Great question! Where damage is a more dynamic field and can come from a variety of "weird" places (i.e. Boots, Shields, etc.), the code was written differently, especially surrounding the Ethereal state. A special code needed to be written to calculate this properly, as ethereal shields (for smite) and boots (for kicking) actually do NOT do any more damage just because they're ethereal. The difference in coding for this seemed to prevent the bug from happening on weapons. Pinning this interesting question!
Supposedly, the double application of the ethereal bonus is due to the fix for a bug where upgraded rare and unique armors lost their ethereal bonus in a previous patch. The fix for the upgrade bug is what caused the Tal + Thul + PTopaz bug. Lucky mercenaries and yourself if you make Prudence in an ebug armor. Weapons didn't have the same bug.
@@marcello4258 Yeah, Skulders has treasure class issues which make it hard to find to begin with. Same with gaze. There were enough people still playing in 1.10 and no bots that reg was still fairly valuable. Eth was just obnoxiously expensive for a good one that it just wasn’t worth it
same but def will when Resurrected comes out such videos makes me realise that they were a lot of things i didnt know even if i had all the gear i wanted back in the days. This game is better then the modern games its pretty awesome and sad to realise this fact.
Like the only thing I knew about years ago that was mentioned here was the Eth Bug. I'd never heard of the Zod bug or the rare class items with forbidden skills on them.
@@illiji915 Zbug CoH is a easy find for USWest pretty much not needed to even dupe since they duped the zbug armors w/o the runeword in them therefor making them legitimate
I remember staying up that night... for nothing, lol, it didn't reset until 4-7am? Whenever it was, it sure as hell wasn't the midnight my boy Justin and I thought.
I love videos like this. It's amazing that there's always interesting new things to learn about a 20 year old game that we've all played so much and thought there couldn't possibly be more to learn about.
Thanks for this. This is why I check all War Scepters. The roll to select the skill has to fail six times to get Holy Shield. Same thing for Weapon Block Claws and Poison Dagger Wands. Assassin Claws can have skills on all above and including Hand Scythe.
@@cwickwitted I’ve picked up every norm/magic/rare scepter since I heard about it over 10 years ago- “money sticks” for gambling, and not a single +holy shield. A couple hours of shopping is child’s play.
@@cwickwitted Woah, Napoleon (yes, I am aware he was actually average height for his day). But that’s some little man aggression ya got there. I was merely suggesting that you didn’t look at nearly enough scepters to reasonably expect to see one. Depending on single player vs bnet, you could maybe look at 50 scepters a minute. Over 6 hours that’s about 20K. Compared to something like a 50/50 coin flip, events with very low probabilities need a number of draws in the billions or trillions, or approaching infinity to display that probability. In other words, you could easily look at 160K scepters and not find one. That last “they” should be a “thou,” to maintain the style of your little schtick. Speaking of a little schtick, if that profile pic is you, I’m not surprised at the amount of little dick energy you have going on.
A little FYI, the durability bug happens with sets and uniques. A failed set item will spawn the magic item with double the durability and a failed unique will spawn the rare with triple the durability.
@Coooley My best memory is when I played Diablo 2 back in 2004 and somebody gave me this "Ungodly" armor in multiplayer. I played through all of D2's single player with it. You are very informative.
Poison dagger charges do have a secret use. If you use with Venom it will make the Venom spread over the PD duration but maintain the Venom DPS. It was fun to mess in PvP where people were convinced your pack was full of poison charms. Extremly niche but fun to know.
Hey I just stumbled across this video because of all my d2 resurrected hype. Just wanted to share, that screenshot of the zbug 171 shako was me! I am end @ jsp and that shako was one of several zbug trophies I owned over the years
Damn, I never realized that about the skills! I have definitely found a number of barb helms with plus combat skills, but didn't realize that was a game bug.
Some of them aren't necessarily that useful and, barb helms especially, are more common. But definitely something to think about next time you see one drop!
Yeah I didn't know it was a bug either! Found a poison dagger wand once and I remember being like "what the hell, how can I even use poison dagger if it's on a wand", it being a bug definitely makes sense there :P
ur knowledge is so amazing, the way u deliver it = perfect. Just super enjoyable to watch even tho I do not play d2 anymore. Ive tried to make an acc on east (to smack u in pvp) but the ping there is way too high for me since im european
Thank you for your kind words! Sorry that the ping is so high from Europe :( I do enjoy gettin' smacked around in PvP. It's the best way to learn new tricks! haha
Last bug you mentioned was my nightmare for about a couple of months since I found a rare Spiderweb sash off Pindle with triple durability! That was supposed to be my Arachnid mesh and I found out about this bug because the same thing happened to Dbrunski in one of his videos ^^ Great video, keep it up
Especially if you’re single player (speed optimization) I’ve always found D and Meph to be the best for Arach. Elites drop it, but bosses will do it more consistently
I absolutely LOVE your videos and how you explain this stuff. I probably played 2,000+ hours of D2 back in the day, up through 1.11, and did not know some of this stuff. Here's to 2,000 more hours in D2 Resurrected :)
shoutout to Jared and Greendude on east hardcore non ladder. Greendude and Jared had bugged small poison charms; i mean the ones that did "400 damage for x seconds" were actually "400 to life". I'm sure I can get a screenshot if I ask the old boys.
The ebug could have been easily removed, but luckily the devs saw it as a game enhancing mechanic. Unintended for sure, but a great bug for players to aim for.
When i saw the video title, i thought all the possible topics you could cover. And you did! For me, there was nothing new, still, i appreciate the info you made common knowledge for the most awesome game ever made. Kudos!
Always felt the eth Armor bug was a happy accident. Since there’s only a blah 2 soc runeword for player use (Unless you don’t mind breakage), it’s merc only, and even fully geared, they’re squishy. Fun story: found a perf base def eth Sacred Armor, naturally got 1 soc so couldn’t even make prudence. Also had a 44 res eth vortex ruined, which are extremely rare if you don’t realize how many bases are duped by botters.
Huh. Never knew this. I always assumed that the only bugged items were the paladin class specific shields that dropped in hell. They had super high stats but appeared on the low level paladin shields.
The auto mods have level restrictions to spawn, but don’t cause the level restriction on the shield. For ex: the highest res all is something like level 45 monster level that dropped the shield to spawn. But a non magic targe will be level... 3?... to use no matter what.
The durability bug on classic D2 was pretty common since all exceptional items had no unique associated with them. Add to this unique items were exclusionary to a game they already existed in, and you could force a lot of items like this.
No, the ebug armors are a result of a "fix" to upgrading rare/unique ethereal armor. In 1.10 they would lose their eth defense bonus, so the "fix" was to add eth bonus to any eth armor type item coming out of the cube. Anyway, as a Single Player enthusiast, I often switch which game version I run. Version 1.00 allows repeated cow king kills, and uniques didn't have a lvl req back then. They only gain that once converted to expansion. However, if you want to do rushes in classic, SoJs with no level req is bonkers. As are the bugged mana per kill rings from 1.07, not to mention the crafts.
I keep learning about this awesome 20yo game till this day thanks to you Cooley, your channel is unique same as this rare ítems, keep the great content!
I recently shopped a +3 HS scepter for LLD. Took some time for get one level 30 or under. Doing it in act 2 NM with the town exit right next to Drognan I would see some sort of +HS scepter about every 20 mins.
Every 20 min? I’m calling BS. Unless you are a speed reader and/or using a program, that’s maybe 1000 scepters that you looked at for a 1 in a million roll.
@@chrisp2272 3 or 4 shops a min running 20 feet with vigor. Maybe it was longer than that on average but definitely saw a few in the couple hours it took to find one the right level. This was in path of Diablo but I dont think that mod would have affected npc shops.
@@autoaero3201 Are you using a loot filter? I’ve shopped various items before, and the difficult parts are finding the line of text you’re looking for because they don’t line up. So you aren’t just reading up and down, left and right. You’re browsing. After a few minutes, maintaining a shopping pace causes you to forget to blink. Clicking on the NPC isn’t an exact science either. The actual rarity seems to be 1 in 80K, even if you saw 100 a minute, that’s 800 minutes to see 80K, so you got extremely lucky if you saw multiples in a couple hours. Now I have to dust off the D2 and investigate...
@@chrisp2272 no filters. definitely got pretty quick at reading. Holy shock would be the only skill that would trip me up. Plus he mostly sold grand scepters so there could be quite a few on the page at a time. Maybe skills rolls are slightly different from npcs on magic items. Even if I saw 100 scepters a minute thats probably easily 200 skill rolls though on average. If scepter rolls with 3 skills then the 3rd skill has 2 less options it could be. They just aren't as rare from a shop. On the flip side I've maybe seen 1 drop from a monster? And I've never found a +ww helm
@@autoaero3201 The 1 in 80K doesn’t mean you’ll find it in 40K scepters if they all have two skills, it means that you can get 1 skill or 3 on a scepter, and it takes 80K scepters to get HS once.
@Coooley, I can tell you're a longtime pure and true fan of the diablo franchise. You should try Grim Dawn's Reign of Terror Diablo 2 Full Game Remake Mod. It's Incredible.... literally like re-living the game in modern day (well as close to it as we're ever going to get.)
As a necro player the poison dagger skill being forbidden is really neet but ultimately not mandatory for poison and bone builds as a forbidden skill roll on a item so I personally wouldn't pay a premium for it I can see why a min maxer would.
The reason why some skills are forbidden is quite a nitpicky one - can't hit with your head, therefore no melee skills are allowed on helms (they are allowed on Druid pelts, but that's a separate can of worms). Holy Shield and Smite are of course *shield* skills, so it isn't logical for a scepter to possess them. And similarly, wands and shrunken heads aren't daggers.
5:40 blizzards engines can be a bit funky. I remember being a young kid in highschool, and i wrote a bit of code similar to this. Instead of it trying 6 times and just exiting the loop, Warcraft 3 would just crash immediately, everytime regardless of if it worked first time or not. LUL There's a way to code it so you don't have to check a random index of the entire set, which I was forced to learn after the crash issue. Funny that whoever wrote that script didn't know to do that (=
Was doing chaos runs and D dropped an arachs. Sweet! The very next run a random mob dropped a rare spiderweb sash with triple durability.. it was pretty amusing
The only bugged item I ever remember "finding" was an Eth bugged Shaftstop but it bugged in the wrong direction...I upped it to Boneweave but the armor value stayed the same as Mesh armor D:
I have been wondering and researching / discussing the holy shield scepter thing for a while now trying to get to the bottom of it. I'm a bit confused still. You say the mods are not supposed to spawn on class-specific items. But a scepter is not class-specific; but what you're saying is, the game tried to roll mods 6 times on the scepter before giving it holy shield, what are the mods that it tried to roll 6 times? Holy shield 6 times in a row I guess? haha
This video is 4 years old, but I'm disappointed it didn't include the durability bug on magic items too, which occurs when an item rolls as a set but there's no corresponding set item
Extra durability weapons are really nice in D2 Classic for whirlwind barb. Especially after 1.10 when they increased the amount of hits WW does. A rare lance with 75 durability vs the default 25. Though I'm not sure why it spawns 75, back in the pre-LoD it used to spawn 255 or something. How it worked back then is that you would carry a Unique pike with you in the game and when ever the game tried to roll a unique pike it would fail and reroll to possible Rare Lance with 5x durability. Back then uniques could only exist once in the game, which is why it was very easy to gamble SoJ's also. Keep Nagel and Manald and every unique you gamble would be SoJ (just remember to mule them away). Gambling could roll uniques with 3-5% chance..
I remember when I played years ago, hacked/bugged harlequins crest (Shako) existed. They were hacked in such a way, that they had 2 or 3 sockets. The 3 socket one didn't even look like a Shako but rather that crown-looking helm. Yes, this was on *closed* bnet. I remember because I traded literally everything I had of value for one. And I had a ton of gear. I lived and breathed Diablo 2 as an (at the time) unemployed, living in my parents basement type supernerd. The norm was putting IST runes in it to increase MF. I haven't been able to find any info about it at all, which really annoys me, because noone believes me! :(
@@adamcarr4989 Just like these bugged items are "impossible". If someone told me about the items in this video, without showing them to me, I'd say THAT was impossible as well. It had something to do with merging items. It was like a mix of Crown of Ages and Harle. The stats were all messed up. But it had most of the Harle stats.
It's been many years since I last played. Is plugy useable in online Diablo? If not, then how you keep all your stuff with the small space within the game?
This probably isn't a bug but it seems like it to me. A few years ago i got an amulet with +3 to traps and i believe 25 charges of lvl 2 teleport. I haven't seen another amulet like that since. Maybe i was just really lucky that day.
@Coooley Help please!! I gambled for a pair of gloves in Nightmare, and it rolled with Fire and Cold res. When i put them on, All my resistances go from low 10-30 all the way up too 75%. Meaning i seem to get 40-50 all res from them. I also get way more sheet armor than im supposed too from them. Im supposed to get only 11, but the sheet shows an increase of 50 extra armor. Can i trust the sheet character screen, or is it just showing more than im acutally getting. From gameplay it doesnt feel like i am topped up on res.
Do the gloves have any +strength on them? When you take off the gambled gloves, does any of your other equipped armor suddenly appear red? Is your strength score lower than the strength requirement to equip your other armor pieces? It may be the case that you don't have enough strength to naturally equip all your gear, but at some point you had gear that provided enough +strength to equip everything. At some point you removed that +strength gear, so while the armor stayed in your inventory slot, you don't actually get any stat benefit out of it and the item appears red. So if your gloves give you enough strength to wear the rest of your gear, suddenly you'll see the benefits of your gloves + whatever armor you didn't qualify for show up in your character sheet at the same time when you put the gloves on.
@@-Keith- Thanx for answering. Yes the gloves have +2 strength on them. I think that might be it. I kept playing, and after a while its back to normal. I think it might have been my armor. It had high Str requirement at the time. Was starting to wonder if the gloves had hidden stats or something.
FYI, from a streamer to a streamer/channel operator... create a visual 'deflection', your chest at a slight angle, to limit anxiety/viewer-exhaustion when 'squaring up' shoulder line to shoulder line, directly facing one another. Do a 15-second long rendition of the same recording, with each type of positioning. It's not that we don't want you to feel as if you're about to lean in and slowly make-out with us (lol, all joking aside, it's the same anxiety your brain sources it from)... it's simply just how it is. Give it a shot, you may be surprised how much easier it is to watch and, even more important, absorb your content. Otherwise, the first time I've interacted with your channel aside from a sub (oh shit, I'm JUST now doing so? yikes..) I THOUGHT I had done a while back. Great content, keep it up!!!
Thank you for this feedback! I did recently order a new green screen. Previously, I had just painted my back wall green (LOL!). But in order to get a better angle (and not have to paint the floor green too), we had to step it up. What do you stream?? Thanks again, Chad!
Bro, this is just weird. Like, I would be MORE than insulted hearing this. Just let the man do him and you do you. No need to bring unnecessary, petty comments in trying to act like a hotshot. Just look stupid by claiming this made up scientific fact 😑🤔😑🤔
@@adamcarr4989 Act like a hotshot? lol.. What are you talking about? Its perfectly sound and legitimate advice. I never claimed to make better content, complimented the hell out of what he does... wtf are you talking about, guy? lol. This is the shit that's wrong with the world, everyone is so ready to be offended and attack... I suggested the man turn like... 5-8 degrees... lol... *insert grandma 'wut' meme*
And you don't think telling someone to move 5-8 degrees is a weird prospect? GG, GD? and I'm the one trying to act like a hotshot? "This is what's wrong with the world hurr durrr" you're such an idiot and you can't even see it, classic!
do you possibly refer ro pre 1.11, i case for the cta scepter? i just checked on this one, because i remembered scepters not beging legit for the rw. wiki says: ALL weapons up to 1.10. anyway - kicks butt :) nice videos..
I have a SUPERIOR necro demon head.. With +2 bone armor +2 bone spear +1 bone wall and prison +2 to bone spirit With Rune Words +2 to necro skills/ skill.. It's very rare when you got it on Solo farming drops the SUPERIOR HEAD.. ❤️
Great video. Made me mad tho. I’ve rolled ten thousand of sceptres looking for 2/3/3 on my plugy and never cared about anything else. Maybe I rolled a godly item and handed it to charsi.
cooley do you think its to expensive to make characters that can kill high armor classes like dins or do you think its fair? i hate the amount of time i put on my ghost sin that can barley hit a pally but my mfdin can join a duel game and start killing everyone
Remember when .10 came out i took the zod out of my very first arcaines valor I found off Hell pindle with ITH sword barb. it was a +2 barb +2 druid eth valor. Kept the indestructible mod. GG video.
They aren’t bugged. You get the duration of the prefix and suffix added together, then the DPS of each mid is added up for the total. They’re only good in duels, worthless PvM. The crazy thing is when you find two low level mods, it’s enough poison to actually kill at lower levels.
I remember having finding holy shield scepters but yeah, had far more whirlwind helms over the years. Always knew to look for them, but not how it actually worked with the code and the engine. On E-bug, I see that has an happy little accident since it gave value to some bases, same for zod bug in conjunction for non-self-repair, non-indestructible items. Now, could you explain how taking the Horadric Staff past act 2 bug worked? did it accidentally a few times. And once I went back to town using the portal Deckard Cain creates and it became permanent, never heard of anyone doing that and my friends thought I was bullshitting them, tried many times but could never recreate it. Maybe very specific 1 frame 1 pixel click or something. Probably more bugs Im forgetting, but there's a video idea, could also include old skill bugs in it like bone wall farming. Good luck getting footage for most of them though, Im not sure I even have the screens from my older drives anymore.
Back in patch 1.09, I distinctly remember a unique Aegis (!!!?) dropping from cows. This was during the height of one of the public dupe exploits that made the servers incredibly laggy - actually playing was incredibly painful as you kept desynching, but we were 12 years old and completely obsessed with Diablo. Anyway, the reason a unique Aegis is weird is it should not have dropped in that patch at all. There was no unique Aegis in 1.09. In 1.08, it was a Stormshield, and in 1.10+, it was a Medusa's Gaze. But 1.09 was a patch that did not have a unique Aegis at all! A schoolmate of mine picked it up before I managed to get to it, and I tried to convince him to identify it to see what it was, but he decided to sell it as an "unid 08 Stormshield" (which it almost certainly wasn't). I assume it was another unique that the servers spawned with the wrong item base, due to a bit flipping somewhere in memory. Computers aren't 100% reliable, and Blizzard likely did not spend extra money to get enterprise-class hardware with ECC memory. Anyway, so I makes me wonder if some of the commonly-duped bugged items that had the properties of a unique or set, but with the wrong base (such as the Occulus ring, for example) might have been a legitimately found drop, when playing on server with ever-so-slightly unstable hardware.
hi Coooley, i like your videos! You told me some useful infos even to a vetaran player like me who playing Diablo 2 since october 2003, good job! Now, can i have a question please?; is it possible to find a +3 to 'Conviction' AND +3 to 'Fist of the Heavens' AND +3 to 'Holy Shield' War Scepter or Divine Scepter or Caduceus, 0 or 5 socketed ( for cta ), preferably with 15 % ed 3 ar? Best i saw ingame so far was 1-3-3 non-superior war scepter cta663 inside, but that was years ago. So, my concrete question is that nowadays still possible to find such things? Thank you in advance ! Subbed ofc !
Thanks man! Glad you're liking the videos. I'm actually not sure if this is possible. I know that the skills that spawn on these scepters tend to be in the same "tier". It'd be rare to see HS mixed in with lvl 30 skills (if it's even possible). Hope this helps! Thanks for the sub
Aaahh, the durability bug! I remember when the item would have rolled a set it had double durability, and triple if it rolled unique (but obviously haven't got a set/unique version).
I’m pretty sure it’s a lie though. As in- non ladder, a diadem is more likely to spawn with triple dura than a diadem is to spawn unique in ladder. The quality or some sort of item level restriction doesn’t exist
@@chrisp2272 Griffon's Eye has an ilvl of 84, so it can be dropped only in a couple of areas. That explains the existence of triple dura Diadems. Never really played nl, so I don't have any experience about that. What do you mean by "more likely to spawn"? Do you have exact numbers extracted from the MPQ files, or is it just personal experience? Because the latter can be very misleading - you just don't have enough time to collect a big enough statistical sample to safely say something like this.
@@hungarianheroes Diadems are of such a high base item level, that anywhere that they can drop can probably also drop the unique version (if you’re playing ladder). People spend most of their time in area 85 places anyway. Or places that elite packs get the level boost to drop all the items. What I failed to say clearly: I’m not 100% sure if all the triple dura diadems you find on non ladder had the same “impossible” item roll of a Griff’s or not. It seems as though I find more failed uniques in less time playing non ladder than I find the actual item on ladder. Leading me to believe something in the item generation calculation is different in instances in which an item can’t drop. Most of the item generation tutorials you can find are paraphrased and aren’t answering the specific question about triple dura. It looks like I might just be making this up (watch some of the “5K pit runs” vids out there to see the differing numbers of extremely rare items that drop. The first 5k will find 3 Griffs and no CoA then they’ll find 1 Griffs and 5 CoA the next 5K runs; you’d need to do millions of runs to get the actual average).
@@chrisp2272 Thanks for the answer. I had to recheck something before answering because I haven't played D2 lately. Griffon's Eye is a Ladder-only item, which pretty much explains why are much more common triple dura rare diadems in non-ladder than in ladder.
@@hungarianheroes No sweat. I’m not sure my speculation is true or not, but I pretend that triple dura drops a lot more often so that I don’t feel robbed when it happens. A fun collecting game: find triple dura of items like breast plate. Or chain mail. You have to find the unique in a game then find the rare in the same game for it to happen. Some items are easier than others, I’ve definitely found a triple dura and unique breast played from norm diablo himself
I play long time ago D2 and I remembers me about an elixir they give +1 on all attributes also stamina dexterity etc , this elixir was build with the horadric Cube , someone now how ?
You were probably playing a modded client. There were no stat elixirs at any point in the game in D2 or D2x. There was a quest in act 3 that gave you 5 free stat points after turning in a book to an NPC, but that's it. Act 1 had +1 skill point from den of evil and an item imbue from finding the horadric malus. Act 2 had +1 skill point from sewers level 3. Act 3 had +5 attribute points from Lam esan's tome and a permanent +20 HP boost for the golden bird statue quest. Act 4 had +2 skill points from killing Izual. Act 5 had +10 resist all (permanent buff) for saving Anya, a free item socket for killing Shenk the Overseer, and an item personalization for killing Nihlathak.
@@francocadinot5081 You're mistaken, it doesn't exist. I used to make mods for D2, trust me here. There were never stat boosting elixirs in vanilla D2 or D2x at any point, ever. Only in mods. The only consumable potion that increased any stats was the quest potion from act 3 quest 1 to boost HP. You can prove this by downloading an MPQ extractor and extracting CubeMain.txt, then pasting the contents into a spreadsheet editor in tab separated value format. That file lists every horadric cube recipe that exists in the game. Or you can check out classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml for the official site's recipe list.
And why ebug doesnt work for weapons then ?
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Great question! Where damage is a more dynamic field and can come from a variety of "weird" places (i.e. Boots, Shields, etc.), the code was written differently, especially surrounding the Ethereal state. A special code needed to be written to calculate this properly, as ethereal shields (for smite) and boots (for kicking) actually do NOT do any more damage just because they're ethereal. The difference in coding for this seemed to prevent the bug from happening on weapons. Pinning this interesting question!
Supposedly, the double application of the ethereal bonus is due to the fix for a bug where upgraded rare and unique armors lost their ethereal bonus in a previous patch.
The fix for the upgrade bug is what caused the Tal + Thul + PTopaz bug. Lucky mercenaries and yourself if you make Prudence in an ebug armor.
Weapons didn't have the same bug.
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Pretty sure I upped an eth shaftstop before the bug fix and just scratched my head for a minute after
@@marcello4258
Yeah, Skulders has treasure class issues which make it hard to find to begin with. Same with gaze.
There were enough people still playing in 1.10 and no bots that reg was still fairly valuable. Eth was just obnoxiously expensive for a good one that it just wasn’t worth it
I don't play D2 anymore but I love these interesting facts about it. I always wondered how people did these certain things.
it kinda died when blizz kicked brevik and gang to the curb. they cant treat talented ppl like that, many ppl lost interest because of that.
Try Median XL + GlideFX Wrapper. Those mods reignited my D2 passion. :)
same but def will when Resurrected comes out such videos makes me realise that they were a lot of things i didnt know even if i had all the gear i wanted back in the days. This game is better then the modern games its pretty awesome and sad to realise this fact.
Like the only thing I knew about years ago that was mentioned here was the Eth Bug. I'd never heard of the Zod bug or the rare class items with forbidden skills on them.
@@illiji915 Zbug CoH is a easy find for USWest pretty much not needed to even dupe since they duped the zbug armors w/o the runeword in them therefor making them legitimate
It's good to see you made the effort for a full explanation and gave great details on these functions.
"The new stuff .. added in 1.10"
Boy, do I know that feeling. Where has the time gone
I remember staying up that night... for nothing, lol, it didn't reset until 4-7am? Whenever it was, it sure as hell wasn't the midnight my boy Justin and I thought.
I love videos like this. It's amazing that there's always interesting new things to learn about a 20 year old game that we've all played so much and thought there couldn't possibly be more to learn about.
Thanks for this. This is why I check all War Scepters.
The roll to select the skill has to fail six times to get Holy Shield. Same thing for Weapon Block Claws and Poison Dagger Wands.
Assassin Claws can have skills on all above and including Hand Scythe.
I once spent 5-6'ish hours shopping for a Holy Shield scepter... even a single +1... guess how well that 1:80,000+ ratio went?
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I’ve picked up every norm/magic/rare scepter since I heard about it over 10 years ago- “money sticks” for gambling, and not a single +holy shield.
A couple hours of shopping is child’s play.
I love imbuing ethereal claws. They tend to get a lot of skills. It’s like holding a prism. You just stare and say oooooooooooo
chris P wtf? Speak to me wise-one... thou aren’t bridge-trolling thy areth they?
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Woah, Napoleon (yes, I am aware he was actually average height for his day). But that’s some little man aggression ya got there. I was merely suggesting that you didn’t look at nearly enough scepters to reasonably expect to see one.
Depending on single player vs bnet, you could maybe look at 50 scepters a minute. Over 6 hours that’s about 20K. Compared to something like a 50/50 coin flip, events with very low probabilities need a number of draws in the billions or trillions, or approaching infinity to display that probability. In other words, you could easily look at 160K scepters and not find one.
That last “they” should be a “thou,” to maintain the style of your little schtick. Speaking of a little schtick, if that profile pic is you, I’m not surprised at the amount of little dick energy you have going on.
A little FYI, the durability bug happens with sets and uniques. A failed set item will spawn the magic item with double the durability and a failed unique will spawn the rare with triple the durability.
Failed set rolls blue (magic) not yellow (rare)
@Coooley My best memory is when I played Diablo 2 back in 2004 and somebody gave me this "Ungodly" armor in multiplayer. I played through all of D2's single player with it. You are very informative.
Poison dagger charges do have a secret use. If you use with Venom it will make the Venom spread over the PD duration but maintain the Venom DPS. It was fun to mess in PvP where people were convinced your pack was full of poison charms. Extremly niche but fun to know.
Hey I just stumbled across this video because of all my d2 resurrected hype. Just wanted to share, that screenshot of the zbug 171 shako was me! I am end @ jsp and that shako was one of several zbug trophies I owned over the years
Damn, I never realized that about the skills! I have definitely found a number of barb helms with plus combat skills, but didn't realize that was a game bug.
Some of them aren't necessarily that useful and, barb helms especially, are more common. But definitely something to think about next time you see one drop!
@@Coooley most commonly, I've found them with leap attack or concentrate - which was nice when I played a conc barb.
Yeah I didn't know it was a bug either! Found a poison dagger wand once and I remember being like "what the hell, how can I even use poison dagger if it's on a wand", it being a bug definitely makes sense there :P
ur knowledge is so amazing, the way u deliver it = perfect. Just super enjoyable to watch even tho I do not play d2 anymore. Ive tried to make an acc on east (to smack u in pvp) but the ping there is way too high for me since im european
Thank you for your kind words! Sorry that the ping is so high from Europe :( I do enjoy gettin' smacked around in PvP. It's the best way to learn new tricks! haha
@@Coooley knowing you are now a bounty contract i'll too hope to see you in resurrected 👑
Last bug you mentioned was my nightmare for about a couple of months since I found a rare Spiderweb sash off Pindle with triple durability! That was supposed to be my Arachnid mesh and I found out about this bug because the same thing happened to Dbrunski in one of his videos ^^
Great video, keep it up
Especially if you’re single player (speed optimization) I’ve always found D and Meph to be the best for Arach. Elites drop it, but bosses will do it more consistently
such a cool dive into some of the niches of the game. Good explanation of the forbidden skills
Cooley this is amazing. You are explaining all the shit I have been wondering about for many many years.. thank you
I absolutely LOVE your videos and how you explain this stuff. I probably played 2,000+ hours of D2 back in the day, up through 1.11, and did not know some of this stuff.
Here's to 2,000 more hours in D2 Resurrected :)
shoutout to Jared and Greendude on east hardcore non ladder. Greendude and Jared had bugged small poison charms; i mean the ones that did "400 damage for x seconds" were actually "400 to life". I'm sure I can get a screenshot if I ask the old boys.
does all this work on PD2?
Not gonna lie, +poison dagger on a wand would be quite funny. Like how am I supposed to use this
Yup. Had one of those. Completely useless (although, I was stoked for a while, until I realized... Yeah)!
could a duel wielding barb use it?
me writing all this down for Resurected :D
4:40 does that not say on shields? Meaning it CAN be on a scepter?? Let me know
The ebug could have been easily removed, but luckily the devs saw it as a game enhancing mechanic. Unintended for sure, but a great bug for players to aim for.
When i saw the video title, i thought all the possible topics you could cover. And you did! For me, there was nothing new, still, i appreciate the info you made common knowledge for the most awesome game ever made. Kudos!
Always felt the eth Armor bug was a happy accident. Since there’s only a blah 2 soc runeword for player use (Unless you don’t mind breakage), it’s merc only, and even fully geared, they’re squishy.
Fun story: found a perf base def eth Sacred Armor, naturally got 1 soc so couldn’t even make prudence.
Also had a 44 res eth vortex ruined, which are extremely rare if you don’t realize how many bases are duped by botters.
Huh. Never knew this. I always assumed that the only bugged items were the paladin class specific shields that dropped in hell. They had super high stats but appeared on the low level paladin shields.
The auto mods have level restrictions to spawn, but don’t cause the level restriction on the shield.
For ex: the highest res all is something like level 45 monster level that dropped the shield to spawn. But a non magic targe will be level... 3?... to use no matter what.
These kind of videos makes me wonder how many very very very rare items i missed/sold or threw away :)
wow didn't know that about Holy Shield. great video!! love your content!!
The durability bug on classic D2 was pretty common since all exceptional items had no unique associated with them. Add to this unique items were exclusionary to a game they already existed in, and you could force a lot of items like this.
No, the ebug armors are a result of a "fix" to upgrading rare/unique ethereal armor. In 1.10 they would lose their eth defense bonus, so the "fix" was to add eth bonus to any eth armor type item coming out of the cube.
Anyway, as a Single Player enthusiast, I often switch which game version I run. Version 1.00 allows repeated cow king kills, and uniques didn't have a lvl req back then. They only gain that once converted to expansion. However, if you want to do rushes in classic, SoJs with no level req is bonkers. As are the bugged mana per kill rings from 1.07, not to mention the crafts.
Great video man! Awesome content and presentation, looking forward to many more videos.
Congrats on 2k subs dude!
Thanks, man!
12.7k Subs now!!😇
I keep learning about this awesome 20yo game till this day thanks to you Cooley, your channel is unique same as this rare ítems, keep the great content!
Thanks, Rodrigo. This really means a lot! I appreciate you
Any chance of a ghost assassin build guide?
7:46 or if this uniq already dropped in this game. Every uniq can spawn only once in each game.
Cooley, is this video still applicable with the current version D2R?
I never played a paladin. What good would it be to have holy shield on scepter ? or is it that is a usable plus skill point ?
I recently shopped a +3 HS scepter for LLD. Took some time for get one level 30 or under. Doing it in act 2 NM with the town exit right next to Drognan I would see some sort of +HS scepter about every 20 mins.
Every 20 min? I’m calling BS. Unless you are a speed reader and/or using a program, that’s maybe 1000 scepters that you looked at for a 1 in a million roll.
@@chrisp2272 3 or 4 shops a min running 20 feet with vigor. Maybe it was longer than that on average but definitely saw a few in the couple hours it took to find one the right level. This was in path of Diablo but I dont think that mod would have affected npc shops.
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Are you using a loot filter? I’ve shopped various items before, and the difficult parts are finding the line of text you’re looking for because they don’t line up. So you aren’t just reading up and down, left and right. You’re browsing. After a few minutes, maintaining a shopping pace causes you to forget to blink. Clicking on the NPC isn’t an exact science either.
The actual rarity seems to be 1 in 80K, even if you saw 100 a minute, that’s 800 minutes to see 80K, so you got extremely lucky if you saw multiples in a couple hours.
Now I have to dust off the D2 and investigate...
@@chrisp2272 no filters. definitely got pretty quick at reading. Holy shock would be the only skill that would trip me up. Plus he mostly sold grand scepters so there could be quite a few on the page at a time. Maybe skills rolls are slightly different from npcs on magic items. Even if I saw 100 scepters a minute thats probably easily 200 skill rolls though on average. If scepter rolls with 3 skills then the 3rd skill has 2 less options it could be. They just aren't as rare from a shop. On the flip side I've maybe seen 1 drop from a monster? And I've never found a +ww helm
@@autoaero3201
The 1 in 80K doesn’t mean you’ll find it in 40K scepters if they all have two skills, it means that you can get 1 skill or 3 on a scepter, and it takes 80K scepters to get HS once.
@Coooley, I can tell you're a longtime pure and true fan of the diablo franchise. You should try Grim Dawn's Reign of Terror Diablo 2 Full Game Remake Mod. It's Incredible.... literally like re-living the game in modern day (well as close to it as we're ever going to get.)
As a necro player the poison dagger skill being forbidden is really neet but ultimately not mandatory for poison and bone builds as a forbidden skill roll on a item so I personally wouldn't pay a premium for it I can see why a min maxer would.
Yeah I don't think they're useful at all... The poison dagger wands. But certainly a collector's item!
awesome videos! been watching a few of yours
I didn't know that about the ZOD rune bug! What a fantastic bug!
The reason why some skills are forbidden is quite a nitpicky one - can't hit with your head, therefore no melee skills are allowed on helms (they are allowed on Druid pelts, but that's a separate can of worms). Holy Shield and Smite are of course *shield* skills, so it isn't logical for a scepter to possess them. And similarly, wands and shrunken heads aren't daggers.
Hey man I love your video. I didn't know about the combat skills with the barb and the holy shield bug. Great work!
5:40 blizzards engines can be a bit funky. I remember being a young kid in highschool, and i wrote a bit of code similar to this. Instead of it trying 6 times and just exiting the loop, Warcraft 3 would just crash immediately, everytime regardless of if it worked first time or not. LUL
There's a way to code it so you don't have to check a random index of the entire set, which I was forced to learn after the crash issue. Funny that whoever wrote that script didn't know to do that (=
I'm loving these videos. They fixed the EBug eth armors with d2r, right?
Was doing chaos runs and D dropped an arachs. Sweet! The very next run a random mob dropped a rare spiderweb sash with triple durability.. it was pretty amusing
I was lucky enough to have a handful of 1.09 ethereal bugged items back in the day. gbane, vgaze, bartucs, even a very random headstriker.
Double and triple Durability spiderweb sash from trav, I cry everytime.
dude! awesome vids, I am actually impressed
You got the sub purely based on how well your presentation was awesome video great job being so informative
Woah, i just found a +2holy shock +3holy shield one hand scepter, does that count??
Sure does. Roll a CTA!
Coooley well if it is a war scepter then maybe 😀 the other 2 cannot get 5 open sockets!
Its only the 3socket variant =/
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@@Patchworkpalsandanimanimal2024 4os for cta? hmmmmmmmhhmmhhhmmhmhmhmhmmhhmhmhmmhmhmhmmhmhmhmmhhm
What's the mod for the stash for multiple tabs?
The only bugged item I ever remember "finding" was an Eth bugged Shaftstop but it bugged in the wrong direction...I upped it to Boneweave but the armor value stayed the same as Mesh armor D:
Dude,these videos are so welcome and refreshing. thank you! subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
I have been wondering and researching / discussing the holy shield scepter thing for a while now trying to get to the bottom of it.
I'm a bit confused still.
You say the mods are not supposed to spawn on class-specific items. But a scepter is not class-specific;
but what you're saying is, the game tried to roll mods 6 times on the scepter before giving it holy shield, what are the mods that it tried to roll 6 times?
Holy shield 6 times in a row I guess? haha
It would have to roll a "Forbidden Skill" 6 times in a row. So either HS or Smite would have to be rolled every single time :)
Crazy, didn't know about the scepter 😄
your PVP stuff is cool, but those kind of videos you make are THE BEST !!! I love being surprised by D2 obscure stuff
Thanks, man. That means a lot! Crazy how much has been learned (and forgotten) about this ancient game over the years
This video is 4 years old, but I'm disappointed it didn't include the durability bug on magic items too, which occurs when an item rolls as a set but there's no corresponding set item
if we socket a zod rune into an opened ethereal armor (grey) and later on unsocket it.. does the indestructable property remain with the armor ?
If you did this in early 1.10, then yes :)
5:32 deleting skill from list of possible rolls seems like obvious solution imo.
Great content man. Keep up
Extra durability weapons are really nice in D2 Classic for whirlwind barb. Especially after 1.10 when they increased the amount of hits WW does.
A rare lance with 75 durability vs the default 25.
Though I'm not sure why it spawns 75, back in the pre-LoD it used to spawn 255 or something.
How it worked back then is that you would carry a Unique pike with you in the game and when ever the game tried to roll a unique pike it would fail and reroll to possible Rare Lance with 5x durability.
Back then uniques could only exist once in the game, which is why it was very easy to gamble SoJ's also. Keep Nagel and Manald and every unique you gamble would be SoJ (just remember to mule them away). Gambling could roll uniques with 3-5% chance..
Do the zod rune still works in ebugged items? 🤔
yes
I remember when I played years ago, hacked/bugged harlequins crest (Shako) existed. They were hacked in such a way, that they had 2 or 3 sockets. The 3 socket one didn't even look like a Shako but rather that crown-looking helm. Yes, this was on *closed* bnet. I remember because I traded literally everything I had of value for one. And I had a ton of gear. I lived and breathed Diablo 2 as an (at the time) unemployed, living in my parents basement type supernerd. The norm was putting IST runes in it to increase MF.
I haven't been able to find any info about it at all, which really annoys me, because noone believes me! :(
That's because that's impossible
@@adamcarr4989 Just like these bugged items are "impossible". If someone told me about the items in this video, without showing them to me, I'd say THAT was impossible as well.
It had something to do with merging items. It was like a mix of Crown of Ages and Harle. The stats were all messed up. But it had most of the Harle stats.
Funny, I had made a post on a few of these the other day.
Another fun idea for a video: far casting
Love these videos, thanks for making them!
Can't you still in 1.14 make an Oath runeword that gives indestructible, then remove it and the item will stay indestructible?
It's been many years since I last played. Is plugy useable in online Diablo? If not, then how you keep all your stuff with the small space within the game?
Plugy is not for multiplayer, unfortunately. Most people still use "Mules" to store their stuff on the Realms!
@@Coooley I see. That's tough. I remember those days where you'll have to choose between throwing a nice charm or a nice rune word. The horror.
This probably isn't a bug but it seems like it to me. A few years ago i got an amulet with +3 to traps and i believe 25 charges of lvl 2 teleport. I haven't seen another amulet like that since. Maybe i was just really lucky that day.
These can still spawn. No bug. Just rare
i trye zod rune + clear in plugy but is not work . .
What about rare amulets with 2 class skills
1 to barbarian skills 1 to sorc skills.. I have found a couple on ladder
Hey can you talk about the bugg cat eye please the item that give u infinity vit
@Coooley Help please!! I gambled for a pair of gloves in Nightmare, and it rolled with Fire and Cold res. When i put them on, All my resistances go from low 10-30 all the way up too 75%. Meaning i seem to get 40-50 all res from them. I also get way more sheet armor than im supposed too from them. Im supposed to get only 11, but the sheet shows an increase of 50 extra armor. Can i trust the sheet character screen, or is it just showing more than im acutally getting. From gameplay it doesnt feel like i am topped up on res.
Do the gloves have any +strength on them?
When you take off the gambled gloves, does any of your other equipped armor suddenly appear red? Is your strength score lower than the strength requirement to equip your other armor pieces?
It may be the case that you don't have enough strength to naturally equip all your gear, but at some point you had gear that provided enough +strength to equip everything. At some point you removed that +strength gear, so while the armor stayed in your inventory slot, you don't actually get any stat benefit out of it and the item appears red. So if your gloves give you enough strength to wear the rest of your gear, suddenly you'll see the benefits of your gloves + whatever armor you didn't qualify for show up in your character sheet at the same time when you put the gloves on.
@@-Keith- Thanx for answering. Yes the gloves have +2 strength on them. I think that might be it. I kept playing, and after a while its back to normal. I think it might have been my armor. It had high Str requirement at the time. Was starting to wonder if the gloves had hidden stats or something.
FYI, from a streamer to a streamer/channel operator... create a visual 'deflection', your chest at a slight angle, to limit anxiety/viewer-exhaustion when 'squaring up' shoulder line to shoulder line, directly facing one another.
Do a 15-second long rendition of the same recording, with each type of positioning. It's not that we don't want you to feel as if you're about to lean in and slowly make-out with us (lol, all joking aside, it's the same anxiety your brain sources it from)... it's simply just how it is. Give it a shot, you may be surprised how much easier it is to watch and, even more important, absorb your content.
Otherwise, the first time I've interacted with your channel aside from a sub (oh shit, I'm JUST now doing so? yikes..) I THOUGHT I had done a while back. Great content, keep it up!!!
Thank you for this feedback! I did recently order a new green screen. Previously, I had just painted my back wall green (LOL!). But in order to get a better angle (and not have to paint the floor green too), we had to step it up. What do you stream?? Thanks again, Chad!
Bro, this is just weird. Like, I would be MORE than insulted hearing this. Just let the man do him and you do you. No need to bring unnecessary, petty comments in trying to act like a hotshot. Just look stupid by claiming this made up scientific fact 😑🤔😑🤔
@@adamcarr4989 Act like a hotshot? lol.. What are you talking about? Its perfectly sound and legitimate advice. I never claimed to make better content, complimented the hell out of what he does... wtf are you talking about, guy? lol.
This is the shit that's wrong with the world, everyone is so ready to be offended and attack... I suggested the man turn like... 5-8 degrees... lol... *insert grandma 'wut' meme*
@@adamcarr4989 GG, GD.
And you don't think telling someone to move 5-8 degrees is a weird prospect? GG, GD? and I'm the one trying to act like a hotshot? "This is what's wrong with the world hurr durrr" you're such an idiot and you can't even see it, classic!
Dude this is awesome! Where have you beeddn
Subscribing to you bro, I find it hard to learn new stuff about this game and this video contained nothing but that. Great stuff!
cooley has the best diablo content
do you possibly refer ro pre 1.11, i case for the cta scepter?
i just checked on this one, because i remembered scepters not beging legit for the rw.
wiki says: ALL weapons up to 1.10. anyway - kicks butt :)
nice videos..
I'm still playing D2 LoD! Would you recommend playing Diablo 2 Original? I remember there were better rares...
I have a SUPERIOR necro demon head.. With
+2 bone armor
+2 bone spear
+1 bone wall and prison
+2 to bone spirit
With
Rune Words +2 to necro skills/ skill..
It's very rare when you got it on Solo farming drops the SUPERIOR HEAD.. ❤️
I did find a non-magic staff with 3 sockets a +3 to light master. Not bugged but it seemed rare.
Do any of these work in d2R
Great video. Made me mad tho. I’ve rolled ten thousand of sceptres looking for 2/3/3 on my plugy and never cared about anything else. Maybe I rolled a godly item and handed it to charsi.
cooley do you think its to expensive to make characters that can kill high armor classes like dins or do you think its fair? i hate the amount of time i put on my ghost sin that can barley hit a pally but my mfdin can join a duel game and start killing everyone
I'd use your traps more (if you've skill them) and MB the hell out of an hdin. Open Wounds is a hell of a drug, too, for those "grindy" duels.
Coooley is the GOAT . Cool video bro :)
Remember when .10 came out i took the zod out of my very first arcaines valor I found off Hell pindle with ITH sword barb. it was a +2 barb +2 druid eth valor. Kept the indestructible mod. GG video.
What about small charms with ridiculous amount of poison damage?
They aren’t bugged. You get the duration of the prefix and suffix added together, then the DPS of each mid is added up for the total. They’re only good in duels, worthless PvM.
The crazy thing is when you find two low level mods, it’s enough poison to actually kill at lower levels.
I still play d2 to this day although its median xl now
I remember having finding holy shield scepters but yeah, had far more whirlwind helms over the years.
Always knew to look for them, but not how it actually worked with the code and the engine.
On E-bug, I see that has an happy little accident since it gave value to some bases, same for zod bug in conjunction for non-self-repair, non-indestructible items.
Now, could you explain how taking the Horadric Staff past act 2 bug worked? did it accidentally a few times.
And once I went back to town using the portal Deckard Cain creates and it became permanent, never heard of anyone doing that and my friends thought I was bullshitting them, tried many times but could never recreate it. Maybe very specific 1 frame 1 pixel click or something. Probably more bugs Im forgetting, but there's a video idea, could also include old skill bugs in it like bone wall farming. Good luck getting footage for most of them though, Im not sure I even have the screens from my older drives anymore.
Back in patch 1.09, I distinctly remember a unique Aegis (!!!?) dropping from cows. This was during the height of one of the public dupe exploits that made the servers incredibly laggy - actually playing was incredibly painful as you kept desynching, but we were 12 years old and completely obsessed with Diablo. Anyway, the reason a unique Aegis is weird is it should not have dropped in that patch at all. There was no unique Aegis in 1.09. In 1.08, it was a Stormshield, and in 1.10+, it was a Medusa's Gaze. But 1.09 was a patch that did not have a unique Aegis at all! A schoolmate of mine picked it up before I managed to get to it, and I tried to convince him to identify it to see what it was, but he decided to sell it as an "unid 08 Stormshield" (which it almost certainly wasn't). I assume it was another unique that the servers spawned with the wrong item base, due to a bit flipping somewhere in memory. Computers aren't 100% reliable, and Blizzard likely did not spend extra money to get enterprise-class hardware with ECC memory. Anyway, so I makes me wonder if some of the commonly-duped bugged items that had the properties of a unique or set, but with the wrong base (such as the Occulus ring, for example) might have been a legitimately found drop, when playing on server with ever-so-slightly unstable hardware.
Didn't see you already have a video about these. Comes to think of it, it actually did drop from Mephisto rather than cows.
How many of these are going to persist after the reboot?
Supposedly all of them
Nice vid. Can you do bugged monsters that aren't supposed to exist next? 😁
I wonder how many of these bugs work still on D2R ...
love ur build videos. Could you make an es cold sorc build video?
Wonder if my Eth Zod'd Valor still around 🤔 would be Captain Redeyes Valor lol used to b godly
Should probably check before it expires! (if it hasn't already) :(
hi Coooley, i like your videos! You told me some useful infos even to a vetaran player like me who playing Diablo 2 since october 2003, good job! Now, can i have a question please?; is it possible to find a +3 to 'Conviction' AND +3 to 'Fist of the Heavens' AND +3 to 'Holy Shield' War Scepter or Divine Scepter or Caduceus, 0 or 5 socketed ( for cta ), preferably with 15 % ed 3 ar? Best i saw ingame so far was 1-3-3 non-superior war scepter cta663 inside, but that was years ago. So, my concrete question is that nowadays still possible to find such things? Thank you in advance ! Subbed ofc !
Thanks man! Glad you're liking the videos. I'm actually not sure if this is possible. I know that the skills that spawn on these scepters tend to be in the same "tier". It'd be rare to see HS mixed in with lvl 30 skills (if it's even possible). Hope this helps! Thanks for the sub
just making a correction, game engines wont stop you from making infinite loops, they just added a protection for it that was bugged
I am proud of having found a white barb helm with 2ww and 2 bo for my lld barbarian. Thanks for the video I didn’t know that :)
This just popped up outta nowhere..so you know offa GP im watching it all ❤❤😂😂
Aaahh, the durability bug! I remember when the item would have rolled a set it had double durability, and triple if it rolled unique (but obviously haven't got a set/unique version).
I’m pretty sure it’s a lie though.
As in- non ladder, a diadem is more likely to spawn with triple dura than a diadem is to spawn unique in ladder.
The quality or some sort of item level restriction doesn’t exist
@@chrisp2272 Griffon's Eye has an ilvl of 84, so it can be dropped only in a couple of areas. That explains the existence of triple dura Diadems. Never really played nl, so I don't have any experience about that. What do you mean by "more likely to spawn"? Do you have exact numbers extracted from the MPQ files, or is it just personal experience? Because the latter can be very misleading - you just don't have enough time to collect a big enough statistical sample to safely say something like this.
@@hungarianheroes
Diadems are of such a high base item level, that anywhere that they can drop can probably also drop the unique version (if you’re playing ladder). People spend most of their time in area 85 places anyway. Or places that elite packs get the level boost to drop all the items.
What I failed to say clearly: I’m not 100% sure if all the triple dura diadems you find on non ladder had the same “impossible” item roll of a Griff’s or not. It seems as though I find more failed uniques in less time playing non ladder than I find the actual item on ladder. Leading me to believe something in the item generation calculation is different in instances in which an item can’t drop.
Most of the item generation tutorials you can find are paraphrased and aren’t answering the specific question about triple dura. It looks like I might just be making this up (watch some of the “5K pit runs” vids out there to see the differing numbers of extremely rare items that drop. The first 5k will find 3 Griffs and no CoA then they’ll find 1 Griffs and 5 CoA the next 5K runs; you’d need to do millions of runs to get the actual average).
@@chrisp2272 Thanks for the answer. I had to recheck something before answering because I haven't played D2 lately. Griffon's Eye is a Ladder-only item, which pretty much explains why are much more common triple dura rare diadems in non-ladder than in ladder.
@@hungarianheroes
No sweat.
I’m not sure my speculation is true or not, but I pretend that triple dura drops a lot more often so that I don’t feel robbed when it happens.
A fun collecting game: find triple dura of items like breast plate. Or chain mail. You have to find the unique in a game then find the rare in the same game for it to happen. Some items are easier than others, I’ve definitely found a triple dura and unique breast played from norm diablo himself
I play long time ago D2 and I remembers me about an elixir they give +1 on all attributes also stamina dexterity etc , this elixir was build with the horadric Cube , someone now how ?
You were probably playing a modded client. There were no stat elixirs at any point in the game in D2 or D2x. There was a quest in act 3 that gave you 5 free stat points after turning in a book to an NPC, but that's it.
Act 1 had +1 skill point from den of evil and an item imbue from finding the horadric malus.
Act 2 had +1 skill point from sewers level 3.
Act 3 had +5 attribute points from Lam esan's tome and a permanent +20 HP boost for the golden bird statue quest.
Act 4 had +2 skill points from killing Izual.
Act 5 had +10 resist all (permanent buff) for saving Anya, a free item socket for killing Shenk the Overseer, and an item personalization for killing Nihlathak.
@@-Keith- Never Play Modded Client always original
I can remember you need 2 unique item and something more
@@francocadinot5081 You're mistaken, it doesn't exist. I used to make mods for D2, trust me here. There were never stat boosting elixirs in vanilla D2 or D2x at any point, ever. Only in mods. The only consumable potion that increased any stats was the quest potion from act 3 quest 1 to boost HP. You can prove this by downloading an MPQ extractor and extracting CubeMain.txt, then pasting the contents into a spreadsheet editor in tab separated value format. That file lists every horadric cube recipe that exists in the game. Or you can check out classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml for the official site's recipe list.