This Gap in the Bike Lane Frustrates a Driver
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- When we reach the end of the Bike Path along the 125 from Navajo to Grossmont College Dr, we make a left into El Cajon, where there's a major gap in the bike lane. And even though I'm riding where I'm supposed to, and even though I'm moving with the pace of other traffic, a driver leans on his horn. Of course, he's at the red light a half a block away, when we pass him and get back on the bike lane.
The City of El Cajon needs to fix this.
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"We are now back in the bike lane", dude that's no bike lane :'(
It's not great, but it is, indeed, a painted bike lane. It's not protection, and there's no buffer, but it's better than literally nothing.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego I would say that's debatable. It just gives you a false sense of security, flase "this part of the road is mine" which could be more dangerous in some circumstances. But even if it helps, as Not Just Bikes says "paint is NOT infrastructure".
@Lowezar I understand, and agree it's debatable. I'd argue that even though paint is not protection (which I repeat on this channel often), dedicated space on the road is safer than nothing at all. Yes, I want real infrastructure. But it's an exhausting wall to beat our heads against. For this video, for this single block of Navajo, I'd argue that we need something instead of nothing, and this driver's temper, I think, supports that argument. Whatever that something that goes in would be, I'd hope it could be protected with a physical barrier.
Aw, he's mad because you wouldn't let him park in the sun. So devastating!
The thing is, he wasn't there! He doesn't seem to roll up on the person next to me until after the light turns green. Still, poor driver...
I ride that area often and have had that exact thing happen to me, trucks in a big rush to get to their next red light…
There's so much room to paint in bike lanes on both sides of the road, and adjust lights to allow LPI for safety.
It seems like car drivers complain whether there’s a bike lane or not!
I find reactions like this happen far more on roads where I'm forced to take the lane because there's no other bike lane.
Wow. Narrow bike lane. That looks worse than not having one.
I can assure you, as the harassing driver confirms, a narrow painted bike lane is better than none at all.
2:40 that is not a "bike lane".
That is a hard shoulder.
Edit: I see there is a sign, quickly blocked by the rear view.
Where I start is a fantastic facility. Where I arrive is typical paint on the side of the road. I don't love it, but it's better than nothing at all, and I feel mostly safe with it there (especially on such a lightly traveled road, high speeds not withstanding).
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego I would complain about the number of lanes: but my municipality is in the process of widening Fort Road to 6 lanes all along it's length.
There is a planned parallel separated bike path for most of it: except for a 1 block section in front of land set aside for Transit oriented development.
The 1 (one) building that actually got built is too close to the road to permit a bike path.
Hopefully they will make access to the bike path parallel to the rail line to the south less awkward.
Heck even strategic fence holes may be all that are needed (official or not).
@jamesphillips2285 Thanks for sharing the experience where you live! "One more lane will fix it" is a lie traffic engineers tell themselves and cities all the time. I'd have to look back at the history of this area, but I think Fletcher Parkway (and Navajo and Mission Gorge for that matter) got that way because they pre-date the construction of the 125. It would be nice if when major expressways were built, other roads were right-sized in response. Turns out, people like living in places where they can also work and have fun without having to rely on driving.
Report to the police, that’s a misdemeanor illegal use of horn.
They'd only be able to respond if there's a clear shot of the driver's face, and I'm not sure I have that. Had the behavior been more threatening than it was, I would have made it a point to get a clear image at the light.
I assume anyone that is that aggressive must have an emergency... I like to assume that emergency is they are about to poop their pants and they need to find a bathroom
That's exactly what I think too.. I say too much movicol
You should have given the honking driver the little rascal hi sign.
2:04 "world class separated bike lane". Is that a joke?
What I was referring to as "world-class" is the place where I started, which is a completely separated and mostly tree-shaded bike lane. It goes about 3/4 of a mile from Grossmont College Dr to Navajo.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego Yes, I saw that. I wouldn't class any part of that infrastructure as world class though.
@dmolirl7847 I'm not sure what could be better for the distance it covers. Complete separation, nice and wide, mostly shaded, view of the mountains when riding north. It is one of the best .75 of a mile to ride in the region. I just wish it connected...
If drivers complain and do not want to share a road, it will be end up with adding a bike lane after removing one lane.
That happened 101 south bound at Encinitas.
Is this what drivers want?
I don't think that Navajo needs to lose a travel lane here; there's a lot of space to put painted or buffered bike lane from the 125 to Fletcher Parkway. But I also don't think that this road needs to be as wide with lanes as it is. And riding south through Encinitas is a lovely ride, and a lot of people on bikes are using it daily.
I bike to my university campus in canada and I hate bike lanes being so inconsistent within intersections and even sidewalks fucking disappear so I have to switch to another sidewalk against traffic and risk skimming people waiting at bus stops it's insane I mostly walk the last 2/3s of my ride
Cities often won't cooperate on bike and pedestrian infrastructure, leaving terrible gaps. And near highways and interstates, they leave it to state DOTs, whose only motivating statistic is car volume - not people volume.
I hope that's changing. At least cities around here have found (I think) that the liability of ignoring people outside of cars is more costly than just making roads safer for everyone.
Thanks for posting this. What cameras are you using?
It's a relatively inexpensive one called the Looking DB-1. Thanks for watching!
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego it’s the same story in Australia, much respect and keep up the good work. 👊
I’m trying to be empathetic by why not ride on the sidewalk? I know it’s not good sometimes but it looked fine on the stretch of road you were on.
Glad you asked! Sidewalks aren't safe for a number of reasons: they're often too narrow, especially if people are using them to walk, push strollers, or have dogs with them. They're often uneven, as well. But, most important, is that riding on the sidewalk puts me in a position that makes it more difficult for drivers to see me. On this specific stretch, drivers are pulling in and out of the giant parking lot, and they're looking at the road in front of them, not the sidewalk.
Also, I start on a bike path, and to the west behind me, there's a bike lane, and I'm riding to a bike lane. This is a gap. The funniest part is that the driver honking isn't even behind me. At no point am I actually in his way or slowing him down. I'm riding in a place that's perfectly safe as long as drivers can control themselves. If they can't, maybe they shouldn't be driving.