Here's an example of why it's not going to get better: An independently run solar farm supplying some industrial concerns found that it was able to generate more energy than it was contracted to provide. As such, they decided to divert this excess capacity to a town called Frankfort _for free_ to alleviate that town's plight. Shortly upon learning of this, instead of being pleased that somebody was providing the energy they could not, Eskom promptly ordered an immediate cease and desist (upheld by S.Africa's court) to said company and told them to dismantle any excess panels they had if they were generating more than they needed to. Apparently, the powers that be believe it is better to force a town to live in darkness than to lose face and to protect their monopoly (of something they were unable to provide anyway). This happened in 2023, long after Zuma had been ousted. Nothing's changed.
@@toi_techno Uh…..that’s not true. Europe was not “miserably poor at the bottom”, corrupt maybe but compared to the rest of the world Europe was economically superior to the rest of the world. If anything after the world wars the wartime damage destroyed the European economy and benefited the US. Prior to the First World War European nations still maintained vast global empires and had a stranglehold on the world’s economy. Europe had been “first world” since the 18th century. You’ve just fallen back on the same argument as corrupt African politicians, you’re blaming everything on Europeans. Zimbabwe still has mass corruption despite the exodus of European landowners. Not all problems stem from colonialism, using Europeans as a scapegoat won’t help anyone.
It wasn't just Nelson Mandela's successors - it was Nelson Mandela too. One of the biggest problems in SA is the lack of Electricity. The coming electricity crisis was identified and brought to presidential level attention many times while Mandela was president. He ignored the problem realising that it wouldn't blow up on his watch.
He kinda had his hands full. Hindsight is 20/20. He should've slowly introduced the problem to the people in power politely persuading them to outline a long term strategy to address it. Bigger issue: prevent future corruption. He could've introduced checks and balances. Once you get someone with enough power, they'll take over everything
@@burtan2000 you have stars in your eyes. Mandela still had great influence after he retired. He endorsed corrupt people like Zuma. Good luck trying to set up a non-corrupt government in Africa.
South Africa is a case study in what happens when black socialists take over a White republic. They were handed a fully functioning state and promptly drove it right straight into the ground.
Let's not forget that Cyril Ramaphosa, once a miner union organiser, is now one of the richest mine owners in South Africa. How did that happen? Everyone knows why.
@secretname4190 yeah but I am a white yank who does his research. I always knew ANC was rotten. Weren't they all communists? What is happening there now is sickening and yeah the liberal west doesn't care because you white. They probably like this stuff
Eish, as someone who lived in South Africa for over 15 years, corruption runs deep within the ANC. I do hope for the future for the country as I see it as my home still. May SA continue to have many lekka Braai's in the future to come.
Zulus and Bantus better keep Zuma far from politics... We already see him moving in Malemas circle. South Africans wanted no release for that man, Bantus have no more room for error. Whites and colourds are not blacks and we won't assymulate to your nonsense. You don't respect our country or our laws and the Bantu Nguni blacks found us here... We gave you power, and noone today is denying what a mistake it was. Africa is calling you lot home
It's so sad how often this happens across Africa. We have the resources, we have the wealth, and we have the labour. If our politicians simply sat down and actually decided to do their jobs and fulfill their promises Africa could literally develop overnight but they're rather focused on appeasing their political parties and squeezing money from the state for their own benefits. These politicians have dissapointed and doomed entire generations of Africans. We have become the laughing stock of the world💔
Imagine if an African country took the resources they already have and built a space colony despite all the corruption and people just ended up without enough oxygen because someone stole it
Hope Africa can overcome this one day. The same thing happens in Latin America. Although there is some progress, corruption holds it back from becoming a power region.
My grandfather is South African, born and raised in Cape Town. He came to the United States in the mid forties. I've met my relatives from South Africa, and their intense personalities made me want to learn more about the country. Thank you for this video!
I was working in South Africa as part of a UK government team seconded to South Africa during the transition from apartheid. I’m afraid all the corrupt practices of the ANC were evident from the start.
Cute story but the truth is that the ANC was rotten to the core far before Zuma entered the picture. The reason nothing ever came of it is because Mandela himself would have been implicated. Sadly for many African cultures, they actually view corruption as something you have the right to do when you are in charge, in fact it is almost expected, you should be using your power to enrich yourself and your friends and family.
@@basilmagnanimous7011absolute nonsense. Europeans had an east head start due to geography. Australian and Africans were isolated and literally had to come up with everything on their own with no outside help. Meanwhile you Europeans could jsut copy from the Middle East and india which your race happily did. Do not compare isolated groups like natives, Africans and Australians to Eurasians who had by far the best geographic civilisation starting point on planet earth
That's what happens when your borders are drawn by people with no idea what they're doing. Most of these countries have no reason to exist, it's no wonder they're so unstable.
@@earthtoimani You have to go to cro-magnon to have an argument about the incompetence of South African leaders? Some humanoid evolved beyond cro-magnon or whatever, some did not, apparently. Poor South Africa.
Stuff like this makes me so grateful I am a Nigerian. Unlike SA, we didn't have any massive preexisting infrastructure or wealth built by whites. So we actually had to work hard as hell to improve and we also kept many things the British left us like capitalism, democracy, and federalism because we actually know what works. My country has many issues and load shedding too but we are far better than South Africa in many more ways and future prospects. Our electric grid, though flawed, is undergoing rapid modernisation and we never let our politicians rest on it. Our national unity is better. Our economy is larger (we literally outpaced SA as the largest economy in Africa). Our industrialization is increasing, not declining. Our political system, though flawed, is not as crippled and corrupt as South Africa and our politicians don't use the excuse of "apartheid" race to secure power. Plus, we are not known as a haven for xenophobic killings and murders. Good luck to South Africa
.......and your government will be receiving funding from USA and NATO to start a proxy war with Russian/Wagner backed coup leaders of Niger, Mali and Chad. Congrats, this will be Nigeria's decade!
South Africa was destined for the disaster. America and Britain were instrumental in 1994😢ANC triumph. America was looting South Africa under ANC where by they could not under white government
Do you have ANY idea how disheartening it is to live in South Africa for everyone but especially as a white man. We are treated like second class citizens and we're not allowed to work because of the never-ending black economic empowerment. This while everything is falling apart around us and our culture and language are systematically eradicated. This all has a huge psychological impact on us - we are a damaged people. I'm in my 50's and I'm too old to emigrate. The irony is that I was openly against Apartheid AND voted, like the rest of the majority of whites, to end Apartheid. And now we are openly prosecuted and murdered while the rest of the world (particularly the so-called Liberals) are turning a blind eye.
I am very sorry your life has turned out like that. I hope it gets better for you. But it is good for the truth to be told about African corruption. You are called a rascist for calling it as it is.
I think the world turns a blind eye. Because a lot of your talking points mirror the talking points of white people in the U.S. who cry wolf. And try to pretend that any sort of Pro Diversity or Pro Equity laws are Anti-white, or Racist. I understand that the situation in South Africa is a lot different than the situation in the United States. But in America we look at things from an American perspective. And you have the misfortune of having talking points that are eerily similar to our white supremacists. You might think that you are too old to Emigrate. But if I were you, I would still give it a shot. If south Africa is as bad as you say. Then I'd say that the U.K. or the U.S. would be an improvement. Both countries have their problems. But no one in New Jersey or Liverpool is going to stop you from working. If you move to the states, then Best Buy or Wall Greens will happily hire you.
@@Anthony-ct3cv You don't just pull people out of primitive tribal conditions and make them 1st world country citizens. Reality just doesn't work like that. Whatever happend in South Africa in terms of elevating the majority of the peoples lives was always going to be a slow and difficult process. Unfortunately since the election of Mandela said process has been firmly in the hands of the ANC, who have proven utterly incompetent at best and pure criminals at worst. Until they are gotten rid of there is no chance for the country in future.
The boycotts ended, leading to a massive boom in the economy, but rather than reinvest in infrastructure the government kept plowing the money into welfare and other bribery schemes. When the infrastructure finally crumbled, well, that's now...
A month ago a building burnt down in Johannesburg and many Zimbabweans and Nigerians passed away in the inferno. (RIP) our South African government blamed the fire on Apartheid even though the Anc has been in power for 30years. That's South Africa in a nutshell.
@@pixeladventurer5377you mean shot at criminals.. notice how the army Doesn’t do that anymore and now South Africa is full of criminals. Wow maybe the army was doing something right
Funny how no one talks about Nelson's habit of organising certain volatile materials to be placed in certain populated areas. I guess when you are "awarded" a Nobel Peace Prize, history disappears....
You are the ONLY one that sees this my friend --- i wholeheartedly agree with you ---- NOBODY seems to remember that Mandela was responsible for 5 people's death in the early seventies --- a petrol station was blown up with explosives in the so-called struggle -------- now he is an "icon"
Tho I don't know the details of Zuma's arrest, as a person from a country suffering from corruption (currently ranked 112th in the world for corruption perception index), a president getting convicted of corruption isn't necessarily a sign of improvement. It is more often than not, political struggles and corruption charges are just the ammunition. Every politician is corrupt in our country, getting in prison for it just means you're bad at political manouvering.
@@spectacles-dm yea i must point out something to you hear. SA ranked among Japan & Belgium in the Corruption Perception Index in 1995. Today it ranks closer to Brazil and Colombia. For all its human rights violations, the apartheid regime didn't rob the fiscus as the ANC has done
The civilised democracies we’ve taken for granted in the West took generations to create and have been revealed to be infinitely fragile. Africa is the default for humanity, the West is the exception. And we’re throwing it away.
A fascinating look at how South Africa has run into very troubling recent problems with politicians prioritizing their own wealth and their party over the state and their people. However it gives me hope that not just an independent media, but also the courts have at least been able to stop the worst offenders. A good sign that there is still much reason for hope. As you state in the video, there are still hard problems to solve, but there is good reason to still hold out hope that SA can be a vibrant and prosperous democracy. Another excellent video! With your production quality and extremely interesting topics about democracy around the world, I can hardly believe you are only at 6.1K subscribers (as of writing this comment).
And pigs will fly.. billions have been pored into all of Africa since it became free of colonialism. Money down the the drain. China is now finding this out, soon the new Soviet Union (Russia) will also find out. If you want to use your money wisely give to Southern Asia or India which will become developed
Very interesting video. I'll admit I never thought about how possibly the ANC's time during apartheid could have affect it's accountability record. But it's interesting to hear how Jacob Zuma truly cause a lot of the current problems in SA (though not all of them). one thing that should be mentioned was he used to be head of ANC intelligence during Apartheid as well.
Mike Dincan has a great elaboration of how the Bolshevik Revolutionary Party lead ro the calculating and callous intellectual-fanatics of the early USSR Commubist Party.
It’s an intentional distortion of history. The rot started before Zuma’s tenure. Thabo Mbeki failed us alot. From letting Zimbabwe collapse and causing mass immigration into SA, to selling off strategic state owned entities like Iscor to Arcelor Mittal, pushing up prices of steel and collapsing the Vaal Triangle’s thriving economy. Don’t take everything at face value, try read a bit more.
Zuma was also the chess champion on Robben Island. Bearing in mind that there were some seriously smart people, that is impressive. The man plays the fool, but he is not a fool. I mean, he's got billions in the bank as well as a paid for "fire pool".
Well, the hard truth is that the whole of Africa as a continent has to blame itself for the shameful conditions it has plunged in the abt 70 years following the end of colonialism. They keep blaming colonialism and the "white men" w/out realizing that this blaming game plays a big part in their constant failures by removing and therefore not seeing their own huge responsabilities and failures. Moreover, the paradox is that now they are happily falling in the hands of horrible countries like Russia, China and Iran... again another example of how they are unable to stand on their own feet
Which sentence? Do you even know what he was jailed for? This video is based on untrue stuff. Zuma is not jailed for corruption but for defying a commission with facts that a judge is bias. The truth & reconciliation that was done by Mandela , Botha who is an ex President did not attend from the get go. Was he arrested? No Zuma has attended for two + years and gave testimony but got to a point where , according to him the judge was bias and allowing other people to not account. I'm not defending him but I'm defending facts. People don't look at the whole spectrum but always want to push propaganda and allow themselves to be brainwashed
@@mhlengestmbonambifunny how everyone is supposedly biased against Zuma. Everyone from the newspapers to the courts is biased against poor Msholozi. Too bad about Kwesi I'm sure she was bias too.
South Africa was a mess when I visited in 2011. I can't imagine how it is now. The first thing my saffa friend told me when he picked me up from the airport was to always be aware of my surroundings, no matter where we went. In the USA, ADT is an alarm company. ADT also operates in South Africa, but as an Armed Response Unit. They skip the useless cops and send their own private mercenaries. In addition - every middle class or upper class house is in a gated community with armed gatekeepers. The only open neighborhoods are the slums. And those are true slums that make skid row in LA look upscale.
I recall in Tanzania in the 60s/70s. My African co workers whispered on many occasions their country was far better off when the Mzungu ran it. London Heathrow airport had a steady stream of near empty planes landing for shopping trips to Oxford street. Politicians wives returned and filled the plane with goodies for themselves and fellow politicians. The Tanzanian people carried on living in poverty Sad really. Probably still happening all over the world
I'm glad they haven't completely devolved into civil war, but man am I gladder that the gov't during apartheid gave up their nukes before leaving power. This country was always going to be dangerously unstable.
Good and balanced analysis of the challenges facing South Africa. Mbeki and Zuma have failed to build on Mandela’s legacy of ending Apartheid. Sad that leaders have used patronage to reward their families and supporters.
A sad story given SA's rich history but it's hard to ignore that a lot of what has happened, has happened. A hopeful ending remains in sight for the country though and many who live here, like myself, believe in South Africa figuring it out!
SA ranked among Japan & Belgium in the Corruption Perception Index in 1995. Today it ranks closer to Brazil and Colombia. For all its human rights violations, the apartheid regime didn't rob the fiscus as the ANC has done
The picture this video paints is far more rosy than what is actually happening in South Africa. Zuma, despite what this channel suggests, was convicted, not of his crimes, but rather in contempt of the commission set up to investigate state capture (where Zuma essentially sold the government to the Guptas, a wealthy Indian family), Zuma spent a few months in prison before being released on "medical grounds". Some time ago the constitutional court overturned that ruling, but the government dragged its feet on arresting Zuma. Today (23/08/11) he was finally arrested, only to be released within 2 hours due to a "totally unconnected" (insert laugh track here) unannounced general amnesty for non-violent criminals to relieve overpopulation in the prison system. Of course Zuma being a non-violent criminal (despite all the death and misery that his looting of the state has caused) was released, not on parole, mind you, but complete clemency. President Ramaphosa, of course, did not oppose this move at all. Zuma, to this day, has not stood trial for his crimes, and there are few people in this country that believe he ever will. The story of Zuma is just a cross-section of the pure corruption that the ANC has allowed to fester in this country, This is unsurprising as the ANC is so corrupt that it is doubtful that there is a single uncorrupted person of any authority in the government or in the civil service. So no, in the short to medium term South Africa is doomed to crumble, The wealthy are either closing themselves off in guarded neighbourhoods or complexes (or simply fleeing overseas), while the rest of the country is being run by gangsters. Power cuts continue for a minimum of 2 hours a day, if you are lucky, and sometimes going as high at 10 to 12 hours a day - and this in turn is chasing off business. The 2024 election approaches, and while it is predicted that the ANC will fall below 50% (we use proportional representation in this country i.e. tyranny of the majority) they will likely join forces with the violent, communist EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters) who are even worse than the ANC, and will no doubt demand that some of their more radical agenda be enacted. The ANC will comply as their power and money depend on it. We are screwed.
My God sir, please tell me you're are white? Your so composed and are a master of English writing!? Well said so consice and clear with the order of the day recap of politics of South Africa.
@jr2904 I am going to promote and lionize fellow English descent people. Just like the Black supremacists only show support for their own kind without any pushback, we need to encourage our own. Yes, you're right anyone can master English but this man is the most eloquent. My hats off to him.
@@RoddyPipersCorneasIts actually basic, but not untrue. Not that youd make the effort, but if your going to give opinions, you might as well do the proper leg work. Let me start you off with a book written by Anthea Jeffrey called The People's War, another is the Countdown to Socialism.
@@RoddyPipersCorneasNo man on this earth is ever free of bias. Also if you're not even willing to give a quick explainer on where you think he got it wrong, then you might as well not have said anything.
Really? I thought he interjected with opinion statements when none were needed. Repeating them sometimes, which just slows it down and made the piece go from fact reporting to straight opinion. It's such a complex issue and Idk enough about it to have a fully formed opinion so i can't say one way or the other, but I can say I know which way the author wants me to go. I shouldn't know that if it were neutral
It's an enduring myth that Mandela liberated South Africa from apartheid, but the thing that did it was the end of the Cold War. Prior to that, the West was frightened that if that system ended, South Africa would become a Soviet/Cuban/East German satellite - rather like some states already had to the north. Therefore the West, whilst generally acknowledging the evils of apartheid, saw it as being preferable (with regard to its own interests) to what might follow it. Once East European and Soviet communism had been defeated, it was safe to end the apartheid system.
Those fears might not have happened had they actually pressured South Africa to end Apartheid and have actual democracy with full human rights and equality for all that would have made ANC less interested in getting Soviet/Cuba support and focus more on having good relations with Western and Eastern Bloc. It's that ever perpetuating and paranoiac fear of "Reds Everywhere" that leads to Left-Wing and Communists overthrowing corrupt and brutal Right-Wing dictatorships supported and installed by the U.S like the one in Nicaragua, making this a clear example of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Neither Mandela ,the ANC or the sanctions ended apartheid. White voters did in a referendum....Apartheid happened in a time with no TV or internet, state-owned radio and news=papers. Totally segregated. Work was created for whites and blacks according to their skill levels at the time, Hospitals,post-offices etc had segregated sides, equally functioning.
What South Africa needs is power sharing. It should've been done in the beginning but it must be done now. There should've been a moderate third party that can command the broad based support of and comprised of select persons from both black and white populations (and even Indians) that is pragmatic and dedicated to the betterment of all South Africans and not just racial redistribution and didn't have the baggage of apartheid to lead the country in its wake. Suffice to say, a new South Africa should've had a new cast of characters instead of the ANC and others, perhaps one like Singapore's PAP.
@@r.mariano8118 And? If it's actually working then why ruin a good thing with arbitrary hiring practices that only focuses on filling quotas? That's what caused issues with most of South Africa.
The ANC was never a good party. (Read up about Camp Quatro, to name just one example. Jacob Zuma is basically the Zulu version of Lavrenti Beria.) A bad tree can't bear good fruit and a tree that has borne bad fruit has always been a bad tree.
The channel failed to mention how the South African government kicked out all the white Farmers or potentially declared a war on them, and almost created a genocide.
They definitely did not lol. The white population still controls a huge proportion of the resources and farmland and is less likely to suffer violent crime than the black population
What do you mean by almost? They are busy destroying our culture, our language and history, and those things are part of genocide. It's not just the large scale murder of an ethnic group.
Yes economy grew under Mbeki and the future looked bright, but this was at national level, corruption and incompetence at local and provincial level were already destroying SA at lightning speed. While corruption is in every country, the brand of ANC’s corruption is that of protecting corrupt people, as long as they’re committed cadres who donate some proceeds of corruption to the “movement”.
good point. You can see it too with ramaphosa - even if they try to fix things at the top, at the bottom its severely broken. Look to the Western Cape to see how local government is done and how to elect local leaders who serve community
I find it so incredibly despressing to see how a majority of nations across the globe just deal with so much instability, corruption, poverty, subjugation etc. Some of it might have syarted with outside influences. But so mnay hage had decades of independence and just do it to themselves atvthis point not even trying to move forward. The more you learn about a nation and see it beauty and and ugly its just makes it sad knowing they arent reaching their possible potential.
My understanding is that the agricultural irrigation circle machines run on electricity so expect mass famine next. Also, many people were too poor to pay for the electricity they used and could not be disconnected therefore massive loss in maintenance therefore power outages.
You’re out of touch with reality. Famine? Most people live in rural/semi urban areas and actually survive without power. Actually, you don’t lose more than 4 hours of power here.
I was in Kwazulu-Natal for about 87 days in 1997. The fertilizer chain is breaking down according to Peter zeihan on geopolitics. Other experts are also predicting worldwide famine not just Africa. The green revolution of the 1970s was due to transforming natural gas into nitrogen which is done in Russia mostly. The war with Ukraine has disrupted the supply chain for grains also. Some South African TH-cam videos say that some South Africans have gone 12 hours without power. In any case, power is needed for the irrigation of crop circles. Your own people estimate that traditional agriculture can support 3.6M people while you have had a Black population boom to 36M. Your Zulus are killing farmers, and also destroying food processing plants and trucks.@@AJakes93
Botswana is about the only country after independence that has raised the standard of living for its people, the country was blessed with mineral wealth the government has seen fit to build on that wealth for thd betterment of the country .
In SA, it was obvious that this would be the "normal turn of events"... especially in the African continent. The perfect example of: " A Blind Man Could See It...Comming".
Mandella was a terrorist who bombed hospitals and was fully backed by the Soviet Union, he was no hero. South Africa went from one of the most productive countries in the world to a slum, wonder what changed, you already know. Also the "black" South African is as native as the Boer who were in the region first. The Khoisan are the native people of the region still robbed of their but now by the forgien Bantu people of which Nelson was.
SA is simply reverting to the condition it would've been in if colonial powers had never been there. Zimbabwe went the same way. Nothing to see; move along, please...
The ANC is too far gone to be saved at this point. It’s rotten through and through. If South Africa is going to survive, it needs fresh blood in its political system.
Yeah I think we should open the US up for white South African immigrants only then let the rest of the nation be as Black supremacist as it wants 🤷♂️. They can’t hurt anyone once the non black people all leave
@@spectacles-dm - you know that is NOT what he is saying. the scam was that a nasty but at the same time, clownish figure like Mandela was a 'beacon of hope'....'bud'.
No. The negative trends don't seem to have an ending in sight. Some socio economic issues linger, proving difficult to resolve after close to 30years of political power being in the hands of the masses.
We do. We all know that the current government can't stay in power for much longer. All the chaos right now is a sign of great change on the horizon and we are hopeful in a better future.
Depends on how many factors you want to include into the conversation: - Currently, the South African government still maintains an alliance with Russia and China. The alliance with Russia is the most damming as it places ZA in a very problematic situation (ICC wanting Putin arrested and all) and negatively affects the local economy due to other various factors (whether international relations or local corruption). - Julius Malema (Leader of the EFF, which is ZA's Communist party) has vowed to unseat the ANC at their 10th Anniversary celebration and has even sung “Kill the boer, kill the farmer” while also making machine gun noises. This of course is a huge red flag. Whether or not the EFF takes control is debatable, but at this point anything is possible - Hell, there was a week-long taxi strike that blocked the major highways in the Western Cape because the local government implemented the National Land Transport Act and wanted to impound taxis that were violating the law, which the taxi drivers despised and started doing violent protests. - Then of course, there is the concern of low voter turnout. The Local General Election of 2021 had a 45,86% voter turnout due to a lot of people developing Voter apathy, especially among younger generations. Granted, it's difficult to say if this would happen again, but it's difficult to say at this point. Even if the country doesn't get a low voter turnout like last time, there is still the possibility of sabotage in the voting process. At the 2021 election, I knew someone who was in a queue for more than 3 hours and another who went to vote by 20:00 but didn't finish voting till 01:00 - There were people that still came in, but immediately gave up once they saw the line. There are too many variables one needs to consider, whether it will lead to another scenario such as Zimbabwe taking white farmers' land and forcing them to leave the country or will lead to the independence of provinces such as Western Cape, Freestate and Northern Cape.
Fascinating stuff. Y’all manage to provide such detailed analysis while also giving enough necessary background info for historical dummies like me. I know it must be a tough balance to strike each time. Also your tv model looks sick!
This video continues the false history of European rule of South Africa. How many people know the country was essentially empty when the Dutch colonized it? That part of Africa had been depopulated by internecine warfare. The Dutch arrived before tribes from the north crossed the Limpopo. Those tribes continued the murderous warfare common to tribal societies. Apartheid separated the blacks and white, but much more importantly segregated the various tribes from each other, preventing their wiping out each other. Before abandonment by the UK and USA, the country was peaceful and prosperous. Since delivery to sub-Saharan Africans, it has sunk into violence and poverty. Tribalism returns.
Not really mentioned why the massive change from Apartheid to Majority Rule, was that in 1989, the Berlin Wall came down & Communism collapsed. This removed the threat of South Africa becoming a Soviet satellite.
There are 1000s of of very semi educated, peasant, rural black majority who are intimidated to vote for the ANC or the aligned Communist party as they know no better, with no idea of what the vote means. They are slowly learning. There is a language barrier too, as there are many languages in South Africa besides English and Afrikaans. The black leaders will keep them ignorant as it suits them.
I don’t know anything about SA politics, but I seen a video of some politician talking openly at a rally about killing white families. Is that guy an ANC party memeber?
@@mattkelly9000 he used to be the president of the anc youth league and started his own party. Economic freedom fighters. They are even more extreme, while the courts dont consider chanting... kill the "Boer" (white farmers) as hate speach. The constitution means nothing to them. Narcissistic psychopaths with no humanity. They are evil...spiritually DEAD...and millions of people vote for these political parties (criminal syndicates). As i say...its insane.
@@mattkelly9000 Malema's chanting of 'Kill the Boer' must be viewed in the context of the many other remarks and actions he (and the EFF, from which his personality is not easily separable) has taken, including the rhetoric about the possibility of him calling for a 'future' white genocide, but also including other rhetoric around the ...5 days ago Malema's threats of force and the liberal order's rules of the .. (Malema is the leader of the EFF, a break away party he formed after being expelled from the ANC )
Part of it is born of 'they are better than the other guys' considering the other parties were complicit with apartheid i don't blame the Sourh Africans.
Well this is honestly the most balanced and fair view on the situation I’ve seen on TH-cam, could do with the filling in of missing context here and there but still good
No it's not. Zuma solved the electricity crisis in 2017. This video makes it seem like he made Eskom collapse. It's just propaganda. Everything said in the video is untrue. The narrator says Zuma was arrested as if it was because of corruption when it was a political crime. There is no research conducted. Just a silly video taken from eNCA 🤦♂️
3:00 don't forget the 23 year long border war, a never ending war doesn't bring back much money, and at the end of it the terrectory of suid-wes (South-West) gained independence taking it's tax paying citizens and resources with it. And 9:28 you skipped president no.3 sure he was there for about 5 months, but his entire time in office after Mbeki was booted he spent it hyping up zuma and encouraged people to support Zuma, to support his best friend.
Africa will just have a hard time achieving growth because of its systemic racial preference.. their government tried to remove all white people as soon as possible, made laws “empowering” native African only which is quite stupid for me, I was born in Philippines, living in Japan now, lived in Malaysia on my high school years and never felt any discrimination systematic or otherwise that’s why it’s easy to do work, find jobs or even business.
People want to take revenge rather than learn how to properly run a country and its infrastructure. A lot of people take the power grid for granted and don't realize the effort required to maintain it.
The electric plants is a huge issue. Last I heard was they are talking to a Chinese Electrical Contractor about repairing the plants and be able to stay in a budget. But the two previous companies who looked over the plants stated the plants need to be replaced due to years of neglect. Bottom Line: The money just isn't there. Replacing those plants at todays prices are astronomical more than SA's combined GDP. It is going to be the way it is right now for a long time. Also, pray that petrol prices don't skyrocket. Running those generators cost a lot. No wonder the people who can afford to leave SA are leaving. SA is crumbling before our eyes and no one is doing anything about it except pointing fingers. There's no more national pride.
In 1995 I knew exactly where South Africa was heading, and I was only visiting. I think most white South Africans knew as well. Black governments are usually corrupt, but boy that's a understatement when it comes to South Africa. I would imagine most blacks were better off before 95.
Yes, it's still racism because race has nothing to do with it. Look at other countries like Nigeria in Rwanda that are turning the corner and starting to do much better.
@@jasondashney a low bar to reach. P. W. Bota never let the lights go dark or the reservoirs run dry. It's laughable to think Rawanda or Nigeria ever EVER becoming nuclear powers.
@CentauriSphere because America was better under Trump. Also, you'll have to remind me, but has Donald Trump confiscated farms from black farmers the way South Africa steals from white farmers? Does he lead rallies where everyone yells "kill the blacks" like the black South Africans yell "kill the boer"? If the world had any sense, we would rescue all of the white south Africans, evacuate them, and blow every South African city to rubble as they left. Then we would be handing that slum back the way we found it.
It was obvious that things would go downhill as soon as the ANC took over. Colonialism is always blamed but 30-60 years after colonialism ended in Africa that excuse doesn’t work anymore. Before colonialism Africans were a primitive subsistence level people who engaged in constant warfare. What the colonialist and white South Africans left the new black led governments was a first world economy and infrastructure. The new governments destroyed both through corruption, greed, stupidity, ignorance and ineptitude. Most Africans live much worse now than they did before their “independence.”
South Africa has become Zimbabwe V2.4. I sincerely hope those of you who thought African democracy can work, are content with what you have created/achieved. Thank you Spectacles for enlightening your audience.
It pisses me off knowing that some of the people back then, knew who the ANC really was, people were warned yet we still put them in power. Even without the demons they kept secret, its still obvious to anyone with enough common sense that you just don't put inexperienced under developed communists in charge of your fking country. Because of course this was gonna be the outcome, but it seems everyone had fking rainbow coloured shit in their eyes.
Zuma wasn't sentenced for his crimes against the country, he was sentenced for being in contempt of court. He was also then released illegally two months later.
One of the more balanced commentaries on SA's recent past that I have watched. Thank you. The phenomenal work done by various investigative journalist was mentioned, but mention of the Judiciary was not. SA has, thus far, been saved by relatively independent courts. Great efforts were made by the Zuma govt. to undermine this, but without success. The road to success lies in ousting the ANC at the polls, re-introducing meritocracy and implementing the recommendations of the Zondo Commission. The size of government must be slashed by more than half and the current onerous labour laws repealed and replaced with pro employment ones. Politicians also need to abandon their egos. There... I fixed it.
Here's an example of why it's not going to get better: An independently run solar farm supplying some industrial concerns found that it was able to generate more energy than it was contracted to provide. As such, they decided to divert this excess capacity to a town called Frankfort _for free_ to alleviate that town's plight. Shortly upon learning of this, instead of being pleased that somebody was providing the energy they could not, Eskom promptly ordered an immediate cease and desist (upheld by S.Africa's court) to said company and told them to dismantle any excess panels they had if they were generating more than they needed to. Apparently, the powers that be believe it is better to force a town to live in darkness than to lose face and to protect their monopoly (of something they were unable to provide anyway). This happened in 2023, long after Zuma had been ousted. Nothing's changed.
The judge doesn't have a Dutch sounding name, I assume?
It is a mafia disguised as a goverment.
Yes well zuma is just one "person" and the country is full of these "persons"
That isn't why south africa is in trouble
@@kevinsullivan7831It is only a very tiny consequence of a Black regime
The problem is that Africa’s leaders blame everything on colonialism everything they’re in trouble and the people eat it up and blame Europe.
And then kill their farmers because they hate white people more than they like food.
Even Europeans are dumb enough to believe this, ignoring decades of corruption, war mongering and simply absurd beliefs held in some countries.
Sounds familiar. The blacks in the US use victimhood and blame everything on slavery and white people.
@@toi_techno
Uh…..that’s not true. Europe was not “miserably poor at the bottom”, corrupt maybe but compared to the rest of the world Europe was economically superior to the rest of the world. If anything after the world wars the wartime damage destroyed the European economy and benefited the US.
Prior to the First World War European nations still maintained vast global empires and had a stranglehold on the world’s economy. Europe had been “first world” since the 18th century.
You’ve just fallen back on the same argument as corrupt African politicians, you’re blaming everything on Europeans. Zimbabwe still has mass corruption despite the exodus of European landowners. Not all problems stem from colonialism, using Europeans as a scapegoat won’t help anyone.
@@toi_technoThat didn’t exactly work out well for Zimbabwe.
It wasn't just Nelson Mandela's successors - it was Nelson Mandela too.
One of the biggest problems in SA is the lack of Electricity. The coming electricity crisis was identified and brought to presidential level attention many times while Mandela was president. He ignored the problem realising that it wouldn't blow up on his watch.
He kinda had his hands full. Hindsight is 20/20. He should've slowly introduced the problem to the people in power politely persuading them to outline a long term strategy to address it.
Bigger issue: prevent future corruption. He could've introduced checks and balances. Once you get someone with enough power, they'll take over everything
@@burtan2000 you have stars in your eyes. Mandela still had great influence after he retired. He endorsed corrupt people like Zuma.
Good luck trying to set up a non-corrupt government in Africa.
Ah yes, the kick it down the road policy. Politicians love that one.
South Africa is a case study in what happens when black socialists take over a White republic. They were handed a fully functioning state and promptly drove it right straight into the ground.
To b fair though, similar stuff has been happening in the USA with regards to our electric grid and infrastructure.
Let's not forget that Cyril Ramaphosa, once a miner union organiser, is now one of the richest mine owners in South Africa. How did that happen? Everyone knows why.
It's OK. He can kill and steal. He is not white.
WEF puppets
Fair appraisal of my country but you ommited some really important factors --like ANC reintroducing RACISM at all levels of government .
A GLARING omission.
almost as if this video is propaganda designed to whitewash the racial element of the problem.
@secretname4190 yeah but I am a white yank who does his research. I always knew ANC was rotten. Weren't they all communists? What is happening there now is sickening and yeah the liberal west doesn't care because you white. They probably like this stuff
it's happening here in the US too. They call it equity, but it's government mandated racism.
They were never against racism. They were only against it when they didn't benefit .
Eish, as someone who lived in South Africa for over 15 years, corruption runs deep within the ANC. I do hope for the future for the country as I see it as my home still. May SA continue to have many lekka Braai's in the future to come.
Thank you for mentioning the ANC and not Zuma only!
Zulus and Bantus better keep Zuma far from politics... We already see him moving in Malemas circle. South Africans wanted no release for that man, Bantus have no more room for error. Whites and colourds are not blacks and we won't assymulate to your nonsense. You don't respect our country or our laws and the Bantu Nguni blacks found us here... We gave you power, and noone today is denying what a mistake it was. Africa is calling you lot home
Are you black or white I want to have guessed wrong
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbwho are your people?
@@nothanks9503 why would that matters? Unless you're a racist
It's so sad how often this happens across Africa.
We have the resources, we have the wealth, and we have the labour. If our politicians simply sat down and actually decided to do their jobs and fulfill their promises Africa could literally develop overnight but they're rather focused on appeasing their political parties and squeezing money from the state for their own benefits.
These politicians have dissapointed and doomed entire generations of Africans. We have become the laughing stock of the world💔
You have 1/4th of all the resources on earth of course you can’t learn to work together that would be too good
Imagine if an African country took the resources they already have and built a space colony despite all the corruption and people just ended up without enough oxygen because someone stole it
You got rid of the rightful rulers.
Hope Africa can overcome this one day. The same thing happens in Latin America. Although there is some progress, corruption holds it back from becoming a power region.
Stop blaming not you.
My grandfather is South African, born and raised in Cape Town. He came to the United States in the mid forties. I've met my relatives from South Africa, and their intense personalities made me want to learn more about the country. Thank you for this video!
ANC = National Party. Support Economic Freedom Fighters
@@f-86zoomer37 The EFF will accelerate the collapse.
@@f-86zoomer371
@@f-86zoomer37 the EFF has the wonderful ambition of turning South Africa into the next Venezuela or Zimbabwe
@@LukeJohnstone source?
AC: Alternating current
DC: Direct current
ANC: Absolutely no current
😂😂😂😂 The hate you have for anc made you to be creative and technical at the same time.
@@ngceboshezi7676 not “hate”. More pity.
And no currency either
I was working in South Africa as part of a UK government team seconded to South Africa during the transition from apartheid. I’m afraid all the corrupt practices of the ANC were evident from the start.
Cute story but the truth is that the ANC was rotten to the core far before Zuma entered the picture. The reason nothing ever came of it is because Mandela himself would have been implicated.
Sadly for many African cultures, they actually view corruption as something you have the right to do when you are in charge, in fact it is almost expected, you should be using your power to enrich yourself and your friends and family.
Sounds like Spain
they are simple creatures
They see someone who doesn't use their power for their own good as weak and flawed.
@@paulross9287 As do other cultures, especially those who don’t eat ham
In other words, Culture holds a nation's destiny. A horrifying thought as the West's culture is being replaced.
From democracy to kleptocracy to kakistocracy. The story of Africa.
@@basilmagnanimous7011absolute nonsense. Europeans had an east head start due to geography. Australian and Africans were isolated and literally had to come up with everything on their own with no outside help. Meanwhile you Europeans could jsut copy from the Middle East and india which your race happily did. Do not compare isolated groups like natives, Africans and Australians to Eurasians who had by far the best geographic civilisation starting point on planet earth
@@basilmagnanimous7011least racist TH-cam commenter
That's what happens when your borders are drawn by people with no idea what they're doing. Most of these countries have no reason to exist, it's no wonder they're so unstable.
To catastrophe
@@earthtoimani You have to go to cro-magnon to have an argument about the incompetence of South African leaders? Some humanoid evolved beyond cro-magnon or whatever, some did not, apparently. Poor South Africa.
Stuff like this makes me so grateful I am a Nigerian. Unlike SA, we didn't have any massive preexisting infrastructure or wealth built by whites. So we actually had to work hard as hell to improve and we also kept many things the British left us like capitalism, democracy, and federalism because we actually know what works. My country has many issues and load shedding too but we are far better than South Africa in many more ways and future prospects. Our electric grid, though flawed, is undergoing rapid modernisation and we never let our politicians rest on it. Our national unity is better. Our economy is larger (we literally outpaced SA as the largest economy in Africa). Our industrialization is increasing, not declining. Our political system, though flawed, is not as crippled and corrupt as South Africa and our politicians don't use the excuse of "apartheid" race to secure power. Plus, we are not known as a haven for xenophobic killings and murders. Good luck to South Africa
Nigeria got wealthy by selling Africans to Portugal lmao
.......and your government will be receiving funding from USA and NATO to start a proxy war with Russian/Wagner backed coup leaders of Niger, Mali and Chad. Congrats, this will be Nigeria's decade!
@orboakin8074 exactly
Im pretty sure they aren’t xenophobic killings, but killings due to race.
Apart from that, I agree with u
South Africa was destined for the disaster. America and Britain were instrumental in 1994😢ANC triumph. America was looting South Africa under ANC where by they could not under white government
Do you have ANY idea how disheartening it is to live in South Africa for everyone but especially as a white man. We are treated like second class citizens and we're not allowed to work because of the never-ending black economic empowerment. This while everything is falling apart around us and our culture and language are systematically eradicated. This all has a huge psychological impact on us - we are a damaged people. I'm in my 50's and I'm too old to emigrate. The irony is that I was openly against Apartheid AND voted, like the rest of the majority of whites, to end Apartheid. And now we are openly prosecuted and murdered while the rest of the world (particularly the so-called Liberals) are turning a blind eye.
I am very sorry your life has turned out like that. I hope it gets better for you. But it is good for the truth to be told about African corruption. You are called a rascist for calling it as it is.
I think the world turns a blind eye. Because a lot of your talking points mirror the talking points of white people in the U.S. who cry wolf. And try to pretend that any sort of Pro Diversity or Pro Equity laws are Anti-white, or Racist.
I understand that the situation in South Africa is a lot different than the situation in the United States. But in America we look at things from an American perspective.
And you have the misfortune of having talking points that are eerily similar to our white supremacists.
You might think that you are too old to Emigrate. But if I were you, I would still give it a shot. If south Africa is as bad as you say. Then I'd say that the U.K. or the U.S. would be an improvement.
Both countries have their problems. But no one in New Jersey or Liverpool is going to stop you from working. If you move to the states, then Best Buy or Wall Greens will happily hire you.
I'm with you on this brother and prayers to you. Elon Musk has been mentioning it
Cry me a river. During apartheid it was 100 times worse for blacks.
You voted to be murdered. It's your fault. What you thought the liberals actually wanted peace and equality? Seriously? They want you exterminated.
This ending was never in doubt. It was only a matter of when. R.I.P. South Africa.
Kinda glossed over the immense political violence in SA. The Communist-style class murder, with a racist twist.
From functioning first world nation to third world hell hole in only 30 years! Well done guys! Viva ANC!
Functioning first world country for whom? Not for the majority of the country’s population
@@Anthony-ct3cv You don't just pull people out of primitive tribal conditions and make them 1st world country citizens. Reality just doesn't work like that. Whatever happend in South Africa in terms of elevating the majority of the peoples lives was always going to be a slow and difficult process. Unfortunately since the election of Mandela said process has been firmly in the hands of the ANC, who have proven utterly incompetent at best and pure criminals at worst. Until they are gotten rid of there is no chance for the country in future.
@@petercollingwood522Imagine that, giving power to a terrorist organization turned out to be a disaster? Who could have guessed.
@@Anthony-ct3cvthey were not built for such a society
It was a 3rd world hell whole for the vast majority of black South Africans under apartheid.
Post-1994 was never a success to disaster story. It's more something of an "Overhype giving way to reality" kind of story.
The boycotts ended, leading to a massive boom in the economy, but rather than reinvest in infrastructure the government kept plowing the money into welfare and other bribery schemes. When the infrastructure finally crumbled, well, that's now...
'Proving the Boer right'
A month ago a building burnt down in Johannesburg and many Zimbabweans and Nigerians passed away in the inferno. (RIP) our South African government blamed the fire on Apartheid even though the Anc has been in power for 30years. That's South Africa in a nutshell.
If you don’t promote on merit you doom your society to failure.
hhmmm only to an extent, merit isn't the reason why they cant even keep the lights on.
It was only a story nothing more. Mandela was no angel.
True
Corruption ruins everything
*Non-whites ruin everything
Yup.
And blakcs
@@benjaminchooby6760 not really, botswana is actually working.
@@benjaminchooby6760 racism
South Africa's leadership has successfully made Apartheid a nostalgic period for many
Like though the regime was racist and authoritarian, at least power grid was stable and crime rates were low
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Yea bc the army shot at any and every black person that walked in the streets.
@@pixeladventurer5377trade offs
@@pixeladventurer5377you mean shot at criminals.. notice how the army
Doesn’t do that anymore and now South Africa is full of criminals. Wow maybe the army was doing something right
@@lonemaus562 It might be because almost all the poor people were blacks. And poor people are most likely to commit crimes because...
They need money.
Its a mystery! Who would have thought this would happen?
Nobody could have seen this coming. Nope, no way. Totally unforeseeable.
Funny how no one talks about Nelson's habit of organising certain volatile materials to be placed in certain populated areas. I guess when you are "awarded" a Nobel Peace Prize, history disappears....
So I guess that Mandela is a fake "friend of mankind" "great wise man", just as Che Guevara and Lenin are.
You are the ONLY one that sees this my friend --- i wholeheartedly agree with you ---- NOBODY seems to remember that Mandela was responsible for 5 people's death in the early seventies --- a petrol station was blown up with explosives in the so-called struggle -------- now he is an "icon"
Zuma reminds me of Hugo Chavez: populist, domineering, and incompetent.
Zuma wasn't incompetent. He is a criminal in tbe same vein as Donald Trump.
2000s left wing populists ruined the global south
Zuma reminds me of Najib Razak: essentially the same but with a privilleged background and fairly good manners.
Zuma reminds me of every other socialist/ communist.
@@KopitioBozynski How?
it hurts to see how poorly the anc has managed the country.
We have been trying to tell them for a few years now
Ray Charles saw it coming….
Tho I don't know the details of Zuma's arrest, as a person from a country suffering from corruption (currently ranked 112th in the world for corruption perception index), a president getting convicted of corruption isn't necessarily a sign of improvement. It is more often than not, political struggles and corruption charges are just the ammunition. Every politician is corrupt in our country, getting in prison for it just means you're bad at political manouvering.
A really important angle to consider! Thank you for sharing.
@@spectacles-dm yea i must point out something to you hear. SA ranked among Japan & Belgium in the Corruption Perception Index in 1995. Today it ranks closer to Brazil and Colombia.
For all its human rights violations, the apartheid regime didn't rob the fiscus as the ANC has done
The civilised democracies we’ve taken for granted in the West took generations to create and have been revealed to be infinitely fragile. Africa is the default for humanity, the West is the exception. And we’re throwing it away.
a vote left is a vote for crime decay and destruction always was always will be.
"With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we will liberate this country"
Winnie Mandela
When criminals rule the righteous groan.
A fascinating look at how South Africa has run into very troubling recent problems with politicians prioritizing their own wealth and their party over the state and their people. However it gives me hope that not just an independent media, but also the courts have at least been able to stop the worst offenders. A good sign that there is still much reason for hope. As you state in the video, there are still hard problems to solve, but there is good reason to still hold out hope that SA can be a vibrant and prosperous democracy.
Another excellent video! With your production quality and extremely interesting topics about democracy around the world, I can hardly believe you are only at 6.1K subscribers (as of writing this comment).
And pigs will fly.. billions have been pored into all of Africa since it became free of colonialism. Money down the the drain. China is now finding this out, soon the new Soviet Union (Russia) will also find out. If you want to use your money wisely give to Southern Asia or India which will become developed
Very interesting video. I'll admit I never thought about how possibly the ANC's time during apartheid could have affect it's accountability record. But it's interesting to hear how Jacob Zuma truly cause a lot of the current problems in SA (though not all of them). one thing that should be mentioned was he used to be head of ANC intelligence during Apartheid as well.
Mike Dincan has a great elaboration of how the Bolshevik Revolutionary Party lead ro the calculating and callous intellectual-fanatics of the early USSR Commubist Party.
Oh shi-
Zuma is not the biggest problem.
The biggest problem is that, black people can't govern.
It’s an intentional distortion of history. The rot started before Zuma’s tenure. Thabo Mbeki failed us alot. From letting Zimbabwe collapse and causing mass immigration into SA, to selling off strategic state owned entities like Iscor to Arcelor Mittal, pushing up prices of steel and collapsing the Vaal Triangle’s thriving economy. Don’t take everything at face value, try read a bit more.
Zuma was also the chess champion on Robben Island. Bearing in mind that there were some seriously smart people, that is impressive. The man plays the fool, but he is not a fool. I mean, he's got billions in the bank as well as a paid for "fire pool".
No mention of the Mandela family corruption.
And murder .
The narrative 😂
And communist views
Well, the hard truth is that the whole of Africa as a continent has to blame itself for the shameful conditions it has plunged in the abt 70 years following the end of colonialism. They keep blaming colonialism and the "white men" w/out realizing that this blaming game plays a big part in their constant failures by removing and therefore not seeing their own huge responsabilities and failures. Moreover, the paradox is that now they are happily falling in the hands of horrible countries like Russia, China and Iran... again another example of how they are unable to stand on their own feet
But you forgot to mention zuma never served his sentence as his friend in the ANC helped him get out over and over again
Which sentence? Do you even know what he was jailed for?
This video is based on untrue stuff. Zuma is not jailed for corruption but for defying a commission with facts that a judge is bias.
The truth & reconciliation that was done by Mandela , Botha who is an ex President did not attend from the get go. Was he arrested? No
Zuma has attended for two + years and gave testimony but got to a point where , according to him the judge was bias and allowing other people to not account. I'm not defending him but I'm defending facts. People don't look at the whole spectrum but always want to push propaganda and allow themselves to be brainwashed
@@mhlengestmbonambifunny how everyone is supposedly biased against Zuma. Everyone from the newspapers to the courts is biased against poor Msholozi.
Too bad about Kwesi I'm sure she was bias too.
I am a South African I'm impressed by your work bro...big ups
Vote wrong once and your country is gone
South Africa was a mess when I visited in 2011. I can't imagine how it is now. The first thing my saffa friend told me when he picked me up from the airport was to always be aware of my surroundings, no matter where we went. In the USA, ADT is an alarm company. ADT also operates in South Africa, but as an Armed Response Unit. They skip the useless cops and send their own private mercenaries.
In addition - every middle class or upper class house is in a gated community with armed gatekeepers. The only open neighborhoods are the slums. And those are true slums that make skid row in LA look upscale.
I recall in Tanzania in the 60s/70s. My African co workers whispered on many occasions their country was far better off when the Mzungu ran it. London Heathrow airport had a steady stream of near empty planes landing for shopping trips to Oxford street. Politicians wives returned and filled the plane with goodies for themselves and fellow politicians. The Tanzanian people carried on living in poverty Sad really. Probably still happening all over the world
I'm glad they haven't completely devolved into civil war, but man am I gladder that the gov't during apartheid gave up their nukes before leaving power. This country was always going to be dangerously unstable.
Good and balanced analysis of the challenges facing South Africa. Mbeki and Zuma have failed to build on Mandela’s legacy of ending Apartheid. Sad that leaders have used patronage to reward their families and supporters.
They didn;t end apartheid, they simply redefined who would, as the song "Democracy" by Leonard Cohen went, "who would serve and who would eat".
@andrewlim9345 what do you mean? This is the fruit of Mandela's legacy
Indeed, for every paragon of democracy, there are always a cavalcade of opportunists looking to enrich themselves off of such things.
Mandela himself was disaster 😂😂
Shame on the afrikander aparthaaid never gave the english boors a change in politics
A sad story given SA's rich history but it's hard to ignore that a lot of what has happened, has happened. A hopeful ending remains in sight for the country though and many who live here, like myself, believe in South Africa figuring it out!
a sad story indeed, but we too believe today’s challenges can be overcome. As we said, real democratic competition and time will be key…
hope they can fight corruption but don't get the blowback
@@pedroavellarcosta9389I hear you, but we can't be too careful.
You are screwed Buddy
i plan to study in south africa in 5 years. do you find this as a likely thing to happen based on the current situations?
Some cultures just beyond help
It’s a quagmire of ignorance, greed and anger - the shackles of humanity. Since the colonists left it has been this way.
Like so many other countries it boils down to a simple: corruption and nepotism. Sadly happened to my country too.
SA ranked among Japan & Belgium in the Corruption Perception Index in 1995. Today it ranks closer to Brazil and Colombia.
For all its human rights violations, the apartheid regime didn't rob the fiscus as the ANC has done
@@lm_b5080 Good points! I didn't know that.
The picture this video paints is far more rosy than what is actually happening in South Africa. Zuma, despite what this channel suggests, was convicted, not of his crimes, but rather in contempt of the commission set up to investigate state capture (where Zuma essentially sold the government to the Guptas, a wealthy Indian family), Zuma spent a few months in prison before being released on "medical grounds". Some time ago the constitutional court overturned that ruling, but the government dragged its feet on arresting Zuma. Today (23/08/11) he was finally arrested, only to be released within 2 hours due to a "totally unconnected" (insert laugh track here) unannounced general amnesty for non-violent criminals to relieve overpopulation in the prison system. Of course Zuma being a non-violent criminal (despite all the death and misery that his looting of the state has caused) was released, not on parole, mind you, but complete clemency. President Ramaphosa, of course, did not oppose this move at all.
Zuma, to this day, has not stood trial for his crimes, and there are few people in this country that believe he ever will.
The story of Zuma is just a cross-section of the pure corruption that the ANC has allowed to fester in this country, This is unsurprising as the ANC is so corrupt that it is doubtful that there is a single uncorrupted person of any authority in the government or in the civil service.
So no, in the short to medium term South Africa is doomed to crumble, The wealthy are either closing themselves off in guarded neighbourhoods or complexes (or simply fleeing overseas), while the rest of the country is being run by gangsters. Power cuts continue for a minimum of 2 hours a day, if you are lucky, and sometimes going as high at 10 to 12 hours a day - and this in turn is chasing off business.
The 2024 election approaches, and while it is predicted that the ANC will fall below 50% (we use proportional representation in this country i.e. tyranny of the majority) they will likely join forces with the violent, communist EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters) who are even worse than the ANC, and will no doubt demand that some of their more radical agenda be enacted. The ANC will comply as their power and money depend on it.
We are screwed.
My God sir, please tell me you're are white? Your so composed and are a master of English writing!?
Well said so consice and clear with the order of the day recap of politics of South Africa.
I'd say no, it's pretty hard to imagine SA would crumble.
@@bensantos3882 you don't have to be white to have good English lol
@jr2904 I am going to promote and lionize fellow English descent people. Just like the Black supremacists only show support for their own kind without any pushback, we need to encourage our own.
Yes, you're right anyone can master English but this man is the most eloquent. My hats off to him.
@@bensantos3882that’s a assumption that can be considered racist
I enjoyed the way this story was told. Clear, concise, and hopeful.
@@RoddyPipersCorneas A man can not live on bread alone. and cold hard facts might as well be the spare crusts.
@@RoddyPipersCorneasIts actually basic, but not untrue. Not that youd make the effort, but if your going to give opinions, you might as well do the proper leg work. Let me start you off with a book written by Anthea Jeffrey called The People's War, another is the Countdown to Socialism.
@@RoddyPipersCorneasNo man on this earth is ever free of bias. Also if you're not even willing to give a quick explainer on where you think he got it wrong, then you might as well not have said anything.
Really? I thought he interjected with opinion statements when none were needed. Repeating them sometimes, which just slows it down and made the piece go from fact reporting to straight opinion.
It's such a complex issue and Idk enough about it to have a fully formed opinion so i can't say one way or the other, but I can say I know which way the author wants me to go. I shouldn't know that if it were neutral
Yes, but no mention of the heavy sanctions against White S. Africa.
I think it's really important we don't learn anything from the story of South Africa. Really really important.
It's an enduring myth that Mandela liberated South Africa from apartheid, but the thing that did it was the end of the Cold War. Prior to that, the West was frightened that if that system ended, South Africa would become a Soviet/Cuban/East German satellite - rather like some states already had to the north. Therefore the West, whilst generally acknowledging the evils of apartheid, saw it as being preferable (with regard to its own interests) to what might follow it. Once East European and Soviet communism had been defeated, it was safe to end the apartheid system.
Those fears might not have happened had they actually pressured South Africa to end Apartheid and have actual democracy with full human rights and equality for all that would have made ANC less interested in getting Soviet/Cuba support and focus more on having good relations with Western and Eastern Bloc. It's that ever perpetuating and paranoiac fear of "Reds Everywhere" that leads to Left-Wing and Communists overthrowing corrupt and brutal Right-Wing dictatorships supported and installed by the U.S like the one in Nicaragua, making this a clear example of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Neither Mandela ,the ANC or the sanctions ended apartheid. White voters did in a referendum....Apartheid happened in a time with no TV or internet, state-owned radio and news=papers. Totally segregated. Work was created for whites and blacks according to their skill levels at the time, Hospitals,post-offices etc had segregated sides, equally functioning.
What South Africa needs is power sharing. It should've been done in the beginning but it must be done now. There should've been a moderate third party that can command the broad based support of and comprised of select persons from both black and white populations (and even Indians) that is pragmatic and dedicated to the betterment of all South Africans and not just racial redistribution and didn't have the baggage of apartheid to lead the country in its wake. Suffice to say, a new South Africa should've had a new cast of characters instead of the ANC and others, perhaps one like Singapore's PAP.
@r.mariano8118 which is ironic considering that they are descended from the liberal party which opposed Apartheid.
@@r.mariano8118 aren't they successors to the party that opposed apartheid?
@@r.mariano8118 And? If it's actually working then why ruin a good thing with arbitrary hiring practices that only focuses on filling quotas? That's what caused issues with most of South Africa.
They where never liberators!
The ANC was never a good party. (Read up about Camp Quatro, to name just one example. Jacob Zuma is basically the Zulu version of Lavrenti Beria.) A bad tree can't bear good fruit and a tree that has borne bad fruit has always been a bad tree.
The channel failed to mention how the South African government kicked out all the white Farmers or potentially declared a war on them, and almost created a genocide.
They definitely did not lol. The white population still controls a huge proportion of the resources and farmland and is less likely to suffer violent crime than the black population
What do you mean by almost? They are busy destroying our culture, our language and history, and those things are part of genocide. It's not just the large scale murder of an ethnic group.
Not true they did not kick out white farmers, they are still there no genocide either less than 200 killes a year hardly a genocide
Almost? Pretty sure there is a genocide going on right now.
luckily diversity is strength so it'll all resolve peacefully
Yes economy grew under Mbeki and the future looked bright, but this was at national level, corruption and incompetence at local and provincial level were already destroying SA at lightning speed. While corruption is in every country, the brand of ANC’s corruption is that of protecting corrupt people, as long as they’re committed cadres who donate some proceeds of corruption to the “movement”.
good point. You can see it too with ramaphosa - even if they try to fix things at the top, at the bottom its severely broken.
Look to the Western Cape to see how local government is done and how to elect local leaders who serve community
I find it so incredibly despressing to see how a majority of nations across the globe just deal with so much instability, corruption, poverty, subjugation etc. Some of it might have syarted with outside influences. But so mnay hage had decades of independence and just do it to themselves atvthis point not even trying to move forward. The more you learn about a nation and see it beauty and and ugly its just makes it sad knowing they arent reaching their possible potential.
My understanding is that the agricultural irrigation circle machines run on electricity so expect mass famine next. Also, many people were too poor to pay for the electricity they used and could not be disconnected therefore massive loss in maintenance therefore power outages.
You’re out of touch with reality. Famine? Most people live in rural/semi urban areas and actually survive without power. Actually, you don’t lose more than 4 hours of power here.
I was in Kwazulu-Natal for about 87 days in 1997. The fertilizer chain is breaking down according to Peter zeihan on geopolitics. Other experts are also predicting worldwide famine not just Africa. The green revolution of the 1970s was due to transforming natural gas into nitrogen which is done in Russia mostly. The war with Ukraine has disrupted the supply chain for grains also. Some South African TH-cam videos say that some South Africans have gone 12 hours without power. In any case, power is needed for the irrigation of crop circles. Your own people estimate that traditional agriculture can support 3.6M people while you have had a Black population boom to 36M. Your Zulus are killing farmers, and also destroying food processing plants and trucks.@@AJakes93
@@AJakes93for now 🙄. You realize that things are only going to get worse in SA right?
Botswana is about the only country after independence that has raised the standard of living for its people, the country was blessed with mineral wealth the government has seen fit to build on that wealth for thd betterment of the country .
In SA, it was obvious that this would be the "normal turn of events"... especially in the African continent.
The perfect example of: " A Blind Man Could See It...Comming".
Mandella was a terrorist who bombed hospitals and was fully backed by the Soviet Union, he was no hero. South Africa went from one of the most productive countries in the world to a slum, wonder what changed, you already know. Also the "black" South African is as native as the Boer who were in the region first. The Khoisan are the native people of the region still robbed of their but now by the forgien Bantu people of which Nelson was.
Thank you for making this video. It's perhaps the most accurate video made by a foreigner about South Africa I've seen so far.
THE MAN THE MYTH THE DEVIL. NELSON MANDELA. SAD BUT TRUE.
SA is simply reverting to the condition it would've been in if colonial powers had never been there. Zimbabwe went the same way. Nothing to see; move along, please...
The ANC is too far gone to be saved at this point. It’s rotten through and through.
If South Africa is going to survive, it needs fresh blood in its political system.
The Boers should have their own nation
Yeah, they had one but the British screwed them
@@longiusaescius2537Make no mistake that nation was racist as fuck.
Not in Africa
I agree with you.
In The Netherlands
Yeah I think we should open the US up for white South African immigrants only then let the rest of the nation be as Black supremacist as it wants 🤷♂️. They can’t hurt anyone once the non black people all leave
How can we blame Europe?
white man witchcraft
Easy. It always be da YT pipuls fault.
Europe blamed.
You can always blame the jews
well they're getting rid of all the 'europeans'..1-2 million have left in the last 20 years..a popular chant is "go back to europe"
@@lm_b5080 They must think Russians are not European in Niger
It all started when we let a guy who was supposedly in prison become the beacon of hope
It was all a scam
Are you suggesting Nelson Mandela was not imprisoned? This is gonna be a tough sell, bud.
@@spectacles-dm no he is suggesting that Nelson Mandela was a extremist terrorist that fucked up a county
@@spectacles-dm - you know that is NOT what he is saying. the scam was that a nasty but at the same time, clownish figure like Mandela was a 'beacon of hope'....'bud'.
@@spectacles-dm He's right, he never spent a day in jail. It was all theater, a scam.
@@spectacles-dm it was obviously instigated by the lizard people
same way as detroit. they let the animals outta the cage
"not knowing anything about detroit nor Africa"
Didn’t even talk about the farm attacks or the racism against white people.
I'm quite intrigued to hear from South Africans if they envision a brighter near future.
Yes. 🇿🇦
No. The negative trends don't seem to have an ending in sight. Some socio economic issues linger, proving difficult to resolve after close to 30years of political power being in the hands of the masses.
We do. We all know that the current government can't stay in power for much longer. All the chaos right now is a sign of great change on the horizon and we are hopeful in a better future.
What future.....?
Depends on how many factors you want to include into the conversation:
- Currently, the South African government still maintains an alliance with Russia and China. The alliance with Russia is the most damming as it places ZA in a very problematic situation (ICC wanting Putin arrested and all) and negatively affects the local economy due to other various factors (whether international relations or local corruption).
- Julius Malema (Leader of the EFF, which is ZA's Communist party) has vowed to unseat the ANC at their 10th Anniversary celebration and has even sung “Kill the boer, kill the farmer” while also making machine gun noises. This of course is a huge red flag. Whether or not the EFF takes control is debatable, but at this point anything is possible - Hell, there was a week-long taxi strike that blocked the major highways in the Western Cape because the local government implemented the National Land Transport Act and wanted to impound taxis that were violating the law, which the taxi drivers despised and started doing violent protests.
- Then of course, there is the concern of low voter turnout. The Local General Election of 2021 had a 45,86% voter turnout due to a lot of people developing Voter apathy, especially among younger generations. Granted, it's difficult to say if this would happen again, but it's difficult to say at this point. Even if the country doesn't get a low voter turnout like last time, there is still the possibility of sabotage in the voting process. At the 2021 election, I knew someone who was in a queue for more than 3 hours and another who went to vote by 20:00 but didn't finish voting till 01:00 - There were people that still came in, but immediately gave up once they saw the line.
There are too many variables one needs to consider, whether it will lead to another scenario such as Zimbabwe taking white farmers' land and forcing them to leave the country or will lead to the independence of provinces such as Western Cape, Freestate and Northern Cape.
Fascinating stuff. Y’all manage to provide such detailed analysis while also giving enough necessary background info for historical dummies like me. I know it must be a tough balance to strike each time.
Also your tv model looks sick!
Lol imagine not, including the current race hate towards white people
This video continues the false history of European rule of South Africa. How many people know the country was essentially empty when the Dutch colonized it? That part of Africa had been depopulated by internecine warfare. The Dutch arrived before tribes from the north crossed the Limpopo. Those tribes continued the murderous warfare common to tribal societies. Apartheid separated the blacks and white, but much more importantly segregated the various tribes from each other, preventing their wiping out each other.
Before abandonment by the UK and USA, the country was peaceful and prosperous. Since delivery to sub-Saharan Africans, it has sunk into violence and poverty. Tribalism returns.
Not really mentioned why the massive change from Apartheid to Majority Rule, was that in 1989, the Berlin Wall came down & Communism collapsed. This removed the threat of South Africa becoming a Soviet satellite.
You get what you vote for. The people that vote and support the ANC seem to be okay with it. Its insane🤯
There are 1000s of of very semi educated, peasant, rural black majority who are intimidated to vote for the ANC or the aligned Communist party as they know no better, with no idea of what the vote means. They are slowly learning. There is a language barrier too, as there are many languages in South Africa besides English and Afrikaans. The black leaders will keep them ignorant as it suits them.
I don’t know anything about SA politics, but I seen a video of some politician talking openly at a rally about killing white families. Is that guy an ANC party memeber?
@@mattkelly9000 he used to be the president of the anc youth league and started his own party. Economic freedom fighters. They are even more extreme, while the courts dont consider chanting... kill the "Boer" (white farmers) as hate speach. The constitution means nothing to them. Narcissistic psychopaths with no humanity. They are evil...spiritually DEAD...and millions of people vote for these political parties (criminal syndicates). As i say...its insane.
@@mattkelly9000 Malema's chanting of 'Kill the Boer' must be viewed in the context of the many other remarks and actions he (and the EFF, from which his personality is not easily separable) has taken, including the rhetoric about the possibility of him calling for a 'future' white genocide, but also including other rhetoric around the ...5 days ago
Malema's threats of force and the liberal order's rules of the .. (Malema is the leader of the EFF, a break away party he formed after being expelled from the ANC )
Part of it is born of 'they are better than the other guys' considering the other parties were complicit with apartheid i don't blame the Sourh Africans.
Well this is honestly the most balanced and fair view on the situation I’ve seen on TH-cam, could do with the filling in of missing context here and there but still good
Surely, Owobonga Ooga Booga Bonga.
No it's not. Zuma solved the electricity crisis in 2017. This video makes it seem like he made Eskom collapse. It's just propaganda. Everything said in the video is untrue. The narrator says Zuma was arrested as if it was because of corruption when it was a political crime. There is no research conducted. Just a silly video taken from eNCA 🤦♂️
3:00 don't forget the 23 year long border war, a never ending war doesn't bring back much money, and at the end of it the terrectory of suid-wes (South-West) gained independence taking it's tax paying citizens and resources with it. And 9:28 you skipped president no.3 sure he was there for about 5 months, but his entire time in office after Mbeki was booted he spent it hyping up zuma and encouraged people to support Zuma, to support his best friend.
Zimbabwe should have been an example of how not to destroy a prosperous country.
AFRICA IS MARCHING BACKWARDS
Mandela's Rainbow Nation lies are finally being exposed
Africa will just have a hard time achieving growth because of its systemic racial preference.. their government tried to remove all white people as soon as possible, made laws “empowering” native African only which is quite stupid for me, I was born in Philippines, living in Japan now, lived in Malaysia on my high school years and never felt any discrimination systematic or otherwise that’s why it’s easy to do work, find jobs or even business.
Malaysia has discrimination for Muslim Malays in their law and Japan… they don’t think highly of south East Asians I’ll just say that.
Malaysia used to favor Malays over Chinese Malaysians in e.g. university admissions, though I think that policy was ended at some point.
I almost fell out of my chair when I saw Robwords appear at 12:04. Hilarious to see an accidental cameo/collab between these two youtubers.
They forgot what Mandela told them to forgive and forget and move on. Nowadays its reversed apartheid.
People want to take revenge rather than learn how to properly run a country and its infrastructure. A lot of people take the power grid for granted and don't realize the effort required to maintain it.
The electric plants is a huge issue. Last I heard was they are talking to a Chinese Electrical Contractor about repairing the plants and be able to stay in a budget. But the two previous companies who looked over the plants stated the plants need to be replaced due to years of neglect. Bottom Line: The money just isn't there. Replacing those plants at todays prices are astronomical more than SA's combined GDP. It is going to be the way it is right now for a long time. Also, pray that petrol prices don't skyrocket. Running those generators cost a lot. No wonder the people who can afford to leave SA are leaving. SA is crumbling before our eyes and no one is doing anything about it except pointing fingers. There's no more national pride.
Just wait till the CCP offer to fix the power grid .....
Then wait ....
They will be blaming the Chinese for their problems.
This will happen every time, everywhere they go. it's a function of who they really are.
South Africa used to be a successful first world country. The tense says it all.
for 5% of the population it was
In 1995 I knew exactly where South Africa was heading, and I was only visiting. I think most white South Africans knew as well. Black governments are usually corrupt, but boy that's a understatement when it comes to South Africa. I would imagine most blacks were better off before 95.
They really ran that place in the ground.
Another excellent video. Keep up the good work.
The people voted for Zuma, they deserve what they got
When we told you this would happen, we were called "racists". Is it still racism if it's true?
Yes, it's still racism because race has nothing to do with it. Look at other countries like Nigeria in Rwanda that are turning the corner and starting to do much better.
@@jasondashney a low bar to reach. P. W. Bota never let the lights go dark or the reservoirs run dry. It's laughable to think Rawanda or Nigeria ever EVER becoming nuclear powers.
@@jasondashneyWell then racism isn’t bad, something can be racist and true at the same time
The moral problem of south Africa is that it went from a racist minority state to a racist majority state.
then why do you have a racist fascist man as a profile pic?
@CentauriSphere because America was better under Trump.
Also, you'll have to remind me, but has Donald Trump confiscated farms from black farmers the way South Africa steals from white farmers? Does he lead rallies where everyone yells "kill the blacks" like the black South Africans yell "kill the boer"?
If the world had any sense, we would rescue all of the white south Africans, evacuate them, and blow every South African city to rubble as they left.
Then we would be handing that slum back the way we found it.
It was obvious that things would go downhill as soon as the ANC took over. Colonialism is always blamed but 30-60 years after colonialism ended in Africa that excuse doesn’t work anymore. Before colonialism Africans were a primitive subsistence level people who engaged in constant warfare. What the colonialist and white South Africans left the new black led governments was a first world economy and infrastructure. The new governments destroyed both through corruption, greed, stupidity, ignorance and ineptitude. Most Africans live much worse now than they did before their “independence.”
South Africa has become Zimbabwe V2.4.
I sincerely hope those of you who thought African democracy can work, are content with what you have created/achieved.
Thank you Spectacles for enlightening your audience.
It pisses me off knowing that some of the people back then, knew who the ANC really was, people were warned yet we still put them in power. Even without the demons they kept secret, its still obvious to anyone with enough common sense that you just don't put inexperienced under developed communists in charge of your fking country. Because of course this was gonna be the outcome, but it seems everyone had fking rainbow coloured shit in their eyes.
It seems to work just fine in Botswana, Ghana, etc. Almost as if other factors are at play.
dont worry the ones that engineered this mess got their money
@@simbamartens7192
Khama didn't jump on the Marxist bandwagon like Botswana's neighbors.
We all know what the problems in Africa are. It's just we're not allowed to say.
Are you referring to low IQ ? That's the root of the problem, IMO
Short answer: two and a half decades of ANC leadership
other countries have extremely corrupt governments too yet somehow they are able to keep the lights on and other basic functions running.
Zuma wasn't sentenced for his crimes against the country, he was sentenced for being in contempt of court. He was also then released illegally two months later.
Nelson Mandela was a murderer. Even from prison he had people necklaced. How does that feel, making him a hero?
Its so sad to see that this country would have achieved developed country status but instead the ANC screwed this up.
One of the more balanced commentaries on SA's recent past that I have watched. Thank you.
The phenomenal work done by various investigative journalist was mentioned, but mention of the Judiciary was not. SA has, thus far, been saved by relatively independent courts. Great efforts were made by the Zuma govt. to undermine this, but without success.
The road to success lies in ousting the ANC at the polls, re-introducing meritocracy and implementing the recommendations of the Zondo Commission. The size of government must be slashed by more than half and the current onerous labour laws repealed and replaced with pro employment ones. Politicians also need to abandon their egos. There... I fixed it.
You must be joking, right? Balanced?
It must be something in the water because you just fixed the problems we have in Australia ,they are the same.