WATCH THIS! Before buying a Ryobi Biscuit Joiner- Complete Review & Unboxing
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- This is my review of the Ryobi Biscuit Joiner. I just bought this and have been trying it out on a project or two. If you're in the market for a biscuit joiner, you're going to want to watch this to see what happens when I have some issues with my joiner. This was not sponsored and is my honest opinion of the Ryobi Biscuit Joiner.
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How you store your biscuits can account for some tightness when you go to insert. The average biscuit is made of beech and has a high ratio of exposed surface area so if you don't store them properly they can swell. 1. Make sure to store them in a container or bag that seals airtight and 2. Add a desiccant (absorbs moisture). Just a random tip that people often arent aware of...
That's a good reminder. I don't leave mine open longer than 10 min but I may try adding a desiccant to the container.
I have one of the early 1990's model Ryobi biscuit joiners, from when they were using the blue housings instead of the neon green they use now. It's much harder to adjust the fence on it (no rack and pinion gear). It uses a rubber pad around the saw slot instead of the black sandpaper-like material on the newer ones. Like your experience, even now, 3 years after your review, people still complain that they buy the joiner and the slots cut are not parallel to the top of the work piece. It is hit or miss, apparently. Biscuit joiners are really angle grinders with an apparatus stuck on there to expose the blade as needed to cut the slots.
I have never seen any of your videos before. But I do like the review you did. There are so many videos out there that claim to be "reviews" when in fact they are just "unboxing" videos. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with taking products out of the packaging. I want to see how the product works. Thanks again.
Glad you liked it! Yeah I feel like you gotta know how it works!
Thank you. This not only helps me make a decision to purchase the Ryobi but now I know what to check right off.
Great! Yeah make sure to verify it cuts good slots before keeping it.
As a pro I’ve never bought a Ryobi tool. In the 80’s when they first hit the market they were good. Now you’ll get what you pay for or less. Tempting though,the assortment of tools on one format is great. Cheers.
I was thinking about buying a Roybi biscuit cutter, when I ran across your review. I’m sure glad I did. It is very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the review and thanks for going back and getting another to give a more complete review vs just saying "it's junk" =)
No problem! I just wanted to be sure before paying twice the price for a different brand.
I agree on this. Canadian youtuber AvE would have taken that apart and then failed to put it back together and just said "garbage!"
I have the old blue ryobi biscuit joiner. Looks just like yours besides the color. Mine has worked perfectly for 10+ years. Good tool
That's good to know! Yeah I think they basically rebranded it with the new colors when they went to the green and black color scheme
Thanks for the review. I just bought my first bisquit cutter, a Ryobi. After unboxing, on my first cut, I experience a huge amount of smoke from the tool. Thanks for the heads up on what to look for in a good cut. My tool was without a doubt, a returned tool whose blade was swapped, and the black plate removed for parts.
That musical return walk into the store was fantastic. Also, thanks for the thorough evaluation by giving the tool a second chance.
Ha! I'm glad you liked that... I had to beg my wife to stand outside the store with the camera!
Adjust the fence. The plate that sits on the wood. Controls where on the wood the cut starts.
Yep I did that. The problem was that the fence was not parallel to the cutter no matter what I adjusted.
Thanks for the trial, Ryobi seem to be making some very good priced tools now, after buying a new Plunge Router and a Belt Sander I was already leaning towards Ryobi again for a Biscuit Jointer. After seeing your video I will be more careful than usual unboxing, just in case 😉
Glad it helped!
I don't use biscuit joiner on my woodworks, neither dowels for joining woods, or frames. I either use 16 gauge or 15 gauge finish nailer, wood glue and pocket screws for joinery. Fin/Trim Head screws for fine works and fine details, and deck screws or common nails for a larger works. For a much larger wood works like picnic tables and large garden bench I use deck screws, or lag screws or carriage bolts. 23 gauge nailer and wood glue for a much Finer wood works like picture frames, small shelving details etc etc. When I'm building kitchen cabinets I use 16 gauge finish nails and wood glue, sometimes pocket screws, and cabinet screws. Wood plugs and pocket hole plugs to cover the hole and a nice patch of wood filler. I don't use a wood just to connect a wood to a another wood because that's what a biscuit joinery and dowels are doing. For materials I don't use MDF's or any sort of particle board, because at the end they're nothing but just a compressed paper that became a plywood and they eventually gonna break and will not last long.
@@taolang1089 sounds like you do lots of joining stuff - you should do a video on it....
Subscribing; appreciate this. I always check every Ryobi internal/machine or tool-borne measurement with an exterior tool, like a combo square or even a tape. For whatever reason, that application consistency seems to vary somewhat, even within one use like your first cut. The angled blade on a table saw walks; the router depth compresses, etc. It's slowed me down a lot over the last two years in projects, but I've found that between that and obsessively using clamps, Ryobi is plenty good enough for me for now.
Thanks again! Great review.
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. Yep always gotta keep your tools tuned up with a separate tool. I never trust a 90 deg on a tool until I verify it!
I watched this because I have a Ryobi JM-100 that is still going strong after 20 plus years of occasional use. The JM-100 is the common type based on an angle grinder which drives through noisy bevel gears; I assume the review machine is direct drive.
You highlight two very important points to look out for. If you are referencing off the fence then clearly it needs to be parallel to the work. I prefer to work off the base when possible but, of course, this also has to be truly parallel to the plane of the blade.
Positive dust extraction is advisable.
Exactly! Ideally I'd like the cutter, fence, and base to all be parallel so I can use it however I want!
Just this morning, today, not more than an hour ago, I spoke to a friend of mine about joining some pine to make a picture frame for a mirror. Pieces are already cut, but not assembled yet due to me not knowing the best way. My friend recommended a couple different ways, including getting a biscuit joiner. Having never used one before, the research began. Bear in mind, this will not be a tool I use often. First stop, and within a couple of minutes, I found this Ryobi, Grizzly and Harbour Freight product prices. I don’t know Grizzly Products and I don’t have anything from HF. I do own a Ryobi bench top band saw & drill press, and although both are new (within a month of each other), I’ve used each one lightly and both have been successful. So for $99, and for something I won’t use often, I find this to be a win-win scenario. Next stop, right here, to view reviews of the product. This was my first video and although I’ll watch a couple more, I don’t need to. This was perfect. So I thank you. And like another commenter said, I thank you again for getting the 2nd one to try before calling it junk. This is how everyone should do it, before saying something is a piece of crap. This should be a lesson to everyone who hears someone say something is junk...ask them to what extent they took the product to...to come to that thought.
Kudos to you and this video. I greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your comments! I'm glad it helped. I was really hoping it would work because the price was so good! Worth a bit of extra effort to make sure
Yeah...no problem. Making an effort is absolutely essential, not to mention respected, when it comes to working. Whether professionally or recreationally, it’s definitely welcomed. If effort isn’t given, nothing, or the bare minimum, is achieved. Or in your case, it could’ve meant the difference between your opinion of the tool to others!
Great video. I have one of these Ryobi biscuit joiners. Originally I wanted a more expensive one but this is the only one they had at the hardware store. I am very impressed. Like you said, the dust collection is excellent. The bag captures 99% of dust but it fills up pretty quickly. I wish it was a little bigger.
Agreed... I found out firsthand that it surprisingly doesn't work when it's full!
I sincerely salute you for going back for a second one to rule out a lemon. Thats above and beyond.
Thanks! It seemed worth a second shot!
if the blade angle needs adjusting, there is an easy fix. First take off the base plate, then loosen the two screws holding the two halves of the base casting together.
one of the halves has a locating pin so is fixed in one position. The other side has no pin so can be adjusted by turning the screw.
So one of the sides acts as a pivot.
As you retighten the screw on the other side you will notice that the position of the two halves relative to the other changes.
When the halves are aligned, The Biscuit cutter is parallel to the base so will cut a straight slot, parallel to the edge of the board.
The trick is to tighten the screw on the moving side as much as possible whilst the alignment is right. You don't want to cinch it down when its in the wrong position. I used thread locker to help because my screw had to be in the loose position. Also, when you attach the base plate it will hold the adjustment you have made.
I didn't try that but I figured I shouldn't have to adjust that right out of the box. Good to know for future adjustments though
Thankyou for that review. I need to update my biscuit joiner; Ryobi had a simpler older model years ago which I omitted to buy. This looks like a better beast.
Yeah this one is definitely improved!
Thanks for the heads up regarding the inaccurate cutting. Even a couple of years later, I checked a display item before I bought one in Australia. Yep, the base plate for height adjustment is not square with the Cutting blade. So I ended up buying a different brand.
Outstanding review of this tool and giving it a more than fair evaluation. The first one must have been made on a Monday.
Haha yeah that sounds about right!
Always remember "you get what you pay for" and " sometimes the cheapest is the dearest in the long run"
Yep... both are true
At the same time this seems to be a pretty simple tool and it makes sense that it would be inexpensive
Love this, went out and got it after watching this. I was on the fence, thank you for helping me decide.
Glad it helped! Have fun with it!
"You want a nice tight slot for your biscuit". I shouldn't have chucked when I heard that.
Did I say that? Dang I should really plan out my wording more.
too tight and you won't get glue in the slot
Thanks! This is a really informative video. I'm on way out to get a Ryobi and appreciate the heads-up to test for accuracy and good to know that the errors are only one-offs. Great explanation on how to test.
Thanks! It saved me from having to spend twice that on a different brand
Great take on checking out everything before making a decision on whether to keep it or make an opinion on it. Thx I went and bought one.
Nice! I hope it works well for you
Incredibly helpful for a first time buyer. Thank you!
Thanks for the review. I need a biscuit joiner for occasional work. I appreciate the positive review after a negative result. I will take the chance and purchase one of these as I don't want to spend a few hundred for the Makita or DeWalt unit.
Thanks! Glad it helped
Bought one of those when they first came out. Still using it. like the way it allows you to put pressure down and into the joint target with one hand. added some 400 grit psa sand paper to the front to make sure it does not slip.
Yeah the angle of the handle definitely helps you apply the right pressure.
Excellent honest review. Seems good value and fine for general work. Thanks for posting.
I bought one of these and the biscuits were really loose. They were square and aligned but way too much slop. Traded it for a DeWalt and all was good. Shame though.... everything about the Ryobi seemed amazing and it even was a pleasure to use. I liked the pistol grip and the large handle on the fence and the fact it does 135 degrees angles.
I think you can buy just the blade and install that on this one if you want.
The other important thing to note is that this Ryobi is one of the only biscuit joiners that put the slot no less than 9/16 from the bottom face when registering off the bottom face as oppose to 3/8”. This is a problem if you work with mainly 3/4” wood, in which case you would have to use the fence to register and will not be able to use the bottom face.
I have the same problem. I'm doing a workaround by building up one side of the plate with layers of tape.
Nice! That can work too
Thanks, picking one of these up soon, now I’ll know what to look for!
No problem! Hope it helps
This is the best looking cut I have seen. I tried a DeWalt and a Lamello and returned both as they could not align the cutter repeatedly. I have an old blue Ryobi though not much better can be used by sliding the basic machine on a wooden surface and get consistent results. Reminds of trying to use a Wolfcraft dowel jig that had mm size guides and imperial size drills. Utterly insanity and useless.
Yeah this one does surprisingly well considering the price point
Thank You, very helpful as I just purchased this tool and really had no experience . Your review and hints helped a great deal.
Glad I could help!
I wonder if the parallel issue was a problem with the fence, rather than the spinning blade. If you couldn't return it, I bet some fiddling with the fence (even putting a little shim on one side) would make the biscuit cut square.
If I couldn't return it, I would've jimmy-rigged something!
I have the same problem with my DeWalt biscuit joiner. Kinda stinks there doesn’t seem to be a way to fix it. I really wish the manufacturers would provide some adjustability for the blade angle so it could be fine tuned.
If you're outside the return window you could try shimming up one side of the fence just slightly so it changes the blade angle.
I got a whole box full of free tools, they all had non standard plugs on the leads, the problem was that they didn't have the plastic around the pins and rather than have new plugs fitted they just replaced the whole tools, I scored a 2 biscuit joiners, a TEK screw gun, a makita saw and router and a 20 metre extension lead.
Good work!
The fence, not the blade
Great video and if they don't sponsor you - they should. When you adjusted for the 0 size biscuit, did that adjustment effect the fitment of the other size biscuits...? Will you have to adjust it every time you switch biscuit sizes...? Thanks & great channel. Also, since I'm writing. In another video you mentioned bringing wood from other countries... you should do a video on that...
Nope they don't sponsor me... there are depth stop settings so you can quickly adjust the depth without affecting the alignment. Glad you like the channel. Good idea for a video!
Could it be a problem with the fence
I measured the fence in relation to the tool base and it was staying pretty parallel. Just the blade was off.
Many thanks. Very informative and incredibly helpful.
Very detailed information
Thank you, now I know what look for
Good, well presented review. Great tips for 'Out of the box' checks to carry out on any Biscuit Joiner
Thanks!
Thank you for the great video.....what model was this one ??? people were complaining about the things you mentioned and supposedly have been fixed.......I believe the model 382 was the faulty one and 383 is the fixed one.
Yes this one is the JM 83. It's good to see when a company improves their product!
Yess,they better if they want us to buy from them . lol Thank you for your prompt reply.
I appreciate people who review these and this person did a great job in exposing a problem that would plague a novice for probably the life of the tool. However, in the original review, I seriously do not trust that piece of dark walnut scrap he was using for his test. It was obviously split and potentially warped. These style bisquit jointers rely on a flat and level surface to guide the cut. I would have trusted this review more if the OP had tried this same test on a different board before returning to the store. WIth that being said, I have had more than my fair share of ryobi brand tools with problems 'out-of-the-box'. I would recommend anyone buying this tool to perform the same test 'out-of-the-box' and if it fails, try a different board before making the decision to return it.
The board only had the split on one side. This had already been run through a planer so it was pretty flat. I did try it on another board though off camera with the same result.
Great tips for things to check when getting started with a biscuit jointer... 👍
Thanks! Glad it helped
Thank you for the review I am in the market for the a biscuit plate joiner.
Glad it helped!
Cheers for that, exactly what I needed to see
Great! Glad to help
I purchased a Ryobi biscuit Joiner about 8 years ago. After borrowing a dewalt joiner from someone else. I found the pistol grip very comfortable to use and the price could not be be. However if the using a pocket hole joiner I have had little use for it. But I seem to remember having the identical problem with mine. And never thought to return it. I imagine there's a way to adjust it? Think I had tried. Don't remember the result.
I took it apart as much as I could and I couldn't figure out any way to adjust it.
I’m just getting into woodworking and was given a Ryobi Biscuit Joiner as a gift. Do you have any suggestions on what to make first and if so anything easy?
A good first project is a cutting board but that doesn't necessarily need biscuits, just glue and clamps. You could try a picture frame or even an end table. Welcome to woodworking!
Did you only try one single biscuit and assume it was jacked up instead of maybe checking to make sure it wasn’t user error? Seems a little nuts to me to assume you did it perfect the very first time, and that your wood was perfectly flat...
Don't worry I tried multiple biscuits and multiple boards... also it wasn't my first time using a biscuit joiner.
You went hunting for the alignment problem with the first unit in the wrong spot. You were looking at the motor itself... which has nothing to do with the angle of the cut you were getting. You should have been looking at the guide mechanism you set onto the top of the wood which has adjustment and what looks like a rack-and-pinion to synchronize the left and right sides to move them parallel.
Thanks for the video and the testing tip. If the tool is slightly crooked, it would make a huge difference in the outcome, one I wouldn't think of in troubleshooting the misalignment. I would think it's caused by wood warping, but in this case, the tool is the culprit. Good thinking!
Do you find using it on smaller stock makes it tough to use on smaller stop referencing off the bottom? Seems like a thicker plate than others?
I have it is why I ask.
I've only used it on wider, 3/4" thick material, but you should be able to add thin spacers under either the plate joiner or the wood you're working with. Just make sure use the same spacers for each piece.
thanks buddy
@@EveningWoodworker
This is why I'm here. Ugh. Just bought it and mine is crooked.
Take it back!
Setting up a camera for the store visit...hahaha! Thanks for the review.
Yeah that was fun! I had my wife stand there so no one would touch the camera
Just got one of these. I'm using #20 biscuits (Ryobi brand also) and they're loose. Nowhere near as tight as yours. Not unusable, but they just fall out if my work piece is turned over. Is that typical?
It's not terrible if they're loose. They expand a fair amount with the glue... some slop is okay, too much slop and it doesn't really help you with alignment at all!
Probably the milling of the wood
Good catch, and great review.
Thanks! I figured I couldn't give up that easily!
The Evening Woodworker, that really helped me out. I’ll probably pick one up very soon to do my table top.
This machine still performing well after a few years?
Yep it's going strong... I don't use it on every project, but it still works well!
Thanks having issues with my Ryobi. The biscuit is not tight in the slot. Should I return?
The HD return policy is pretty generous so you could return it and see if there's a difference. A lot depends on the biscuits too. Some are thicker than others.
Thanks for the review.
You have a Ryobi.....Me....I have a Chicago brand, from Harbor Freight, & haven't used it yet..... I think we will have an issue too
Make sure to check it out on scrap first to see what you need to adjust
How often would you say you use your plate jointer for panel glue ups?
Anytime I'm doing big glue ups especially ones that are long, I use it. It helps reduce the sanding needed later to make it all flat.
These tools are known as loose tenon tools. The biscuits swell when glue is added in the slot. If the biscuit is too tight to start, you will not get glue in the slot. Sloppy is not good but neither is "nice and tight"
That's true, there's a fine line on these between tight and loose.
I like your style of speaking and presentation. Subscribed
Thank you sir!
Great info thanks
I don’t like mine. I can’t seem to get the cut in the center. Mine is always too high or too low. When I lock it down it will change as I tighten the locks.
Thanks; good review!
how do i adjust height of the cut? mine cuts way high!
I set it using the fence on the top. That way you can adjust it up or down, and get to the height you want.
Thank you!
Thank you ,great video,
Thanks!
What is the minimum thickness this thing works for?
The cutter is 1/2" up from the bottom and the fence will go all the way down to the blade. I wouldn't recommend doing a biscuit though on anything thinner than 1/2" thick
@@EveningWoodworker how thick is the cutting blade?
It cuts a slot at 4mm or just under 5/32"
Thank you
Something about the wood? You used hard walnut first. It looked rough. The wood caused an uneven cut. Then you used planed wood the second try. Stop using the fence too. I love mine and never ever had a problem.
The walnut was from the same board, both planed. I guess some work and some don't. My second one worked fine and I still use it today.
Also another point, Many of the domino joiners have a plate on the bottom. Seneca woodworking sells a 1/2 and 3/4 plate that you can purchase to aid instability. I’m not sure if there’s one for biscuit but I add an extra piece of wood. Basically, you’re working with the tool upside down. So get rid of the fence.
Sometimes woodworking could be so complicated. Details. Aargh
I like your video.That's great
Correction...its the jm 83 thats better.
Good video! Thanks for helping me make a selection for one of these. #SubscribedNow
So you just got an unfortunate dud? Seems to work fine otherwise when you replaced it...
Yep the second one worked great
I really appreciate this video. I bought one of these used though offerup and I wanted to check that I have all the components which your unboxing helped with. Secondly you give me some good tests which is great.
I watched another video about the DeWalt biscuit joiner and I think that it might be possible to fix the parallel issue. It definitely was possible on the Dewalt but it might also be possible on the Ryobi.
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Thanks! I will check it out
It's your bloody timber get spectacles
I tried it on a couple different boards. Same result... I only filmed one of them
gracias amigo
De nada! Ojala que esto le haya ayudado
@@EveningWoodworker crees que me sirva para hacer ensambles a 45 grados, en madera de 15 mm.
Muchas gracias, voy a seguir viendo todos tus vídeos.
@@jhoniermendez4614 Muchas Gracias!
No lo he hecho pero he visto ensambles a 45 grados pero nunca menos que 3/4" (19mm).
If you would've taken 30 Secs flipping through the manual you'd see all the adjustments...
Yep... did that. Nothing there about adjusting the blade angle.
Ryobi is shit, at least the last 15 years. I bought a ryobi joiner about 30 years ago, and it's sturdy machine. Amazingly, I've hardly used it, and recently got it back out of storage, which is why I'm looking up videos. Mine cost about$240.
It's definitely the lower end of the tool market but I figured for the price, this one was at least worth trying out.
Thanks, the instructions were terrible if you have never used one
Yeah they could've been better
Who is useful to review a Ryobi versus other
The fist error was operator error. You should have done a couple of cuts.
Did a few, same result. But the second one was great!
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Hey - I'm a subscriber and a long-time woodworker. Great video but I have to ask - What's up with your generation and its infatuation with unboxing?
Haha I think we're obsessed with knowing every detail of a product before we buy it. The internet makes it easy to over-research so the next logical step is to watch someone else open the box of what you want to buy! But it is definitely a recent trend.
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Another piece of crap from the quality folks at Ryobi
Some are crap... some are not. But it can be hard to tell until you use it
@@EveningWoodworker I'm talking about the Ryobi brand as a whole being crap.