Jesus Christ and the Old Testament: Holy Trinity- Michael S. Heiser

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  • @getx1265
    @getx1265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I never get tired of listening to Dr Heiser and his explanation of the OT hard-to-understand stuff! Besides making the Bible more understandable, he also makes it so enjoyable to learn.

  • @brucecall1595
    @brucecall1595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Father for giving this teaching. Thank you Dr. Heiser for being an obedient son. Bless you .

  • @davidsarkar6668
    @davidsarkar6668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All thanks, praise, glory, honour and The Kingdom be to Jesus, forever and ever, Amen !
    May Jesus bless this man and all the people with him who are involved in bringing out Jesus' Beautifull Glorious Truth out in light and making it easy for us to understand, may Jesus bless him and them all abundantly and may Jesus look after them all, Amen !

  • @dfacedagame
    @dfacedagame 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Genesis48:14-16 equals a HOMERUN!!
    You can’t dispute biblical fact !!! Dr. Heiser is the man. Tri-Personality is so evident in the Tanach
    YHWH, ANGEL OF THE LORD AND THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD...
    Anyone who thinks differently, take one good read of the Targums, and how the Word of God was not something John conjured up. This was well in place long before. In Aramaic it’s the MEMRA (Word) and Greek (Logos)... the Targums clearly show that the MEMRA is a seperate person of YHWH but yet the same... and the writing of Philo, a Jewish historian who mostly wrote in Greek, also will shed so much light on the Word of God and John1:1 and basically all of John

  • @MrChemenger
    @MrChemenger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No one explains these truths the way M Heiser does!!! " who led the children of Israel out of Egypt, was it the Angel, was it God, was it the Spirit? ... the Answer is yes" lol love it!! Also appreciate him when he says these texts are in the bible it is what it is we just have accept it

  • @williyoung57
    @williyoung57 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Let us make man in our image" Genesis 1:26. Also, "Elohim" is a plural word.

    • @dfacedagame
      @dfacedagame 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      williyoung57 not always. In Hebrew linguistics, even if the noun is Plural, if the verb in the sentence is singular , in turn it makes the noun now Singular also. This goes for every Hebrew sentence ever written. That’s why Elohim is singular in Genesis 1:1 because Bara ( create ) is singular in that sentence

    • @777Eliyahu
      @777Eliyahu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be plural in the same sense that english word "sheep" can be plural or singular. I tend to ascribe to the view that YHWH is addressing the divine council in Genesis 1, rather than speaking as the G-dhead.

    • @Sirach144
      @Sirach144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look at verse 27

  • @okhuibutala1640
    @okhuibutala1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 Tim 2-5,6 one God and one mediator
    John 17-3 this is eternal life
    They come to know you only Tru e God and whom you send Jesus Christ
    PS 110-1

  • @nevinholland650
    @nevinholland650 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him
    And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
    who is Jesus Christ?
    the only begotten son of God

    • @bradgeorge3464
      @bradgeorge3464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nevin Holland we forgot to read the bible were god said he is two
      i email you those scriptures when i find them. lol

    • @itakeudown
      @itakeudown 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One LOrd and One God. I guess, the Father is not a Lord, since there is only ONE Lord.

    • @albusai
      @albusai 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brad George you are one being in three parts , but you have to take the whole bible in context as he did and proves that the father and son are the same in glory and authority, I can show you

    • @OurHumbleLife
      @OurHumbleLife 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      albusai
      They are not the same though, when it was one who GAVE power and authority to the other.

    • @leonardhunt5677
      @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pairone Teaching is that Jesus said that there were going to be two who are the NT God: John 5:23- equally honored, the Father and the Son, John 17:3 to know both is to have eternal life confirmed in 1 Corinthians 8:6 as Matthew 18:16 John 8:17-18 and Galatians 3:15 Hebrews 10:9 shows two witnesses are confirmed.

  • @leonardhunt5677
    @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason for the emphasis on Jesus as Creator is because God had over 130 years stating that he would allow no other Yahweh as God but only as Yahweh, seeing God meaning an object of worship. Genesis 19:24 (shown as Gods before the Ten Commandments, Genesis 19:29), Zechariah 3:2 after the Ten Commandments.

    • @dfacedagame
      @dfacedagame 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leonard Hunt dude your so heretical and wrong about everything. If you don’t like the video just get out of the comment section. Go watch a video that speaks the opposite outlook. De. Heiser is a scriptural genius. You sound so silly with you statements that are based on presuppositions and obviously not biblical fact.

  • @termikesmike
    @termikesmike 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    c 50/51 I’ve always felt that Caiaphas uses this to condemn Jesus -and Jesus said this to essentially ‘trap him’ into this-
    what was/is the ‘real meaning’ ? -
    We are all ‘children of God’ - from now on all the Jews who will accept Jesus as Son of God will also be ‘children’ and also Messiah- anointed sons of God when Baptised in/with the Holy Spirit ( that was to come when Jesus had finally ‘proven’ himself by offering his life.This actually gets him condemned and crucified, so that all is fulfilled. How else is Jesus going to ‘give his life’ ? Rob the treasury ? start a rebellion against Rome just like the other Zealots ? That won’t work=must be an offering like the sacrificial lamb.

  • @leonardhunt5677
    @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus taught what the Father taught him, John 8:17-18, he, Jesus, and the Father, God in heaven John 8:54, are two men 'in your law', Scripture John 10:34-35, each having their own material body with body parts, soul because of nsama breath of life Genesis 2:7, and rhuach spirit formed within him Zechariah 12:1, so was the Word, God was looking toward, alongside with God John 1:1-2, having his own rhuach Spirit formed within him as has God John 8:17-18 separate from Jesus, the Word who became, was made, man so no longer a true God John 17:3 but a man 'in all things' Hebrews 2:17, 4:15.

  • @leonardhunt5677
    @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Judges 6 shows that the LORD and the angel can be at the same time even without there being a mention of the LORD written as though the LORD is always present even without mention. That is why it is that the LORD speaks to Gideon AFTER the angel has left, showing that the angel is not the LORD, and the LORD speaking while the angel is present shows that he can speak without the angel or through the mouth of the angel as he did through Moses' mouth Exodus 4:12,15 and Satan did through Peter Matthew 16:23

    • @haibanexiii1938
      @haibanexiii1938  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gideon became afraid of seeing the Angel of the Lord face to face believing he was going to die (something only attributed to God) , the Angel is the only one visible and not the Voice. Also Gideon brings the Angel and sacrifice and the Angel accepts it, wait a minute I thought only God is supposed to receive sacrifice and accept it......

    • @choicemeatrandy6572
      @choicemeatrandy6572 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      HaibaneXIII The parallel to this is in regards to the angel who announced Samson’s birth to Manoah and he declined worship...it’s all right there in the text.

    • @dfacedagame
      @dfacedagame 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leonard Hunt I’m just thinking how can you misunderstand everything. Literally. Everything you say is wild

  • @simosc2
    @simosc2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HailbaneXIII...thank you very much for the loud volume...I usually have to strain to hear Mike

  • @leonardhunt5677
    @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Judges 13:16 the angel there said that if he presented an offering he would not eat it. In Judges 6 the angel doesn't eat what is offered. Abraham offers a meal to the 3 men but no one suggests that it is an offering to the 3 men. Judges 6 shows the angel not eating what is offered so no sacrifice no burnt offering. Judges 6 makes the distinction between the angel and the LORD verse 22 and verse 23 even as in Judges 13:20-22 in which Scripture continues that it was an angel yet Manoah, perceived it was an angel yet said that he would surely die, equating the nearness an angel has to the presence of God apparently as also Jacob Genesis 31:13 called the God of Bethel an angel verse 11 but who identified himself was the God of Bethel who was also the LORD of Genesis 28:13-15(as you noted) but Jacob persists in his first impression until his death Genesis 48:16 even though Scripture never confirms Jacob's misconception. There is a danger of attributing man's misconception for Scripture truth when not supported by Scripture even Habakkuk wrote 'Your are of purer eyes than to beheld evil, and cannot look upon iniquity' yet continues 'wherefore look you on them that deal treacherously' Habakkuk 1:13.
    No, let Scripture confirm or deny what man says. Just because it is Scripturally so because they said so does not mean Scripture confirms that it is so.

  • @okhuibutala1640
    @okhuibutala1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John 1-1,2,3,4
    2 power s
    PS 110-1

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    @krzysztofkolanowski9099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @chrisepperson5597
    @chrisepperson5597 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need some help with a question, I have a messianic jew formerly a Christian who denies the trinity on my hands. He believes God can be at more than one place at the same time but denies the trinity so.
    Ezekiel 1:26 "Above the expanse was what looked like a throne of sapphire, and high above on the throne was like that of a man."
    Yes Jesus is God but why would Isaiah prophecy Jesus being born of the virgin if he's already a "figure of a man?" If so then did Isaiah put God to the test? Is this just bad theology or is there any legitimacy to my question?

    • @haibanexiii1938
      @haibanexiii1938  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus was not just a figure of a man or a manifestation of a man he was fully man, a human being and fully God. Human beings are born and grow up they don't just suddenly appear as adults.

    • @chrisepperson5597
      @chrisepperson5597 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand that, what I'm trying to explain here is the human aspect. You say he is fully human and fully God. I'm focusing on the human aspect while keeping the God aspect in mind.

    • @chrisepperson5597
      @chrisepperson5597 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      See, I have a messianic jew who doesn't know the difference between Pantheism and Trinitarianism. Plus he doesn't know the law of non-contradiction.

    • @chrisepperson5597
      @chrisepperson5597 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      HaibaneXIII So I found what I was looking for with undeniable proof there are two powers. You know how Michael goes into Judges 11, it says the Angel of the Lord is God. Then in Zecharias 1:12 the Angel of the Lord talks to the Lord, that's interesting.

    • @dralgarza
      @dralgarza 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shalom Chris, let me say that I am Jewish believer too and understand what you are going through. Let me first point out that we, as human, are in the image and likeness of Elohim which means in Hebrew "shape" and "form". That doesn't mean Elohim is a human being but it means we resemble his form like casting a shadow on the ground. That is what the Hebrew says.
      Now if you see, for example, in Genesis 18 YHWH appears to Abraham and he see's three men walking toward him. He goes to meet them and fall down on his face and says, "Oh YHWH".
      When YHWH leaves Abraham and the two messengers go to Lot he does the same thing as Abraham did and in verse 18 of Genesis 19 Lot calls both men YHWH. We then see verses 24 of plural YHWH's and verse 29 were Elohim destroys the cities. This is all in the Hebrew only were the English doesn't translate correctly.

  • @spookgriffith2892
    @spookgriffith2892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is the Great I Am, therefore has to be Yehovah. Yahweh would come from he who causes to be. Maybe his disciples had become like some today but I really think they knew Hebrew to well to have done that.

    • @juanitobarcelona7050
      @juanitobarcelona7050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big no!its impossible..read( Acts 3:13) the God who speak I AM glorify his son Jesus..its veryclear Jesus is his son.why cant you accept the truth?

    • @juanitobarcelona7050
      @juanitobarcelona7050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus came here to earth to do whos will?..his father not his own.if Jesus is also Jehova who is the son of Jesus?..trinity is nonsense

    • @spookgriffith2892
      @spookgriffith2892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanitobarcelona7050 Have no idea what you are talking about , maybe something he said but your comment is under mine and I don''t understand how it relates to what I said. Please explain if you care to do so. And I agree with you on the trinity being nonsense, there is only one Almighty and his son is almighty because the Almighty, by whatever you call him, gave all power and authority and He did it because His Son was perfectly obedient.

    • @viaini.niaivi
      @viaini.niaivi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YHWH = I AM WHO I AM.
      I AM & I AM = YHWH = THE I AM.
      FATHER & SON = MIRROR.
      FATHER & YESHUA/SON = ONE.
      GOD & HIS FACE/IMAGE = ONE.
      YAHOSHUA=YESHUA.
      YAHOSHUA=YHWH SAVES.
      FATHER'S NAME IN YESHUA'S NAME.
      YHWH=YESHUA=MIRROR.
      YESHUA= I AM.
      YAHOSHUA= I AM WHO I AM.
      YHWH = I AM WHO I AM.
      PROMISE & SAVIOUR.
      FATHER & SON.
      WILL & WORD/WORK = LIVING GOD!!

  • @anti-beast4345
    @anti-beast4345 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for clear explanation about powers in heaven

  • @omegavisualbranding
    @omegavisualbranding 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe He doesn't know that it is a pagan doctrine - Jesus was not God but in the flesh, God was manifested in Him in His fullness - . Phill 3:6-7 - "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, AND WAS MADE IN THE LIKENESS OF MEN." . Jesus has to be like his brothers in the flesh - Hebr 2:17 to be a good Highpriest, the so-called Paracletos. The third god-being named the Holy Spirit is not of this party cause he was NOT in the flesh so it is antichrist (in place of). Here you see the denying Jesus Christ in his fullest. Jesus has been tempted and feels our temptations. Hebr. 4:15. Jesus is our High priest in Heaven, the One who is One with the Father. He fulfills the role of the Paracletos the other Comforter in John 14:16. The Trinity is a Catholic doctrine made up by Constantine. I'm not Jehova's Witness. To see the real picture Who the Godhead is: Jesus is the IMAGE of God - Hebrew 1:3, Coll. 1:15, 2 Cor 4:4 Who, being in the form of God Phil. 2 : 6, 7. Jesus is given ALL AUTHORITY- Phil. 2:5-11, that means also to HIS body and that is you and me. Only Jesus is the HEAD. Notice that we are not like God, but we must be like JESUS. The Trinity is a false concept of the Roman church. If we read Eph 4:5-6 One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 1 Cor. 8:6- ONE God and one Lord. No other entity. The Holy Spirit is Jesus Himself as Highpriest, interceding for us, and there is only one of it. The Trinity doctrine is a painstaking issue in most churches and not to be discussed.

  • @SmiemWierzyc
    @SmiemWierzyc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some quick thoughts.
    Why not Three Powers? Why in the trinity the third person is like silent or something? That should make you suspicious.
    Going back to watching.

  • @johnbee1069
    @johnbee1069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genesis 19:24 is explained by the angels carrying out God's will before Sodom and Gomorrah. And the principal in effect here is what is know as the Sheila principal - or law of agency.
    Amos 4:11 is not YHWH speaking, but Amos - I find it somewhat unbelievable that the speaker would overlook such a obvious fact.
    Similarly, the speaker in Isiah 13 is none other than the prophet Isiah. - I just couldn't keep watching past this point - sorry

    • @sasquatchmeridian3094
      @sasquatchmeridian3094 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      JohnBee: Truly hard to watch...never let a 'good' lie stand in the path of truth, eh?

    • @kcp2967
      @kcp2967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Genesis 18 makes it pretty clear YHWH was present at the visit to Abraham and Sarah, prior to the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah......not an "agent."
      Who was the ‘third man’ who visited Abraham?
      detroitcatholic.com/news/gary-michuta/who-was-the-third-man-who-visited-abraham

  • @victoriasmith4208
    @victoriasmith4208 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone remind me of this verse on the old testament that says something like "and me and Jehova praised the lord saying" clearly talking about two gods, thank you

  • @bradgeorge3464
    @bradgeorge3464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ooo i forget. gods are 2
    Sorry my mistake
    god said he is 2

    • @haibanexiii1938
      @haibanexiii1938  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not gods and God never said he was 2 , its not an either or scenario. Like I said this isnt about Gos not being one.

    • @SmiemWierzyc
      @SmiemWierzyc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its about three Gods. We get it.... oooook. YHWH have not stated he is 3 either. To anticipate your response - He did not said he is 4,5, n+1 either.

    • @DreRaphael
      @DreRaphael 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯😂😂

  • @leonardhunt5677
    @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genesis 18 shows no offering to the three men, nor even the LORD.

  • @leonardhunt5677
    @leonardhunt5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God (YHWH YHWH) called himself Almighty God to Abraham, mankind, but not the Word. Only after Jesus had, as a man, risen from the dead, become the firstborn from the dead Colossians 1:15,18 was he given a kingdom, he over mankind even all the enemies of God and God over the citizens of heaven Matthew 28:18, John 5:23, Colossians 1:22-23 for Jesus and for God Matthew 24:36

  • @stevenjohnson9836
    @stevenjohnson9836 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The oldest creed that Egypt had known for thousands of years was based on the Holy Trinity, the Father God Osiris, the Mother Goddess Isis, and the Son Horus, whom Isis bore without defiling herself. (Sounds familiar)
    In fact, all the early Christians preserved their original faith while introducing some new details. Soon the Isis temples spread in Egypt were transformed into churches. The statues of Isis carrying her child Horus metamorphosed to the Virgin Mary holding the Christ which later spread with Christianity to all parts of the world.

  • @104littleal6
    @104littleal6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not sure why he uses so much of the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha is as spiritual as Harry Potter or Moby Dick.

    • @mikedebell2242
      @mikedebell2242 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because you didn't listen. He was pointing out what the Jews of the time were debating about to give a backdrop to understanding what they were thinking when Jesus said certain things about himself and what the New Testament writers would have known when they were writing. But that is context. Todays Christians run their doctrines on pretext. Few know how to listen any more or even read (not that they are illiterate). I have signs up all over the place where I work and constantly have to answer questions, the anwers to which are stated in plane view!

    • @albusai
      @albusai 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They were found at the Dead Sea scrolls, is good to have an understanding of why the ancient Jewish people were thinking

    • @haibanexiii1938
      @haibanexiii1938  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      10:4 littleal While apocryphal book can have problems they were not seen as false or made up by the people who read them. New Testament writers obviously read and even quote apocryphal books in the New Testament.

  • @shayneswenson
    @shayneswenson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s nothing new under the sun. The amount of Arianism, Modalism and Donatism in these comments is telling. The fruit of “me and Jesus and my bible” theologizing is on display. Ecumenical councils are your friend, at least if you want to exercise a smidge of humility.👍🏻☦️

  • @jaredyoung5353
    @jaredyoung5353 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ Min 39:40 Trinity

    • @okhuibutala1640
      @okhuibutala1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      PS 110-1
      John 3-16
      John 17-3
      Two powers

  • @annechester770
    @annechester770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exodus 20: 1-7
    Then God spoke all these words:
    “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
    You must not have any other gods besides me.
    “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.
    You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them.
    For I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion,
    bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons,
    upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of those who hate me.
    but showing loyal love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
    You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way,
    for Jehovah will not leave unpunished the one who takes up His name in a worthless way.

  • @mitchellc4
    @mitchellc4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello
    Jesus is the Messiah
    The Son of God
    The Son of David
    The Son of man
    The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
    The man God will judge the world through
    Jesus has a God
    There is no triune god in scripture
    Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
    John 17
    3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

  • @aaagggmmmsss
    @aaagggmmmsss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    intelligent !

  • @stevenwebb6253
    @stevenwebb6253 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus isn’t God. He called our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17

  • @thebiblerefutesheretics2054
    @thebiblerefutesheretics2054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Trinity is pagan greco-roman influenced polytheism. The Bible teaches Oneness theology. Read Dr. David Bernard’s book “The Oneness of God”.

    • @bryanlovesjesus2204
      @bryanlovesjesus2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol you’re so convinced it’s pagan you can’t even consider it when it’s in scripture. Stop being foolish

  • @bradgeorge3464
    @bradgeorge3464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    two powers??? God said He is One.
    Never in scripture you see God is 2

    • @haibanexiii1938
      @haibanexiii1938  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brad George Yes you do thats the point of the lecture, tho the point isnt that God isnt one .

    • @bradgeorge3464
      @bradgeorge3464 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HaibaneXIII holy 2
      god is 2
      2 face to face
      sorry i let those scriptures just pass by my eyes

    • @albusai
      @albusai 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unless you confess that Jesus is Yahweh you are not saved

    • @OurHumbleLife
      @OurHumbleLife 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      albusai
      Do not add to scripture.....The Bible never makes the claim you are making.

    • @calebcosman
      @calebcosman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you write that in the first 60 seconds without watching any further? The Trinity of God being One in one sense and three in another is quite clear if you have the spirit of God filling you and you walk with him daily. Walking in the spirit, with Jesus and seeking the Father's face. 3 and 1. You have to enlarge your thinking and stop putting your version of God in a box, limiting him and putting constraints on him. Saying "he can't do this" or "He can only do this"

  • @karlos6628
    @karlos6628 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can someone go get Robert King and the trinity delusion aka Kel. also bring all the fools that follow them.

    • @melkissedec1
      @melkissedec1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      C 19 Hi there...

    • @SmiemWierzyc
      @SmiemWierzyc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very lovingly christian...... Calling people you disagree with as the fools. Why are they fools? Why am I fool?

    • @nick7977
      @nick7977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      God is infinite, we are not. Let him be the mystery he is. Although You may not agree with a view, you can still be courteous and respectful toward their view.

  • @Zippora277
    @Zippora277 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sorry, but the Jews knows his GOD very well. They missed the messias not the only true GOD. In this case you bring with the trinity another false gospel to the Jews and all other believers.Sad, sad ....

    • @OmegaDonkey900
      @OmegaDonkey900 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      so you believe one God the Father of Jesus Christ and one Messiah Jesus of Nazareth and the combination of both Father and Son manifest in the Holy Spirit the true vicar of Messiah?

    • @Zippora277
      @Zippora277 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the earliest Christians recognized Jesus as the messia not as a part of a godhead. The hole Bible speaks only from the son of god and Jesus from himself also (John 17,3) and Paulus also. See als John 3,16 and so on ....

    • @karlos6628
      @karlos6628 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You say the holy bible speaks only of " the son of GOD" it is clear you are cherry picking -because the bible -the NT speak of JESUS as GOD-the apostles wrote about it- you seem only to like john 17:3 a favorite jw text-while refusing other text that speak of JESUS as GOD( I am not a oneness Pentecostal)

    • @seeqr9
      @seeqr9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zippora277 He didn't stop people from worshipping him so either he is God or he's of the devil. Nothing of God that is not God themselves, will not allow anyone to worship them. This is all in scripture.

    • @davidaragon687
      @davidaragon687 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zippora277 the Jews didnt know God very well considering they followed they traditions over The faith