Mystery deepens over Jay Slater’s last steps as ex-cop says 'huge gaps' in police investigation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- CONVICTED drug dealer Ayub Qassim can be seen in a photograph on the doorstep of the Airbnb where Jay Slater stayed before he vanished.
Jay took his last photo there after Qassim, known as 'Johnny Vegas', invited the Brit back to his holiday let along with an unnamed friend.
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He's either been dumped in the sea, his phone thrown in that last ping location, - The Guardia Civil need to check the Hire Car the two guys used to see if any of jays DNA is still in it - will be from night before - but - on the day of disappearance - traces of blood in the boot ? mind u is 4 weeks on so that car may have been cleaned and rented out again - - i agree this does stink - these 2 guys need arresting quick - as cannot see he's hiked through the mountains, hidden, and he's injured, in a T Shirt for nigh on 4 week now else he would have been found by now, wouldn't have strayed that far off pieste surely ??? God knows whole thing is weird but there are deffo people who have lied & know. They all should be re interviewed by UK Cops.
Totally agree
The DNA will still be there if anything happened but the fact they didnt clock its a murder inquiry not a missing persons with what they already had to go on is even more suspect....
Please.. Not Luminol at all... IT WASN´T and IT ISN´T a Criminal investigation. They have been at the house twice to inspect it.. not for forensic tests.. because so far Jay has suffered an accident or voluntary disappearance... there is NOT THE LEAST INDICATION of foul play.
Cadaver scent would still be the none the less, even if blood traces are all erradicated
Are you suggesting the three separate eye witnesses that saw him at the B&B, the 2 men staying at the B&B and all his friends are part of an elaborate conspiracy despite absolutely zero evidence to support that in 3 weeks?
Would you like to buy some magic beans?
"For Some Reason" he goes with a drug dealer to his AirBNB... hmm, I wonder what that reason could be?
"Rolex" is also a brand of "E", the type of "E" which would have been sold at the rave.
@@marcuspd477So are mitsubishis, but if someone said they'd stole a mitsubishi, it wouldn't dawn on me to ever think pill.
It's not uncommon after a rave or party to head back to a complete strangers house to get on it round the kitchen table. Iv done it more times than I can remember
@@3macnooz This is true. Although he spent just an hour there. And the guy stated that they all just retired to bed once they arrived at the house (although he may be lying)
@3macnooz Those were reaaaaal good 😂
Take the two guys at the Airbnb down to the station, separate them and tell each one that the other one rolled on him and told the police everything. How it was his fault that Jay is missing and now they’re gonna put this guy in jail for the rest of his life,and see how fast they start talking.
And do the same thing with this Lucy and Brad. Somebody will roll and spill the beans on what happened.
That's what they normally do in UK even to 13 year olds
Actually did it to me when 5 us arrested came in said all 4 named me offered me a talk walk deal which I refused mind only 4 us got charged so guess it does work
The guy has been in prison for 10 years. no all the tricks
You can’t pick on people unless they are white.
@@mistaschaub3280Si exacto a niños , estos se reirían en tu cara .
Around 170,000 people from the UK go missing every year, approximately 600 of them abroad. Why is the media so obsessed with this one guy, when we rarely ever hear about the others? The guy was clearly a bad egg who got involved in some bad crap. What about all the innocent kids taken every year? Where's their media attention?
They’re waiting for the story that the GFM os all a big con
It's a distraction from something bigger
Ikr whys this lad so special compared to every other missing person
Because there are many we questions and leads
How many turn up ?
That guy looks extremely dodgy…. Bet he has something to do with it.
Very dodgy
The two men know more.
As does Lucy. The men have been heavily leant on for a while now, yet she hasn't... Why not?
She's the one who claimed she was one of the last people to speak to Jay and she's been painting the whole narrative from the very start.
That whole area has been searched on her word but nobody knows if he was ever actually out in that area. It's just her word.... and she's changed details a few times.
@@user-eh8cg4bp3y Heavily leant on? I thought they were quizzed briefly and then deemed "irrelevant". That's not a great deal of leaning.
@@user-eh8cg4bp3y his phone was tracked to that area
I agree 100%
No mention of other man?
If you're asking me to put "2&2 together", Jay Slater was dealt with after an "expensive stolen watch" went missing. It has been claimed by Mark Williams Thomas that he knows for FACT that "it was on a Saturday night" that Jay Slater & "marli boys" (i.e. the same Somailia boys renting the Air B n B in Masca) stole a watch. We know this for FACT because that's what Jay Slater himself bragged & boasted about on social media. We don't know whether Jay Slater stole the watch in partnership with the "Marli boys" or whether, Jay Slater seized the opportunity to steal the watch while with the "Marli boys". But it's FACTUAL that Jay Slater did steal an "expensive stolen watch". Very interestingly, it has also been revealed that the brand of "expensive stolen watch" is NOT a Rolex, admittedly (& again) bragged & boasted by Jay Slater himself. The brand of watch stolen is an Audemars Piguet. Make & model stolen, worth around £50k brand new.
It has also been speculated that the owner of the watch is connected politically (so in with the Mayor/s, councillors & corrupt legal system & police), but also (& realistically) connected to the world of drugs. There is also talk of the owner of the Air B n B in Masca also being politically connected on the island of Tenerife. Apparently, he's a former Mayor who lost the position due to corruption.
Therefore & considering the above, is it outside the realms of reality that after the owner of the "expensive stolen watch" realised his watch was missing, he very quickly realised that the only people that could have stolen the watch was Jay Slater & the "marli boys". Please note, that's what Jay Slater himself refers the Air B n B guests as on social media posts, "the Marli boys". The owner of the "expensive stolen watch" contacted "the Marli boys" & via the phone interrogated "the Marli boys". In turn, they immediately cracked. Why would they crack under pressure? Unlike Jay Slater, "the Marli boys" have a lot of time & money invested in Tenerife, via a "coffee shop". Obviously, they still want to visit Tenerife & crucially, make money on the island hassle free. So for those reasons, "the Marli boys" agreed with the owner of the stolen watch to double cross Jay Slater & trade him in at their rented Air B n B in the isolated village of Masca.
In my opinion, that's why "the Marli boys" travelled all that way, to collect Jay & drive him back all that way, after the "NRG" rave. But When Jay got back to the Air B n B in Masca, he (somehow) picked up that the whole thing was a set up & fled the Air B n B. But by then, it's all too late for Jay. The owner of the "expensive stolen watch" is well & truly on his way (realistically, with others) to hunt Jay Slater down in the Tenerife wilderness, or better put, in (quite literally) his own back yard.
In my opinion, the owner of the "expensive stolen watch" is someone that is definitely politically connected on the island of Tenerife. If you think that claim is sensational. The very fact that the brand of watch stolen is an Audemars Piguet, make & model stolen, worth around £50k brand new (or Rolex for that matter) is an outright statement by it's owner that "I'm a very wealthy person" & having that kind of wealth usually carries power & influence. Hence why the blatant half hearted effort to find Jay. Hence why so much silence to the extent that much of what either we hear from the Spanish Authorities, the family or "friends" of Jay or MSM hardly makes any sense. Most stunning of all, how/why did the Spanish Authorities say & from the word "GO" that the two Somalia boys were of "no relevance to their inquiries" when obviously they were. Clearly, it's one BIG cover-up going on until the story dies down because REALISTICALLY, Jay Slater stole from someone that has power & influence on the island of Tenerife. From there, Jay Slater was well & truly out of his depth & has been (realistically) hunted down & dealt, in the Tenerife wilderness of Masca by people that hold power & influence on the island of Tenerife. Hence why & as of yet, no body or not even an item of Jay Slater has yet to be recovered.
To get to the bottom of this mystery, the Spanish police & along with Jay's family, need to focus their attention on, (1) exactly who is/was the owner of the "expensive stolen watch" , (2) exactly when & where was it stolen from & (3) exactly what/why was Jay & "the Marli boys" doing at the premises. It is the owner of the "expensive stolen watch" that holds most of the answers to close this mystery. However, I also get the impression that the owner of the "expensive stolen watch" is someone best left alone & not to be upset....
Hmmmmmmmm!!!It is very painful and I dont want to be in Jay's parents shoes,I understand you dear and I agreed to who is the owner of stolen watch? It is a lie no watch was stolen I bet!!💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
AND - why on earth was the Airbnb only forensically searched after 2 weeks or more ??? ?? and by which time all suspicious evidence could have been wiped away - totally carelrss, inacceptable and negligible
Excellent SITREP!
It’s ‘mali’
Wrong end who bit off more than he can chew
A young man who bit off more than he could chew and got involved with some bad people ..
He said he was lost, what if he is just lost? What if he walks out in the future and it had nothing to do with anybody else, he just went the wrong way. Young people are vulnerable and could easily go with people he shouldn’t have. Then go the wrong way. He could have left the bb because he realised it wasn’t for him. I think the biggest question is …where is he? Which part of the mountain?
you talk like he is innocent
@christineeckersley4505 the b &b wasn't for him but participating in an attack on a poor lad with a machete and his mates is more his cuppa tea.
i agree
@@christineeckersley4505the trouble is, there isn't actually any evidence that he remained on the mountains after his phone pinged. He literally could be absolutely anywhere
I love how in spite of violent criminal history the media are trying to paint him as an innocent young man on his first holiday …. C’mon .
Exactly! He's a little thug, to be frank.
He didn´t attack Tom .. he was there and encouraged the attack but he did not attack or harm Tom Hilton...
@@garbancitolentejas486that's ok then!!!!And laughing in court.
Really think majority of people know his past is not snow white ,he is a young lad ,so what does that have to do with it , if this was an elder man sure people wouldn't be as concerned but come on the kid cause he is still a kid ,did not deserve that
@@janinabuczynska9939 Right. He was stupid and laughing in Court because he looks he wanted to fit in that group. I'm not saying he's the citizen of the year... but he's not the Jack the Ripper the media portrays him to be. He is the typical teenager in some areas of the North.. you know
This is going to get milked for as much as money as people can make out of it...That is for sure
Spot on 💯
Spot on, every man/woman and their dog coming out of the woodwork
I dont give a hoot about him
Bored of this now. The kid was dealing drugs and got in trouble with the drug cartel. There you go summed it up for you all. Dont do drugs kids
Small minds don’t go far in life brother just saying. Your going off what you’ve heard not what you know the kids dead imagine if that was your child and people were talking like this get some respect you wonder why this country is the way it is cause you have no respect and your country sees it with your stupid messages
What "drug cartel"? This is not a movie!!! Not Drug Cartel in Europe mate!!!!!
Spot on 💯
@@ranstxx I think you did way too many drugs as a kid to assume everyone acts that way. Your assuming this kids lifestyle off what you have read and get this correct read only from TH-cam this is where your law and order comes from TH-cam what a absolute sausage you are stay in your home and stop doing your community more harm with your assumptions remember assumptions can get you into deep trouble and that’s just life
@@garbancitolentejas486 Of course there are cartels in Europe ffs! 😂You think cartels are limited to South America??
Sounds like drug dealers run the island
🎯. Spot on. Have done since the early 90s. ✌️
He is fish food now
possibly fish poo now
@@boootrospossibly water now
What if he is somewhere watching all this and laughing
2 Passports? Left Tenerife?
he laughing at his parents? then i guess white people do stuff like that
Why will Quassim not identify him
They know who he is 👍
everyone knows what snitches get
It's known who it was
British media refuse to
The 2 dude's are sketchy he got robbed, and then something went down.
Or....Jay robbed them while they slept and legged it. Then got caught...
I’m finding it hard to feel any sympathy for anyone, from Slater, his parents, friends and all the dodgy mugs involved in this case. Arrest the main players and interview them individually. From there, focus on the guaranteed inconsistencies and you’ll have your answers.
Why would you leave the AB&B with no water, no battery and no plan unless you were forced out?, and then the question is why did the other two men let him leave like that?
Because he was on High and couldnt´think coherently and rationally
Wasn't it one of these guys that he stole a watch from? I bet he was high and either died of dehydration or falling or something like that.
@@JS-bh3pz Or he died from dehydration, or from hypothermia, or from a fall, or from exhaustion, or from multi-organic failure due to high drug consumption...It is very sad so young life lost by an incredible set of bad decisions and bad luck.
They had used him, men lose interest after.
The two from the air bnb know more than they are saying. Can the not be brought in for questioning in UK
The British government should ask the Spanish government to allow British police to go there and investigate this. It's clear that something bad has happened the drug dealer has got to be prime suspect. This boy is a British citizen after all.
I absolutely don't want to pay any more taxes because some petty criminal got lost abroad after stealing an expensive watch and hanging out partying with criminals for days.
The boy isn’t a boy he’s a 19 year old man. Who’s involved with men double his age and a convicted drug dealer. The British police aren’t going to send search teams out to another country 3 weeks after he went missing. They’ve looked for 2 weeks so it’s not like there’s any chance Jay is lying hurt somewhere now I’m afraid it now 3 weeks so we can only imagine what they would find if they found him atoll. ✌️
The Spanish police and government are full of corruption though..!
A bit unprofessional that investigator Mark publicly shares his findings from the conversation with Ayub Qassim before talking to the other person. Normally, you would first listen to the other version to identify contradictions.
He's a GRIFTER who inserted himself into the story and will likely be writing a book about it to profit some more because he's not doing it for free.
It's consentual. You will note that further information was strictly not divulged.
I think that Mark dude wants publicity for himself for future interviews and a forthcomong book on the subject. He just feels like an opportunist to me.
Remember aswell before he came he would find him in 3 days. 3 weeks later and we still no the same.
He has a new book to write. £££@@skygod1975
Did they search for DNA in the air bnb ??? cause Stevie Wonder could see that this situation didn't make sense from the beginning,
A lot of very strange things has happened with this case that doesn't make sense.
As far as we know, the Tenerife Police did not send the 'forensic's' to the 'AirBnB', even now the two men have long criminal records, allowing them to return to the UK on the next Tuesday...peculiar...
as shaking stevens would say ....green door whats that secret your keeping
🎵 There's an old AP but I think it's hot, behind the green door ⌚
I don't know who they're shagging but he screams a lot, behind the green door 😱
I think they have their meals while they're cutting deals, behind the green door! 🤫 🎵
😂😂😂😂
This GRIFTER ex cop is definitely getting paid for his time in the sunshine. He offers nothing
You have no idea what investigation work he is doing 'under cover'
@@carolharkness5023nor does he! His so called investigation won’t be published. Did he not say something about 3 days. Chancer in it for media attention not truth
@@carolharkness5023😂😂😂 undercover. He’s been on as many news programs as he can get on.
He came up with nothing from previous cases?! The Temu Detective is on the job
He said he's helping for free?
BOTH GUYS HAVE VERY GOOD ALIBIS DESPITE WHAT PEOPLE THINK. THE STORY IS VERY WELL NEATLY PUT TOGETHER AND EXPLAINS EVERYTHING LEGALLY. NO1 WILL NEVER FIND JAY'S BODY. EVERYONE INVOLVED IS CONVENIENTLY INNOCENT.
No they don't. Lucy said she tracked the guys down at the bnb and went up there to speak to them, while Ayub says he got a call from on of Jay's friends never mentioning Lucy going up there. Someone is clearly lying
@@rosita3528 I agree, Im just saying it is convenient that the storys match apart form the gaps like you mention but it isnt a UK investigation. Case closed in Tenerife.
he didnt leave the next morning, what is this guy on about ?
he left that morning, they didnt leave the party till around 6am got the BnB at around 7am and by 7.30am jay has already apparently decided to take the 11 hour walk back 🤣
Something clearly made him think 'leave fast'
@@skygod1975Maybe Qassim farts in his sleep? 😂
@@user-pw5ls9ti2j maybe they invited him back and they gone to bed and jay got the wrong idea and got into bed with Qassim and started spooning him, Qassim is havin none of it and turfed him out
@@skygod1975 or clearly went to do a deal
Exactly! Just what I was thinking when I heard him saying 'the next morning'. He was at the rave all night. He was at the air bnb for an hour at the most.
Drug deal gone bad. I reckon the drug lord dudes took him to the mountain town saying they could get him some stuff. They got there, walked him up a little trail, killed him and took his money.
The two men tricked Jay into going to the Airbnb to extract revenge as they knew he had ‘the watch’
Exact
Keystone 👮 👮 springs to mind. Prime witnesses allowed to disappear out of the country.🤦🏻♂️
Surely the 2nd man can be identified from flight records ?
They know who he is bud 👍
What do you mean? Police knows their identities from day 1, when they questioned them. If you mean us (or private investigators) identifying him, then forget about the flight records idea. That's personal confidential information that can't be shared without breaking the law.
he is the gangster rapper potter paper
@@devonhope2165Hark at Sherlock
Most likely
Something happened to him in that BNB he was scared of something I mean who would walk with no phone charged up and no bottle of water interview these two men again because they left the island pretty quickly
He robbed them, either drugs, money or the watch. He couldn't wait about for the bus or go back and risk them finding out etc he stole from the wrong people
i hope that they find him , it doesn't matter what his past is , he's a young person and doesn't deserve to die or be kidnapped . his poor family , think about the people you really love , put yourselves in jays family's shoes , how would you feel in the same circumstances ? i have read some horrible comments , be glad that you don't have to go through this , believe me when i say losing a child is the worse pain that you will ever go through in your life time , please have a heart and think about his family
This Is Crazy! No One Vanishes Into Thin Air ! Im 😮😮 That They Got OUT Of THE Country! Jay Is One Of 11 missing men In Tenerife In 6months! Summit Evil Wrong On The Island!
It’s been happening in Tenerife for Decades now. Many foreigners have vanished from Tenerife in the past 20 years. It’s a common occurrence. Very sad but true. Especially after being involved with that Veronica’s area. ✌️
Why did Qassim rent the dingy AirBnB for just 2 or 3 nights? He is reported to run a cannabis cafe for his friend Potter Payper (a drill rapper), so wouldn’t he have a more permanent rental closer to the cafe in Los Cristianos/Playa de las Americas? Or does he simply move from cheap AirBnB to cheap AirBnB?
One without any cameras/security 🤔
Maybe he was drilled and wrapped ?
People like him are all talk and don't usually have much in use able funds
@@Bs-gw3tt I get that, but then surely he’d be a regular at Ofelia’s AirBnB which wouldn’t make her an uninvolved witness, totally separate from Qassim, as she’s currently portrayed. The place is a bit of a dump from the photos, in an out-of-the-way location and a long term understanding would be beneficial to both parties.
Secluded location...very suspicious.
There isn’t a Spanish police liaison officer. Well that’s what the foreign office is for.
Also they allowed quasim to go free because the police are on the take.
Yes there are Guardia civil liaison Officers in London... and from many years ago....as in USA...Or how do you think joint operations with DEA and FBI are conducted?
And the local mayor there seems to be no angel.
I heard he owns the airbnb. And...he's the brother of Orphelia, the lady that runs the airbnb. Hmmm...
Yes his name is Genghis Khan... the man got bored and decided to become mayor...
Can't the UK Police continue to interview Johnny, the other guy who was present in the b@b?. Do the pair know more about Jay's disappearance and what else has friend Lucy got to say?
Are you talking about the Met?
because Bribes are real.
The Somalians are not to be treated light, life is cheap where they come from. He has ripped them and paid the price sad to say and can't believe that police let them leave so soon.
There is a “huge gap” in that chancer’s credibility.
Don’t steal Mr Big’s gear. Don’t steal Rolex watches. Don’t brag about doing so on Snapchat
I don't think Jay stole the watch at all. This is a red herring
I think Rolex likely refers to a brand of E. Stamped pills. Since the guys are all former runners and have been sentenced for it before, the rapper and the ayub fella etc, it seems likely someone in those circles were involved/ idk maybe. Also, this Lucy girl is suspicious and needs to be questioned properly because her texts were cryptic and she is allegedly a drug mule herself. This is about money, drugs and murder. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Don't associate with bad hombres and certainly don't steal from them. on the other hand, it could be the case that he simply fell down the mountain and died
Rolex is known slang for cocaine
@@NailahRoberts Yep I’ve heard it called that as well. Either way, watch or gear, it wasn’t his, and he snaffled it.
The only bit I 100% believe is that he was scared silly when he spoke to friend W, X, Y, or Z, at 12/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8am cuz he’d lost the bag.
Wonder why all his friends said their social media had been hacked…very unfortunate turn of events at exactly the same time that their friend had been missing for 30 mins or however long it was between Lucy speaking to him and him being reported.
I think Contact-Emergency Service Alert-GoFundMe Created must be an all-time record, surely?
Some people (not me of course) would think someone knew that would be the quickest thing that mattered the most was raising the sum that matched the gear stolen. I wouldn’t think that, obviously, cuz I’m not cynical, but SOME people might.
@@martinleonard1992 Yeah I think it was gear not a watch as stated in the comment below yours.
What wrong with this family they have over £50,000 cash and still not paid anyone to search if was my son would of already have a team and paid so they know something we don't ,that why there doing absolutely nothing to find him looks like they want to keep the money for themselves not for finding jay unless he doesn't need to be found or paid searchs
Lucy setting up a £30K GoFundMe the next day after he went missing, is also suspect... along with many other things.
Goes to club > Meets drug dealer > goes back to his place to get drugs > gets robbed > walks back and gets lost doing so > dies. It's not that deep...
It's all very bizarre and scary.
Police chief absolutely paid off.
Based on what? He tried to walk 11 hours in the sun and called someone saying he was lost and didn't have water. So unless the girl is lying we know for a fact he put himself in a situation where he would almost certainly die. The fact they haven't found his body doesn't point to corruption.
@@AnyoneCanSee Please don't tell me, after all these weeks and countless new findings, that you still believe the official MSM narrative?
@@AnyoneCanSeeyou sound naive enough to be fully vaccinated 💉☠️
Right so…
Why did he go off with 2 random people?
Why did he agree to travel that far away from his hotel?
Where were his friends he went on the Lads holiday with?
Why would you decide to “walk back 11 hours” and what possible reasons would there be for this choice?
If in trouble, why didn’t he speak to someone else in the B&B?
Are we sure for certain with multiple accounts he was seen leaving the b&b alone.. no one following etc?
How do we know he called the girl… where’s the documented proof of the call?
If he did call the girl, how do we know it wasn’t a ploy or he was being forced into it?
Have we entirely ruled out Suic***?
Have we been able to indefinitely rule out Murd3r?
I can keep going…
This says he met the the 2 guys at the NRG festival but Brad said that they all met and made friends with the 2 guys earlier in the holiday.
Yeah that was just one of the inconsistencies in Lucy's story
@@mistaschaub3280 Oh was it Lucy that told them they met that night, interesting.
It’s not that deep, some of the group new them for longer
Who is this other man they can't name!?
Thanks for staying with this - given all the flack about this case ❤
Why arent the British Consulate involved .. Since the Civil Guard stopped the search a whole week imo very little has been done by the family .. The GFM donations are there for u to get the right people on the island to find Jay!
Young Brit are perfectly safe to travel there but not if they are associated with drug dealers.
Best investigative method is A, B, C: Assume nothing, Believe Nobody, Check everything.
GO AND CHECK THAT Rented car by that CONVICTED DRUG Dealer , that SOMALI 39 year old man, go CHECK THAT RENTED CAR'S Boot for DNA YEAH , IF YOU Find DNA OF JAY , Then that should be enough to go arrest that SOMALI DRUG guy
OK THEN.
@@tatata1543 To find DNA of Jay means nothing because Kassim has said from the beginning that Jay traveled with them in the car... therefore it is logical that there is DNA from Jay... if he had said that Jay never traveled with them... then it would be significant but it is not the point.
@@garbancitolentejas486 OK THEN.
Only scared person goes on steep bushy areas in unknown country!!! He must have been in stress behaving illogical!!! Every normal person would choose to get car lift or bus! Or walking down civilised roud! Not bushes and not 11-hour trail!!!
That lucy knows what's happened
All these stories about jay slater confusing.
If he has 1% battery and manage to call 2 of his friends one in uk and then lucy law when 1% battery wouldn't last long if they have a 5 or 10 minute call so how can he go google map?
I think it's strange jay went missing 17th june and two days later lucy law created gofundme page and manage to get £50,000 what's that for they haven't found his body and he isn't dead so whats it for🤔 is it to clear his debt with the drug dealer.
Every interview that jay slater so called friend lucy law has she has her back towards the camera. If someone is camera shy they wouldn't put pictures of themselves or with a friend on social media.
I think lucy law knows them two guys and done something to jay slater and the two guys are lying to the police.
She could have set up the go fund to ease her conscience give his mom some compensation it was set up to quick .
Let's play Devil's Advocate: the person in the blanket holding Jay's lighter is Brad, to create a false record; Jay never made it to that B&B 💯
They're not stupid they know he's at th bottom of the sea.
Maybe jay slater felt inside the sea
Did they spray Luminol in the AB&B since it was newly painted? Were the owners aware of the Drug Dealer that rented the AB&B and was it possibly painted because a crime happened there? Is everyone being quiet on the island because they are scared of these drug dealers? I’m afraid they drugged Jay, harmed him and sadly he’s missing. Then these evil men took off.
He's dead due to dehydration. Most likely someone missed him during the search.
Don't say it out loud or else you're going to ruin all the conspiranoids theories!
Absolutely @@georgezee5173
My take exactly. The story is likely to be much simpler. They have missed him during the original search
Exactly. The guy is/was an absolute idiot.
We would find his body is that we’re the case. Drones would have seen him.
Nobody talking about how much of a sort Lucy is
No police force will continue a search past a 'reasonable' time-period that a person can be found, they'll probably keep a minimal number of officers on the case on a part-time basis as there's no suspicion of foul play. He's not the only person to go missing on the island and they can only do so much. It'll be down to volunteers and goodwill from that point onwards to continue the search.
I am afraid you are right
Shouldn't be a search should be a murder investigation
@@mistaschaub3280 should 'have been' a murder investigation...that's all a bit too late now. I want ot know what do the Spanish Police know? Is it going to need UK Police to intervene to find that out?
There is every indication of foul play
@@maggieedwards3951 based on what verifiable evidence?
Despite his past he is someone son hope he is found
That is a hell of a drive, the road up to Masca is so difficult to drive at any decent speed and remember it was dark.
I think Jay escaped from the AirBNB and they caught up with him 😢
It's a set up that's gone world wide the Airbnb owner knows more than she is letting on.The two in Airbnb are there all the time .Lucy may knows these guys well they all know what's happened to Jay they are all in it together .The watch that was stolen which jay had allegedly stolen it was set up by lucy and the two guys at the Airbnb.
Something about a lost bag of drugs and Moroccon drug dealers? That’s what I’ve heard from another channel
There is a drain cover directly outside the bnb. Didn't the man say he moved his car that morning?
I'm just amazed that as a convicted drug dealer you get through customs and travel around freely! No Border control for these people? Can someone do a documentary on getting through the Border Authority with a known criminal record and no questions 🤣🤣🤣
This will be nigh on impossible once the new ETIAS scheme comes in next year. Every non EU traveller to Europe will have to apply for a 3yr ETIAS visa before they travel which will be checked at every entry and exit in the EU Schengen area. The visa application process will cross reference biometric identification details and criminal records etc. That will pick up anyone with unspent convictions or who are on licence and should not be leaving the UK or who have outstanding fines etc. Their application will be denied. They will get turned back by custom/immigration entry points without one. Shame the UK isn’t doing the same!
He's an English drug smuggler
Wrong un by all acounts
What about the air b+b owner who spoke to him and told him when the bus was coming, then she sees him a bit later on walking fast?
She is clearly being paid off by the cartels to turn a blind eye, or help them, if necessary. She prob gave the guys Jay's location.
Didn't stop to give him a lift wonder if she feels guilty with what's happened😊
She's the sister of the former corrupt mayor she's been paid off
@@isabelwright8910would you give a lift to an English 19 year old with shorts and a T-shirt on who doesn’t speak a word of your language? Also knowing what we know what state he probably looked in, a woman in her 60s on her lonesome. Nah I wouldn’t expect many people to offer a lift to someone like that either. ✌️
112.000 missing children uk every year.😮
He went because he already knew them AND his so called friends had left him. We already know this. Move on.
Pleaseee. The plot is clear… he was followed by the two guys driven themselves or driven by the woman who owns airbnb. They caught up
With him possibly just after his last call. They bundle him into the car… throw his mobile.
Drive to the coast boat waiting( these people cud arrange this quickly en route) jay on a boat- way out to sea. End of .
I am a pensioner and myself and my family think… This Is soooo OBVIOUS!!!
He is not lost on that mountain.
But the culprits new by throwing his mobile it wud distract everyone and guess what it did.
Please Sun cone on- look beyond the area of the misleading last ping. Dawn Hare
Two Passports? Left Tenerife?
Don't give up your day job " columbo ".🤦😂
Clear and you think that road is in Pyrenes... as every body can watch in youtube.. that road hold an intesive traffic from the early hours in the morning... buses, taxis, cars, trucks...
Air band be owner as well? wow, exciting. keep on going
Did I read correctly on another vlog, that 11 people have gone missing on Tenerife in just a few months?
If you actually look it up there’s been multiple foreigners who have vanished from Tenerife over the past 20 years. It’s a very common occurrence & the police the mayors the authorities all know all about this situation in Tenerife. They turn a blind eye to a lot of the criminal activity in that Veronica’s strip. It’s all about keeping the tourists coming to the island that’s why it’s not talked about but it’s true it happens every year.
@@gavinmillar461Claro que pasa , si estás drogado y borrarcho en Tenerife y cualquier sitio .
Sick of hearing how angry the parents are! Ironic since they have sat on the gofundme money for almost 3 weeks. When every minute counts you just wouldn't.
I read that they were using that money for flights out and accomodation for themselves family and friends to come out and support them
Given he was on a call with his friend whislt lost its pretty obvious he is dead somewhere in that wilderness and just hasnt been found yet
Stop blaming the Spanish police for what he did. He was up to no good when he got involved with these two drug dealers. Didn’t he steal drugs too? Take your own responsibility and stop creating conspiracies against the Spanish.
Who is the second man and why does no one know his name or anything about him??
Moral of the story. Steal a Somali pirates watch. Sleep with the fishes.
It was a'burly East European man' Jay stole the watch from during a fight at the rave. He sent a message to Lucy saying he'd nicked a watch....He took a lot of the gear he was meant to sell at the rave himself and, because he was so out of his mind, he lost the rest. So...cartel-ish consequences...
If you don’t find someone in the first 12 hours the likely situation is that the person is no longer alive.
A bit dramatic there... But in Jay's case, specifically, I think he died of hypohermia the first night he went missing.
@@georgezee5173it's spelled "machete" not "hypothermia"
bull
I'm sorry but this whole story stinks to high heaven.
The 2 men and the lass done it so obvious
@@kimcatchpole1665 seems he only met her in March so not a life long friend
I find it very telling how they write in the description "delivers breaking news LATEST GOSSIP ect.", so how can we believe anything they are saying??
I've gone for the not interested option .
That option doesn't exist when u watch reports about the issue your not interested in
Thought they were paying for rescue team to comeover with go fundme?
Is the Rolex/AG watch a red herring. It has been suggested that Rolex is slang for cocaine or ecstacy. Forget the watch angle. It is bs
Lucy's hiding something!
Spanish police about as useful as me speculating from my sofa
The Sun are milking this
Just like everyone else.
@@libellula3313 true
Are we assuming the photographs we see of him at the airbnb are of that night/ morning? Perhaps he knew the men well and had been there before and they were not strangers to him. Perhaps he never made it to that property at that particular time. So that part is a red herring.
Ofelia was apparently the last person to see Jay, not the Airbnb guys.
Signs of a struggle
He must've fell through one of these gaps you've seen around
The dodgy underbelly of all the holiday resorts we love to visit.
Profound comment. And true.
No one returns after 3 weeks
Obviously he was involved in a drug deal gone bad , I don’t see anything suspicious at all , my belief is he was promised drugs , he went with the man , then the deal went bad , they snuffed his life out , hid him somewhere in the mountains, don’t need to be a detective to figure that out .
Clear! And the Spanish woman is a MEDIUM and was talking with a GHOST.. oh My God!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Most likely he saw a short cut to another section of road or thought he could cut off a corner. Disoriented, probably the worse for wear for having no sleep and whatever booze/drugs from the night before ended up lost and baked/chilled by the elements.
Exactly what I have thought once I saw the winding and looping road. He made a poor decision and went off road to try a shortcut over that terrain. Sadly he will be found where he fell at some point.
I live in southern Spain. In 2002 my eleven roomed houses in the Campo was burnt to ashes by my ex Spanish boyfriend. It was attempted murder and arson. Deliberately done because I left him after two years of horrific abuse and stalking and threats to my life. He's father was a retired ex chief of malaga police at the time. Everyone knows he burnt my home down. Everyone and witnesses . They were all shut up or threatened to loose their jobs and worse. We lost everything even my beloved dog. We were not insured left homeless with ZERO help. They did not give a damn about me and my little girl. I became a self taught artist to survive having lost everything my depression was horrific and it took me ten years to get over that trauma and loss. I have lived here 23 years with zero help. I now live in a dangerous uninhabitable house rented to me initially by a crook landlord and he's wife. Now I'm in a very bad situation and threatened with eviction. The police are corrupt. Protect their own and they never even investigated what he did at daddy's orders, nor did it go to the high court for serious crimes but was kept hushed up in Ronda court. They would not allow me to speak not an interpreter. They asked him only one question. Did you do it which he replied No..That was it. Witnesses were not brought in, nothing. That is my experience of Spain. Now once again I'm facing homelessness and zero help so I will be in the street..European laws are not followed in Spain unless it suits them to do so. He should have got twenty years in prison but instead was never convicted. I was not insured nor compensated.I feel abandoned completely and fear for my future. Carmen Bonnici abstract artist