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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2024
- People like to joke that Street Fighter 6 neutral boils down to "Low Forward, Drive Rush the game". Although it's a joke, the reason people feel this way is because it's a strong option. At least it seems that way. There is a way to stop this very easily, or at least keep people much more honest about how they structure their pressure when they spend 3 bars. Let's learn about these interactions quickly.
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Chun li 2lk is 4f!
Great catch! Yeah just checked it and Chun's 2mk x drive rush 2lk is a true block string. If you're going to try to DP after her 2mk then make sure you are not pressing forward during it!
Her 4/6MP into 2LK after Drive Rush isn't a true block string though and you can always DP if she does 4/6MP into drive rush.
also Zangief's ^^
@@MikeyDLuffyI'm only plat 5 but I don't think cancel Dr is good meter use on chun li over OD moves. Od kicks is safe on block. Od kikoken is a reset and very+. Od sbk is a launcher. Od air legs is buffed now too. Od kikoken goes thru fireballs and is fast. Od tensho is used a lot for invul reversal. She uses a lot of meter blocking too. Raw/parry drive rush is worth it for her overhead or medium kick or cross up. There's not a lot left unless you're one of those master players who just memorize one combo and then make that work for any poke you land on your new char. The one I see is the standing Med punch, back heavy punch, stance light kick, m. sbk. It doesn't even do a ton of damage over other combos with the modifier for cancel Dr. Not worth 3 bars and burnout again.
@@jrg305 I play her, got to master long ago but it means nothing. I agree on something with you: spending 3 bars on dr cancel is normally not good use of meter. If you have full meter and you are good catching them standing, maybe. I'd rather do cr.mk buffered into OD legs plus oki or I'd play fireball/poke/antiair game. If they actually play neutral Chun li has astonishing normals, to poke them from afar and also to punish them extremely hard for throwing low moves. Bad thing is these DR people trying to force their way in with no intention to play anything clean.
Ed's 2LP is also an actual low and also 4f.
Didn't know so many drive rush strings were fake. Thanks for the tip
I fought an Akuma in ranked today who was doing this to me, I'm pretty sure he saw your video lmao. I gotta hand it to him, he really made me go "Damn who the fuck does that"
Always weird to me when people try to say these games are simple.
To be fair, it's taken a year of development for this video saying, "invincible option beats offense" lol
A lot of it is just moment to moment rage. I don't even acknowledge it anymore
@@joshford256 it's more that people have figured out you can option select drive rush pressure, you input DP and if they do something like grab or a slower strike it comes out and if they do a blockstring you don't DP even though you've input it
The game isn't simple. The problem is that some of the most effective strategies in this game are ridiculously simple to execute (drive rush, throw loops, full screen corner carry, etc). It reduces barriers to entry, sure, but it in turn makes otherwise low skilled players stronger. Tricky balancing act for sure
playing M controls is !!!🤣
What if my character doesn’t have a magic upper cut?
Rip
Drive Reversal. Doesn't deal as much damage and doesn't give oki, but with the latest patch it's also significantly less risky than an EX DP because it's not that minus on block, whereas if someone were to read your EX DP, you're going to get blown up.
This is all great info. I had no idea that holding down keeps you blocking during a block string, even if you're not holding back
You don't need to hold down to keep blocking if it is a true block string. If you block the first hit and then let go of the controller you will still block the whole thing. The exception is that you still need to be holding down to block low attacks.
4:40 If you want to be a complete nut job you can do 2MK DRC into DI if you KNOW they are doing this OS. It's not necessarily a sound/safe strategy, but it does work.
still losses to some OD DPs like Ken's and Akuma's since they have enough hits to break through the armor
@@Adrian-ub3yz Only Akuma and Rashid.
What to do if you don't have a dp??
Drive reversal, lvl1
Cool but what if i dont have a dp
Dude some of these concepts and interactions you go over in your vids are thigns that I know I will forget to do or freeze up when it comes up, but its just super interesting learning about the nuance of these games. Keep up the vids man
"Dp always wins" cries as kimberly with no dp
There's character specific ways to to bait out this OS. Ed can kk command back dash or use his own DP, Kim can teleport to dodge DP depending on character (she has to OD teleport to dodge kens and even then the timing is to tight for resources lost), Aki can now low snake step, install supers theoretically can beat it if timed right, and I'm sure theres others I'm not thinking of. BUT if you time the OS right, DP should still not come out during these fake drive rush cancel scenarios, another BUT you would have to buffer the motion and manually stop when you see the fake drive rush. So another layer.
What about characters without a dp, like JP (unless he has a move that works like a dp that I'm forgetting)?
When you consider all these secret option selects, this game's defense is kind of hard to crack at times for me.
The attacker can hit confirm their crouching medium kick if they drive rush cancel it. So they jab if it's blocked, and they do a bigger button if it hits. Then it's completely safe, and you get still get the larger reward if it hits.
Yup! And I imagine that will become the norm down the line, but right now, even at 1600-1700 MR, I've noticed people do fake drive rush strings on block all the time.
That being said, as the defender you still pose no risk for inputting the DP in the situation that they are confirming the crmk was blocked.
@@MikeyDLuffy That's true. And it would protect you from things like cr medium kick into drive rush overhead 😵💫
love the game but i feel this game just caters more toward the low forward > DRC/DP characters imo
doing the lords work as always. Thank you for the info!
Well, heavy buttons have better true block strings anyway and steal more meter, so drive rushing those are more useful anyway. You mostly buffer mediums into driverush light as a low risk callout. And if it doesn't hit, you try to shimmy to enforce a strike throw
Great video! I figured this out myself the other day, and it really did catch some opponents off guard.
Do more of these please! You are helping a lot with these videos!
Appreciate it! Definitely plan on doing more.
My character doesn’t have a dp 😢
Blanka has a character specific DP bait and that's cr.mk/mp -> DRC -> 6KKK. Blanka will drive rush cancel and instant hop through any DP or flash kick. I like to do it if I know my opponent auto pilots DP/Flask kick's any drive rush cancel.
That makes perfect sense and is some pretty cool character specific tech.
manon :(
I play on standard ps5 control, how can i do dp input without pressing forward? Can you elaborate a little if there is a trick to it?
Db df d df.
You have to press forward but not let go of down
Ken is one of the only (few?) characters that can feint low forward with low short. Doing low forward into DRC is a huge meter waste if you don’t have the confirm, I’d only do it if I was desperate to get in. The OD DP can be baited too, and then you’re dead.
for the kimberly mains: 5mk>DRC> 2mk is a real block string
how the hell do you check the fullscreen dj mix up "am I gonna drive rush jab or jump knee" tho
Hi broh why I can't dp constantly I practice a lot but when I play ranked mash I can't dp against random people I can't play neutral and I salty too much
Yea I feel that. Doing the shortcut I've shown in the video helps a bit, but it mostly comes down to practice and time haha
@@MikeyDLuffy thanks
Since down forward isn't blocking either the same issue as pressing forward should apply to that as well.
thanks for the vid, can u do a video about how to defend when bbeing in the corner ? i feel like im always getting counter hits no matter what i press
Well this was learned year one not to mention they lose a lot meter so it's not always the best option at high level. But that holding df and still blocking is kinda gross
Wow! Great tips!
Hmm Mikey be cooking! Great vid
Question, where did you get the art in the thumbnail?
Its an artwork by Persona 5 graphic designer LAM. Link in description!
Ahhh maybe thats why eds cr lp(low) was negative 5
Ed has a 4f cr lp that hits low.
Drive rush cancel cr MK into cr LP, then block. You are plus and bait out mash dp
This. You should not mash DP on incoming DRC, but only input it once to check if the opponent is lying or not.
THANK YOU i hate this mechanic with a firey passion i hope street fighter 7 get rid of this terrible mechanic like I'm all for fast pace aggressive but this mechanic literally makes certain characters broken and unfun to play against even when i win by a clutch i don't feel satisfied or joy its just annoying at that point
What about drive reversal?, because not everyone has a ex dp
Drive Reversal is a decent option as well depending on what they cancelled into drive rush, but it loses to more things. In some examples of someone doing Drive Reversal into a jab, they can usually recover in time to block the Drive Reversal in time and then punish you.
They'd have to be committing to a single jab since you can't confirm off one jab
Now give all characters reversals and problem is solved.
All characters do have a reversal. It's called Drive Reversal, and it got buffed a lot this patch.
@@caspertrog1046 Useless against Jap, Parry OS.
801 did a video like 4 month ago about this don't know why people talk about this now
Not everyone in the world watches videos from just one person or even sees it.
I don’t have a dp :(
how do you do the green dash? Im tapping dash button but its not coming out
Hold parry and then tap forward, or better yet, double tap forward but on the second tap hit parry at the same time
@@friend4720 I stunt know why dr feels so unnatural to me
You can do the green dash (drive rush) after using a special cancellable normal and then pressing parry after/during the normal.
@@friend4720 Thanks! I was able to implement this and hit silver for the first time :D
@@kevinwong9353 Congrats! 🎉
is drive reversal not useful?
No, if you are going to spend 2 drive meter you might as well do OD DP to do actual damage. Drive reversal is a noob friendly option with lower rewards.
It is good, especially since the latest patch. It's obviously less damage than an EX DP, but it's also significantly less risky because you're not as minus on block. And obviously it goes without saying that some characters simply don't have an EX DP, so outside of spending super, Drive Reversal is the only way.
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turn off this annoying music! Its a tutorial video
ive been thinking about this concept but i havent seen anyone explain it all so clearly. hidden gem fgc youtuber.
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and i play three different character :s