I've watched every one of your videos since well before the 1000+ likes counter. Your contribution to the small yet dedicated community can't be overstated. Thanks, Winter! You always make my days better.
Haven't played the game in years. But I started playing SC on the day of its release and have always loved it dearly. Found this channel and since then, this is what I watch when I chill for an hour after work or when I need a little time out. Thanks for your great work! And send Jimmy back to the basement. He's got work to do! 😂
Winter, listening to you is like having a whole panel of broadcasters, like the whos who of starcraft mental illnesses, amazing job dude! love watching your stuff
That third game was something only a player who has been in the game since the FruitDealer days. Crazy insight that he had to grab the SCVs and go right then or never.
GuMiho finally figured out what to build to counter a ground only force. Showtime just seems so resistant to build the golden armada, and he lost the series because of it. He would have won that 4th game if he had any sort of air units whatsoever.
Im upset by how strong marauders are the only option toss has against them is disruptors or tempests... stalkers just melt in a 1v1 with stim and blink :(
It's like how Byun sometimes just wakes up and decides he's not going to build a ghost today no matter how many games it costs him. These players are way better than I'll ever be. But it's sometimes frustrating to watch them so stubbornly refuse to make the clear tech to win the game. Against a lategame bio-Terran that's gotten to double digit liberator count you must directly answer the liberators directly or your ground army won't be able to fight. The best answer is the tempests. Showtime knows more about Protoss than I ever will, but sometimes he just doesn't build the units that are obviously right.
@@hamsterfromabove8905 I mean with the zealot surge in the main game 7 you could see his plan - trash gumiho's back with mass zealots, keep whittling away at the army with disruptors, avoid investing the time & money in a tempest fleet... it was possible with a bit more micro or a bit more money Yeah I love Byun he has the best ghost micro of any player but he clearly doesn't enjoy using them and will avoid it at any costs hahahaha
this was by far one of the most brutal series i have seen yet. just back to back games where everything was thrown at a wall and nothing stuck for either player.
I swear Gumiho's a robot. Whether he's winning or losing, I just never see any panic in his movements. "Oh 20 charge-lots just warped into my main? Guess I'll try this now."
This is definitely one of the most consistently good series on this channel. Some Dark & Zest series have had higher highs & lower lows but GuMiho & Showtime both on point macroing it out 7 games in a row~
They might not have the top APMs, but they leave me in the dust. If I manage past 100, it's a good day. "I was whelmed." - Ten Things I Hate About You.
13:31 "The disruptor hits zealots and siege tanks alike but good enough" A few moments later "The disruptor shot curves around taking out a few loyal zealots who have a tough working relationship with the disruptors" 😂😂😂😂😂
Game5 is so painful to watch if you're rooting for ShowTime. Possibly the biggest throw I've seen in a final in years. Game5: if he built a void ray at 1:09:40 when liberators started to siege his expansions, would have had 10 more minutes of 2 base full saturation, but instead when he finally plans on it, he spends the money on 3 zealots (1:14:33). A void ray and a shield battery is enough to shoo away all those liberators. 10 seconds of 2 base mining is enough to buy 3 zealots.
I love watching Gumiho and TY, believers of Tankstyles against Protoss on ladder tankstyle just makes you want to build liberators instead even with the nerf :(
Love your casts!! Does anyone know if youtube android can zoom to fill with out being centered? I like zoom to fill, but so much important info at the bottom of the screen.
Showtime after his main dies on the 7th game "Maybe if I play long enough, he'll get tired of killing my structures and just forfeit the game out of boredom."
Im a English novice, and im not big fan of Gumiho. But After game6 your commentary seems really impressive and hit my mind on something. Thx for making best of 7 and i really appreciate your sincere game casting. Always love to enjoy it.
ShowTime is indeed "The Wall" but apparently, at least at times, he's also stubborn as a brick. When he built 26 gates i was like: Nah, there's no chance in hell he's gonna switch to air now. Because otherwise he would have to justify to himself, why he just spent 10+ carriers worth of minerals on warpgates, that will not be used efficiently... 🙃
To be a strong protoss it's simple early game aggression. Make them turtle then get four base as fast as you can then max out and just keep throwing your units into battle till the enemy brakes. Keep four bases full of probes at all time and make it to where they can't mineral harassment you. Keep them in a fight lowering there unit numbers while keeping your as high as possible. Or you will be the one getting overwhelmed all the time. Don't do skytoss that's loss toss. And void rays are good for hit squads.
And then the terran flies in a double drop and clears one mineral line or a mine drop and clears a mineral line and after doing that twice you're now on the backfoot with T having ghosts and libs and you lose the game. The void rays sound like plat advice as well.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu thats funny my man but I don't play I just watch hours of people playing every day and see what works and does not work. You think I could be that high in the rankings thank you. 32 by the way I took old to play but old enough to still see weakness and strengths.
@@remeokits Where exactly do you see void ray hit squads in pro games? What protoss just masses units and throws them against terran defenses zerg-style except for rare games that has played e.g.? Anyone can reach plat, also at 32, no problems my dude. You just need to play.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu uthermal did a special build and was losing using mostly void rays then changed up his play but the remaining rays was used to snipe building. It was beautiful and actually was the reason he won. So in five group they can snipe building quick while you fight with your main army. They die quick but that's why it's high risk high reward. He was in the grand masters.
@@remeokits Yeah, uthermal constantly plays much weaker players than him so that his funky strats work. None of that would consistently work on pro level, not even close. So just because uthermal beats a few grandmasters that are much worse than him with raven mine does not mean it's a viable strategy, just that SC 2 is a game in which you can make almost everything work with superior micro and macro. Harstem did this "beating GMs with stupid stuff" long before thermy and that also doesn't mean anything for the builds themselves.
Feels like ranged libs are way too oppressive against toss, there's really nothing good the toss can do vs. them. If they build tempests, those need constant babysitting because otherwise a swarm of vikings will easily take them out with EMP on top. They also need oracle revelation to properly shoot libs. I mean, it is the same vs. lategame zerg armies, but in a straight up fight, the zerg just loses and thus the protoss has much more room to maneuvre. Vs. Terran in a straight up fight, it is not remotely close, the T rolls over toss, so protecting your tempests with your ground army actually becomes a liability.
Theoretically it is base destruction aka if a player loses if they have no buildings left. However in practice players surrender before that because they know when the game is over
He's got the blazer on, I better cancel my afternoon for this.
that's a good point to keep in mind, thanks.
I love the blazer!
I've watched every one of your videos since well before the 1000+ likes counter. Your contribution to the small yet dedicated community can't be overstated. Thanks, Winter! You always make my days better.
1:22:48 "that post-disruptor shot clarity hits hard" LMAO
lmao
That was an outstanding series. Showtime clearly forgot that other units exist. Those mass libs were just brutal.
Haven't played the game in years. But I started playing SC on the day of its release and have always loved it dearly. Found this channel and since then, this is what I watch when I chill for an hour after work or when I need a little time out. Thanks for your great work! And send Jimmy back to the basement. He's got work to do! 😂
This commentator look very nerd :/
😂
Brenda strongly disagrees
If by nerd you mean polished and gorgeous, then yes. Back to the basement, Jimmy. Who let you comment.
Hmm yes much brains.
Thank you you are awesome ❤
get off my creep !! 🤭
Winter, listening to you is like having a whole panel of broadcasters, like the whos who of starcraft mental illnesses, amazing job dude! love watching your stuff
That third game was something only a player who has been in the game since the FruitDealer days. Crazy insight that he had to grab the SCVs and go right then or never.
23:55 brenda having an out of body experience
underrated comment
omg over 190 army supply... I gotta say GuMiho is so fun to watch
A 2 hour finale???? God dam this is gonna be good!
It wasn't 😢
What an amazing series, I was at HSCXXV and the crowd was so hyped, happy to get the winter perspective now
GuMiho finally figured out what to build to counter a ground only force. Showtime just seems so resistant to build the golden armada, and he lost the series because of it. He would have won that 4th game if he had any sort of air units whatsoever.
Im upset by how strong marauders are the only option toss has against them is disruptors or tempests... stalkers just melt in a 1v1 with stim and blink :(
i dont get why this moron keeps building disruptors instead of templars. and he has nothing to say about dealing with liberation zones. its rather sad
It's like how Byun sometimes just wakes up and decides he's not going to build a ghost today no matter how many games it costs him. These players are way better than I'll ever be. But it's sometimes frustrating to watch them so stubbornly refuse to make the clear tech to win the game.
Against a lategame bio-Terran that's gotten to double digit liberator count you must directly answer the liberators directly or your ground army won't be able to fight. The best answer is the tempests. Showtime knows more about Protoss than I ever will, but sometimes he just doesn't build the units that are obviously right.
@@hamsterfromabove8905 I mean with the zealot surge in the main game 7 you could see his plan - trash gumiho's back with mass zealots, keep whittling away at the army with disruptors, avoid investing the time & money in a tempest fleet... it was possible with a bit more micro or a bit more money
Yeah I love Byun he has the best ghost micro of any player but he clearly doesn't enjoy using them and will avoid it at any costs hahahaha
@@mattoverton9087 Immortals?
I was rooting for Showtime but, man, those last few games were much more smacking the wall than being the wall. Great series!
this was by far one of the most brutal series i have seen yet. just back to back games where everything was thrown at a wall and nothing stuck for either player.
incredible play, thanks for the commentary, sending good vibes from South Africa 🇿🇦
I love your recent gumiho spree! He was easily my favorite Terran player during the brood war. Never a boring game!
You're very good at announcing these starcraft matches. It keeps it interesting
58:43
"I'm gonna keep doin' it. I lied."
That caught me out and made me actually lol
I swear Gumiho's a robot. Whether he's winning or losing, I just never see any panic in his movements. "Oh 20 charge-lots just warped into my main? Guess I'll try this now."
This is definitely one of the most consistently good series on this channel. Some Dark & Zest series have had higher highs & lower lows but GuMiho & Showtime both on point macroing it out 7 games in a row~
5:40 "Man with gun very strong"
Round 5 definitely one of the best SC2 matches, insane 👌
I literally found myself holding my breath at times!
🎉🎉🎉🎉Let's Effin Go!!! Winter Casting SC2, Jimmy, there is nothing better than this!
JIMMY!
That has gotta be the best series ive ever seen.
So it would seem.
Did you watch oliviera vs serral from esl masters?
Thank you WinterStarcraft, for showing us this amazing series!
welp there goes my evening. thanks for the quality content, as always winter! Hopefully gumibro doesn't let me down!
That bunker push to match point by Gumiho was gold.
"and he gumidoes" what a commentary one liner lol
37:55 “The prism who lived” oh my gosh 🤣
If there's toss, I root for toss. If there's Gumiho....sometimes I root for Gumiho.
#cantdoomtheGoom
Who would you root for in a match between Gumiho and SOS?
@@ZC.Andrew In that scenario I would root for MaxPax :p
@@ManDuderGuy Haha! Fair enough
They might not have the top APMs, but they leave me in the dust. If I manage past 100, it's a good day.
"I was whelmed." - Ten Things I Hate About You.
13:31
"The disruptor hits zealots and siege tanks alike but good enough"
A few moments later
"The disruptor shot curves around taking out a few loyal zealots who have a tough working relationship with the disruptors"
😂😂😂😂😂
I am glad winter was "whelmed" by the first game
Terran Comander leads protoss army of zealots ---- "by the numbers boys"
Game5 is so painful to watch if you're rooting for ShowTime. Possibly the biggest throw I've seen in a final in years.
Game5: if he built a void ray at 1:09:40 when liberators started to siege his expansions, would have had 10 more minutes of 2 base full saturation, but instead when he finally plans on it, he spends the money on 3 zealots (1:14:33). A void ray and a shield battery is enough to shoo away all those liberators. 10 seconds of 2 base mining is enough to buy 3 zealots.
What a throw by Showtime. He's so inflexible, stubbornly insisting on playing protoss like it's the zerg.
9:55 "He knows the map is dark and full of terrans" LOL
Post disrupter shot clarity is real.
Petition to get a group of 10 zealots or more as a "cinematic of chargelots"
I dont even bother playing starcraft 2 anymore, i just watch winters break downs. Im behind on years of tv shows and movies, and yet i watch.
"Thats too much Liberty" 😅
This guy brings light to my world. Just seems cool 😊
When will people learn not to base trade vs Terran? Game came out since 07.
Showtime needs to learn about the rest of the Protoss units my god
The map with the hardwood floor texture reminds me of the Micro Machines game on NES
I get mentally tired just by watching these matches. Both of these guys are amazing.
I was hoping that my day would get a little bit better, and it did!
Still waiting on that serral vs maru finals
I was literally thinking watching yesterdays cast. I havent seen a showtime game in a while. You were reading my mind i guess
Unexpected what a rollercoaster matches! Love it
The perfect background noise for a day of work!
I love watching Gumiho and TY, believers of Tankstyles against Protoss
on ladder tankstyle just makes you want to build liberators instead even with the nerf :(
Feels like I was watching an NBA finals game.
1:22:53 "May feel good, but eh, that post-disruptor shot clarity."
Awkward laugh. No idea what he's talking about.
Die Mauer listening to 'The Trooper" the whole match
Love your casts!!
Does anyone know if youtube android can zoom to fill with out being centered? I like zoom to fill, but so much important info at the bottom of the screen.
1:04:19 "Too much liberty" jajaja
What’s the epic music for the FUSION CORE?
got a bowl of beans. just woke up. ready to watch about 15 minutes until my beans are gone.
Showtime after his main dies on the 7th game "Maybe if I play long enough, he'll get tired of killing my structures and just forfeit the game out of boredom."
Watching this video and I just happened to notice i'm wearing the exact same Bob Ross t-shirt as you are.
For some reason it's never engraved in my brain to like the video until you tell me to Jimmy so plz don't stop
STONKS. hahahahah last place I would have expected to hear that reference
You're a legend Winter, love your videos
14:51 Infrastructure and production you have my attention. have you seen my spreadsheets...
That rocked! Last game was great as well!
Im a English novice, and im not big fan of Gumiho. But After game6 your commentary seems really impressive and hit my mind on something. Thx for making best of 7 and i really appreciate your sincere game casting. Always love to enjoy it.
Winter , U r my Shakespeare of Sc2!
showtime blunt refusal to build air units ...
Protoss air sucks
@@PraiseYeezus a few tempest and few carriers would do wonders against theese libs
I agree however viking is too hard countering everything toss air
except for game 6 😅
27:45 😂😂😂 so. many. gates.
GumiGOD
ShowTime is indeed "The Wall" but apparently, at least at times, he's also stubborn as a brick.
When he built 26 gates i was like: Nah, there's no chance in hell he's gonna switch to air now. Because otherwise he would have to justify to himself, why he just spent 10+ carriers worth of minerals on warpgates, that will not be used efficiently... 🙃
To be a strong protoss it's simple early game aggression. Make them turtle then get four base as fast as you can then max out and just keep throwing your units into battle till the enemy brakes. Keep four bases full of probes at all time and make it to where they can't mineral harassment you. Keep them in a fight lowering there unit numbers while keeping your as high as possible. Or you will be the one getting overwhelmed all the time. Don't do skytoss that's loss toss. And void rays are good for hit squads.
And then the terran flies in a double drop and clears one mineral line or a mine drop and clears a mineral line and after doing that twice you're now on the backfoot with T having ghosts and libs and you lose the game.
The void rays sound like plat advice as well.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu thats funny my man but I don't play I just watch hours of people playing every day and see what works and does not work. You think I could be that high in the rankings thank you. 32 by the way I took old to play but old enough to still see weakness and strengths.
@@remeokits Where exactly do you see void ray hit squads in pro games? What protoss just masses units and throws them against terran defenses zerg-style except for rare games that has played e.g.?
Anyone can reach plat, also at 32, no problems my dude. You just need to play.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu uthermal did a special build and was losing using mostly void rays then changed up his play but the remaining rays was used to snipe building. It was beautiful and actually was the reason he won. So in five group they can snipe building quick while you fight with your main army. They die quick but that's why it's high risk high reward. He was in the grand masters.
@@remeokits Yeah, uthermal constantly plays much weaker players than him so that his funky strats work. None of that would consistently work on pro level, not even close. So just because uthermal beats a few grandmasters that are much worse than him with raven mine does not mean it's a viable strategy, just that SC 2 is a game in which you can make almost everything work with superior micro and macro. Harstem did this "beating GMs with stupid stuff" long before thermy and that also doesn't mean anything for the builds themselves.
Best game ive seen in a while wow
"I don't see a reality here"
Me either Winter... me either
Blasphemy. The most entertaining Terran is either Lord Micro Jackson Byun or his apprentice successor Clem💪🏼💯
What a series!
Sick play Gumi. Respect
post disruptor shot clarity. hmmmmmmmm. thats nuts
From now on I will always refer to a group of zealots as a Cinematic. Thanks!
I don't understand why, Gumiho doesn't make more barracks knowing Showtime has so much Gateway and the has a lot of minerals in bank (game 2 e.g.)
5th game "Showtime investing into nfts" (Not Friggin Tempests)
What do the numbers on the player cards mean?
GUMIHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gumiho builds the cool units. 🙌🙌🙌
Marines, medivacs, tanks, vikings and libs? The same as any other terran? xD
please don't stop making videos
Can someone explain the hearthstone cards? Do they really give the bonuses? Or are they just for fun?
They are just for fun. Just things made considering their play style or their meme-ability.
Truth be told no… my day sucked.. but! Now it’s getting better.
I couldnt get why showtime kept retreating is he that scared of bio with 3 collossus 13 warp gates and 3 disruptors cmon he should of pushed earlier
Here is a new punch line for you: “Two siege tanks hop into a medevac…” (and place your dad joke here). Karen and Brenda shouldn’t be alone 😅
Protoss the race that can throw a 3-1 lead.
What a comeback!
Feels like ranged libs are way too oppressive against toss, there's really nothing good the toss can do vs. them. If they build tempests, those need constant babysitting because otherwise a swarm of vikings will easily take them out with EMP on top. They also need oracle revelation to properly shoot libs.
I mean, it is the same vs. lategame zerg armies, but in a straight up fight, the zerg just loses and thus the protoss has much more room to maneuvre. Vs. Terran in a straight up fight, it is not remotely close, the T rolls over toss, so protecting your tempests with your ground army actually becomes a liability.
I'm new to this, what is the win condition? Because the base still exists so it's not base destruction obviously
Theoretically it is base destruction aka if a player loses if they have no buildings left. However in practice players surrender before that because they know when the game is over
@@Valkeyring ahh thank you for that info
Winter, you’re a very good announcer.
god damn, what a final
Wait... is this THE Showtime from WC3? I think it was Showtime.WeRRa
Great series!!
I bet showtime wanted to cry after he saw the replay of game 5. I would have if I was him knowing the money at stake
Wow game 5!