I have been using this method by watching Todd's instruction since March 2020. I have rarely broken par in 50 years of playing, but have shot rounds of 64,66, and 67 since March, and shot 68 on my 69th birthday. Thanks, Todd. I love all things Moe!
Just watching this video again and it is interesting to see the correlation between Moe's leg movement and the pivot point on the lead side, with the lead knee taking the pivot point back in the backswing and the trail knee driving the pivot point through impact.
I played golf badly for years trying to copy a conventional swing, thanks to Todd I'm sure I could use this swing to improve a lot, with God's grace when I get my knee replacement done I will put it into practice.
Jack, Bobby Jones, Ben, Tiger, and those of their ilk are the atypical elite golfers who used/use the "typical" golf swing versus Moe's "single plane" swing. It is my hunch that Moe's swing will enable significantly more golfers to play significantly better. Thanks Todd (and Moe.)
I've been working on this for two weeks now, and it has completely changed my outlook on golf. I'm still having a mis-hit here and there, and I'm still working on aiming properly, but wow, I've never made contact like this before. I'm also working with one length clubs to try to simplify it even more. I would love to get a few lessons. Thank you for all of these videos. Truly game changing. When I would make great contact before, I truly felt like I just got lucky and didn't actually know what I was doing. Now It feels like something I can do, and I just need to clean it up and really hone in on the mechanics.
Very well done. You’re instruction videos are getting better and better. You’ve saved my swing and altered my approach to teaching. Thanks for keeping Moe’s Legacy functioning at such a high level.
Thanks, Todd. I ordered Natural Golf several years ago, but haven't played much since. I've had a couple shoulder surgeries recently and just don't have the range of motion that I had previously. Looking forward to putting these teachings into practice.
When I learned the swing, I was taught not to lock my pinky and pointer finger. Do you teach that, or do you lock? I also got taught to lush my right arm rather than pull with my left. Wondering your thoughts?
Hi Todd. thanks for the webinar friday. Like you said to master the swing we need to master the positions. I got your advice and started taking videos. Feel is not real 😅In the address position do you confirm 15 to 20 degrees of side tilt with the irons and woods ? sounds a lot. i'm currently 6 degrees (it's a very straight posture, probably having consequences in other parts of my swing).When I can I'll take access to your gold member academy so I could send my videos to your coaches to master all the important points. Thanks a lot. Rico
Single Plane Yoga anybody? breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practiced for health and relaxation.
I notice with Moe's setup that all of the lines (line of left arm/club, line of left leg/torso, line of right leg) extend and meet at the left shoulder as if to create a tripod when viewed from the front. Am I seeing this correctly and is this significant? Thanks.
I am interested in the ABT but have one question on this. How is it that a shorter person and real tall person using this training aid have the same stance width? Doesn't seem that it works unless you are "average" height and leg length.
Hi, great question. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. We recommend anyone over 6’2 just widen the trail foot slightly to the next marker on the alignment board, or anyone shorter than 5’6 narrow the trail foot slightly one marker. For instance, for a taller person using a 5 or 6 iron, you’d widen your stance slightly so that the trail foot would be in line with the 4/3 marker on the alignment trainer. The lead foot would remain at the same lead foot position on the board. Hope this helps. Here’s the link members.singleplaneacademy.com/alignment-and-ball-position-trainer/
Didn't Moe do full grip? Baseball grip I guess you'd call it. I see him using that a lot. Did he switch later on? I really don't know how much it matters, but I can't get away from that baseball grip. It feels like I have the most control, especially with Moe Normans swing. Interlock seems closest to it. Makes my hands feel as one.
Great question! This is an example of what Todd Graves often talks about, which is FEEL vs. REAL in the golf swing, meaning what you feel vs. what is actually occurring-which is why video review of your setup and swing is so important. th-cam.com/video/imsDP35v6Es/w-d-xo.html Because you reached out I uploaded a sample clip above. It's from one of our popular instructional videos, "Inside the Single Plane Swing" with Todd Graves, which talks a lot about feel vs. real and shows his point-of-view perspective of the Moe Norman Single Plane swing. View it here: th-cam.com/video/imsDP35v6Es/w-d-xo.html Our Master Instructors always refer to a stable lower body at setup in the form of an 𝗔-frame, but the lower body at address doesn't look like an "italicized" 𝘼-frame that would result from simply "bumping" the hips forward. You should feel weight evenly distributed at setup. Hope the clip above helps as Todd mentions this topic while demonstrating the setup from down-the-line, face-on, and point-of-view camera angles. Thanks again!
Graves Golf Thank you very much for showing me the video, the camera from above gives great views of the club to ball set up along with the position of the head with the tilt. Thanks
Yes definitely. If you’re referring to using standard variable-length clubs versus single-length clubs, Graves Golf does NOT promote single-length clubs to use the Moe Norman Single Plane Swing, which has significant differences compared to the swing of Bryson DeChambeau. Here’s a side-by-side comparison th-cam.com/video/iyzB4lwkX_Q/w-d-xo.html We do strongly recommend getting a set of custom-fit clubs specific to your measurements. We provide club fitting for free online at moenormangolf.com/clubs/free-club-fittings/ Properly-fit clubs allow you to get the most out of your bag and eliminates variables that may prevent you from making solid and consistent contact. We have multiple Callaway Master Club Fitters on staff and Callaway Master Professional Tim Graves (PGA), who heavily favors and promotes Callaway equipment to enhance your results with the Moe Norman Single Plane Swing as well as the short game. Graves Golf is the leading “green grass” distributor of Callaway clubs. I hope this helps. If you’d like more info you can contact Chandler Rusk, a Graves Golf Master Instructor and Callaway Master Club Fitter. Email Chandler at chandlerr@gravesgolf.com
I wish moe had been playing there in Torres pines today. He would have been like a tiger amongst a bunch of Chickens or something and destroyed these guys. Their swings all collapsed coming down the stretch
Regarding the lead arm position, at address, and the "cocking" of the left wrist (then and also later in the takeaway and rest of the swing) . Conventional swing position with arms hanging results in the left wrist being "cocked". To achieve the "rod", I have the left wrist almost fully "uncocked". Is this correct?
Correct, the lead arm alignment or "rod" is related to an unhinged (ulnar deviation) of the lead wrist and lead thumb positioned down the grip. The lead-hand thumb is extended but not too far down the shaft, more of a "medium thumb." Check out this blog by Todd Graves with photos regarding hand positions from address to backswing moenorman.org/2019/09/06/the-two-lines-and-tension-points-of-the-single-plane-swing/ Inside the Single Plane Academy we have a two-hour workshop by Todd Graves called the Domino Effect, in-depth instruction of correct grip & address and how it has a ripple effect through the entire full swing members.singleplaneacademy.com/gold-start-here/
I have been using this method by watching Todd's instruction since March 2020. I have rarely broken par in 50 years of playing, but have shot rounds of 64,66, and 67 since March, and shot 68 on my 69th birthday. Thanks, Todd. I love all things Moe!
Building a 365-day golf swing sounds like an achievable plan to me! All things Moe is the simplest way to go!
Just watching this video again and it is interesting to see the correlation between Moe's leg movement and the pivot point on the lead side, with the lead knee taking the pivot point back in the backswing and the trail knee driving the pivot point through impact.
I played golf badly for years trying to copy a conventional swing, thanks to Todd I'm sure I could use this swing to improve a lot, with God's grace when I get my knee replacement done I will put it into practice.
Jack, Bobby Jones, Ben, Tiger, and those of their ilk are the atypical elite golfers who used/use the "typical" golf swing versus Moe's "single plane" swing. It is my hunch that Moe's swing will enable significantly more golfers to play significantly better. Thanks Todd (and Moe.)
I've been working on this for two weeks now, and it has completely changed my outlook on golf. I'm still having a mis-hit here and there, and I'm still working on aiming properly, but wow, I've never made contact like this before. I'm also working with one length clubs to try to simplify it even more. I would love to get a few lessons. Thank you for all of these videos. Truly game changing. When I would make great contact before, I truly felt like I just got lucky and didn't actually know what I was doing. Now It feels like something I can do, and I just need to clean it up and really hone in on the mechanics.
Very well done. You’re instruction videos are getting better and better. You’ve saved my swing and altered my approach to teaching. Thanks for keeping Moe’s Legacy functioning at such a high level.
Thanks, Todd. I ordered Natural Golf several years ago, but haven't played much since. I've had a couple shoulder surgeries recently and just don't have the range of motion that I had previously. Looking forward to putting these teachings into practice.
Thanks for this first video. It was a great help for me to see this set up at different angles.
Needs more explanation of the extreme right hand grip, surely the most critical element of the whole Norman setup.
I have a WOOD swing - Works Only One Day. But that is going to change now.
When I learned the swing, I was taught not to lock my pinky and pointer finger. Do you teach that, or do you lock? I also got taught to lush my right arm rather than pull with my left. Wondering your thoughts?
Could you give the position of the ball please. Great video's
excellent
Hi Todd. thanks for the webinar friday. Like you said to master the swing we need to master the positions. I got your advice and started taking videos. Feel is not real 😅In the address position do you confirm 15 to 20 degrees of side tilt with the irons and woods ? sounds a lot. i'm currently 6 degrees (it's a very straight posture, probably having consequences in other parts of my swing).When I can I'll take access to your gold member academy so I could send my videos to your coaches to master all the important points. Thanks a lot. Rico
Single Plane Yoga anybody? breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practiced for health and relaxation.
I notice with Moe's setup that all of the lines (line of left arm/club, line of left leg/torso, line of right leg) extend and meet at the left shoulder as if to create a tripod when viewed from the front. Am I seeing this correctly and is this significant? Thanks.
I am interested in the ABT but have one question on this. How is it that a shorter person and real tall person using this training aid have the same stance width? Doesn't seem that it works unless you are "average" height and leg length.
Hi, great question. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. We recommend anyone over 6’2 just widen the trail foot slightly to the next marker on the alignment board, or anyone shorter than 5’6 narrow the trail foot slightly one marker. For instance, for a taller person using a 5 or 6 iron, you’d widen your stance slightly so that the trail foot would be in line with the 4/3 marker on the alignment trainer. The lead foot would remain at the same lead foot position on the board. Hope this helps. Here’s the link members.singleplaneacademy.com/alignment-and-ball-position-trainer/
Didn't Moe do full grip? Baseball grip I guess you'd call it. I see him using that a lot. Did he switch later on? I really don't know how much it matters, but I can't get away from that baseball grip. It feels like I have the most control, especially with Moe Normans swing. Interlock seems closest to it. Makes my hands feel as one.
I do not understand why you do not have millions of followers on your you tube site
When tilting the body at address do the hips move or just the upper body thanks
Great question! This is an example of what Todd Graves often talks about, which is FEEL vs. REAL in the golf swing, meaning what you feel vs. what is actually occurring-which is why video review of your setup and swing is so important.
th-cam.com/video/imsDP35v6Es/w-d-xo.html
Because you reached out I uploaded a sample clip above. It's from one of our popular instructional videos, "Inside the Single Plane Swing" with Todd Graves, which talks a lot about feel vs. real and shows his point-of-view perspective of the Moe Norman Single Plane swing. View it here: th-cam.com/video/imsDP35v6Es/w-d-xo.html
Our Master Instructors always refer to a stable lower body at setup in the form of an 𝗔-frame, but the lower body at address doesn't look like an "italicized" 𝘼-frame that would result from simply "bumping" the hips forward. You should feel weight evenly distributed at setup.
Hope the clip above helps as Todd mentions this topic while demonstrating the setup from down-the-line, face-on, and point-of-view camera angles. Thanks again!
Graves Golf Thank you very much for showing me the video, the camera from above gives great views of the club to ball set up along with the position of the head with the tilt. Thanks
Hi Todd
I am pulling the ball right
Hi really enjoyed video
I have a question can I do this swing with standard clubs
Yes definitely. If you’re referring to using standard variable-length clubs versus single-length clubs, Graves Golf does NOT promote single-length clubs to use the Moe Norman Single Plane Swing, which has significant differences compared to the swing of Bryson DeChambeau. Here’s a side-by-side comparison th-cam.com/video/iyzB4lwkX_Q/w-d-xo.html
We do strongly recommend getting a set of custom-fit clubs specific to your measurements. We provide club fitting for free online at moenormangolf.com/clubs/free-club-fittings/
Properly-fit clubs allow you to get the most out of your bag and eliminates variables that may prevent you from making solid and consistent contact.
We have multiple Callaway Master Club Fitters on staff and Callaway Master Professional Tim Graves (PGA), who heavily favors and promotes Callaway equipment to enhance your results with the Moe Norman Single Plane Swing as well as the short game. Graves Golf is the leading “green grass” distributor of Callaway clubs.
I hope this helps. If you’d like more info you can contact Chandler Rusk, a Graves Golf Master Instructor and Callaway Master Club Fitter. Email Chandler at chandlerr@gravesgolf.com
I wish moe had been playing there in Torres pines today. He would have been like a tiger amongst a bunch of Chickens or something and destroyed these guys. Their swings all collapsed coming down the stretch
How long did it take to make it simple - Moe says five hard years and 600 balls a day. Simple? Please tell me he was telling a fish story here.
Didn't moe grip it more in the palm?
0:46 Five years and 600 balls a day to make things "simple"...he's not wrong
5 years 600 balls a day . Thats what it takes to reach master level .
ball position between feet
0:33 The divot doesn't look right.
Less talk and more information . Just tell me the goals and demonstrate.
Two much talk and no action
All this bloke does is talk
Nothing on Moes grip.
This has photo/video of Moe’s grip starting around 13 minute mark th-cam.com/video/gTCMrjyyR88/w-d-xo.html
@@GravesGolf thank you very much.
Regarding the lead arm position, at address, and the "cocking" of the left wrist (then and also later in the takeaway and rest of the swing) . Conventional swing position with arms hanging results in the left wrist being "cocked". To achieve the "rod", I have the left wrist almost fully "uncocked". Is this correct?
Correct, the lead arm alignment or "rod" is related to an unhinged (ulnar deviation) of the lead wrist and lead thumb positioned down the grip. The lead-hand thumb is extended but not too far down the shaft, more of a "medium thumb." Check out this blog by Todd Graves with photos regarding hand positions from address to backswing moenorman.org/2019/09/06/the-two-lines-and-tension-points-of-the-single-plane-swing/ Inside the Single Plane Academy we have a two-hour workshop by Todd Graves called the Domino Effect, in-depth instruction of correct grip & address and how it has a ripple effect through the entire full swing members.singleplaneacademy.com/gold-start-here/