Diablo 2: Andariel Bug, Drop Comparison (WORTH IT!?)

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  • A comparison of drop rates for the Andariel Bug in Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction. 99 Runs with the bug and 99 runs without, at zero magic find in normal difficulty to really expose the base difference in the game mechanics.
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  • @KillrobPlays
    @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Just to be very clear, many of you don't seem to listen to or believe what I say - the following series of actions ALSO triggers the Andariel bug:
    Kill her, go home through YOUR portal, talk to EVERYONE in town, travel east, talk to EVERYONE in town there, go to the sewers, then save and exit. Boom, Andariel bug triggered. The "don't use your own portal" and "don't talk to anyone" stuff is nonsense. It's just not true and I tried all kinds of variants to not trigger the bug.
    The only important factor is to talk to Warriv after you killed her, BEFORE you safe and exit.
    Cheers guys!

    • @agguh688
      @agguh688 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like how everyone has their own version how to bug Andariel :D
      Good video!

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Haha yes! And most of them are correct, the only issue is that they don't know why it is correct xD

    • @nightworg
      @nightworg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for clearing this out. The internet is full of false information. I thought I had f..... up because I was ultra poisoned and talked to Akara first.

    • @kylemenos
      @kylemenos 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the definite answers here. i thought she could be unbugged when i got a no drop from her awhile back.

    • @nosirrahx
      @nosirrahx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is astonishing that this old bug is still being debated. Killrob is right and so are the the 500 places this same info is posted.

  • @noobtubegaming7979
    @noobtubegaming7979 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Experiments like this is why i love your channel!

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All ze löve! Cheers man :)

  • @Irmarinen
    @Irmarinen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Oh, I'm first, better make a joke!
    How do you know andariel is a feminist?
    You can trigger her by talking to a man.
    *Triggered*

    • @quagmier3
      @quagmier3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice joke. Seems so true.

    • @Kitties_are_pretty
      @Kitties_are_pretty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why does the whole internet have to be like this?

    • @brandonkellner2920
      @brandonkellner2920 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Joshua, even if you're a feminist, you have to admit that joke worked really well.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bechdel Test failed! xD Bäd bäd misogynist video gayme!

    • @Kitties_are_pretty
      @Kitties_are_pretty 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not a feminist, I hate feminists. This shit just got old two years ago. The only people talking about trigger warnings anymore are people complaining about them.

  • @mysidianbard5890
    @mysidianbard5890 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always wondered about this myself, thanks for making the vid!

  • @Jiggerjaw
    @Jiggerjaw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Killrob, I got into an argument on a DJ vid about how to trigger this, and I fully trust that you know what you're talking about when you say how to properly do it! Also, nice Clinton Cameo. ;)

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't trust myself or anyone, so I actually tried out all kinds of variants to trigger it or not :) turned out it really is only about Warriv, fortunately enough, so it is triggered by default! Cheers mate

  • @seedcow
    @seedcow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First off I love seeing info like this about Diablo 2, so thank you for making the video.
    But why were you annunciating like that? It sounded like you were purposely trying to talk slowly and drag your sentences out.. I found it very hard to keep listening.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess it's my script reading voice you mean. just watch the video at 1.25x speed or something to get rid of that if it annoys you but you still like the info :) there are controls for that in the video settings.

    • @thomasmoncrief26
      @thomasmoncrief26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays you sound like you're rehearsing to be a constipated news reporter.

  • @LilPlaya3200
    @LilPlaya3200 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do you think it has to do with the "quest drop table" being stuck activated? I'm sure you know the first time you kill a boss it gives you better drops. Do you think this "bug" keeps it so its like you kill her for the first time, everytime?
    Keep up the great work man! Love the vids, and the gambling one you did w/ DJ waters was on point! Much love!

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, that is what I thought, but that too is not the case :) because on first kill for the quest drop she always drops one normal gem and two chipped gems. In the bugged state she doesn't drop any gems. So it is not the first kill loot table being stuck, I think what is stuck is the item quality multiplier - but maybe that is what you meant? :) Cheers!

  • @riesabass
    @riesabass 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this vid, Rob! And one thing... For me this is a bug because all my life, after killing Andy i was making my own tp and going to Cain first ;v same pattern for 15yrs... That's why i've asked you for this comparison :x

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That doesn't matter. I went through my own portal, talked to EVERYONE in town, and last to Warriv and traveled East, boom, Andariel bug.

  • @IcyNipz
    @IcyNipz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to know, I always killed her then used my own TP. Then talked to Akara to sell items/talk to warriv and save/exit. One thing to note on normal mode she will mainly drop some blue/mainly all rare items. If you bug on NM she is very likely to drop unique rings

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nightmare Andy is the best place to find an SOJ, yes :)

  • @NotYoFriendGuy
    @NotYoFriendGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was neat to see. I would love to see an analysis of NM or Hell Andy as well! :) It's not like it's a huge time sink. ;)
    Cool video!

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The point is that the outcome is the same :) this works for all difficulties! I chose Normal because of how quick it is to run and test the two variants.

    • @NotYoFriendGuy
      @NotYoFriendGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays I figured it would be similar with the same bug existing in all difficulties. Thanks for the reply!

  • @aliencatcrew3336
    @aliencatcrew3336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    From run 16 to 54 NOTHING. HOLY CRAP!!!

  • @1993alik
    @1993alik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    damn it i need to play diablo 2 again

  • @Semirotta
    @Semirotta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason I feel like it's not really a "bug". It just simply "upgrades" your character data so the drops are better the next time. But if you don't trigger the "upgrade" via exiting and saving without talking = you stay in the early game state.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yes :D also, if normally playing the game means that you trigger this "bug" that has existed for so many years, then I'm even more inclined to calling this a feature.

    • @Semirotta
      @Semirotta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed.

  • @zephyrblue2032
    @zephyrblue2032 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the info. Also, I have to say that I like your insight into Hillary Clinton's character. She rates right up there (or should I say 'down there') with Diablo in my view. Gave me quite a giggle seeing her face next to my fave Boss monster.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She sure does fit there right next to Baal! :P
      Cheers!

  • @seancloser
    @seancloser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice experiment, I subscribed.

  • @arnauddeniger802
    @arnauddeniger802 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i swear to god the last time i killed duriel on hell difficulty for the first time on one of my pluggy chars he dropped 5 scrolls of tp. i was in shock

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha xD let's assume that is 100% true, that would probably still mean that you are the only one to ever have seen that happen as it is soooo low probability :D cheers!

    • @tuushuu
      @tuushuu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays this actually happened to me too the other day during a 8 player tombrun 😯😮

    • @graoumpaou2553
      @graoumpaou2553 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He gave me town portals only its not that rare "called bad luck"

  • @prdiludi4432
    @prdiludi4432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'i like it so much, NOT' find this bit hilarious when you say it :D

  • @alexalex3530
    @alexalex3530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! Thanks for the vid. :D Btw would like to ask: After i trigger the bug. I must talk to warriv each run? I mean what if i not talk to warriv at the next run? Does that cancel the bug? Or i can save and exit in the catacombs after killing her before entering town or talking to warriv?
    Thanks for the answers.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you have triggered the bug and the quest has gone into "completed" state, the bug is always on from that point forward. The only thing I have not tried is if changing difficulty (i.e. rerolling maps and such) resets the bug.

    • @alexalex3530
      @alexalex3530 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much :)

    • @amai2307
      @amai2307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays so if i bug normal, then go to nightmare, and come back to normal - it resets the bug?

  • @haberdasherfetishist7208
    @haberdasherfetishist7208 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm glad I found out about this in time to avoid it and save myself from FILTHY HAXXOR-dom.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha the hax is normal gameplay, so I'd not worry too much :P

  • @xCendwar
    @xCendwar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    FWIW Rune drops are completely independent of whether you bug Andy or not (and MF in general).

  • @aliencatcrew3336
    @aliencatcrew3336 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait these runs in the beginning WITHOUT the bug??? Also. What are the chances BEFORE KILLING andarial the very first time??

  • @savedbychristsavedbygrace2049
    @savedbychristsavedbygrace2049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I found a nagel at my 4th run I'm lucky as shitz.

  • @meddle
    @meddle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can say with 100% confidence that bugged Andy (as well as other act quest kills) is guaranteed to drop rare or better. All magic items are failed sets and uniques, indicated by their larger than normal durability. I like to farm glitched Mephisto, the pit and ancient tunnels in Baal runs.
    Edit: Failed Uniques become Rares.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, that is interesting. So charms that drop should have been rares or uniques if they existed, too?

    • @meddle
      @meddle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charms must be an exception, otherwise Gheed's unique grand charm would drop every single time it was allowed.
      Sorry, my first statement was partially incorrect: All Magic items (other than charms of course) are failed Set items. SOME Rare items are failed Unique items. Failed Unique Rares can be identified by their Tripled Durability. Failed Set Magic items can be identified by their Doubled Durability.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, that would make sense, but considering how many magic items I found on average that would be quite the amount of set items trying to be generated :) would have been interesting to check their durability to see where they are coming from! Cheers

    • @meddle
      @meddle 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of your non-bugged kills must've been failed sets too, as you found more uniques than sets. Sets are more likely to *roll* than uniques, but much less likely to _exist_ in the first place. It's too bad we don't know how many of your magic drops were failed rares (charms), but great job on the runs and the record! Cheers

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good points :) cheers man!

  • @Music6490
    @Music6490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you speak to towns people after you've ''killed andariel, talked to warriv then saved and exit'' and the bug will still be there?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a read of my pinned comment, it addresses that!

  • @schwarzerritter5724
    @schwarzerritter5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know the bugged state is not the normal state and what you think is not the bugged state?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I commented on that in the video, did I not? :) I'm of the opinion that the "bugged state" should be considered the normal state.

  • @FailBanana98
    @FailBanana98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep... After watching this video I can definetly say I did it, on accident but I did it

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like most people I would assume :D cheers!

  • @hellinterface6721
    @hellinterface6721 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:27 I'm new to d2 LoD . In classic, uniques are generally a;ways trash.. What's the unique scimitar you hovered over that is so good?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Arreat Summit has tons of useful info for you :) see here in regards to your question classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/normal/uswords.shtml

  • @RenkoBocchi
    @RenkoBocchi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does this bug only affects Andariel's drop chance and not other mobs/bosses?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only Andariel's drop chances are affected.

    • @RenkoBocchi
      @RenkoBocchi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays does this work on nightmare/hell runs as well?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that is why I'm doing this hehe, only in Normal would make no sense whatsoever, unless you're really after those low quality uniques xD

    • @RenkoBocchi
      @RenkoBocchi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays You're so informative. Thank you so much. ^_^)/

  • @AvatarOfGames
    @AvatarOfGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On normal theres not that much reason to worry about it. On hell difficulty and even nightmare, being able to double the unique drop chances is sooooo worth it. Either way its easy enough to do.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, absolutely :) same rules apply for Nightmare and Hell, hence why the effect can be shown on Normal :D

  • @joelhodoborgas
    @joelhodoborgas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid, cheers.

  • @Subxenox15
    @Subxenox15 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you talk to ANYONE else before Warriv as well the bug won't trigger. Pretty sure.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tested that, not true. Read my pinned post :)

  • @Haydezzz
    @Haydezzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you have to "go east" after every run or just the first time?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just the first time fortunately! :)

    • @Haydezzz
      @Haydezzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays cheers!

  • @Derzull2468
    @Derzull2468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real question is why 99 and not 100?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D Because it triggers OCD and thus is a little nudge to go out there and do the last run yourself to complete it. Cheers!

    • @Derzull2468
      @Derzull2468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays Yeah, it also skews all your stats, hahaha!
      You drop 3 Shako on 100 runs, you could say 3% but now you can't 😂

  • @s_gaming71
    @s_gaming71 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like theres one important that you didnt explain in this video ... WHAT IS the Andariel Bug ?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the video made that obvious :) it is "a difference in future drop chances depending on actions after you kill Andariel"

    • @s_gaming71
      @s_gaming71 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do understand the bug makes it so andys drops are usually better with the bug than without .. but what causes the bug ? Why does this happen ?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Talking to Warriv after you kill Andariel the first time on that difficulty" causes the "bug" (I'd say it's a feature).
      "Not talking to Warriv after you kill Andariel the first time on that difficulty, doing save & exit" makes that the "bug" doesn't happen.

  • @noeperard8843
    @noeperard8843 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question, can you trigger the bug if you failed to do so in the first place ?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you've failed to trigger the bug you can't get it back, no.

  • @frankenstein3163
    @frankenstein3163 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    so do I have to save and exit in act 2 or can I go all the way thru the difaculty ?
    Also dont you have too wait until the automatic Town Portal appears and take it ?(non character tp)

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like I say in the video and in the pinned comment here (check it out :) the only thing that needs to be done is to talk to Warriv after killing Andariel, nothing else matters. The only way to not trigger the bug is to save & exit after killing her before talking to Warriv.

  • @JeffBarberDigideus
    @JeffBarberDigideus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do andarial runs? Maybe mega early normal game level and items but does the drop rate matter once you get to nightmare and hell runs?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Highest chance to get a SOJ in Nightmare, and can drop some good stuff in Hell, too, while being an easy kill for the most part.

  • @eclap78
    @eclap78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to clarify, if I don't bug Andy on Normal, I can still do it on NM and Hell?

  • @MattieDiesel
    @MattieDiesel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    might as well do it on a strong char in hell, to really show us how effected the drop rate of her desirable drops are and not just normal difficulty drops

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would take a lot more time though, and the resulting numbers and ratios would be very similar; i.e. not worth the effort for me :)

    • @MattieDiesel
      @MattieDiesel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well i mean if you had a high lvl char it would arguably take nearly the same time, she can nearly be 1 hit. Not every unique/rare is a desired one and the ratios change pending on difficulty. I don't know anyone farming hundreds of normal andariels but I know plenty ppl farming hell andariel. Solely because her only long-term sought after items only drop in hell. Couple decent items in NM. Just about everything here is useless after act 2 normal due to the amount of superior options inevitably occuring

  • @venusRTS
    @venusRTS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that's some decent frw and fcr for lvl 19 :')

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha yes, feels OP as fuck :D

  • @mr.kobayashi1675
    @mr.kobayashi1675 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    IgNoble for you! ;)
    Good content, well done bro!

  • @baboom007
    @baboom007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok but can this bug be re-triggered? I didn't knew this before and i am on Hell Act V. Can i trigger the bug now?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the bug cannot be re-triggered. You either have it or not. But the data shown herein gives you an easy comparison to check if you triggered it or not :) most likely you did, it is kinda hard to avoid :P

  • @frankenstein3163
    @frankenstein3163 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just did my second kill and literally no items droped.. ;) does glitch andy drop gold coins ? I did 5 runs and only saw rare items and maybe some gold coins.

    • @magik7675
      @magik7675 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.Potions ,keys etc. Normal non buged can have 18% chance for non drop.

  • @hapanue
    @hapanue 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello can you help me? I've started the new season last weekend, Idont remember if i did it on Normal difficulty, however I gonna do this on nightmare. If i didnt bug my andy normal, will it work on nightmare?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It works for every difficulty separately, yes. No idea about multiplayer though, as that treats sessions in a different way that multiplayer :) you'll find out I guess!

  • @alexanderdrechsel6858
    @alexanderdrechsel6858 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happens if you bugged andariel in classic and convert the char? still bugged?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha no idea if the bug even existed in pre-LoD :) so I can't answer.

  • @cvetanvelinov4404
    @cvetanvelinov4404 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff thanks for the video!

  • @zzzlucid_dreams7560
    @zzzlucid_dreams7560 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused on how to activate every other video/website says use quest to and only talk to warriv and save and quit. Help??

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a read of the pinned comment by myself.

  • @marcello4258
    @marcello4258 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it only work in Single Player or also closed bnet?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only ever tried it in SP, I would assume it works the same way on bnet if you're the one creating the game, because that transfers your current quest status to the game you're in.

  • @Shiningforceking
    @Shiningforceking 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question; can you bug Andariel on nightmare and hell?
    Also if you keep going, lets say to act 3 can you come back and keep doing andy runs?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this applies to all difficulties.
      Yes, once bugged - always bugged. Don't know about multiplayer though, I assume it doesn't work there, but haven't tried.

    • @Shiningforceking
      @Shiningforceking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KillrobPlays thanks for the quick reply on a 1 year old video.
      Btw i subbed.
      So to make it clear, i can rush to hell ball and after keep doing andy forever, as long as i take a portal. Talk to warriv and" go to east"?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be correct!

    • @Necronomous
      @Necronomous 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays I can help you with that question. Yes, Andariel is bugged in multiplayer if your character is the one that creates the game, because it is your characters sheet that had Andariel bugged. Have helped some ppl doing bugged runs in Normal and Nightmare to get them better gear, therefor I know that it works.
      My record is on Nightmare, 3 unique 1 rare and 1 set item in Nightmare when I created bugged run with a higher MF at 300%. That she would not drop unbugged.

  • @tlking7488
    @tlking7488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No drops at all from normal bugged Andarial? thats funny :D but what about the other day when i did the first kill on Durial in hell mode on my assassin and he dropped …. 6 scrolls of teleport (only)

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The teleport scroll thing is a meme I've heard about ;) possible theoretically, but I would never believe you that hehe it is way too unlikely.

    • @tlking7488
      @tlking7488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays Damn didnt know about the meme. And if its so unlikely as you say i consider it as a rare drop :D

  • @samgonzalez7302
    @samgonzalez7302 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    does using /players8 command effect bugged andariel drops?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would think it affects her drops just the same way as other boss drops.

  • @David-ux5wn
    @David-ux5wn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well 99 runs is not that much to tell a difference. A bot on hell difficulty with 10000 runs should show statistically much more relevant results. And results that actually matter for item runs. Nobody runs Andariel on normal...

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not true. With the differences big enough the statistical significance is high, which is the case here. You need more than 30-ish runs (with drops every time) to get a Gaussian distribution and make the results significant. In this case it is shown beyond the 5-sigma confidence level I'm pretty sure. Not for uniques and sets mind you, but in general for there being a statistically significant difference.

    • @PeterGeras
      @PeterGeras 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      5 sigma? Are you willing to put your channel's credibility on the line by assuming that 1 in 3.5 million didn't happen? :)

    • @Jiggerjaw
      @Jiggerjaw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Somebody call Dbrunski.

  • @yagzhansutpnar7121
    @yagzhansutpnar7121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this happen in patch 1.14d???

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that is the patch I'm playing!

  • @Mediax5
    @Mediax5 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was pretty sure you had to use the portal that spawns after you kill andrial

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried messing it up that way, still bugged her... talked to everyone in town, went around in act 2 and talked to everyone, still bugged her.

    • @Mediax5
      @Mediax5 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know!

  • @americanmodern1
    @americanmodern1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when you log in clikc enter and type in /players 8

  • @NinjaSushi2
    @NinjaSushi2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:25 does open wounds work with aura damage?

  • @lolleonlolable
    @lolleonlolable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    but the question is:
    how does it work with mf ?
    im running bugged andy hell with 300% mf and i feel like she should drop way more stuff ?
    if feel like bugged andy is not affected by mf or somehting ?
    so maybe its better with mf to run non bugged ? im confused.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      MF just improves your drops, it works with both bugged and non-bugged Andy as you'd expect, on any difficulty level. You're maybe just expecting too much or somehow didn't bug her? :) But that would be easy to see by looking at what she drops (gold, scrolls).

    • @lolleonlolable
      @lolleonlolable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays does she drop that much less than meph? when i see ppl mepping they almost always drop like one set once unique, im running her with almost 300 mf and she bearly drops anything :/

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lolleonlolable So are you sure you bugged her? If yes, then it is your perception that is skewed. :) Mephisto is in general a better target to run for sure.

  • @juliclaircagape82
    @juliclaircagape82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bugged version? how? xD

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      By going east after killing Andariel for the first time, that's how. Then she's bugged forever.

  • @damnitdave89
    @damnitdave89 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video!

  • @jwest88
    @jwest88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to do Andariel runs every playthrough and then Mephisto runs to try and get sigons belt boots and gloves for melee characters.
    When I heard about this bug recently I was kind of bummed and thought I'd been missing out all that time; thanks for the clarification that by default the bug is usually activated.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I was worried too, which is why I went on this investigation :D cheers!

  • @nathanarnold8752
    @nathanarnold8752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked for 'nothing-burgers'

  • @eduardodelpilardiazdelgado5676
    @eduardodelpilardiazdelgado5676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ty very much!!!

  • @NeverhoodZZ
    @NeverhoodZZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude, this is crazy, but it doesn't work for me (1.14d patch)

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So how do you know it doesn't work? :)

    • @NeverhoodZZ
      @NeverhoodZZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, i've talked to Warriv right after killing Andariel and then opened a quest tab and quest was marked as completed. I've also tried these other actions, like going east, talking to everyone there and so on. To my understanding it's that an actual quest should stay unfinished? Thanks for replying btw

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, the quest does not stay as unfinished :) you have triggered the bug, that is why I was asking, you misunderstood what to look for. The only difference you see is in what is being dropped, other than that it looks completely normal.

    • @NeverhoodZZ
      @NeverhoodZZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      just checked drops a couple of times and it looks like you're right! Thanks a lot!

  • @atsz.
    @atsz. 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it work on nightmare and hell?

  • @maxjiro25
    @maxjiro25 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had burger king last night, ill make u a drop diary to if you want

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only take XXL sized diary dumps!

  • @LaddRusso91
    @LaddRusso91 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you tell when weather she`s bugged or not?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If she ever drops piles of money or potions you know you failed to bug her :)

    • @LaddRusso91
      @LaddRusso91 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.

  • @gllmusic
    @gllmusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this work on Nightmare/players=8 to get tons of SOJ's?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It works on all difficulties and player settings, although I'd suggest to keep it low players when the bug is on. :)

    • @D2ezbmu
      @D2ezbmu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      KillrobPlays this is SP only?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh, good question, no idea actually, as I don't play multiplayer. It is a little different as each time you play the game is reset. I mean you could give it a try in normal difficulty, see if you can manage to bug her or not :) with the stats in this video it should be reasonably easy to figure out which state you're in. Cheers!

  • @Aracne80
    @Aracne80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one that like firewall over fireball?
    Ah, okay, is this the door out? I see myself out, thank you ...

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Firewall would be great if there were more doors that can't be opened along with bars on either side keeping the enemies out. :P

    • @Aracne80
      @Aracne80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays But it is kind of cool on the open field when you put out a firewall on your side just to see it rip thru the hordes and scorch them as they have to hunt you :)

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aracne80 Sure does, requires some good movement :)

  • @joaogaspar8964
    @joaogaspar8964 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    why 99 runes and not 100

    • @mongislort6440
      @mongislort6440 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So to not only trigger the Andariel bug but also trigger those with OCD.
      Triggered yet? I thought so.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha exactly! :D The OCD triggering is always fun! "Hnnngg just one more run to make it a nice nuuuumber". Cheers guys!

  • @SilentJoNn
    @SilentJoNn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:50 you said glegclaw lol

  • @iamhello7923
    @iamhello7923 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carsaras Iron Hear?
    What the holy shit is that?

  • @single0player
    @single0player 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funktioniert das auch In hölle?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Funktioniert in allen Schwierigkeitsgraden.

  • @WayneTwitch
    @WayneTwitch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do this when u can just hack it

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why work when you can just steal it?
      Why care about anything when you don't have to?
      Important questions for sure, I don't have an answer for you.

  • @moutonguerrier
    @moutonguerrier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If she was bugged, then she will never drop any gold.

  • @darrenwoods9990
    @darrenwoods9990 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol just realised your a classic player lol not LOD if I come back I'll play classic

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I played both for the channel as I have the classic V1.0 without any patches :) pretty interesting!

  • @Leedender
    @Leedender 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    is this already patched?

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was playing the latest version when making the video, so you can check if this has been addressed in any potential patches that may have come out since :)

    • @Leedender
      @Leedender 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlaysthank you

  • @djwaters22
    @djwaters22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andy bug for life!

  • @mikediscipleofJesusChrist
    @mikediscipleofJesusChrist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is hillary there wtf LOL

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      :P You'd see if you google "Hillary Clinton What difference does it make"

  • @zachsmith8967
    @zachsmith8967 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like it isnt worth it

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to find SoJs then it certainly is a necessity though.

  • @ekoms108
    @ekoms108 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is your accent fake? Like it sounds all over the place

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is all over the place because I have been all over the place: native German, lived in Sweden for 11 years, taught (in English) at university, worked at an international lab for 5 years, worked with two Australians for 5 years and still do today. So nothing fake about the accent, just a funny mix.

    • @qnst406
      @qnst406 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KillrobPlays sehr interessanter Werdegang

  • @gedziq
    @gedziq 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job

  • @tulllyy
    @tulllyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you speak to everyone like you do in this video? just trying to imagine you talking to the police after an incident.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is just how I speak when doing a scripted video, my normal Let's Play's are closer to what I normally sound like :P

    • @tulllyy
      @tulllyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays righto

  • @virgo4200
    @virgo4200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao I love the pic of Andy and Hillary Clinton perfect fit

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      xD yeah, "what difference does it make?!" famous line, fitting with some of the prime evils in the background.

  • @MrAsheBird
    @MrAsheBird 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    normal runs.... at lvl 19.... shame on u

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For efficiency reasons, you might be missing the point of the video xD

  • @Circ00mspice
    @Circ00mspice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two runewards dropped for me first time I killed her

  • @coconutbliss1444
    @coconutbliss1444 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    perhaps never triggerid it, aways had a portal created

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The portal is irrelevant to triggering it.

  • @Passenger-nj7in
    @Passenger-nj7in 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!

  • @bowlcut7214
    @bowlcut7214 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    BUT, how about hell? whos cares about normal :D

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is applicable for ALL difficulties, that is why I did it for Normal.

  • @vinhvan1008
    @vinhvan1008 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your voice ahah.

  • @GP-qb9hi
    @GP-qb9hi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who cares about normal difficulty... -.-

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one, and that isn't what the video is about in case you had not noticed :P this effect is the same on all difficulties.

  • @akaram325
    @akaram325 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m doin it! I’m really doin it!!
    ........sectually ;)

  • @lordkrythic6246
    @lordkrythic6246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    99 times is not a good sample size. You should have read about the Gamblers Fallacy before making this video. The preferred sample size when testing probability is upwards of 10,000 to 100,000 iterations. As an actual game developer, I always test my probability and loot tables with 100,000 iterations. Granted I can run this in less than a second, and it would take you exponentially longer to actually do 100k Andariel runs, I just wanted you to know that your results are going to be skewed due to the low sample size. Any numbers or results you come up with are going to be completely meaningless.
    Edit:
    6:52
    Like I said, these numbers are completely meaningless.

    • @lordkrythic6246
      @lordkrythic6246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KillrobPlays
      I wasn't trying to be an ass, I was just pointing out what I've learned via my education in the gaming industry. If you're going to turn helpful and positive feedback into flinging feces around, then consider this conversation over with. I was actually very interested in your video, and I even read my post back just to make sure that it wasn't coming off as being irreverent, which I don't think it was. It seems to me that you're incapable of accepting positive feedback; which I was merely relaying to you for the betterment of your channel. Do you not care about your content? I apologize if I offended you, because that was not my intention.
      However, everything that I have stated here is indeed accurate, and I'm not pulling credentials out of my ass; I really am a game developer. I worked on the original Syphon Filter games (the first 2), and Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow, and Chaos Theory. I currently work for Cerner developing database mechanisms for their consumers. Again, this was not my attempt to "compare the size of my dick", as you so eloquently put, I was just attempting to show validation in what I was about to tell you. Maybe I should have added more clarity.
      Regardless of how you respond, I appreciate your time.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were two problems with your post that made it seem ignorant and hostile to me:
      First is saying that what someone does is meaningless is very poor feedback unless you know for a fact what the person wants to achieve (for instance by asking them first). You know that from experience I'm sure.
      Second is that you actually are wrong, the difference in drops being due to statistical fluctuation would be a 12 sigma event for the rares. 5 sigma would mean 99.99994% confidence that the experiment has shown an actual difference between the test cases (the highest scientific standard to pass for experiments, if I remember correctly) - and we have 12 sigma, that is beyond any shadow of a doubt. The sets and uniques clear by only 1 sigma or slightly more though, so I would never say their differences are resolved, there is not enough statistics to make that claim here, but still it basically means that with around 70% confidence we can say that we have shown a difference in drop rate for those, too.
      I reacted to you pointing out that you are a game dev because that is irrelevant to the argument, just as it is irrelevant that I'm a PhD in experimental nuclear physics. Maths don't care, and if you need those qualifiers to make people believe you, maybe you shouldn't. Good and accurate arguments stand for themselves... I know I have fallen for that myself many times and had to eat big slices of humble pie.
      No apology needed! I quite enjoy the more ... vigorous exchanges ;-)
      Cheers

    • @lordkrythic6246
      @lordkrythic6246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KillrobPlays
      I'm not going to argue with you. However, if you have Visual Studio and brief knowledge of C#, I would be very happy to write you up a very quick demonstration showing Loot Tables, and even provide a way for you to execute them 100k times, and print the results. I already have the code written in my current project, so all it's going to require is for me to rip it out into a separate solution for you. You can see yourself then how skewed results can be with the incorrect number of sample sizes. It's up to you.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the offer, I'm currently working on writing a Countess Run Simulator (series on this channel) for which I had to learn how loot tables work, etc. So I'm aware. Doesn't change anything about what was said above though. You haven't eaten your humble pie yet (not addressed where you are misguided), so indeed I'm not going to argue with you further. Best of success with your project! Cheers!

    • @lordkrythic6246
      @lordkrythic6246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KillrobPlays
      I could see some loot table code as being a good addition to that. More of a visual representation of what you're going to be discussing. If you change your mind, just let me know. I can probably throw it all together in about an hour or so. I'm not sure why you're saying I'm not being humble though, I'm pretty sure I've remained calm throughout this entire ordeal...but it's irrelevant. Have a great day; just shoot me a message if you change your mind!

  • @alicevon-schott7872
    @alicevon-schott7872 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    war*iv

  • @chiseler151
    @chiseler151 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    do this in hell or nm

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you missed the point :) this works the same way in NM and H, hence the principle would be the exact same.

    • @chiseler151
      @chiseler151 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays not a lot drops off andariel in normal so you missed my point.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Getting stuff is not the point of the video :P

    • @chiseler151
      @chiseler151 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KillrobPlays you're still missing the point of my comment. just forget it.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hehe nah mate, I'm not missing the point, we just have different opinions on what makes it interesting :) and that is fair enough.

  • @sirkorbendallas
    @sirkorbendallas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey man, just as a heads up, you spent two minutes just talking at the beginning, very boring.

    • @KillrobPlays
      @KillrobPlays  7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Heads up, if 2 min of talking is not your thing, then my channel is not for you :P hence: thanks for the warning, I know, and I won't change it one bit.

  • @DJRoyston18
    @DJRoyston18 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop talking so weirdly, just narrate normally