Idk, I’m not a hiring manager and I haven’t interviewed this person, but that’s what they are asking, right, how to get interviews? You even say yourself that “yes, you have the right pieces, you are an impressive person” But you just list off their credentials like they shouldn’t be putting them on their resume? You even dismiss their 3.8 but then laud the 3.4 from the commenter later in the video. Just because they have had interviews? The messaging here is all over the place. Yes, he is probably not being completely humble and may have interpersonal problems that prevent interview success. But you are also dismissing that we are in the worst job market in recent memory. Also, you are dismissing the post as entitled in an ironically smug way that just boils down to “you have to keep on going and try different things” real profound statement there. This is my bias review of this useless video because it struck a nerve.
Eeeeeeehhhh.... you're making a TON of assumptions here. I don't disagree that coming off as a self-important twat is about the worst thing you can do as far as getting hired, well, ANYWHERE, goes... that said, the fact of the matter *is* that the job market of today is *not* what so many of us were promised all our lives growing up -- heck, that applies to most aspects of our lived experience. We were told to go to college, get an education, study this and that, join X organization, do Y extracurricular, yadda yadda... that if we did all of those things, that we'd be sitting pretty earning a nice living; that we'd be the bosses of our peers who took the 'easy' route and coasted on the back of their privilege and natural gifts. Anyone with any idea of what's going on around them knows that this objectively isn't the case for the overwhelming majority of us. We were encouraged to work at, say, FANG -- and for what? For more than half of us to get laid off within a few years of work, once all that venture capital ran out and the inherently unsustainable business models had to reckon with that unsustainability? There are a myriad of reasons why an otherwise very qualified and capable candidate ends up recieving seemingly-unending streams of rejections. *Could* it be that they're coming across abrasively in their CVs/Resumes? Certainly (though do you really think NO ONE who would have looked over it would have the mind to point out "hey, you're coming across as a bit of a twat" -- despite that sort of thing being evident enough for you to immediately assume that that's the case). That *could* be the case. But to just start out making that assumption? To essentially go "ah, well, you're probably just a conceited prick and that's why you aren't getting hired"? Idk, man. To me, at least, that smacks of a lack of awareness. It makes you come across as smugly as you assume the person who made the post to be. Like, you aren't saying anything that's necessarily *wrong* per se, but... I dunno. I can't help but feel like there were far better ways to make your point -- ways that wouldn't involve you condescending to someone who's clearly frustrated at the dissonance between what they were led to expect, and what *is*.
Totally agree with you - I think my response had a pretty severe bias because I’ve run into a lot of people in my own life that insist that they are doing *everything* correctly and usually aren’t too open to the idea that they could go about things differently, so some of that frustration came through I also should have gone more into what you are talking about - how there are these set expectations that leave a lot of people despondent when the job search doesn’t pan out as promised And the point about how OP is “not that special”, I probably shoulda focused more on how competitive the market is rather than just digging into them 🥴 But ya overall, should’ve been more tactful in my approach
Pionting out the humility is important because it's the biggest thing the writer can actually do something about. We can't just change the conditions of the market, but we can always work on ourselves.
he probably has college counselors to go over his resume - however, while this will make it uniform and professional, you end up looking like "one of the crowd"
Depends on the job. In junior IT you want to make your resume not stand out, because people who review it are more likey to pick you up because it's easier to read if it's has sorta "standard" design(In my experience)
Fair - but also this may be the “popular movie” situation. Some people don’t like a lot of popular movies, calling them uninspired/boring - but there is a reason why they are so popular and that’s because they work. I think it’s the same reasoning behind calling stuff “basic” - everyone is doing it so it doesn’t seem special, but everyone is doing it because it works that well
@@GauruvVirk ^i DEFINITELY fall into that category. Ultimately this would probably something youd tailor to the specific job youre applying for. Like SpaceX would be looking for more creative out of the box thinkers where as a bridge building company probably want a 'by the book' guy,
The problem is that companies know they can hire actual talent, and at a cheaper price than at any time in recent history. Why would they hire someone right out of school over an actual established engineer with accomplishments? Experience trumps all. I am very, very sad at the reality right now, tech and engineering are in dire straits, and I'm sorry to him :(
Don't agree with the statements being made about the person, the expectation of a job after college is completely different from how nice guys act, it changes completely when you treat human beings as things as well not just jobs You talk about the post striking a nerve despite your video being far worse at that given the comments. The entire watch is peppered with unnecessary insults that I can't possibly expect to help anymore improve, they will only end with someone being more stressed and feeling less deserving It's unfortunate that this is true but recruiters that act like you are one of the worst, most corrupt parts of the industry and I can guarantee sometimes it won't matter how good a candidate is, the candidate will not get the job
Problem is, yall did the wrong engineering. Wanna be a Hydraulogy engineer? Structural engineer? A "lowly" Civil engineer? Jobs aplenty. We're always hiring, come get a paycheck. You want to be an environental engineer, nuclear engineer, or worse, mechanical engineer? Good luck finding a job. We dont have a use for hundred thousands of new mechanical engineers a year, and we're not building nuclear sites - yet.
3:35 I'd be fine with that styrofoam cup bcuz it's money, resources, and someone's consideration for my existence in those environments. So yeah, a mind for gratefulness goes a long way to building personal relationships along with others
What... is this video. The entire intro is you trashing one person with almost no applicability to a general audience. No, their Reddit post is probably not written the same as their resume. I'm not sure how you expect a person to write this kind of Reddit post without rambling off their credentials. You're holding an informal, conversational Reddit post up to the same standard as a resume and mocking the person for it, which just feels really gross, especially considering they're a college student who is likely in their early 20s.
I agree and disagree, the first 5 minutes could have been one minute but it was still a good reality check. I'm in a similar position to OP and I think I got some value out of this.
Gauruv I'm glad ur a youtuber, i found u through the davis stuff (my application due in 2 weeks lol) and stayed cuz ur funny, idk dude u just give me hope at a time where all i hear is "yap yap job market bad yap yap", thanks for making me more exited for college and actually get out there
Question for the comments: Given only the information provided in the original post, would you hire this person if you were a manager?
Idk, I’m not a hiring manager and I haven’t interviewed this person, but that’s what they are asking, right, how to get interviews?
You even say yourself that “yes, you have the right pieces, you are an impressive person”
But you just list off their credentials like they shouldn’t be putting them on their resume? You even dismiss their 3.8 but then laud the 3.4 from the commenter later in the video. Just because they have had interviews? The messaging here is all over the place.
Yes, he is probably not being completely humble and may have interpersonal problems that prevent interview success. But you are also dismissing that we are in the worst job market in recent memory.
Also, you are dismissing the post as entitled in an ironically smug way that just boils down to “you have to keep on going and try different things” real profound statement there.
This is my bias review of this useless video because it struck a nerve.
Eeeeeeehhhh.... you're making a TON of assumptions here. I don't disagree that coming off as a self-important twat is about the worst thing you can do as far as getting hired, well, ANYWHERE, goes... that said, the fact of the matter *is* that the job market of today is *not* what so many of us were promised all our lives growing up -- heck, that applies to most aspects of our lived experience. We were told to go to college, get an education, study this and that, join X organization, do Y extracurricular, yadda yadda... that if we did all of those things, that we'd be sitting pretty earning a nice living; that we'd be the bosses of our peers who took the 'easy' route and coasted on the back of their privilege and natural gifts.
Anyone with any idea of what's going on around them knows that this objectively isn't the case for the overwhelming majority of us.
We were encouraged to work at, say, FANG -- and for what? For more than half of us to get laid off within a few years of work, once all that venture capital ran out and the inherently unsustainable business models had to reckon with that unsustainability?
There are a myriad of reasons why an otherwise very qualified and capable candidate ends up recieving seemingly-unending streams of rejections. *Could* it be that they're coming across abrasively in their CVs/Resumes? Certainly (though do you really think NO ONE who would have looked over it would have the mind to point out "hey, you're coming across as a bit of a twat" -- despite that sort of thing being evident enough for you to immediately assume that that's the case). That *could* be the case.
But to just start out making that assumption? To essentially go "ah, well, you're probably just a conceited prick and that's why you aren't getting hired"?
Idk, man. To me, at least, that smacks of a lack of awareness. It makes you come across as smugly as you assume the person who made the post to be.
Like, you aren't saying anything that's necessarily *wrong* per se, but... I dunno. I can't help but feel like there were far better ways to make your point -- ways that wouldn't involve you condescending to someone who's clearly frustrated at the dissonance between what they were led to expect, and what *is*.
Totally agree with you - I think my response had a pretty severe bias because I’ve run into a lot of people in my own life that insist that they are doing *everything* correctly and usually aren’t too open to the idea that they could go about things differently, so some of that frustration came through
I also should have gone more into what you are talking about - how there are these set expectations that leave a lot of people despondent when the job search doesn’t pan out as promised
And the point about how OP is “not that special”, I probably shoulda focused more on how competitive the market is rather than just digging into them 🥴
But ya overall, should’ve been more tactful in my approach
Pionting out the humility is important because it's the biggest thing the writer can actually do something about. We can't just change the conditions of the market, but we can always work on ourselves.
he probably has college counselors to go over his resume - however, while this will make it uniform and professional, you end up looking like "one of the crowd"
Depends on the job. In junior IT you want to make your resume not stand out, because people who review it are more likey to pick you up because it's easier to read if it's has sorta "standard" design(In my experience)
Fair - but also this may be the “popular movie” situation. Some people don’t like a lot of popular movies, calling them uninspired/boring - but there is a reason why they are so popular and that’s because they work. I think it’s the same reasoning behind calling stuff “basic” - everyone is doing it so it doesn’t seem special, but everyone is doing it because it works that well
@@GauruvVirk ^i DEFINITELY fall into that category. Ultimately this would probably something youd tailor to the specific job youre applying for. Like SpaceX would be looking for more creative out of the box thinkers where as a bridge building company probably want a 'by the book' guy,
The problem is that companies know they can hire actual talent, and at a cheaper price than at any time in recent history. Why would they hire someone right out of school over an actual established engineer with accomplishments? Experience trumps all. I am very, very sad at the reality right now, tech and engineering are in dire straits, and I'm sorry to him :(
I agree with you - that was the point I tried to make at 4:12 but ended up being a little too mean to OP 🫠
Can you come down to reality for a second and leave the linkedIn homepage?
LOL
Don't agree with the statements being made about the person, the expectation of a job after college is completely different from how nice guys act, it changes completely when you treat human beings as things as well not just jobs
You talk about the post striking a nerve despite your video being far worse at that given the comments. The entire watch is peppered with unnecessary insults that I can't possibly expect to help anymore improve, they will only end with someone being more stressed and feeling less deserving
It's unfortunate that this is true but recruiters that act like you are one of the worst, most corrupt parts of the industry and I can guarantee sometimes it won't matter how good a candidate is, the candidate will not get the job
Ya I agree - some of my commentary was unnecessary and actually probably took away from the actual advice
physically go to the place you want to work and talk to someone - the internet is saturated atm
made this comment bfore you got to this in the vid but im 100% on board with what u said
@@nickolaiorlov4732yup! If you are able to go in, I would definitely take that opportunity 🙂↕️
Problem is, yall did the wrong engineering. Wanna be a Hydraulogy engineer? Structural engineer? A "lowly" Civil engineer? Jobs aplenty. We're always hiring, come get a paycheck.
You want to be an environental engineer, nuclear engineer, or worse, mechanical engineer? Good luck finding a job. We dont have a use for hundred thousands of new mechanical engineers a year, and we're not building nuclear sites - yet.
Results will vary depending on the specific field of engineering - correct
I am going to be to the job market soon and it's intimidating to say the least. Watching this helps me feel a little less afraid.
Glad to hear! Best of luck! 🫡
@GauruvVirk To you as well! Hopefully I can do power systems some where like I want to.
3:35 I'd be fine with that styrofoam cup bcuz it's money, resources, and someone's consideration for my existence in those environments. So yeah, a mind for gratefulness goes a long way to building personal relationships along with others
Facts
moist critical
shoutout Charlie 🐧
What... is this video. The entire intro is you trashing one person with almost no applicability to a general audience. No, their Reddit post is probably not written the same as their resume. I'm not sure how you expect a person to write this kind of Reddit post without rambling off their credentials. You're holding an informal, conversational Reddit post up to the same standard as a resume and mocking the person for it, which just feels really gross, especially considering they're a college student who is likely in their early 20s.
Ya I agree with you - my response was too personal when it didn’t have to be and took some focus away from actually helping OP
I agree and disagree, the first 5 minutes could have been one minute but it was still a good reality check. I'm in a similar position to OP and I think I got some value out of this.
Gauruv I'm glad ur a youtuber, i found u through the davis stuff (my application due in 2 weeks lol) and stayed cuz ur funny, idk dude u just give me hope at a time where all i hear is "yap yap job market bad yap yap", thanks for making me more exited for college and actually get out there
Yooo thanks so much for the kind words! I'm glad I can help in any way and hope the application process goes well! 🫡