@@HyenaEmpyema Either way he's certainly shown plenty of tools he has designed over the years (ie "the pick that BosnianBill and I made"). It would be interesting to see design insights and why some are close but not quite good enough. Heck, even how iterative design works for him in the context of lockpicking would be interesting.
The more locks I see on this channel, the more I am convinced that a large sector of the lock industry is mere security theatre with no real protection whatsoever.
The thing is: Most thieves cut or break locks. Sure, it might be straightforward to pick/rake/bypass one particular lock, but few thieves will have the skills and knowledge and tools to quickly get past the wide variety out there. They’ll use a sledgehammer or a crowbar or an angle grinder or a big rock, instead.
Welcome to the lock slaughtering house, where lock brand stocks are slotters wholesale. LPL can handle most within 20 seconds now with our new dimple rake technology.
SO true! 5 locks picked in a 2+ minute video! Lol! The average youtube video is close to 20 minutes! The LPL only needs 2 to 3 minutes to pick a lock in 2 to 10 Seconds!
@@HappyDude1 _If you actually have the tools and know how._ Even many people experienced at lock-picking are much less familiar with dimple locks, particularly in the US, and therefore won't necessarily have much knowledge about how they work or how to identify them, or have the right tools on hand. (If all somebody has is a bit of experience with a wave rake, which is enough to open lots of other locks, if they try to use it on one of these, they probably won't actually get very far, and they may well not even realize what they're even doing wrong) So even if these are technically easier to open for somebody who really knows what they're doing, they're still probably harder to open for the vast majority of people out there who might actually want to try, purely by virtue of just not being the same old mechanism everybody else uses in every other lock...
@@creamwobbly "Good" or "bad" is irrelevant. Obscurity can be and often is used to increase the effectiveness of many security systems all the time in the real world. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't really understand how security works. Even pin-tumbler locks themselves are essentially just an advanced form of "security by obscurity". (The only reason they work at all is because the particular pin combination used in the design of each lock is _obscured_ and not common knowledge.) Regardless of whether you like it or not, the fact is that, _in reality,_ the different design absolutely will make these locks less likely to be successfully picked by many casual pickers (which is what most thieves who even try to pick locks actually are), and therefore _in reality_ these locks will likely be more secure than many other ones which people could buy instead. And *reality is what matters.* Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely _not_ saying these locks are _good._ There's absolutely no excuse for them being so easy to rake open. However, they are still arguably a better choice than many others, even with that flaw, because obscurity definitely does need to be considered as a relevant factor in how likely they are to actually be compromised in the real world.. (And most thieves aren't going around spending tons of time studying up on different lock types and buying a bunch of relatively esoteric tools just in case they happen on the 1-in-100 lock that needs them. If anything, they've maybe got a wave rake or a city rake they made themselves by bending or filing down some wire or a bit of a windshield wiper blade, and that's enough for them most of the time. It doesn't even matter if they know these exist, considering how uncommon they are, it's probably not worth their time and money to be good at opening them anyway.)
"this Masterlock, which actually does have security pins" Wow, they're learning! "I found that you can rake through them fairly easily." The more things change, right?
I just watched a movie where the hero quickly used a folding tool just like the covert companion . That's amazing product placement since the movie was 007 Thunderball from 1965 .
I’ve never actually come across a dimple lock but I love how the Masterlock stuck with tradition and allowed a typical quick entry using a low skill attack.
@Emtu they can be as secure as any regular cut key lock, but Masterlock et al., don't want to sacrifice their profits (no different than their regular locks).
Is it not inevitable that he will release his own brand of locks? I always thought that's where he was headed years ago until he sold his own lock picks with instructional videos for all. But now I think LPL is headed that way and I also think Bosnian Bill is involved. The covert instrument gig is proof of why you need "our lock" and generates seed money for the next step. Also it's a lot harder to do than first thought so it's taking time. There is no lock that can't be picked or bypassed easily....or is there? I wonder. Cheers 🇨🇦
A lock is as simple as saying, "no." Someone who wants the thing or access to the thing either says, "okay," or decides to take it anyway. There is no perfect lock. BosnianBill and LPL explain that often. LPL is designing, creating, and selling these tools better than the (US) Better Business Bureau (no flukes). Any perfect lock would eventually be beaten. The point is to know that what you're buying can be crap. Now he's just ALSO selling the tools that prove... It's not a fluke.
@@Epicentr "A lock is as simple as saying, "no." Someone who wants the thing or access to the thing either says, "okay," or decides to take it anyway. There is no perfect lock." I would say it depends. But even if an unpickable lock would exist, picking isn't the way most locks get bypassed. For bike locks bolt cutters can portable grinders are the real threat and for door locks the rock and the window directly to the side of the lock maybe the weakness. So I agree that a lock will not stop a determined person, but it may be able to delay the person or even let them search for easier prey. If my E-Bike is locked with a high quality U-Lock and a high quality chain lock and maybe a third lock and there is an E-Bike 2m away that is only secured with a cable lock, chances are high my bike isn't the first pick tto be stolen. So the lock wasn't perfect, but perfect for the situation. On the other hand, if all your neighbors have a simple door lock and you have bars on your windows to prevent people entering through the windows and have a high security door lock, that might signal a burglar that you have something valuable in your house that needs all that extra protection. So they might pick your house instead of one of the neighbours. So, it isn't as much about picking the perfect lock, but more about the "security concept" and there are many things to factor in.
Abloy makes great locks that are suitably secure for just about any situation you might want a lock for. If LPL sold something similar, it would be redundant. If he sold something more "secure" it would be more of a novelty than practical. Lock picking tools is a market where he can actually be disruptive.
I've got a brand new dimple lock that I have been meaning to send you for a while. I've not seen you have one quite like this. It's from where I work which has hundreds of these locks as well as door locks that take the same keys. I will be surprised id m if you can get it open. There are 10 dimples on all 4 sides of the key at 3 different depths. One of these days I'll get it to you with more info.
If there are that many in one site, it is bound to be less secure. I would be interested to know if the key works both ways, or is there actually pins on all four sides? Pins on two sides, the key can be inserted at random, and still work.
I watch the LockpickingLawyer on TH-cam He makes it look so easy and smooth He rakes dimple locks with a covert companion A tool that he designed with precision and passion He inserts the tensioner and applies light torque He slides the rake in and out with a gentle stroke He feels the pins set and hears the clicks He turns the plug and opens the locks He shows us the secrets of security devices He teaches us the skills and gives us advices He challenges us to pick better and faster He is the LockpickingLawyer, the lock picking master
Can? Absolutely. Not even a complicated machine or assembly design. Will they? Nah, lock companies aren't willing to spend that extra money on your security. I'd like to see a lock with at least three rows at 60°, but that's a pipedream on another level. I remember an LPL video featuring a rare cross-shaped keyway that had four sets of pins, but even that I think didn't have many pins per side. Three? This, like the Bowley designs, isn't a niche most manufacturers are willing to put time and money into. Minimum effort is the name of the game.
I think it is because most people see themselves as being in a prison and are waiting for either morpheus or neo to show up, when in fact they really need Jesus through His people to show up to break the chains of sin and the accompanying system that feeks like bondage. Therefore they will get great pleasure for the understanding that any kock can be broken even if lpl is not an actual saviour. 🧐😎
Nice piece of kit, and well done opening all those locks. I've been watching you too long to think like some others that you cheat, you are the real deal. Thank you for posting 👍
I'm not a "first commenter", but right now I'm amazed having a "video published 5 seconds ago" notification and entering here with only 2 views :). Never before in my life.
I’m new to this just got my first kit a month ago and I’m hooked love the videos I’ve seen from him very helpful to us newbie’s order my first kit from his site and love it will be getting me a covert companion next all decked out😁thank you lock picking lawyer enjoyed this video
It would be nice if you could implement an option to customize the Covert Companion when buying it. It is a pretty expensive tool, especially if it includes several tools you dont actually need and you need to buy other expansion tools to replace the ones you dont need, which of course adds to the cost. For example, it comes with several picks (or bypass tools I guess) for warded locks, which I will never ever EVER need here in Norway (and I suspect it would be the same for many customers even in the US). So to me, including those as standard is a complete waste, and it would be nice if I could instead swap them out for something that would be more useful to me, such as this dimple rake for example. So, rather than having a set of 20 SSF tools "pre-installed" that you *have* to have included in the companion when buying it, it would be much better if all 20 tool "slots" were customizable when adding it to your cart
Having to customize all 20 pieces of the covert companion would probably make it cost more just because of the changes to inventory, labor, processes, handling, packaging, time, etc than just buying the kits of tools and selecting them yourself. It’s not a one man operation with two orders per week.
The Covert Companion hardware is shipped disassembled; if you're sure you won't need a particular tool, just leave it out of your build. (But save it somewhere, in case you change your mind later.) The selection and arrangement of tools can easily be customized for the individual user.
How do you have any money? I realized I was missing two other Covert Companion tools, but couldn't justify $70. Especially since one is listed as consumable!
I used to think raking was sort of a beginners technique and rarely effective, and that's why I never carry any rakes. But LPL has really changed my mind, and I definitely need to add some rakes to my collection.
Realistically speaking this kind of attack isn't what you want to be concerned with, the cheapest dimple rake I have personally seen was like $15, and when at least right now in Canada and the US dimple locks are so rare, and even on the most common kind of lock, lockpicking is very rare as an attack vector. If you really are concerned with the your lock I would disassemble it and figure out the dimensions of the pens and then find a pinning kit for it
I pick locks as a hobby and I can do most of what he can do. It only takes me anywhere from a few seconds to I give up and come back to it again later. Thirty forty minutes sometimes. This man is skilled. He makes it look easy but he has spent a lot of time practicing to get where he is. Pout is, don’t get disheartened when it doesn’t happen like this. It’ll come with practice. I don’t think I’ll ever be like him though
LEMME TELL YA SUMTHIN about Blackburn! Bru. I worked full time in a bike shop all thru college for rent and food. Blackburn is the *master* of good design and CHEAP manufacturing. They have a lifetime warranty because from the manufacturer to the consumer there's a 1000% markup. That $30 light? It cost the bike shop $10 at wholesale. There's a distributor markup, too. Helmets? Those shits are less than TWO DOLLARS at wholesale. Everything is insanely cheap but retails for "normal" prices and carries the illusion of quality. It isn't an "avoid" but just be aware you're _expected_ to use that warranty.
Still one thing is doesn't the need for a specialized new tool even if it's just a rake make them more secure since your usual rake or picks can be used on them?
"Can be" is the key phrase there. Like trying to use a classic key on a dimple lock, it's possible for it to work, but far from ideal to have the indentions going sideways to the pin orientation. I've picked the Blackburn in the same way LPL showed in the original video that featured it. Yes, it worked, but not nearly as fast as shown here with the proper tool. Dimple locks are going to have to up their warding game to beat this tool.
You know he's got a massive collection, right? Most of his videos feature one lock, and this is video # 1546. Even discounting a third for tool and other videos, ten locks would be only 1% of the thousand we've seen. This video features half of that. Not that this actually _is_ jiggling, but...
And this is why I recently picked up a set of keyed-alike Kawahas [1397]. When you can fit one of _those_ tools in a covert companion...well then I'll be both thoroughly impressed and slightly terrified at the engineering involved.
To mangle a quote from Die Hard with a Vengeance: "Of course I know how to pick this lock. Only problem is..." (rakes open the lock), "it takes too goddamn long!" Dangit. Now I want to see Sam Jacksson do a guest appearance on LPL.
I can answer this! Older, used, worn locks are much much harder to pick. I've got one that I can barely pick with the proper key. I can't imagine anyone could open it with a lockpick.
The US educational system starts in Kindergarten reading Dick and Jane Primer books. The LPL uses a Masterlock to teach us how easy the Dimple Rake is to use. Coincidence? Nope...
You can see the pins when you look inside the keyway, especially if it's not warded at all like the Blackburn - that key's end profile is just a rectangle. These all have the pins 90° to the classic styles, poking out from a long side. Same kind of pins, just sideways. (Some fancier ones have pins inside pins, but I don't think that would be easily visible.)
Why would that work? IMHO, the pins in this lock are all the same diameter... the key just have wider and narrower dimples to allow the same slope on them for the dimples that need to be deeper. I.e. having just holes in the "rake" would cause it to get stuck, and the different diameter of the holes would not do anything. Unless I completely misunderstand how thele locks work - can somebody confirm or counter my point?
Hm. Reminds me of hose clamps, but I don't think the stripe holes on those would be big enough. It'd probably wear keypins down pretty fast, relative to the pressed dimples.
Holes might allow them to extend too deeply for the raking action and actually snap the pins inside, he DID say the Dimple lock pins were proving to be 'fragile'.
OK, gotta ask - how does one know that I am looking to open a "dimple" lock and need to use this tool v/s a rake? Is there a "giveaway" I can see by just looking at the lock?
Dimple keyways have the pins sticking out the long side of the keyway instead of the classic style where they're on a short side (usually called top or bottom, unless you're talking auto keys). If the keyway is in the same up-down orientation as an older typical door lock, the pins are rotated 90° to one side or the other. This is definitely visible from the front.
You can always see the first pin. If its on the edge you have regular pins, if it's on the flat, it's a dimple. You must be able to see the pin since the key, which slides straight in, must touch and lift it.
How do you identify what kind of key a lock uses without having seen the key? I don't see any notable differences at first as to what strikes these as dimple locks.
Looking at and in the keyway will tell you the shape and type of key blade. Classic style locks have the key pins on the "top" or "bottom," that being one of the short sides of the rectangular keyway area, and mate to cuts in the key's thinner edge. Dimple locks have the pins on one or two of the long sides, which mate to the drilled dots on the side of the key. The keys are often also bisymmetrical, like auto keys. Fancier dimple locks may include pins inside pins, and/or embedded magnet pins.
I believe it is double sided, hard to catch but just before he opens the bike lock from Walmart you get a glimpse of the other side and can see dimples in the tool.
The dimples are usually on one side. They're clearly visible if you look into the keyway, especially if there's no warding like the Blackburn. The rake has its bumps on one side only, with the second and fourth being smaller than the other three. You could turn it to pick both sides if necessary, on a two-sided dimple keyway. It's pressed sheet metal, so you see the indentions from the back side of the tool.
The problem with Dimple locks in general is that when you limit the max keycut to the thickness of the key instead of the blade, you either have to increase manufacturing costs (improve tolerances for all the parts in the lock) or you'll end up having less effective keycuts per pin. And if you were to increase manufacturing quality / costs, using the traditional blade would improve security even more. Something like Assa Ruko with Assa 700 core, high quality and tapered pins with traditional key design, is close to the best you can do with pin tumbler design.
You can see the pins when you look inside the keyway, especially if it's not warded at all like the Blackburn - that key's end profile is just a rectangle. These all have the pins 90° to the classic styles, poking out from a long side. Same kind of pins, just sideways. (Some fancier ones have pins inside pins, but I don't think that would be easily visible.)
My only question is wil there be a standard verision of the dimple rake on covert instruments soon? Of course i already bought my companion version lol
so i actually got one of those folding bicycle locks for my bike, except its a wheel combination type instead of the dimple lock, ive been wondering if the standard notched decoder would work on it
It comes down to what most locks you come into your area me i have a set of both hooks x2 and Thinking of taking some sheet metal scrap and making my own
LPL - Are you going to come out with a full size/handle version or set of dimple rakes on CI too? I know there are many dimple picks online, but products on Covert Instruments are always high quality. It also sounds and looks like the ole LPL went through a lot of testing, r&d, trial and error, etc… rather than just putting out a generic dimple rake.
Can you make this with a handle as well? e.g. something similar to the handles in the notched decoder bundle? I don't know anyone else selling dimple rakes in the US right now so I would be interested.
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What an amazing series of flukes!
not really sure though, better make a second pass
You ain't lying
Came looking for this comment.
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@@dougaltolan3017 Same old same old. 😂
Seeing prototype tools that didn't cut it, and why they didn't, would be very interesting.
This.
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Agreed. A peek into some R&D insights would be interesting.
Do it
@@HyenaEmpyema Either way he's certainly shown plenty of tools he has designed over the years (ie "the pick that BosnianBill and I made"). It would be interesting to see design insights and why some are close but not quite good enough. Heck, even how iterative design works for him in the context of lockpicking would be interesting.
even when Master tries to use security pins, they can still be raked, marvelous
On brand for Master Lock
LPL's accountant doing his taxes for the first time: "You want me to write off HOW many locks on your taxes?"
Lol, nice.
More like asked him about buying close to a ton of locks, and putting half of them into the scrap bin instead.
@@SeanBZA 1/2? You mean 99.9 %
Who would tax a lock purchase? America doesn't have VAT
"This is the lock picking accountant, and today..."
The more locks I see on this channel, the more I am convinced that a large sector of the lock industry is mere security theatre with no real protection whatsoever.
You would be correct.
Watch these videos or read a locksmithing catalog and you quickly realize that locks are only to keep honest people honest,
Locks exist to keep honest people honest
The thing is: Most thieves cut or break locks. Sure, it might be straightforward to pick/rake/bypass one particular lock, but few thieves will have the skills and knowledge and tools to quickly get past the wide variety out there. They’ll use a sledgehammer or a crowbar or an angle grinder or a big rock, instead.
Locks keep honest people honest
I was like:
"Oh a 2+ minute video!"
And then I was like:
"Oh..."
Welcome to the lock slaughtering house, where lock brand stocks are slotters wholesale. LPL can handle most within 20 seconds now with our new dimple rake technology.
@@An_Attempt 20 seconds??? Sorry, you mean less than 2 sec, don't you? :-)
@@petergrunendahl2074 Up to a Maximum of 20 seconds, not his average time. That rake needs to be changed out ever 500 locks or so.
SO true! 5 locks picked in a 2+ minute video! Lol! The average youtube video is close to 20 minutes! The LPL only needs 2 to 3 minutes to pick a lock in 2 to 10 Seconds!
((laughing)) @ the newbie.
I think that they are relying on dimple locks looking intimidating.
Or rather, that the consumers would think that they are intimidating for the thieves
Security by intimidation. :-)
Most of them or more easy to open then a normal lock 😂
@@HappyDude1 _If you actually have the tools and know how._ Even many people experienced at lock-picking are much less familiar with dimple locks, particularly in the US, and therefore won't necessarily have much knowledge about how they work or how to identify them, or have the right tools on hand.
(If all somebody has is a bit of experience with a wave rake, which is enough to open lots of other locks, if they try to use it on one of these, they probably won't actually get very far, and they may well not even realize what they're even doing wrong)
So even if these are technically easier to open for somebody who really knows what they're doing, they're still probably harder to open for the vast majority of people out there who might actually want to try, purely by virtue of just not being the same old mechanism everybody else uses in every other lock...
@@creamwobbly "Good" or "bad" is irrelevant. Obscurity can be and often is used to increase the effectiveness of many security systems all the time in the real world. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't really understand how security works.
Even pin-tumbler locks themselves are essentially just an advanced form of "security by obscurity". (The only reason they work at all is because the particular pin combination used in the design of each lock is _obscured_ and not common knowledge.)
Regardless of whether you like it or not, the fact is that, _in reality,_ the different design absolutely will make these locks less likely to be successfully picked by many casual pickers (which is what most thieves who even try to pick locks actually are), and therefore _in reality_ these locks will likely be more secure than many other ones which people could buy instead. And *reality is what matters.*
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely _not_ saying these locks are _good._ There's absolutely no excuse for them being so easy to rake open. However, they are still arguably a better choice than many others, even with that flaw, because obscurity definitely does need to be considered as a relevant factor in how likely they are to actually be compromised in the real world..
(And most thieves aren't going around spending tons of time studying up on different lock types and buying a bunch of relatively esoteric tools just in case they happen on the 1-in-100 lock that needs them. If anything, they've maybe got a wave rake or a city rake they made themselves by bending or filing down some wire or a bit of a windshield wiper blade, and that's enough for them most of the time. It doesn't even matter if they know these exist, considering how uncommon they are, it's probably not worth their time and money to be good at opening them anyway.)
"this Masterlock, which actually does have security pins"
Wow, they're learning!
"I found that you can rake through them fairly easily."
The more things change, right?
I just watched a movie where the hero quickly used a folding tool just like the covert companion . That's amazing product placement since the movie was 007 Thunderball from 1965 .
Nothing new to "Jacknife" picks but I don't know when the first came along.
@@P_RO_ Dr Thorndyke has something he jokingly calls his "smokers companion" and that's from around the 1920s.
My name is Lawyer, Lock Picking Lawyer.
I like my Masterlock raked, not stirred. :)
I think they are all flukes. You opened them once. I'm not convinced.
You must be new to his content, welcome :D
@Vltrykin Selezen you must be new, it's a joke.
Usually on the second try LPL opens the lock even faster as he's gotten the hang and feel of the individual mechanism. 😁
@@dunmeroverlord LOL, his comment reminds me of LPL's comment on the risks of emulating the crayon sucking student down the back.
@@ThePaulv12 hahahaha
Back to the drawing board boys, the LockPickingLawyer has a new tool.
... said no lockmaker company ever.
@@roadrunner9843 Locksmiths? or Lockmakers?
A lock company that cares about security? What madness!
@@roadrunner9843 In with the sly edit I see.
This is the same tool he always used to turn all the discs before inserting the pick that BB and LPL made .
I’ve never actually come across a dimple lock but I love how the Masterlock stuck with tradition and allowed a typical quick entry using a low skill attack.
I'm really glad you're an attorney. Nobody's personal belongings would be safe with you wandering the streets. thanks for all the content you post.
Yeah! we have a new friend! welcome to the long awaited for... drumroll... Dimple Rake!
My grandma always told me dimples were cute. She'd change her mind after watching this vid.
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They are still cute, they're just not secure.
On cheeks they're cute. On cheap locks, less so.
I can put these on earring wires and look totes adorb wherever I go.
@Emtu they can be as secure as any regular cut key lock, but Masterlock et al., don't want to sacrifice their profits (no different than their regular locks).
Thanks for the introduction to the new tool and showing it in action.
I'm going to buy that Britanium lock. It took about 6 seconds for LPL to rake open, making it one of the toughest locks ever featured. Gotta be good.
Lol! So true!
Anything you make is always worth putting into the covert companion. If I could afford it, I would own them all.
he keeps repeatedly winning the lottery
My only question, is do you maintain a SKU on the website that matches your personal loadout every time you update it?
I’m telling y’all, LPL needs to design and make his own lock.
Is it not inevitable that he will release his own brand of locks? I always thought that's where he was headed years ago until he sold his own lock picks with instructional videos for all. But now I think LPL is headed that way and I also think Bosnian Bill is involved. The covert instrument gig is proof of why you need "our lock" and generates seed money for the next step. Also it's a lot harder to do than first thought so it's taking time. There is no lock that can't be picked or bypassed easily....or is there? I wonder.
Cheers 🇨🇦
A lock is as simple as saying, "no." Someone who wants the thing or access to the thing either says, "okay," or decides to take it anyway. There is no perfect lock. BosnianBill and LPL explain that often.
LPL is designing, creating, and selling these tools better than the (US) Better Business Bureau (no flukes). Any perfect lock would eventually be beaten.
The point is to know that what you're buying can be crap. Now he's just ALSO selling the tools that prove... It's not a fluke.
@@Epicentr "A lock is as simple as saying, "no." Someone who wants the thing or access to the thing either says, "okay," or decides to take it anyway. There is no perfect lock."
I would say it depends. But even if an unpickable lock would exist, picking isn't the way most locks get bypassed. For bike locks bolt cutters can portable grinders are the real threat and for door locks the rock and the window directly to the side of the lock maybe the weakness.
So I agree that a lock will not stop a determined person, but it may be able to delay the person or even let them search for easier prey. If my E-Bike is locked with a high quality U-Lock and a high quality chain lock and maybe a third lock and there is an E-Bike 2m away that is only secured with a cable lock, chances are high my bike isn't the first pick tto be stolen. So the lock wasn't perfect, but perfect for the situation.
On the other hand, if all your neighbors have a simple door lock and you have bars on your windows to prevent people entering through the windows and have a high security door lock, that might signal a burglar that you have something valuable in your house that needs all that extra protection. So they might pick your house instead of one of the neighbours.
So, it isn't as much about picking the perfect lock, but more about the "security concept" and there are many things to factor in.
@@livinghypocrite5289 Exactly, it's more about security than a good lock.
Abloy makes great locks that are suitably secure for just about any situation you might want a lock for. If LPL sold something similar, it would be redundant. If he sold something more "secure" it would be more of a novelty than practical. Lock picking tools is a market where he can actually be disruptive.
I've got a brand new dimple lock that I have been meaning to send you for a while. I've not seen you have one quite like this. It's from where I work which has hundreds of these locks as well as door locks that take the same keys. I will be surprised id m if you can get it open. There are 10 dimples on all 4 sides of the key at 3 different depths. One of these days I'll get it to you with more info.
Sounds a great challenge, please send it soonest.
O boy a 3 minute video....Usually only takes 1 1/2min to open a lock...NOTHING can stop LPL not even a fluke...
If there are that many in one site, it is bound to be less secure.
I would be interested to know if the key works both ways, or is there actually pins on all four sides? Pins on two sides, the key can be inserted at random, and still work.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
Pretty sure it called itself top security is because all the security was on the top side of the lock
I watch the LockpickingLawyer on TH-cam
He makes it look so easy and smooth
He rakes dimple locks with a covert companion
A tool that he designed with precision and passion
He inserts the tensioner and applies light torque
He slides the rake in and out with a gentle stroke
He feels the pins set and hears the clicks
He turns the plug and opens the locks
He shows us the secrets of security devices
He teaches us the skills and gives us advices
He challenges us to pick better and faster
He is the LockpickingLawyer, the lock picking master
I think LPL should pin this comment :D
Very nice new addition to the set. Dimples are showing up here everywhere as well. Cheers
I'd be amazed if I could get my hands on one because when LPL drops something new it always sells out QUICK.
Can you combine a Dimple-lock with a normal key-pins? It seems like the dimples and pins would be 90 degrees out...
Can? Absolutely. Not even a complicated machine or assembly design. Will they? Nah, lock companies aren't willing to spend that extra money on your security.
I'd like to see a lock with at least three rows at 60°, but that's a pipedream on another level. I remember an LPL video featuring a rare cross-shaped keyway that had four sets of pins, but even that I think didn't have many pins per side. Three? This, like the Bowley designs, isn't a niche most manufacturers are willing to put time and money into. Minimum effort is the name of the game.
Yes but they know people won’t pay the extra cost.
@@VoltisArt most people don't carry a convert companion. And the lock is their to keep honest people honest.
Yes, but normally they are only 1 or 2 dimples. You're more likely to find rotating pins
That would be a great idea
Does anyone agree that watching LPL opening locks is more satisfying than anything else?
Really cool - Then ANYTHING else? Hmmmmmm 😊
I think it is because most people see themselves as being in a prison and are waiting for either morpheus or neo to show up, when in fact they really need Jesus through His people to show up to break the chains of sin and the accompanying system that feeks like bondage. Therefore they will get great pleasure for the understanding that any kock can be broken even if lpl is not an actual saviour. 🧐😎
You clearly haven’t discovered girls yet 🤣
Girls?!? No, not my thing! Women, yes. 🧐
@@nooboftheyear7170 very clever.
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LPL: [*Rakes 5 locks in 1 minute*] I am pretty happy with this result.
Nice piece of kit, and well done opening all those locks. I've been watching you too long to think like some others that you cheat, you are the real deal. Thank you for posting 👍
I'm not a "first commenter", but right now I'm amazed having a "video published 5 seconds ago" notification and entering here with only 2 views :). Never before in my life.
Covert Instruments the Swiss Army knife of lock smiths everywhere.
Are there features that are apparent on the exterior of the lock that indicate the core has a dimple pin design?
I’m new to this just got my first kit a month ago and I’m hooked love the videos I’ve seen from him very helpful to us newbie’s order my first kit from his site and love it will be getting me a covert companion next all decked out😁thank you lock picking lawyer enjoyed this video
It would be nice if you could implement an option to customize the Covert Companion when buying it. It is a pretty expensive tool, especially if it includes several tools you dont actually need and you need to buy other expansion tools to replace the ones you dont need, which of course adds to the cost. For example, it comes with several picks (or bypass tools I guess) for warded locks, which I will never ever EVER need here in Norway (and I suspect it would be the same for many customers even in the US). So to me, including those as standard is a complete waste, and it would be nice if I could instead swap them out for something that would be more useful to me, such as this dimple rake for example. So, rather than having a set of 20 SSF tools "pre-installed" that you *have* to have included in the companion when buying it, it would be much better if all 20 tool "slots" were customizable when adding it to your cart
Having to customize all 20 pieces of the covert companion would probably make it cost more just because of the changes to inventory, labor, processes, handling, packaging, time, etc than just buying the kits of tools and selecting them yourself. It’s not a one man operation with two orders per week.
The Covert Companion hardware is shipped disassembled; if you're sure you won't need a particular tool, just leave it out of your build. (But save it somewhere, in case you change your mind later.) The selection and arrangement of tools can easily be customized for the individual user.
And they were all comparatively difficult to single pick.
As always the right tool makes the job so much easier.
1:55 you KNOW that was stupidly easy when even LPL starts chuckling
Awesome!!! I need to order the genesis set anyways, and always keep my covert companion fully updated, so I guess it's a good time!
How do you have any money? I realized I was missing two other Covert Companion tools, but couldn't justify $70. Especially since one is listed as consumable!
Thieves: *INSTAND BOUGHT*
I love how every lock ever made is a great advertisement for LPL.
I can wobble my rake around like that and I’m still here tomorrow night!
I used to think raking was sort of a beginners technique and rarely effective, and that's why I never carry any rakes. But LPL has really changed my mind, and I definitely need to add some rakes to my collection.
Thanks for letting us know.
I kind of liked dimple locks up to this point. I bought the Easilok a while back based on the positive build quality. Is their core also affected?
That was probably not their core totally exposed but you can see where that might be going. At least nobody has tried getting past your lock....yet!
Realistically speaking this kind of attack isn't what you want to be concerned with, the cheapest dimple rake I have personally seen was like $15, and when at least right now in Canada and the US dimple locks are so rare, and even on the most common kind of lock, lockpicking is very rare as an attack vector. If you really are concerned with the your lock I would disassemble it and figure out the dimensions of the pens and then find a pinning kit for it
Alternate title: 2 min video convincing you everything's a fluke
I pick locks as a hobby and I can do most of what he can do. It only takes me anywhere from a few seconds to I give up and come back to it again later. Thirty forty minutes sometimes. This man is skilled. He makes it look easy but he has spent a lot of time practicing to get where he is. Pout is, don’t get disheartened when it doesn’t happen like this. It’ll come with practice. I don’t think I’ll ever be like him though
When he's not arguing law in court, he's busy doing a B&E LOL
Convinced me, and now I have one in my kit as well.
It's fun to see how bad many of the locks out there are...but I would like to see reviews of some GOOD locks!
The LPL reviewed the Bowley but didn't even try to pick it. He knew he couldn't.
You're killing me man! I don't want to redo my covert companion anymore...lol
So what do you do for a living?
Lpl: "I shatter people's feeling of security"
LEMME TELL YA SUMTHIN about Blackburn!
Bru. I worked full time in a bike shop all thru college for rent and food. Blackburn is the *master* of good design and CHEAP manufacturing. They have a lifetime warranty because from the manufacturer to the consumer there's a 1000% markup. That $30 light? It cost the bike shop $10 at wholesale. There's a distributor markup, too. Helmets? Those shits are less than TWO DOLLARS at wholesale. Everything is insanely cheap but retails for "normal" prices and carries the illusion of quality.
It isn't an "avoid" but just be aware you're _expected_ to use that warranty.
Well, that did better than I expected.
Could you share some more info & maybe examples on why you settled on this style?
Still one thing is doesn't the need for a specialized new tool even if it's just a rake make them more secure since your usual rake or picks can be used on them?
It's ribbed for their displeasure..
@@greendryerlint 😂😅😂
"Can be" is the key phrase there. Like trying to use a classic key on a dimple lock, it's possible for it to work, but far from ideal to have the indentions going sideways to the pin orientation. I've picked the Blackburn in the same way LPL showed in the original video that featured it. Yes, it worked, but not nearly as fast as shown here with the proper tool.
Dimple locks are going to have to up their warding game to beat this tool.
Great. and once again he brings a new tool when I have only recently received my order. 🥺
LPL you are destroying all the lock industry. :D :D :D
I'm convinced you saw the jacksepticeye video and just started jiggling every lock you have
You know he's got a massive collection, right? Most of his videos feature one lock, and this is video # 1546. Even discounting a third for tool and other videos, ten locks would be only 1% of the thousand we've seen. This video features half of that.
Not that this actually _is_ jiggling, but...
Anything but top security🙂 Love your vids!! Thanks.
And this is why I recently picked up a set of keyed-alike Kawahas [1397]. When you can fit one of _those_ tools in a covert companion...well then I'll be both thoroughly impressed and slightly terrified at the engineering involved.
Those do look very nice, to boot.
Look at at his video dated 6th January 2022. It's about that very model.
@@BigHenFor Indeed, video [1397]. Which is both why I picked them up, and why I pointed out the video number. 😅
I like the 'Covert Companion Drop' after they've all fallen to his skill. Like a 'mike drop' but better!
To mangle a quote from Die Hard with a Vengeance:
"Of course I know how to pick this lock. Only problem is..." (rakes open the lock), "it takes too goddamn long!"
Dangit. Now I want to see Sam Jacksson do a guest appearance on LPL.
As always, I am equal parts impressed and horrified
Spendy looking visual deterrents there!
"I rake, therefore I am."
and now I'm only waiting for a disk detainer rake
How can you tell if a lock is dimple just from the outside? I assume a regular wave rake wouldn't work.
glad the U-lock does not insult the legend that is the Blackburn Buccaneer
LockPickingLawyer, you should sell your own brand of locks.
Great job, It not easy but you did it well. 👍👍
Question.....Are older, used, and worn locks easier or more difficult to pick??
Depends on how much the key way is blocked because of it
Generally older locks are harder to pick than newer ones
I can answer this! Older, used, worn locks are much much harder to pick.
I've got one that I can barely pick with the proper key. I can't imagine anyone could open it with a lockpick.
I've picked locks to an unpickable point, like to where a key pin just falls out lol
If the old lock is in good condition it may be easy, but if the old lock is rusty it may be hard by virtue of being rusty and not the construction.
The US educational system starts in Kindergarten reading Dick and Jane Primer books.
The LPL uses a Masterlock to teach us how easy the Dimple Rake is to use.
Coincidence? Nope...
Coincidence, I think not.
Dick n Jane 😂🤣🤣
Dick and Jane hasn’t been used for decades.
@@ferretyluv That must be why the US is Fucked up.
@@dans2971 I know all too well.
Very effective demonstration. Is there a way to know a lock would be susceptible to this type of rake without seeing the key?
You can see the pins when you look inside the keyway, especially if it's not warded at all like the Blackburn - that key's end profile is just a rectangle. These all have the pins 90° to the classic styles, poking out from a long side. Same kind of pins, just sideways. (Some fancier ones have pins inside pins, but I don't think that would be easily visible.)
@@VoltisArt I think I understand, though unfortunately I don't have any locks I could examine. Thanks
You make it look so easy as always 😂
Oh man, if only lock-picking sets weren’t illegal in my state
"For the first one, let's just dunk on Master Lock some more."
Instead of dimples, you can make a rake with different sizes of holes in it. It works also with two sided keys.
Why would that work?
IMHO, the pins in this lock are all the same diameter... the key just have wider and narrower dimples to allow the same slope on them for the dimples that need to be deeper.
I.e. having just holes in the "rake" would cause it to get stuck, and the different diameter of the holes would not do anything.
Unless I completely misunderstand how thele locks work - can somebody confirm or counter my point?
Hm. Reminds me of hose clamps, but I don't think the stripe holes on those would be big enough. It'd probably wear keypins down pretty fast, relative to the pressed dimples.
@@VoltisArt That might work, are you really worried about the key pins on a lock you are picking anyways?
Holes might allow them to extend too deeply for the raking action and actually snap the pins inside, he DID say the Dimple lock pins were proving to be 'fragile'.
I would say fluke but FLUKE makes some of the best test instruments along with tektronics
"I believe this one was from walmart....." 🤣🤣
Masterlock always there to represent 😅
OK, gotta ask - how does one know that I am looking to open a "dimple" lock and need to use this tool v/s a rake? Is there a "giveaway" I can see by just looking at the lock?
Dimple keyways have the pins sticking out the long side of the keyway instead of the classic style where they're on a short side (usually called top or bottom, unless you're talking auto keys). If the keyway is in the same up-down orientation as an older typical door lock, the pins are rotated 90° to one side or the other. This is definitely visible from the front.
You can always see the first pin. If its on the edge you have regular pins, if it's on the flat, it's a dimple.
You must be able to see the pin since the key, which slides straight in, must touch and lift it.
Can you show some quality locks that are hard to open
How do you identify what kind of key a lock uses without having seen the key? I don't see any notable differences at first as to what strikes these as dimple locks.
Normally the keyway that extends full width of the core is a give away, as the sides are holding the pins.
Looking at and in the keyway will tell you the shape and type of key blade. Classic style locks have the key pins on the "top" or "bottom," that being one of the short sides of the rectangular keyway area, and mate to cuts in the key's thinner edge. Dimple locks have the pins on one or two of the long sides, which mate to the drilled dots on the side of the key. The keys are often also bisymmetrical, like auto keys.
Fancier dimple locks may include pins inside pins, and/or embedded magnet pins.
Basic question for the LPL-verse: how do you know which side of the keyway to rake? Or is the rake double sided? I couldn’t tell.
I believe it is double sided, hard to catch but just before he opens the bike lock from Walmart you get a glimpse of the other side and can see dimples in the tool.
The dimples are usually on one side. They're clearly visible if you look into the keyway, especially if there's no warding like the Blackburn.
The rake has its bumps on one side only, with the second and fourth being smaller than the other three. You could turn it to pick both sides if necessary, on a two-sided dimple keyway.
It's pressed sheet metal, so you see the indentions from the back side of the tool.
2 min, 50 secs. 5 locks, 1 new tool. That is a bonus episode!
The problem with Dimple locks in general is that when you limit the max keycut to the thickness of the key instead of the blade, you either have to increase manufacturing costs (improve tolerances for all the parts in the lock) or you'll end up having less effective keycuts per pin.
And if you were to increase manufacturing quality / costs, using the traditional blade would improve security even more. Something like Assa Ruko with Assa 700 core, high quality and tapered pins with traditional key design, is close to the best you can do with pin tumbler design.
On a timed ''Per Lock'' capacity, you might have just outdone yourself LPL. Well done :)
Without visualizing the key, is there a way of identifying standard locks from dimple locks externally?
You can see the pins when you look inside the keyway, especially if it's not warded at all like the Blackburn - that key's end profile is just a rectangle. These all have the pins 90° to the classic styles, poking out from a long side. Same kind of pins, just sideways. (Some fancier ones have pins inside pins, but I don't think that would be easily visible.)
I need that in my set😊
My only question is wil there be a standard verision of the dimple rake on covert instruments soon? Of course i already bought my companion version lol
"I silently pick my jaw up off the floor"
so i actually got one of those folding bicycle locks for my bike, except its a wheel combination type instead of the dimple lock, ive been wondering if the standard notched decoder would work on it
There's one way to find out!
It comes down to what most locks you come into your area me i have a set of both hooks x2 and Thinking of taking some sheet metal scrap and making my own
LPL - Are you going to come out with a full size/handle version or set of dimple rakes on CI too? I know there are many dimple picks online, but products on Covert Instruments are always high quality. It also sounds and looks like the ole LPL went through a lot of testing, r&d, trial and error, etc… rather than just putting out a generic dimple rake.
Can you make this with a handle as well? e.g. something similar to the handles in the notched decoder bundle? I don't know anyone else selling dimple rakes in the US right now so I would be interested.
When will you have a look at the "unpickable lock" from Tim Hutt?
"...from Top Security... And, that was very fast." Well, what's in a name?
Nice new tool!
Would be nice if we could order the rake as a full size stand alone tool. So far it's only included in the Echelon pick set.
is there any lock that simply isn't pickable? Other than a sticker of a picture of a lock?
There are locks that hasn't been picked, yet.
Actually there are locks that can't be picked, but that doesn't mean they can't be opened without a key.
Yes there are locks that are very hard to pick. Among them the Bowley Lock and Japanese Key Chain.