that made Brett Kenny look better in game 1 of 85 & 87 and 86 on Origin,but come game 2&3 85 and game 2 87 to game 3 89 no one has ever past that record Wally was simply better over all and Langer made sterling and Kenny look like an old man.
The game 1 of 85 and 87 you are referring to...do you mean the tries O’Connor scored that Kenny directly set up in both of those games? O’Connor was recently on a podcast and said that he learnt early in origin that if he followed Brett Kenny around he would score tries so that’s what he did. O’Connor also said that he has no doubt in his mind that he thinks Brett Kenny should be an immortal. In game2 of 85, Kenny scored the match- sealing try to secure the series for NSW (standing up Wally to do so). In 86, Kenny and Sterling were dominant and NSW won the series 3-0. Kenny’s record at State of Origin level when directly opposing Lewis at 5/8 was 8 wins, 4 losses. Not the be all and end all stat, however it is surely indicative of the impact Kenny had in that period. That is not me arguing anything about Kenny being better than Lewis, however I’m pointing out some facts in relation to what you said. Both great players and Lewis’ record at Origin level is second to none. However, Kenny too was a marvel and Wally says it himself.
Kenny was the difference between NSW & QLD in the 85 & 86 origin series. He won the series for the blues. Watch the try he set up for O'Connor in origin 2 in 1986 - I don't want to Knock Wally Lewis, but there is no way Lewis could have set up that try, the way Kenny did.
how is brett kenny not a immortal? ONE OF THE GREATS EVER.
Sterlo was better, and sterlo and Alfie should be immortals.
It was Wally and BK back then they were just amazing to watch. Outstanding players.
@@Yocpucup SPOT. FUCKING. ON.
@@troystaunton254 nah, As good as Sterlo was, he couldnt tackle. Kenny was the complete player.
@@zeus-ow8li both immortals..Gibson rated sterlo greatest player he ever coached..and he coached many greats
Brett Kenny & Wally Lewis.....simply outstanding, exciting footballers....bring back those years. Great memories!
All the debates on here prove one thing - Brett Kenny is underrated in the wider rugby league community. Wally is an immortal. Kenny, despite the fact that every player who played with him and against him says he is one of the greatest ever, hardly gets talked about.
One of the problems I think, is that Qld always talk up the Qld way, and bring in the old guys, and look all the way back to Arthur Beetson, while NSW always look forward and if they look back, it's only to the Phil Gould years or maybe Turvey Mortimer kissing the ground. We need to do more to promote the great players of NSW that people don't talk about - O' Connor, Jack, Tim Brasher etc. Brett Kenny is one of the greatest players of all time and yet you have to trawl through youtube to find that out.
I agree. The Parra sides of the 80s are largely forgotten but could match it with any team of any era thanks to blokes like Bert,Sterlo,Cronin,Ella,Price,Edge,etc.
Bert is the best he should be an immortal
Should have been a immortal long time ago
While a rate. Wally Lewis the greatest origin player I've ever seen I rate brett Kenny the Greatest big match player on every level the best in 50 years of watching RL. He's record speaks for itself. God bless you Brett Kenny 🙏💪✝️
My mother was running Burleigh bears juniors and gold coast juniors for a couple for decades and she worked at Miami High school, she managed to get Wally to come to our sports awards night and introduced me and we had a small chat...he was amazing..i was awestruck..i think it was 85/6...low and behold when i was in year 11, i played with his younger brother Heath, a very good player in his own right, in winning the state schoolboys touch footy in 87 at Toowong...all that inspired me to go on and represent my state etc many times...thank you Heath and Wally....not to mention origin ignited people in ALL sports when it came to representing qld....
Miami High field strong teams in sports. I've always wondered what it would be like to attend that school. Probably the glamour school on the Gold Coast!
@@alanchong7513 during those times we were pretty good at sports, not so much academically though, i wouldnt call it a glamour school, overall pretty good school with some pretty good teachers too, old days with no wokism..so much fun
@@freedomofchoicelover3734 I've always wondered what the girls at Miami High would be like?? They may have all clamoured to win a beach girl competition as Surfers Paradise is close by. It's sort of a ticket to the big time in terms of helping them get a start in the entertainment world. Every girl at Miami High was probably a stunner, right? Haha
These two are the best five-eigths or stand-offs I have ever seen play the game.Honourable mentions to Gary Schofield of Great Britain and Olsen Filipaina of New Zealand.
Brett and Wally great players
2 Aussie greats,loved watching them play for their respective club and state sides and they were awesome playing for their country
I see Brett Kenny the best 58
He is the reason I wanted to play Only five eight that could take the king on Wally Lewis Love both of them
Two great players, but more importantly both humble. I love Rugby League.
Stirling's timing of a pass was immaculate.
Kenny should have been a immortal a long tine ago
Brett Kenny any day over Wally. Over the last 15 years all that footage from the '80's has slowly been put up on TH-cam ( thanks to guys like NZ rugby here) and you can make your decisions yourself after watching the games involving these two greats, Wally was a big fish in a small pond in Brisbane and his reputation was greater than his game imho. Kenny highlights are spectacular and all over the tube, Wallys not so much.
@@seanbuchanan5402 Kenny easily over the King..relax
You have it backwards. Lewis over Kenny all day everyday
@@chris123-r7c wally got found out straight away when the broncos got admitted in 88 , in 4 years playing week in week out a team loaded with rep players couldn’t cut it. Wally would turn up for origin but wow, 3 games a year where you play your best is rubbish
@@docgonzales 😂😂😂😂. That’s the stupidest comparison I’ve ever read. Brisbane came 7th that year. Travel got them. If Syd teams had to do that much travel they’d be mentally tired aswell.
@@chris123-r7c Canberra had no problem around this time you numpty. I’d rather 1 1/2 hrs in a plane than 4 hrs on a bus any day. You ain’t as smart as you think you are
Bert kenny better then wally no doubt
brett heaps better then lewis
Hes a handy hpuse painter too..
I was sitting behind Brett Kenny at Wyong Courthouse today when I saw him I tripped out he was there for Assaulting someone I’m a Queenslander but I have a lot of respect for him as a player he shat all over Wally Lewis
Brett has a winning record against King Wally when they opposed each other as Origin five -eigths.
OK. I was unaware of that. Wonder why Wally was named five eighth in the team of the century ahead of him
2 of the existing League Immortals Wally Lewis and Mal Meninga - Kenny replaced each of them and took both their Australian spots - Kenny kept Wally out of five eighth and Meninga out of the centres in 1986 - proof that Kenny is better than both of them !!
Mate your 100 percent correct. He most certainly is better than both. I would beleive most would agree. Don't understand how he's not. Another I think also Steve Rogers.
Well if that’s proof that he’s better than both what do we do with the fact that Wally played 35 international games for Australia, 32 at 5/8 and not one out of position after 1982 or 28 consecutive tests at 5/8, compared to Bret Kenny playing a miserly 17 games for Australia just 5 of which he was a 5/8??? Mal played 47 games for Australia and was the centre in 41 of them. Sounds to me like Brett Kenny wasn’t on either of their levels was he.
@@chrishooper8260 read above comment.
@@troystaunton254 mate . I'll say again watch the games they played against each other. Who came out on top. Kenny. Ask Lewis. He will tell you he's the best footballer he ever played against. Case closed.
Brett Kenny is a great player..but he's a centre compared to Wally. It's not a contest. Wally could control the speed of the game with his theatre and kicking just to begin with. Wally had so many skills to use. Kenny was a great athlete and was full of natural skills but he would have been on the bench for Queensland in the 80s when Mal and Gene were the centres✌
Kenny > Lewis
All this hyp over Brett Kenny better than Lewis what planet are you come from clear NSW and Kiwi bais between 83-85 Lewis was far better then Kenny may of had it over in a handful of Games,it was Michael O'Connor that made Brett Kenny look better in game 1 of 85 & 87 and 86 on Origin,but come game 2&3 85 and game 2 87 to game 3 89 no one has ever past that record Wally was simply better over all and Langer made sterling and Kenny look like an old man.
The game 1 of 85 and 87 you are referring to...do you mean the tries O’Connor scored that Kenny directly set up in both of those games?
O’Connor was recently on a podcast and said that he learnt early in origin that if he followed Brett Kenny around he would score tries so that’s what he did. O’Connor also said that he has no doubt in his mind that he thinks Brett Kenny should be an immortal.
In game2 of 85, Kenny scored the match- sealing try to secure the series for NSW (standing up Wally to do so). In 86, Kenny and Sterling were dominant and NSW won the series 3-0. Kenny’s record at State of Origin level when directly opposing Lewis at 5/8 was 8 wins, 4 losses. Not the be all and end all stat, however it is surely indicative of the impact Kenny had in that period.
That is not me arguing anything about Kenny being better than Lewis, however I’m pointing out some facts in relation to what you said. Both great players and Lewis’ record at Origin level is second to none. However, Kenny too was a marvel and Wally says it himself.
Kenny 8 wins , Wally 4 wins head to head in Origin. Enough said.
@@docgonzales about to say that
Kenny was the difference between NSW & QLD in the 85 & 86 origin series. He won the series for the blues. Watch the try he set up for O'Connor in origin 2 in 1986 - I don't want to Knock Wally Lewis, but there is no way Lewis could have set up that try, the way Kenny did.
Bert miles ahead of Wally