Everyone talks about birth weight and weaning weight when they talk about their bulls. After 50 years of being around cattle and raising Angus and shorthorns. The first thing I look at when selecting a bull is temperament. I had a few crazy bulls and they passed it on to the calves but I switched to a mellow bull then raising cattle became so much more enjoyable. When getting your next bull, buy it from a farmer with easy going cattle. It’s unfortunate about your best calf. That’s a shame and couple grand missing from your bottom line 😢. Keep the faith and you did a good job with the corral and will serve you well for years.
Good episode! Glad you show the realistic side of raising cattle, whether TH-cam likes it or not. We enjoy all your episodes. We have a small herd and have ran into one cow who's calves are always uncooperative. Yet, she throws healthy calves and is a good mama. We are in Salem, MO and happy to see a young man from Missouri is doing so well. God's blessings to you in all you do.
I'm sorry for the loss of your beautiful calf. It may be part of life on a ranch, but that doesn't mean it's easy. Best wishes for a happy holiday season to you and your family.
I don't know much about cattle farming in USA, is it normal to "wait and see" for 3 days when a calf is that injured? Isn't it better for the calf to be seen by a vet the first day or be put out of it's misery immediately?
@FarmandHammer scrap barn roof will work. Nothing that will flap in the wind. Just so they can't see through on at the last cut gate. Also good job and making tall, I have seen cattle jump a 6 ft fence.
Buying older, bred cows is one way to grow a herd. You are going to have to work harder to get a more uniform bunch of calves, but it looks like you are in this for the long haul, so that shouldn't be a problem. Losing a calf in such a stupid way sure does suck. We had a calf get down in a very small depression and couldn't get up. It was the day before we sold them!
It's a very good way to make it in the cattle industry my family buy 200 short soild and broke mouth cows in the fall calf them out over the winter and sell them come spring and sell the calfs in August
How about living in the city, where there's a vet on every corner 😂😂😂 good grief. It might be a week or more before a vet makes it out to a ranch in rural America 🤣🤣🤣if at all
Trailer is dark inside compared to the rest of the corral, dark holes are not where cow/calf wants to go, or even see it as a barrier. See if putting a light in there (ceiling) helps them understand it is where they can/should go.
Charolais are really difficult cattle to handle. We had a bull and a heifer from two shorthorn cows and they never birthed again. You can only breed charlolais to charloais I guess. They tore up the barn, knocked down rail fences and bullied the rest of the herd. A guy bought both of them one fall just to get the blond hides. Sad about the calf. Good video. Pax.
@@icebabysnocain I had a hundred head of Charolais and never had any issues! They were always a gentle breed for us! Young cattle are always testing the boundaries!
All animals fight for breeding purposes they don't normally end up dead when they don't have horns or antlers they usually just get their butt whipped he must have had an internal injury like you said but the bull did not outright kill him
@@johnrose9840 longtime cattle rancher, bulls durning breeding time are dangerous! I have seen many fight to the death! It is an animal’s natural instinct to get rid of the competition! It’s why wild animals will kill the offspring of others! Survival of the fittest!
I'm just going to say this as a tip not saying you're doing a bad thing but to stop injuries when you go to close the gate in any tense situation with livestock stand beside the gate not behind it cause if they push it and you are behind the gate they can seriously hurt you. Keep up the good work!
On another note your a beeter welder then you think poor welds would have busted when them calf's put all that pressure on the sucker rod in the panel in that same spot . Those pens are holding up nicely you built.
@@FarmandHammer Looking forward to seeing videos showing your future plans come into play, and making it much more effortless and safer when loading out from your catch pen. Having a catch pen that is strong and durable that is also portable, is quite the accomplishment.
Nice video, I farm in Devon UK. It may help with your loading if you watch a few videos from Temple Grandin on how cows see their environment. Her setups at slaughter houses have been adopted world wide.
You don't want to punish an animal for not understanding what you want. Also, the trailer is darker then anything around. Putting a light in there may work way better. Light - dark transitions are difficult for animals, making them less extreme helps with that. Cooperation works way better always then force, and yes that requires observation, patience and knowing how animals think.
@@BakangBigfish a cattle prod could make things worse, creat aggressive cattle, and cause them to overreact and hurt themselves! Floppy Flags work well…
If you are talking about the one with horns, yes she is staying for now. She is a little too friendly for having those big horns but she raised a good calf.
Curious if you've ever worked w/cattle dogs⁉️ I'm sorry about your calf, he was a nice looking one too. Time maybe for that bull to go to Freezer Camp lol...and get a bull w/better attitude🤷♀️. I hope you're having a great Holiday Season🎄✌️🇨🇱🇺🇸🙏
No. I purchased a bunch of old cull cows that were 3rd stage bred. I calved them out and let them raise another calf. But since they were old and needing to retire when I bought them, most of them need to be sold because they can’t handle raising another calf. I hope to replace them with younger stock that will last another 10+ years.
Sometimes I get scared for you with those big bulls you be careful as you know that work is dangerous and you are out there alone most of the time or it appears you’re alone. That is sad about your calf I hate to see that. Keep up the good work Issac.
Thanks for the concern but I do try to be as careful as I can. And yes, I normally work out there alone and the cell service isn’t great so I’d rather be safe than sorry. Even if that means climbing a fence when a calf or cow may just be bluffing. Thanks for watching again!
You have a great pen , chute set up. It’s so hard to work cattle on your own. Some times it’s like herding cats! You’ve got great patience . Sorry about your calf. Such a waste of an important investment. Yep, bulls can so dangerous. Be well.
You should have seen my last corral set up 😂. I was lucky to have been able to load all the cows I did out of that one. I do have some improvements to make on it though. I just had to build these as quick as I could to get the calves weaned.
Aint realy a safe way to handle cattle they get spooked and thats it cattle raising is one of the most dangerious jobs you can do ya gotta be slow and carefull or your gonna get hurt been raising cattle for around 70 years hurt a few times they can get ornery
@@GeneAnderson-j7u it’s was spell check on my phone! Why don’t you mind your own business!! You clearly understood what I meant as did everyone else did!! Sorry you’re not respected and seen as the head of your own home Karen!!!
Normally it will kill them quicker than 3 or 4 days. His front shoulder/leg was pretty clearly broken. Didn’t look like blackleg. I was worried about that on day one though
Half of these were the beefmaster calves. That’s about as crazy as they’ll get hopefully. Eventually when I get some more time and money I’ll get some more pens built.
Loading cattle period is never 100% successful. Especially when they are not familiar with you, the truck, panels or process... You did the best you could with the time and utensils on hand. Just a thought... possible plastic or heavy tarp blocking the cattles eyesight through the panels could help. Honestly... They eventually were loaded... A win in the check box. Do your thing and we will keep viewing. Best wishes. MERRY CHRISTMAS 🤶 🎄 ❤️
Someone else mentioned making the loadout area solid where they can’t see out. Any recommendations on what material to use? Another viewer said used conveyor belt. I don’t really want to weld sheet metal on. But yes, it’s a big improvement from what I had been using. And I didn’t lose any this time while loading so it served its purpose. Still have some improvements to make when I get some more time.
Honestly bro, your the dummy 😂😂😂😂 you just took a bunch of babies bro, everyone is screaming for mom, which I am sure they can still hear each other. They have amazing hearing. You need a flag or a cattle dog
Everyone talks about birth weight and weaning weight when they talk about their bulls. After 50 years of being around cattle and raising Angus and shorthorns. The first thing I look at when selecting a bull is temperament. I had a few crazy bulls and they passed it on to the calves but I switched to a mellow bull then raising cattle became so much more enjoyable. When getting your next bull, buy it from a farmer with easy going cattle. It’s unfortunate about your best calf. That’s a shame and couple grand missing from your bottom line 😢. Keep the faith and you did a good job with the corral and will serve you well for years.
“Quiet men make quiet cows”
@@DickAnderson-k9y I watch Sonne Farms, I’m always amazed with how gentle their herd is!
@@Blacktopcharities yeah for real
It is really true , as a farmer the sires & dams, really do pass on their temperament to to their offspring, it is uncanny.
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Good episode! Glad you show the realistic side of raising cattle, whether TH-cam likes it or not. We enjoy all your episodes. We have a small herd and have ran into one cow who's calves are always uncooperative. Yet, she throws healthy calves and is a good mama. We are in Salem, MO and happy to see a young man from Missouri is doing so well. God's blessings to you in all you do.
@@MistyHarms-p8w Still need a vet if you have animals. It’s humane
First farm channel from the US that I have found realistic and without a whole lot of unnecessary talking. Love it!
I'm sorry for the loss of your beautiful calf. It may be part of life on a ranch, but that doesn't mean it's easy. Best wishes for a happy holiday season to you and your family.
Appreciate the kind words. Have a good one!
I don't know much about cattle farming in USA, is it normal to "wait and see" for 3 days when a calf is that injured? Isn't it better for the calf to be seen by a vet the first day or be put out of it's misery immediately?
I am so sorry about your calf. We've lost cattle over the years and it never gets easier.
Love your videos, and glad to see you posting so many here recently. Always look forward to watching them
What did your vet say about the calf?
I didn’t get the opportunity to see the signs. I found three dead calves, lost one more and a cow truly hurts.
Scours or pneumonia will kill a calf quickly. Talking about 24 hours. Check them 2x a day if you can.
This is the part about cattle farming that stinks. Dern bulls being bulls.
Another beautiful sharing upload and share ! .. thanks again ! ..
Such a shame of the calf.....sorry for the loss.
Sorry for your loss.
Need to have a physical none see through barrier at the loading point
Yes that’s gonna be the next project. Calves kept sticking their heads through the sides. Haven’t figured out what material would be best though.
@FarmandHammer scrap barn roof will work. Nothing that will flap in the wind. Just so they can't see through on at the last cut gate. Also good job and making tall, I have seen cattle jump a 6 ft fence.
@@FarmandHammerjust a suggestion for you used or second hand conveyer belt easy to fit to panels where you're loading the calves/cows
@@Snyderfamilyhomestead I thought the same thing! Create a “blind” loading alley!
Buying older, bred cows is one way to grow a herd. You are going to have to work harder to get a more uniform bunch of calves, but it looks like you are in this for the long haul, so that shouldn't be a problem. Losing a calf in such a stupid way sure does suck. We had a calf get down in a very small depression and couldn't get up. It was the day before we sold them!
It's a very good way to make it in the cattle industry my family buy 200 short soild and broke mouth cows in the fall calf them out over the winter and sell them come spring and sell the calfs in August
Sad to hear about the calf,but bulls will be bulls.Keep safe Love ya Blessings .
sorry bout the loss.
How about getting a vet involved on a hurt/sick calf
How about living in the city, where there's a vet on every corner 😂😂😂 good grief. It might be a week or more before a vet makes it out to a ranch in rural America 🤣🤣🤣if at all
Trailer is dark inside compared to the rest of the corral, dark holes are not where cow/calf wants to go, or even see it as a barrier. See if putting a light in there (ceiling) helps them understand it is where they can/should go.
Charolais are really difficult cattle to handle. We had a bull and a heifer from two shorthorn cows and they never birthed again. You can only breed charlolais to charloais I guess. They tore up the barn, knocked down rail fences and bullied the rest of the herd. A guy bought both of them one fall just to get the blond hides. Sad about the calf. Good video. Pax.
Seems some charolais can be wild but I know they wean out HEAVY calves. Everyone’s got their preferences I guess.
@@icebabysnocain I had a hundred head of Charolais and never had any issues! They were always a gentle breed for us! Young cattle are always testing the boundaries!
We raise gelbveahs big cattle gentile as puppys ya gotta be around cattle to gentle them @@FarmandHammer
All animals fight for breeding purposes they don't normally end up dead when they don't have horns or antlers they usually just get their butt whipped he must have had an internal injury like you said but the bull did not outright kill him
@@johnrose9840 longtime cattle rancher, bulls durning breeding time are dangerous! I have seen many fight to the death! It is an animal’s natural instinct to get rid of the competition! It’s why wild animals will kill the offspring of others! Survival of the fittest!
I'm still learning. So are the calves you took away your plan is for them to be auctioned off for finishing as beef cattle?
Dude, you need to slow your roll… rushing animals is NEVER the answer… calm, steady, slow pace… no fear…
Only way to raise cattle been doing it goin on 70 years gotta be gentle and your cattle will be
You have more patience than I could ever muster.
Looks like the new improved corral you made is working out! The only folks who do not loose them dont have them.
It’s sure better than what I had before 😂 Still have some improvements I’d like to make on it but those will have to wait.
Sorry to hear you lost one Isaac.
I'm just going to say this as a tip not saying you're doing a bad thing but to stop injuries when you go to close the gate in any tense situation with livestock stand beside the gate not behind it cause if they push it and you are behind the gate they can seriously hurt you. Keep up the good work!
On another note your a beeter welder then you think poor welds would have busted when them calf's put all that pressure on the sucker rod in the panel in that same spot . Those pens are holding up nicely you built.
Still wouldn’t say I’m a good welder lol but you’re right, it held up better than I expected with those calves trying to push through it.
Go figure, teen age bull calves with the breeding bull and one ends up dead. Shocking
Your newly built pen seems to have not been designed for loading out cattle. Revisions are clearly needed, to make loading safer and more efficient.
The main goal of the pen was to be able to catch them without them breaking out. Plan is to build a Bud box and alley for loadout in the future
@@FarmandHammer Looking forward to seeing videos showing your future plans come into play, and making it much more effortless and safer when loading out from your catch pen. Having a catch pen that is strong and durable that is also portable, is quite the accomplishment.
Nice video, I farm in Devon UK. It may help with your loading if you watch a few videos from Temple Grandin on how cows see their environment. Her setups at slaughter houses have been adopted world wide.
Why not get an electronic protor (not sure about the name)?
It would make them move forcibly
You don't want to punish an animal for not understanding what you want.
Also, the trailer is darker then anything around. Putting a light in there may work way better. Light - dark transitions are difficult for animals, making them less extreme helps with that. Cooperation works way better always then force, and yes that requires observation, patience and knowing how animals think.
We’ve never owned an electric cattle prod. Just never needed it. Most the time the cows/calves respond well enough to noise and a paddle or flag.
@@BakangBigfish a cattle prod could make things worse, creat aggressive cattle, and cause them to overreact and hurt themselves! Floppy Flags work well…
Please tell me you’re keeping the blue roan cow I love her
If you are talking about the one with horns, yes she is staying for now. She is a little too friendly for having those big horns but she raised a good calf.
Good Eye Jaiden!
Curious if you've ever worked w/cattle dogs⁉️ I'm sorry about your calf, he was a nice looking one too. Time maybe for that bull to go to Freezer Camp lol...and get a bull w/better attitude🤷♀️. I hope you're having a great Holiday Season🎄✌️🇨🇱🇺🇸🙏
Good video sorry about the lost happy holidays to you and your family
Dang man ever thought about getting some help?
I don’t know about your vaccination program. Talk to a veterinarian about the possibility of black leg.
Normally blackleg will kill them quicker than in 3-4 days. Looked like a broken or dislocated shoulder. He didn’t present the normal blackleg signs.
@@FarmandHammer you’re doing great!
💩happens!!
looks like it ro me. Same exact Posture @FarmandHammer
I feel your frustration 😂
Man I worked in cattle markets you talk about some crazy bulls I have seen them.
calf is Fragile
Thank you for sharing ❤❤
I wonder if the trailer looking so dark inside is what makes them unwilling to go inside, put some good lights inside so it’s lit up like daylight?!!
@@jefferyschirm4103 yes! I think the light would make them think it was an escape route!
And that blue bull would make a beautiful rug...
Good morning all Thanks for the video sorry about that
Great Video!!!
Thanks for watching it!
If you have to sell 22 cows does that mean you have a fertility problem in the bull?
No. I purchased a bunch of old cull cows that were 3rd stage bred. I calved them out and let them raise another calf. But since they were old and needing to retire when I bought them, most of them need to be sold because they can’t handle raising another calf. I hope to replace them with younger stock that will last another 10+ years.
My dad did this all on a 400 acre farm
Sometimes I get scared for you with those big bulls you be careful as you know that work is dangerous and you are out there alone most of the time or it appears you’re alone. That is sad about your calf I hate to see that. Keep up the good work Issac.
Thanks for the concern but I do try to be as careful as I can. And yes, I normally work out there alone and the cell service isn’t great so I’d rather be safe than sorry. Even if that means climbing a fence when a calf or cow may just be bluffing. Thanks for watching again!
My Aunt raised 70 head and she could walk up to everyone of them and pet them.
Bull becomes hamburger on my farm
The crazy thing is, this bull gets picked on when he’s with our other herd bulls. Guess he took it out on a bull he thought he could handle.
You have a great pen , chute set up. It’s so hard to work cattle on your own. Some times it’s like herding cats! You’ve got great patience . Sorry about your calf. Such a waste of an important investment. Yep, bulls can so dangerous. Be well.
He couldnt put weight on one leg and you don't call vet or shoot him?
Young man I’m thinking if your are handling cattle you might want to make a better handling system
You should have seen my last corral set up 😂. I was lucky to have been able to load all the cows I did out of that one. I do have some improvements to make on it though. I just had to build these as quick as I could to get the calves weaned.
Aint realy a safe way to handle cattle they get spooked and thats it cattle raising is one of the most dangerious jobs you can do ya gotta be slow and carefull or your gonna get hurt been raising cattle for around 70 years hurt a few times they can get ornery
Great job, loading by yourself! Definitely ntly not the easiest thing to do!! .
I believe you were trying for the word definitely, defianitly means you were trying to defy something.
@@GeneAnderson-j7u it’s was spell check on my phone! Why don’t you mind your own business!! You clearly understood what I meant as did everyone else did!! Sorry you’re not respected and seen as the head of your own home Karen!!!
Sometimes blackleg presents like your description.
Normally it will kill them quicker than 3 or 4 days. His front shoulder/leg was pretty clearly broken. Didn’t look like blackleg. I was worried about that on day one though
doesn't seem to know much about handling cattle./
Careful with them gates bro
There's always that one cow that doesn't act right
so wonderful beautiful video Isaac i love it see so nice it’s so respectful work what you do
TH-cam whitewashing our world Certainly hasn't made it any safer, has it? By being honest and opening up conversations, progress is made.
Couldn't you have got a Vet ?
need to make the long ally your load out ally.
The plan is to add a Bud box and alley in the future! Just need some extra time and a little more money to make it happen.
And u let it happened…😤
Did u get rid of the killer?
lot of work for one person
Wau und das so stressfrei 😂😂😂
Cant weight to seemore brahma calves more problems crazy u need alot better set up
Half of these were the beefmaster calves. That’s about as crazy as they’ll get hopefully. Eventually when I get some more time and money I’ll get some more pens built.
@@FarmandHammer one is always learning! A lot of these commenters have never even smelled a cow, much less raised any!!
Well drive to his farm and spend your money and get it done for him then, since you seem to know so much.
@ take the pickle out of your mouth and enjoy life more! Your family would appreciate it I’m sure!!!
@ you talking to me?!
Wild, not good genes 😢
Loading cattle period is never 100% successful. Especially when they are not familiar with you, the truck, panels or process... You did the best you could with the time and utensils on hand. Just a thought... possible plastic or heavy tarp blocking the cattles eyesight through the panels could help. Honestly... They eventually were loaded... A win in the check box. Do your thing and we will keep viewing. Best wishes. MERRY CHRISTMAS 🤶 🎄 ❤️
Someone else mentioned making the loadout area solid where they can’t see out. Any recommendations on what material to use? Another viewer said used conveyor belt. I don’t really want to weld sheet metal on.
But yes, it’s a big improvement from what I had been using. And I didn’t lose any this time while loading so it served its purpose. Still have some improvements to make when I get some more time.
Man you need a dog to help 😂
You have to know how to train the dogs
That’s a stubborn bull
A ver, yo diría que este chico guía muy mal al ganado y pone a los animales muy nerviosos.
Business of cattle business...!
Honestly bro, your the dummy 😂😂😂😂 you just took a bunch of babies bro, everyone is screaming for mom, which I am sure they can still hear each other. They have amazing hearing. You need a flag or a cattle dog
That is so sad
Maybe treat your Cows better
Good job ur pens are 6 ft high
6’7” tall to be exact. I thought they were too tall but had a couple calves try jumping out so I guess they are working just fine.
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry buddy
Bulls can be nasty
Looks like you need to
Su biurifor
Theres a reson stock dies usually there made wrong when they die young
My Aunt raised 70 head and she could walk up to everyone of them and pet them.
He couldnt put weight on one leg and you don't call vet or shoot him?