Wow. That's actually a "my controller broke" that was completely believable. The snap of heavy plastic was quite audible. RIP Cap's Win-Wing. It was a real workhorse.
I flew OV-10's for seven years. As you concluded, the OV-10 has turn radius, but nothing else, as an advantage in the fight. The 4 M-60 7.62 mm MG's are mere pop guns and would not match up well against any WW II fighter's armament. Any WW II fighter pilot worth his salt would extend and return with energy and never attempt to turn with an OV-10. Your warbird pilots didn't appear to use that advantage as much as they should. I suppose they were just having fun mixing it up. I also flew the T-28 B Trojan. In the late 70's the engine was rated at 1425 HP. With a lower weight resulting in good wing loading it would handle the Bronco also. (Albeit no internal guns since it was a trainer) One admin note: You have the Broncos in USMC VMO-2 colors but are using what appears to be a USAF cockpit. Thanks, enjoyed the show. It brought back good memories.
A good bit of immersion, that flight stick snap was… my condolences to CAP, though it makes one wonder if that’s ever happened to some poor sap in historical combat
Hey glad of you to feature the bronco! One of my favorite planes as there's a handful of them still operated by Philippine air force in active service here in Philippines
A turbine can keep running in MCT all day long until your tank runs dry. (Max Continuous Thrust) But you can also keep it at CL levels for quite a while as well unlike a piston pounder (CLimb thrust) Only time you start to get into thrust problems is when you pass 100% N1, that is the overboost territory and can burn up a turbine in short order. On a Pratt & Whitney PW4000 engine, this is achieved by putting the FADEC (Engine ECUs) in alternate mode and the engines will overspeed and give more thrust.
Thanks! Continue to enjoy you and the guys & gals, I hope this is the place to offer a mission suggestion? I enjoyed the COIN aircraft vs WWII warbirds. May I suggest a scenario of the result of losses through attritition air warfare that has lost frontline fighters of all sides to combat AND unsustainble infrastructure, maintenance, parts, highly trained pilot losses that force all belligerents to enlist trainers in converted older generation trainer airframes with the available newer purposeful trainers against the adversaries? All rotor aircraft would be employed more for SOAR ops, not direct combat ops, just a thought...
The Super tucano will probably change A LOT with the upcoming versions, it should be better then a p51 but not more then that. It currently is underperforming by a lot.
For those who have tried, being on a platform that is moving in three dimensions, and shooting at another thing that is moving in three dimensions, while all the time trying to not kill yourself just being on the platform, is hard. Modern aircraft use all kind of technology to stabilise your platform which makes hitting the other a lot easier. And let's not forget the the rounds you fire are also subject the those same three forces.
The OV-10 IS NOT a dog fighter. Much of that model is wrong! With the Garret -5s had 830hp per side, boost for 1 min to 1,100hp per side, requiring overhaul after doing so, you can use this in the vertical. If you got the Garret-11s it goes to 1,400. Mine had -11s. Real max speed is 310-imph with -11s 91%N1, boost is 105%N1just helps you climb if you lose an engine. You must keep your speed up fly it like you are Hoov in a Commander, do not try and out turn anything you will just lose all your speed and be stuck slow, you will have to let off to accelerate and then they got you. What you can do is jink and wait for a mistake. If you get slow you can't jink anymore. Stay low and use terrain and obstacles. The OV-10 has a very good roll rate those spoilers make it like a snap roll but with more control. It would take a very good pilot to stay on its tail if it was jinking. Stay low If they go high, you can pull vertical but immediately dive for speed like Hoov [good job Matrix] kind of a reverse boom and zoom. Try and drag them low and force an overshoot. Warbirds that are smart will just use superior speed and boom and zoom till you are dead, that would negate all of the OV-10s advantages. Our big worry was SAMs so we stayed at treetops. Fighters could not even find us. We only made one pass on our target. We never lost a single pilot.
I was just thinking about how good a warbird could be when coupled with modern missiles, engines, and decent radar. Then you guys do this. Not the same, but close enough. Great job GR!
I really enjoyed the simulation you guys put on. I would have thought the warbirds would have won every dog fight. Have you considered reenacting the Schweinfurt-Regensburg Raid on 14 October 1943 using original warbirds without the weather delay and a version with the original weather delay using B-52Hs or C-130s? Great work. I am looking forward to seeing more from you.
I was just watching a video on a plane and heard it had a COIN history. As it was a WW2 plane and you just did COIN planes, I thought I'd mention it to the Grim Reapers. It was the Douglas A-26 Invader. In the video they said first deployed in SW Asia theater of war, and the air unit that tested it said they didnt want it. That group of pilots, 'Grim Reapers.' One model had 14 forward mounted 50cals.
Cap: love the stuff, but just for the sake of the facts NO Spitfire IX (or anything VIII onwards) has a B wing. They are all C wing or E. If you see some historical reference in squadron records to a Spitfire IXB that is not the wing that is getting referred to, it is the way they referred to different engine altitude optimisations before the LF and HF prefixes came into use
Seeing the OV-10A makes me want to see the P-61D Black Widow on here someday. I don't even think I have seen a P-61 in any WW2 simulations yet. The COIN aircraft just feel like being in a flying target, tbh.
I wonder if anyone has done a USMC OV-10D Bronco NOGS (Night Observation Gunship) version? Too bad about the damage model on the Tucano, I was hoping for an A-29 vs. P-51 battle.
@@grimreapers I kno ;) I've seen other similar scenarios as well however I'm just saying it'd be EPIC to see and you haven't done all of said mentioned aircraft in one Vid in this Request-- Super Tucano, OV-10 Bronco, Pucara, MB-339 Aermacchi, SU-25 Frogfoot, and A-10 Thunderbolt II VS Warbirds! Perhaps once the damage model's are fixed😅🙏
Now someone needs to model the PA48 enforcer so they can test it. P-51 airframe with a 2,440hp turboprop. That might actually do well against warbirds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer
Idk man. Those AGM-114L’s are pretty sweet and well worth the update I think. As someone who has been recently getting into the Apache, getting a huge increase in capability like that is a nice surprise to wake up to.
Day 4 asking for you to do a dogfight between the A20-G and the german equivalent, and or the Beau-fighter and the german equivalent, I.E. DO17, the JU series of twin engine aircraft or the ME series. Whichever ones are more convenient… really sort of just want to see a dogfight between two twin engine aircraft that have dorsal gunners because of several reasons. It forces teamwork and cooperation between the dorsal gunner and the pilot, and it also reduces the amount of angles of attack that your plane can be attacked from which adds a bit more challenge and dynamic to a dogfight. Also twin engine aircraft seem to not have the best flight characteristics, thus once the dogfights get to low altitude, the ground very much becomes a major factor in the equation. Day 5 of asking for you to do a scenario where you try and figure out just what it would have taken for Wake Island to have held out long enough for the pacific fleet to get there, or if Wake Island was just a sacrificial pawn.
You guys need to do a dam busters video wether it be with modern aircraft or with the Lancaster you need to do one due to the 80th anniversary that happened yesterday and Tuesday.
Bizarre that nobody seems to notice or care. Also bizarre that 90% of the profiles with an actual photo are Indian. I'd like to know what's going on as well.
Totally useless wish list: Ditch the Garrets on the Bronco, put 2 flat rated 1000hp PT6. Replace the 4x 7.62 MGs by 2x20mm cannons. That would be interesting.
Challenging crazy idea: Slow Mover Interception; in a total Dictators War the 23 countries composing Freedom Alliance decided it's time to rally a global war against once secret Dictators Union deploying all combat aircrafts and helicopters around the world, even trainers to support homeland defense and isolated area like Falkland, Diego Garcia, Pacific islands as American Samoa. Aside less then 500 absolutely strange aircraft as the commuter with side looking radar to controll aerospace inside an aerial test range, what remain are little more of 500 flight capability screener and basic maneuver trainers... Mission: onboard our SIAI Marchetti SF-260 armed with small pods for 7,62 mm machine gun weiting about 250 lbs each we must prevent a big drone to delivery few ounces of a bacteria in a potable water basin 🤮 We will be able to stop the disaster? Thank you hoping I was able to sell you the idea
There was a Pucara that withstood a Harriers entire 30mm Aden load and still refused to die
Wow. That's actually a "my controller broke" that was completely believable. The snap of heavy plastic was quite audible.
RIP Cap's Win-Wing. It was a real workhorse.
I felt that one in my soul. I'm so sorry for Cap!
A little duct tape and it'll be good as new.👍
Not only does overstress A/C but he overstressed his A/C simulator.
Maybe shill for another manufacturer now.
@@calumlittle9828 boy.
Who pissed in your Cheerios?
Oooh! Interesting idea. DCS needs a Skyraider
Definitely! I would not stop flying it, blasting rockets and dumping napalm all day.
DCS needs the A-37 Dragonfly
....and a Pilatus PC-9!! I'm a "sucker" for the new generation turboprop trainers/COIN aircraft!! Although A Beech T-34C would be nice, too.
And skyraider
and the PA-48 for a modernized turboprop COIN mustang
I flew OV-10's for seven years. As you concluded, the OV-10 has turn radius, but nothing else, as an advantage in the fight. The 4 M-60 7.62 mm MG's are mere pop guns and would not match up well against any WW II fighter's armament. Any WW II fighter pilot worth his salt would extend and return with energy and never attempt to turn with an OV-10. Your warbird pilots didn't appear to use that advantage as much as they should. I suppose they were just having fun mixing it up.
I also flew the T-28 B Trojan. In the late 70's the engine was rated at 1425 HP. With a lower weight resulting in good wing loading it would handle the Bronco also. (Albeit no internal guns since it was a trainer)
One admin note: You have the Broncos in USMC VMO-2 colors but are using what appears to be a USAF cockpit.
Thanks, enjoyed the show. It brought back good memories.
Thanks Brian
A good bit of immersion, that flight stick snap was… my condolences to CAP, though it makes one wonder if that’s ever happened to some poor sap in historical combat
The Super Tucano engine sounds like a weed trimmer engine.
Hey glad of you to feature the bronco! One of my favorite planes as there's a handful of them still operated by Philippine air force in active service here in Philippines
Loved watching the Broncos take of from Sembach Air Base in West Germany during the early 80s… it could hold a couple of jumpers also
A turbine can keep running in MCT all day long until your tank runs dry. (Max Continuous Thrust)
But you can also keep it at CL levels for quite a while as well unlike a piston pounder (CLimb thrust)
Only time you start to get into thrust problems is when you pass 100% N1, that is the overboost territory and can burn up a turbine in short order.
On a Pratt & Whitney PW4000 engine, this is achieved by putting the FADEC (Engine ECUs) in alternate mode and the engines will overspeed and give more thrust.
thx
Thanks! Continue to enjoy you and the guys & gals, I hope this is the place to offer a mission suggestion? I enjoyed the COIN aircraft vs WWII warbirds. May I suggest a scenario of the result of losses through attritition air warfare that has lost frontline fighters of all sides to combat AND unsustainble infrastructure, maintenance, parts, highly trained pilot losses that force all belligerents to enlist trainers in converted older generation trainer airframes with the available newer purposeful trainers against the adversaries? All rotor aircraft would be employed more for SOAR ops, not direct combat ops, just a thought...
ooo a great video idea! i look forward to watching this!
The Super tucano will probably change A LOT with the upcoming versions, it should be better then a p51 but not more then that. It currently is underperforming by a lot.
it will be built in portugal in beja. and yes things will change quite a lot
The Supertucano is a turbo prop. That speed was way too low.
For those who have tried, being on a platform that is moving in three dimensions, and shooting at another thing that is moving in three dimensions, while all the time trying to not kill yourself just being on the platform, is hard. Modern aircraft use all kind of technology to stabilise your platform which makes hitting the other a lot easier. And let's not forget the the rounds you fire are also subject the those same three forces.
The OV-10 IS NOT a dog fighter. Much of that model is wrong! With the Garret -5s had 830hp per side, boost for 1 min to 1,100hp per side, requiring overhaul after doing so, you can use this in the vertical. If you got the Garret-11s it goes to 1,400. Mine had -11s. Real max speed is 310-imph with -11s 91%N1, boost is 105%N1just helps you climb if you lose an engine. You must keep your speed up fly it like you are Hoov in a Commander, do not try and out turn anything you will just lose all your speed and be stuck slow, you will have to let off to accelerate and then they got you. What you can do is jink and wait for a mistake. If you get slow you can't jink anymore. Stay low and use terrain and obstacles. The OV-10 has a very good roll rate those spoilers make it like a snap roll but with more control. It would take a very good pilot to stay on its tail if it was jinking. Stay low If they go high, you can pull vertical but immediately dive for speed like Hoov [good job Matrix] kind of a reverse boom and zoom. Try and drag them low and force an overshoot. Warbirds that are smart will just use superior speed and boom and zoom till you are dead, that would negate all of the OV-10s advantages. Our big worry was SAMs so we stayed at treetops. Fighters could not even find us. We only made one pass on our target. We never lost a single pilot.
Spergtacular.
This. But with modern jet trainers and COIN aircraft.
DROP: (missing a wing) "It won't trim!"
😄😆😅😂🤣
It was a great start despite the damage problem! Super stuff.
The sound of a db605 is just heavenly
I was just thinking about how good a warbird could be when coupled with modern missiles, engines, and decent radar. Then you guys do this. Not the same, but close enough. Great job GR!
You've been watching Iron Eagle 3?
Somebody with good modding skills should do some turboprop refits on the Warbirds.
I really enjoyed the simulation you guys put on. I would have thought the warbirds would have won every dog fight.
Have you considered reenacting the Schweinfurt-Regensburg Raid on 14 October 1943 using original warbirds without the weather delay and a version with the original weather delay using B-52Hs or C-130s?
Great work. I am looking forward to seeing more from you.
I was just watching a video on a plane and heard it had a COIN history. As it was a WW2 plane and you just did COIN planes, I thought I'd mention it to the Grim Reapers. It was the Douglas A-26 Invader. In the video they said first deployed in SW Asia theater of war, and the air unit that tested it said they didnt want it. That group of pilots, 'Grim Reapers.' One model had 14 forward mounted 50cals.
Shame about the damage models, but still a very enjoyable video.
That central control box on the Super Tucano is like the polar opposite of an airbag. 😅
"Go British" gets shot running away...
a question I made myself a while ago, thankfully you answer it with this!
Skyraider MIA sad face.
THAT would be interesting, IF it was in-game.
@@fhlostonparaphrase Skyraider wants to be in game. Sad face.
the Bronco's guns sound like huge shotguns......
Cap: love the stuff, but just for the sake of the facts NO Spitfire IX (or anything VIII onwards) has a B wing. They are all C wing or E. If you see some historical reference in squadron records to a Spitfire IXB that is not the wing that is getting referred to, it is the way they referred to different engine altitude optimisations before the LF and HF prefixes came into use
Seeing the OV-10A makes me want to see the P-61D Black Widow on here someday. I don't even think I have seen a P-61 in any WW2 simulations yet. The COIN aircraft just feel like being in a flying target, tbh.
If they have it, I'd love to see the A-1 Skyraider vs other American warbirds (mustang, jug, and others)
I believe an A-1 actually got a dogfight kill on a jet in Vietnam.
Still wanting to see modern weapons on warbirds to make it more even .
Even Cold War weapons on warbirds. Damage per cost should work out well .
Tht OV-10 lookz like fun!! :)
“It’s not trimming out!”, hahahahahahaha
Which COIN aircraft or trainer (thinking C-101, MB-339, L-39) is best against a WWII tank battalion?
Cap has the ability to sound off like an annoyed teacher or parent at times.
I wonder if anyone has done a USMC OV-10D Bronco NOGS (Night Observation Gunship) version? Too bad about the damage model on the Tucano, I was hoping for an A-29 vs. P-51 battle.
Loved yet another of your videos. Just one elephant in the room question. A-10. No finer COIN/CAS on planet Earth. 'Nuff said.
I really wish you would have included The MB-339 Aermacchi, SU-25 Frogfoot, and A-10 Thunderbolt II😅 Perhaps in the future...🙏👍
MB-339: th-cam.com/video/6MrX0YpLdpg/w-d-xo.html
@@grimreapers I kno ;) I've seen other similar scenarios as well however I'm just saying it'd be EPIC to see and you haven't done all of said mentioned aircraft in one Vid in this Request-- Super Tucano, OV-10 Bronco, Pucara, MB-339 Aermacchi, SU-25 Frogfoot, and A-10 Thunderbolt II VS Warbirds! Perhaps once the damage model's are fixed😅🙏
@Grim Reapers Please do German Me 262 v British Gloster Meteor, the only really possible WWII Jet match up.
I would pay cold hard cash to kickstart a AU-24 module.
The 4x7.62 on the OV-10 are hitting like 30mm rounds for some reason....
Nice, My kind of viewing. (Hope you manage to fix your stick).
Wait WHT!!! Oh No da Winwing Done!??? DANG YO!!
I like the Wolverine.
Now someone needs to model the PA48 enforcer so they can test it. P-51 airframe with a 2,440hp turboprop. That might actually do well against warbirds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer
John Wayne.... The original Chuck Norris!
Not getting the Eagle in todays patch has upset me more than DCS usually does.
Idk man. Those AGM-114L’s are pretty sweet and well worth the update I think. As someone who has been recently getting into the Apache, getting a huge increase in capability like that is a nice surprise to wake up to.
Disaster....... super cap broke his wing wing 😮 sounds like such a parent thing to say to get fair.
Day 4 asking for you to do a dogfight between the A20-G and the german equivalent, and or the Beau-fighter and the german equivalent, I.E. DO17, the JU series of twin engine aircraft or the ME series. Whichever ones are more convenient… really sort of just want to see a dogfight between two twin engine aircraft that have dorsal gunners because of several reasons. It forces teamwork and cooperation between the dorsal gunner and the pilot, and it also reduces the amount of angles of attack that your plane can be attacked from which adds a bit more challenge and dynamic to a dogfight. Also twin engine aircraft seem to not have the best flight characteristics, thus once the dogfights get to low altitude, the ground very much becomes a major factor in the equation.
Day 5 of asking for you to do a scenario where you try and figure out just what it would have taken for Wake Island to have held out long enough for the pacific fleet to get there, or if Wake Island was just a sacrificial pawn.
I know that the P-38 Lightning is in your computers to be used but I was wondering why they're not used?
The P-38 isn't available in DCS.
Pretty interesting, but I would of liked to see some one use the P-47D, if only for shits and giggles
Super tac flying like a Cessna with a body kit against that 109
I played Spit versus B17 last night, not as easy as you think.
agree
Why can’t I find these aircraft on DCS?
Cap:All you need to do to win is go British!
Cap I raise you the great British empire!…………..and the black out ground special
The Fw-190D and Me-109K have 13mm machine guns, not 30mm machine guns.
@Cap you have to let us know what broke and how to repair or replace.
Lateral tension spring snapped. New one ordered from China.
can a v22 osprey dog fight an interwar, ww1, or ww2 fighter plane?
With what weapons?
@@PerfectTangent google "V-22 Osprey 360 Degree GAU-17 M134 Minigun"
@@klafsen That's for ground attack.
@@PerfectTangent three us marines holding an ak47 shooting out from the cargo bay
Can you make a video on the viper variations mod
So
Is anyone passing the hat to get Cap's stick repaired?
Spare part already on order.
What about the difference in top speed of the warbirds versus the much slower COIN airplanes, won’t that be the deciding factor?
did no one take a P47?
You guys need to do a dam busters video wether it be with modern aircraft or with the Lancaster you need to do one due to the 80th anniversary that happened yesterday and Tuesday.
Request: Twin engine warbird battle, Mosquito Vs. P-38 Lightning
Do you use p-38 lightnings in your simulations, Cap?
No P-38 available in DCS
Pucara Bravos were armed with 30 mm autocanons. That ought to be mean.
Should have included the Zero. It would have stayed on the tail of anything. Also a Hellcat and Corsair.
No missiles? Poo! Next time double the WWII birds and give the COIN a/c missiles.
Excellent!
What's with all the GrowlingSidewinder comment spam? I haven't been around in a few weeks, what memeing did I miss?
Bizarre that nobody seems to notice or care. Also bizarre that 90% of the profiles with an actual photo are Indian.
I'd like to know what's going on as well.
I've never seen yous use corsairs.
Totally useless wish list: Ditch the Garrets on the Bronco, put 2 flat rated 1000hp PT6. Replace the 4x 7.62 MGs by 2x20mm cannons. That would be interesting.
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Challenging crazy idea: Slow Mover Interception;
in a total Dictators War the 23 countries composing Freedom Alliance decided it's time to rally a global war against once secret Dictators Union deploying all combat aircrafts and helicopters around the world, even trainers to support homeland defense and isolated area like Falkland, Diego Garcia, Pacific islands as American Samoa.
Aside less then 500 absolutely strange aircraft as the commuter with side looking radar to controll aerospace inside an aerial test range, what remain are little more of 500 flight capability screener and basic
maneuver trainers...
Mission:
onboard our SIAI Marchetti SF-260 armed with small pods for 7,62 mm machine gun weiting about 250 lbs each we must prevent a big drone to delivery few ounces of a bacteria in a potable water basin 🤮
We will be able to stop the disaster?
Thank you hoping I was able to sell you the idea
I LURRRVE the BRONCO! Yeee HAAA!
cheers to my BRAZIL 🇧🇷💙💚cheers to our🛩🛩 super toucan A-29 the best light ground attack aircraft 🛫🛩in the world 🤭😘🤗
Schönes Video!😊..Bevor ich euch mit schlechten Englisch nerve,schreib ich lieber auf Deutsch.Könntet ihr mal was über die Panavia Tornado machen ???
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