You can fit the US, China, India and western europe into africa and still have space. We speak more languages than the rest rest of world combined, a country like Chad has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world (combined), in some of the smallest countries in the world like Rwanda, you have the tallest people in the world (tutsi/nilotes), the strongest and most resilient people in the world (hutus/bantu) which is probably the case of both Francis and Shannon, and the shortest people in world (Twa/pigmies). Africa is too diverse to understand. But about family responsibility, he is spot on. Your wedding is not about you, it's a family union.
Facts. First thing he mention is energy. And later on to build community, it is not about selfish motives. I saw all the time some guys desire it but can’t take care of multiple women.
It can be but occidental people only think about sexe they cheat a lot and have no moral polygamy is only for real man not the fake man who only think with what they have between there legs
It is totally true. Americans do not realize that people from the economically weakest countries are in fact the mentally strongest people because they have no other choice for their survival unlike Americans who can benefit from numerous government aids in addition to the fact that they live in the richest country in the world.
The dude was talking on a level that Shannon and most American men can't even comprehend. The dude said if a brother passes, one of the other brothers must take on the responsibility of his wife and children by marrying the widow for the safety and care of the CHILDREN. Of course I wouldn't want to marry my brothers wives, but under those circumstances I totally understand and would do it.
You do know you don't need to marry & sleep with your brothers wife in order to look after her right? You could just make sure her & the kids don't have to worry about much.
@tdot8398 The key word was "MARRY" my brothers wife. Neither I nor the gentleman in the video even remotely mentioned "sleeping with" the woman. I could never sleep with my brothers wives, but I'm not from their culture. In that part of the world, they don't take MARRIAGE lightly like we do in the west. To marry your brothers wife is to ensure his children are raised in the confines of a marriage under God and not some bs charity situationship.
@ALCanes73 I can still take care of my brothers wife & Raise my nieces & nephews as my own without marrying her bro. I can even move them I to my home as one big family. But marrying her prevents her from dating & finding a new husband. The Bible says she's allowed to remarry if widowed.
I'm a Cameroonian, Ngannou is from the bamileke region which borders the english speaking zone. He grew up not speaking english, mainly because his family couldn't afford it, but he learnt english so fast because to communicate with the english speakers in Cameroon ( his neighbors) pidgin english is used. Pidgin isn't english, but it has alot of english words therein it kind of prepped him up.. Now as concerns marriage in Cameroon (and most west africa) , it was a big deal about several decades back- period of our grand parents. This was because most population were agrarian and needed the extra hands and support to take care of their farms. That's why wealthy landowners married multiple wives: because they needed the extra hands for the labor. Today, most africans youth have shifted from agriculture to other industries. Life has become much more busier, there's less lands to cultivate as in several generations ago, thus big families are more difficult to support. Also in the present age, children are a greater responsibility since they now go to schools, need more clothes and toys, generally it's more expensive to raise kids today than before, hence many are backing out.
@@IamGodSonhe says in the interview (if you watch the whole interview) that he only knew a few words in pidgin which I assume he was probably referring to Camfranglais which has a few words in pidgin here and there and someone who speak Camfranglais would not be able to line up 2 or 3 sentences together in full pidgin.
Ain't nobody need to explain it to me. I've been dealing with women romantically for awhile from all walks of life. I've learned true happiness comes from commitment to 1 while occasionally/intermittently having very short flings with others along the way.
In most African tribes if a married woman's husband dies, the custom is that one of the late husbands brothers must take on the responsibility of marrying the widow and adopting the children. This is done to ensure that the widow and her children are taken care of and to also prevent the children from being brought up by a man who is not of the same bloodline in order to preserve family identity, tradition and culture. Owing to Christianity, westernization and change in the economic and social structure, this is no longer as widely practiced as in the past. e.g. there were no orphanages in the past and women did not have the opportunity to work and live independently etc...
Funny how today’s Christianity looks down on this, but one woman in the Bible married 7 brothers. I believe people started interpreting the Bible to suit their lifestyles, without getting the actual message.
This is pure nonsense you don't know anything about africa . Also africa is really diverse which culture in particular ??? You ignorant fools need to stop talking as if you knw
I'm African and Polygamy was a Responsibility and Many Men Would've preferred only one wife as the responsibility of 50 wives being pushed on you was a lot.
Taking your brother's wife when he dies: Our brother's wives call us husbands by tradition and we call them wives in return. This lays the ground for such circumstances where if that happens, already we are mentally prepared for it. It is also worth mentioning that its not forced to do so but a convenient option which most widows take but also not shunned if they don't take it.
In Jewish/Hebrew traditions it was called levirate marriage. There are several stories in the Bible related to the subject. Even the Biblical story story of Ruth and Boaz is based on the law of levirate marriage although Boaz was not a sibling of the deceased husband but a cousin.
@conchobar there was even a situation in the Bible where a guy didn't want to sleep with his deceased brother's wife so he "spilled his seed on the ground" so God killed him for it
Not every tribe does that. The matriarchal societies such as the Ashantis of Ghana where inheritance is from the mother side do not do such a thing. The Bantus of Cameroun are patriarchal societies. They inherit from the father side.
Wrong. Marriage is Both. Your best friend you want to and need to take care of, to share memories and make a life with together. Growing together. There will always be stress but there should always be happiness and love. It won’t be all the time, but most of the time.
As an African, I can confirm and bring clarity that, in Africa there are multiple tribes and each tradition for each. Depending on what your tribe is you will be following tradition at least you re born in big Cities but if it's countryside, yeah, you're going to follow 100% you like it or not. Polygamy is not a game but a big responsibility and it's not for everybody. I can't be in polygamy you gotta love every wife at the same level.. what ??😅😆😅
Very interesting. My Cameroonian girlfriend sometimes complains to me, saying she is used to Cameroonian traditions. For instance, that a man should pay for a woman’s living expenses. She never mentioned this part.
Modern woman requiring traditional treatment? Run!! Get to the choppa. I ain't paying no living expenses for no working educated woman in 2023. You must have me fvcked up
I am Nigerian and the everything Ngannou explained marriage is part of my culture and was what I learnt growing up. It's so funny how African culture of marriage has so much similarities across different regions.
His explanation of the polygamy concept is relevant to 98% of African societies. Where I'm from (Kenya) very few communities practice wife inheritance.
@@mikehansen7610 nit necessarily. If you have a wife with a personality disorder or psychotic traits, she can and will stress you out in which case you didn't choose well cos you failed to screen properly for those issues before getting married. But then again many people don't know how to identify such traits in people
@@tvs9978 I knew someone would say that. I chose to say what I said because I'm pretty sure that applied to him as most women don't have a "personality disorder" - they're just women. In any event, a real man won't put up with a wife giving him a headache because he has options by virtue of him being a man of high value.
This was really cool to learn about. I was wondering why some of my coworkers had so many half siblings that they were close with.. You gotta do what you gotta do to survive
No you don't, its better to just move on from this life with no offspring than it is to force children into a state of need. Unless you are wealthy you should never have children.
"Half sibling" is borderline derogatory in most parts of Africa. There is no such a thing as half brother or half sister, it's just a sister or a brother whether you share one parent or both.
That tradition is in the Bible. If a woman has no kids , and her husband die. Her husband's parents has to give her another son to get married so she can have heritage.
@@hairyprince4271Nothing. There are a lot of weak people with self esteem issues. They like to throw around rumours and nonsense to feel better about themselves.
As he says polygamy most of the time wasn't by choice, but was a man's responsibility. And in America amongst fundamentalist Mormons polygamy is an obligation and often the man doesn't even have any say in who the new wives are. The wives choose the women to add to their family. This means that the wives are compatible. So Shannon and his fantasies about polygamy are far from the truth.
You’re right it is fantasies because he’s just thinking about it sexually and from a selfish point of view. That’s why the last comment he made was… I’m glad that’s not in America!
No, when a man was extremely wealthy, he could choose the women he wanted. Depending on the type of husband he was he could decide to be a tyrant or a benefactor, as in take the feelings of the other wives into consideration or not. In almost every part of the world, wealth brought more freedom.
b/c the cultural norms that he explained of polygamy are mostly, if not all, the same in Africa. Just read the comment section and you'll see people from African countries agreeing. That's your proof.
Marrying your husband’s brother was also about keeping the children in the same family/bloodline if you’re young enough to have more children after your husband passes. It was also mainly about keeping the wealth in the family - you can’t have a wife just walk away with the family’s assets and potentially share them with another man/family in future. In Africa land, assets tend to be communally owned although a son would be the chief custodian. You need to keep the wives in the family fold and give them and your brothers children stability and protection. In the same way we don’t really believe in ‘cousins’. If your parents are siblings you’re siblings.
I’m American. My “Cousins” include more than people whose parents are my parents’ siblings. As a child I played with cousins who our grandparents, great grandparents or great great grandparents are siblings. What you are describing we call first cousins but our concept of cousins doesn’t stop there in my culture. That would mean you guys could consider hundreds or even thousands of people to be your siblings.
Actually, most African families are not allowing the widow to leave with anything substantial. Its more about the kids and saving face than it is about wealth. The family head and elders are the ones that control the distribution of wealth, no widow is taking a family's wealth and handing it over to another man.
you know, even though i like francis, i was still scared when he started to say something like 'the women in america' but then he brought it home so beautifully. this guy is a true great
In my culture as well. The blood line is preserved and protected. It’s weird but some of us understand the principle. It’s like arrange marriage for some based on the cultural agreement.
@@MartianTane You say that as if one is intrinsically superior. Plenty of Eastern cultures would frown on Polygamy anyway. Leave it to the traditionalist that acts like wanting some fun is a crime lol.
The taking of your late brother's wife is to keep the family secure. It is called ukungenwa in Nguni/Ngoni culture (Zulu word). The wife is still considered your late brother's wife, you are carrying on the duties. Francis is correct about it being a sense of responsibility and not about feelings.
You are better off marrying an African woman than an American woman. Even though western culture is taking over, they still have values and self respect to a certain extent
It's interesting how you can hear the different perspectives. In the West everything is about pleasure or debauchery. In Africa, everything has meaning. 2 totally different concepts.
@@CJM23 I wanted to say that since a lot of people people in the USA have so many stereotypes or preconceived ideas about Africans and apply them to everybody and to all parts in Africa. They even think Africa is a country with villages to begin with.
@@naucha you have parts in Africa’s countries where what Francis was talking about happens. Not everywhere. The precision is important to be underlined because of the stereotypes that people from USA and even Europe have about African people. Furthermore and he highlighted that during the interview, this tends to happen less and less where it used to be a thing and he explained the reasons.
Agreed. Christians forbid polygamy. Many Africans are strict Christians. Also (where I'm from SE Nigeria) African wmn (wives and daughters) are not allowed to inherit their father (family) assets. Which pressures wmn to keep producing babies, and/or allowing their husband to bring an additional wife to increase the likelihood of the husband producing a son/sons to carry on the family business/inherit the assets.
It used to be like this worldwide but then the Romans took over and implemented their ways of doing things. We went from Lion like mentality to Wolves which should make sense if you think hard.
Out of 54 countries in Africa I can guarantee you that at least 45 are heavy on polygamy one way or another. It's ok to talk in general terms when the behaviour it's widespread.
Bruh, if my bro died leaving behind a family Id most certainly take on his family. They are my family. The way Shannon responded was intriguing. “Glad it didn’t happen in America.” If anything it’s more an indictment of the poor character and emaciated and dilapidated structure if the family in America.
My great uncle had 4 wives in Biafra/Nigeria. It was a cultural sign of status for those that were doing well or a Cheif. It creates a lot of wahala when you have 12 kids and you try to split your time and resources.
Thats the part people in the comment sections are not mentioning. They’re painting it like it a purely cultural action but as long as it people in the equation there are going to be issues.
Unrelated question: in Nigeria, do you call the siblings of your grandparents "great aunts" and "great uncles"? Or, do you use those terms for the siblings of your great grandparents? I ask because in the Caribbean, many of us call the siblings of our grandparents "grand aunts" and "grand uncles"; great aunts and uncles would be at the great grandparents level. I've only heard Americans use "great aunt" and "great uncle" to refer to the siblings of their grandparents. I was wondering if Nigeria uses the same terms as the British Caribbean, and you are just choosing to use the American terms in your comment. Just wondering. No judgment 😆
Everything he said was to benefit the community. We are so spoiled here today that we’ve life hacked the institution & community building for the purpose of fun & self-centeredness. ..How interesting
There are more similarities than there are differences among sub Saharan Africans especially when it comes to family structures and roles and responsibilities.
Although the comments saying that Francis doesn't speak for all of Africa are correct, I can assure you he's speaking the truth for how Oromos (the largest ethnic group in East Africa) traditionally treated polygamy - not so much the part about a successful man having the responsibility to give opportunities to different communities (though an unsuccessful man is discouraged from having multiple wives), but moreso that regarding the procession for widows to be remarried (we call it Dhaalaa) and how marriage was more of a socio-economic contract where a man provides for a woman, and a woman, in turn, bears his children.
btw this also goes the other way 'round. if the wife passe and has sisters, often one of the sisters will marry the widowed husband to again "ensure the children aren't raised by a stranger". the culture is more interested in the children's well-fare and also there is an economic element. if the widowed spouse marries from the outside that means the kids' inheritance is no longer guaranteed.
At first when he said a brother would take the wife it sounded wrong but when he explains that some random man wouldn't see the kids as his but someone in the family circle would see it as keeping the family together, it made sense to me. Very interesting, I learned something new today, thank you gentlemen.
African women, for the most part, don't really curve men that work hard regardless of their profession, looks or social status. That's a western thing.
@@Mdmeskywlkr007that's not true, you got women saying they don't want a 9-5 dude they want a six figure earner or a scammer. Women curve nerds with IT jobs all the time
It kills me how people disassociate from what they claim to believe in-the concept of taking a brother’s wife is also in the Bible…. I do appreciate how Francis explained that though
Even as a Christian, something being in the bible doesnt automatically make it worth doing. Alot of it has nuance and is about separating the culture of Jews from your relationship with God. Exactly like how Jesus pointed out.
He's a good man. Definitely husband material. And a high value man. His head is in the right place. Men like this is so rare these days. Intelligent and wise. Nice that he also explained the reason for multiple wives and where that came from.
Dont really know the gentleman but what a brilliant explanation!! Marriage was a responsibility. As an east african am surprised by the similarities in african culture.
Francis didn't explain the taking over of a deceased relative's wife correctly. Yes, one of the surviving brothers would be expected to take over or marry a deceased relative's wife and all. But, they do not have to consummate the marrige or live under the same roof.
Perhaps not in your culture. In many cultures they are expected to...furthermore if the deceased was wealthy, he takes over the estate as well. Many have corrupted this aspect of culture and used it as a pretext to appropriate a sibling's wealth and attimes not use it to take care of the widow and her children.
Even though African Americans, like Shannon , find these cultures strange and alien this is exactly the way their forefathers lived this is also their history and authentic original culture - visiting Africa is like cultural time travelling for the African American
Yes, your ancestors also had slaves so do you want to copy them too? People used to live in a hut so why don’t you go live in a hut with no electricity? Not everything is worth keeping.
Polygamy in certain parts of Africa, particularly west Africa was more prevalent in the past when the societies were mostly agrarian. Men married multiple wives at a time and had numerous kids mainly to have enough hands to work the farm lands thereby producing for both selling & consumption more farm products at cheaper cost. The more wives and kids you had, the cheaper your cost of farming labor and the bigger your farm harvest and the richer you are or get but nowadays things have changed as most west African societies are no longer agrarian but industrial and digital. Most west Africans don't depend on rural farming as a source of income/survival and that have made Polygamy less useful and very much unattractive to today's young Africans. Polygamy was mostly out of necessity and not choice in the Africa of old🙂
Focus on your goals. Get it. Men can produce kids at 80, so he got plenty of time. Live your life. Hopefully, Cameroon economy is better so that women can live independently and take care of themselves.
Men got time? They usually pass away before women. Also, Google science research, men older than 60 years old produce a higher number of children with autism and drepanocytose.
The problem with the world is people like you who think having children to fill your ego just like the fool in this video. The families that live the good life came from parents who taught about their children and brought them into this world at the right time and for the right reasons. Everyone else experiencing poverty and suffering can blame the selfishness of their parents.
Having children should be regulated. It should be based on credit on how fit you are mentally, physically, and financially the same way adoption is regulated.
man francis is a force to be reckonened with. this man is a genius very insightful, very deep, hope he continues on his journey as the baddest man on the planet! great interview Shannon you ask the realest questions and create such an opened space we appreciate that Love, Strenght, Blessings in Abundance!
Polygamy is not about having f*ck buddies its about dedication, care and support for your wives. The man must be hard working and financially capable to take care of his women and give them their needs under the unification of marriage. Its not a game! And if done right can be blissful for the women and the man.
@candorsspot2775 in South African culture, the wives have their own houses and the husband has his own house...the wives normally meet at the husband's house & sometimes the man would take all the kids to spend time with them without the wives
The thing he talks about marrying from your vicinity is true. Ghanaians are fond of setting their kids up with successful people. If you get money they don't mind you dating in their family and finally marrying them 😂. Nice interview
I watched a documentaries on husband's with multiple wives, one was Arab another African. Those we're the funniest docs I'd ever seen. The Arab wives were going in on the husband manhood, and the African husband said, one of his wives asked who did he love the most? He said, he only loved his mom the most.
I think some American men need to have conversations with their Grandmother's and female elders. They may be surprised about the mindset those Women had entering into marriage , especially before the 70's.
This needs to go viral. Because a lot of men want polygamy and use africa as an excuse but don't know the truth.
Because they don't know our culture
You can fit the US, China, India and western europe into africa and still have space. We speak more languages than the rest rest of world combined, a country like Chad has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world (combined), in some of the smallest countries in the world like Rwanda, you have the tallest people in the world (tutsi/nilotes), the strongest and most resilient people in the world (hutus/bantu) which is probably the case of both Francis and Shannon, and the shortest people in world (Twa/pigmies). Africa is too diverse to understand. But about family responsibility, he is spot on. Your wedding is not about you, it's a family union.
Africa is a whole continent with tons of different cultures
Facts. First thing he mention is energy. And later on to build community, it is not about selfish motives. I saw all the time some guys desire it but can’t take care of multiple women.
The truth is the ratio of women to men is substantial. that's why men have always been obligated to take care of more than one woman.
The main point is responsibility to the community as a man. Something we’re definitely struggling with in America
I don't think Unc question was from a place of malice or anything negative he was asking a question in a light-hearted manner.
This is nonsense
Your a 🤡
Thanks for explaining to them that polygamy in Africa isn't what they think
It can be but occidental people only think about sexe they cheat a lot and have no moral polygamy is only for real man not the fake man who only think with what they have between there legs
Which part of Africa?
In Cameroon.
@@TshumuKokgalagadi Also in Uganda. Is it different where you are from?
Kongo as well it is all responsibily
The things Americans don't know when they want to emulate other cultures. It's not always about fun. YOu have to be a Stand up man to do those things.
"a stand up man" something you dont hear often,folks have forgotten about duty
Yup they be having multiple kids any how and then use Africa as an excuse to justify it.
It is totally true. Americans do not realize that people from the economically weakest countries are in fact the mentally strongest people because they have no other choice for their survival unlike Americans who can benefit from numerous government aids in addition to the fact that they live in the richest country in the world.
The dude was talking on a level that Shannon and most American men can't even comprehend. The dude said if a brother passes, one of the other brothers must take on the responsibility of his wife and children by marrying the widow for the safety and care of the CHILDREN. Of course I wouldn't want to marry my brothers wives, but under those circumstances I totally understand and would do it.
You should educate yourself so you’ll understand that stereotyping is extremely uninformed. This is not hard to understand, sad you think it is.
You do know you don't need to marry & sleep with your brothers wife in order to look after her right? You could just make sure her & the kids don't have to worry about much.
I read about this in the Bible, I guess that rule is still common to this day.
@tdot8398 The key word was "MARRY" my brothers wife. Neither I nor the gentleman in the video even remotely mentioned "sleeping with" the woman. I could never sleep with my brothers wives, but I'm not from their culture. In that part of the world, they don't take MARRIAGE lightly like we do in the west. To marry your brothers wife is to ensure his children are raised in the confines of a marriage under God and not some bs charity situationship.
@ALCanes73 I can still take care of my brothers wife & Raise my nieces & nephews as my own without marrying her bro. I can even move them I to my home as one big family. But marrying her prevents her from dating & finding a new husband. The Bible says she's allowed to remarry if widowed.
I'm a Cameroonian, Ngannou is from the bamileke region which borders the english speaking zone. He grew up not speaking english, mainly because his family couldn't afford it, but he learnt english so fast because to communicate with the english speakers in Cameroon ( his neighbors) pidgin english is used. Pidgin isn't english, but it has alot of english words therein it kind of prepped him up..
Now as concerns marriage in Cameroon (and most west africa) , it was a big deal about several decades back- period of our grand parents. This was because most population were agrarian and needed the extra hands and support to take care of their farms. That's why wealthy landowners married multiple wives: because they needed the extra hands for the labor.
Today, most africans youth have shifted from agriculture to other industries. Life has become much more busier, there's less lands to cultivate as in several generations ago, thus big families are more difficult to support.
Also in the present age, children are a greater responsibility since they now go to schools, need more clothes and toys, generally it's more expensive to raise kids today than before, hence many are backing out.
Ngannou spoke absolutely no English nor pidgin until he came to the US.
@@jdong7527 He was speaking pidgin before he left Cameroon.
Yeah. You have the right information about the origins of polygamy in Africa. God bless u for setting the records straight
How much does learning English cost?
@@IamGodSonhe says in the interview (if you watch the whole interview) that he only knew a few words in pidgin which I assume he was probably referring to Camfranglais which has a few words in pidgin here and there and someone who speak Camfranglais would not be able to line up 2 or 3 sentences together in full pidgin.
The Way He Explained It... I Only Need 1 Wife 😂😂😂😂
No lie! 😂🥴🥴
Ain't nobody need to explain it to me. I've been dealing with women romantically for awhile from all walks of life. I've learned true happiness comes from commitment to 1 while occasionally/intermittently having very short flings with others along the way.
@@planetStreeter😂😂😂😂👍
@@planetStreeteragreed💯💪🏿
@@planetStreeterYes indeed
Finally a brother with sense and understanding of polygamy.
He said nothing that wasn't common sense
@@myronbourne6937 sense is not common lately
He's your brother?@@taf7ylandy913
In most African tribes if a married woman's husband dies, the custom is that one of the late husbands brothers must take on the responsibility of marrying the widow and adopting the children. This is done to ensure that the widow and her children are taken care of and to also prevent the children from being brought up by a man who is not of the same bloodline in order to preserve family identity, tradition and culture. Owing to Christianity, westernization and change in the economic and social structure, this is no longer as widely practiced as in the past. e.g. there were no orphanages in the past and women did not have the opportunity to work and live independently etc...
they do this in China
Thats wrong though. You are only suppose to do that if a man dies without having any children
Funny how today’s Christianity looks down on this, but one woman in the Bible married 7 brothers.
I believe people started interpreting the Bible to suit their lifestyles, without getting the actual message.
This is pure nonsense you don't know anything about africa . Also africa is really diverse which culture in particular ??? You ignorant fools need to stop talking as if you knw
@@tdg3040No. The wife marries a brother. The only exception would be if she doesn't have children..
Polygamy is constitutionally legal in many African countries including Kenya.
Almost all African countriess.
Probably the whole continent
Good
I'm African and Polygamy was a Responsibility and Many Men Would've preferred only one wife as the responsibility of 50 wives being pushed on you was a lot.
Polygamy as nganou says it is responsibility it shapes the family
In Ghana my father married 14 women but we living good
Taking your brother's wife when he dies:
Our brother's wives call us husbands by tradition and we call them wives in return. This lays the ground for such circumstances where if that happens, already we are mentally prepared for it. It is also worth mentioning that its not forced to do so but a convenient option which most widows take but also not shunned if they don't take it.
In Jewish/Hebrew traditions it was called levirate marriage. There are several stories in the Bible related to the subject. Even the Biblical story story of Ruth and Boaz is based on the law of levirate marriage although Boaz was not a sibling of the deceased husband but a cousin.
@conchobar there was even a situation in the Bible where a guy didn't want to sleep with his deceased brother's wife so he "spilled his seed on the ground" so God killed him for it
Not every tribe does that. The matriarchal societies such as the Ashantis of Ghana where inheritance is from the mother side do not do such a thing. The Bantus of Cameroun are patriarchal societies. They inherit from the father side.
@@yawos9024 how many matriarchal societies are in Africa?
@@caleb0388 Very few! I know only in Ghana and Ivory Coast. There might a few somewhere. The Ashantis of Ghana are big time matriarchal.
A wife is a responsibility, marriage as a whole is about responsibility not for pleasure.
Wrong. Marriage is Both. Your best friend you want to and need to take care of, to share memories and make a life with together. Growing together. There will always be stress but there should always be happiness and love. It won’t be all the time, but most of the time.
@@supermansinger2771Lmaoo enjoy divorce court Disney boy. You don’t know what you’re in for.
@@supermansinger2771😂😂😂😂😂😂 Hollyweird has messed up a lot of minds.
The West corrupts everything.
@@supermansinger2771😂
As an African, I can confirm and bring clarity that, in Africa there are multiple tribes and each tradition for each. Depending on what your tribe is you will be following tradition at least you re born in big Cities but if it's countryside, yeah, you're going to follow 100% you like it or not. Polygamy is not a game but a big responsibility and it's not for everybody. I can't be in polygamy you gotta love every wife at the same level.. what ??😅😆😅
Very interesting. My Cameroonian girlfriend sometimes complains to me, saying she is used to Cameroonian traditions. For instance, that a man should pay for a woman’s living expenses. She never mentioned this part.
She left it out conviniently
Modern woman requiring traditional treatment? Run!! Get to the choppa. I ain't paying no living expenses for no working educated woman in 2023. You must have me fvcked up
Why not pay all her bills?
What kind of expenses she got?
well yeah, traditional women are used to traditional cultures
it is tradition that a man pays for everything
@@xboxgamerhr just cos she come from a traditional country don't mean she a traditional woman. That's how men fall for the okey doke.
I am Nigerian and the everything Ngannou explained marriage is part of my culture and was what I learnt growing up. It's so funny how African culture of marriage has so much similarities across different regions.
Same thing here in Uganda- what he explained is also how we do it
Mainly due to the islamic religion.
@@falaiyo98 nah..Muslims practice something entirely different. This is an African tradition.
Bro, Cameroon and Nigeria share an arbitrary border. One people at the end of the day
His explanation of the polygamy concept is relevant to 98% of African societies. Where I'm from (Kenya) very few communities practice wife inheritance.
Great explanation…and that tradition of the brother taking over for a deceased brother sounds a lot like an actual OT biblical tradition as well.
This conversation shows the difference in maturity between these two men.
On average, Americans tend to skip the part about the hard work and only focus on the fun or benefits on pretty much everything they do.
very true...especially in relationships
I used to think polygamy was for me but in reality it’s not.
you gotta have the $ and patience
Name checks out lol polygamy is the antithesis of building wealth nowadays
I'm the opposite. I used to think it wasn't for me but if I had the dough, I'd seriously consider it.
It's for me
Ngannou is a beast. He makes Unc look small...and Unc is a beast.
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Nah.. Unc has triceps and shoulders for days. Maybe the legs
Disagree man they both look huge and Unc seems to have larger arms
Sharpe is broader than him and he is 55...incredible really
Sharp actually seems to be a bit bigger.
Glad Uncle stepped out his comfort zone and interviewed Francis… Francis is super interesting , his mindset is that of a champion
Shannon on all platforms 💪🏽
He spoke very well, proud to have you as a brother
1 woman is enough stress for me.
If your woman is giving you stress, she's not the one for you or you're not the one for her.
@@tvs9978 Exactly , a real man will not be stressed out by his wife because women respect real men.
@@mikehansen7610 nit necessarily. If you have a wife with a personality disorder or psychotic traits, she can and will stress you out in which case you didn't choose well cos you failed to screen properly for those issues before getting married. But then again many people don't know how to identify such traits in people
@@tvs9978 I knew someone would say that. I chose to say what I said because I'm pretty sure that applied to him as most women don't have a "personality disorder" - they're just women. In any event, a real man won't put up with a wife giving him a headache because he has options by virtue of him being a man of high value.
Great episode with, a great explanation of the roots of polygamy.
polygamy of his people
@@tutotutot5193explain polygamy for others.....
This was really cool to learn about. I was wondering why some of my coworkers had so many half siblings that they were close with.. You gotta do what you gotta do to survive
you mean to eff like rabbits
No you don't, its better to just move on from this life with no offspring than it is to force children into a state of need. Unless you are wealthy you should never have children.
"Half sibling" is borderline derogatory in most parts of Africa. There is no such a thing as half brother or half sister, it's just a sister or a brother whether you share one parent or both.
@@ulfkasuto5917 good to know!
That tradition is in the Bible. If a woman has no kids , and her husband die. Her husband's parents has to give her another son to get married so she can have heritage.
Ngannou is too smart to bring his romantic life out in the open, the opposite mindset of Ian Garry.
Ian is a victim of a predator.
The fight community is too small minded to embrace LGBT like other sports. He secured his bag and can live his truth in retirement
@@chiquita683 what exactly are you eluding to
@@hairyprince4271Nothing. There are a lot of weak people with self esteem issues. They like to throw around rumours and nonsense to feel better about themselves.
@@chiquita683 Keep that western degenerate agenda to yourself 😂
As he says polygamy most of the time wasn't by choice, but was a man's responsibility. And in America amongst fundamentalist Mormons polygamy is an obligation and often the man doesn't even have any say in who the new wives are. The wives choose the women to add to their family. This means that the wives are compatible. So Shannon and his fantasies about polygamy are far from the truth.
You’re right it is fantasies because he’s just thinking about it sexually and from a selfish point of view. That’s why the last comment he made was… I’m glad that’s not in America!
No, when a man was extremely wealthy, he could choose the women he wanted. Depending on the type of husband he was he could decide to be a tyrant or a benefactor, as in take the feelings of the other wives into consideration or not. In almost every part of the world, wealth brought more freedom.
Africa has 55 plus countries n over 1000 cultures…,why do pple address Africa like it’s one small village
b/c the cultural norms that he explained of polygamy are mostly, if not all, the same in Africa. Just read the comment section and you'll see people from African countries agreeing. That's your proof.
@@Boom38119 I am from Nigeria and I agree with you
what he is describing is the law of moses in the old testament of the bible
deuteronomy 25:
Yep. Biblical
I just read numbers 31, I'm done with Moses
Marrying your husband’s brother was also about keeping the children in the same family/bloodline if you’re young enough to have more children after your husband passes. It was also mainly about keeping the wealth in the family - you can’t have a wife just walk away with the family’s assets and potentially share them with another man/family in future. In Africa land, assets tend to be communally owned although a son would be the chief custodian. You need to keep the wives in the family fold and give them and your brothers children stability and protection. In the same way we don’t really believe in ‘cousins’. If your parents are siblings you’re siblings.
I’m American. My “Cousins” include more than people whose parents are my parents’ siblings. As a child I played with cousins who our grandparents, great grandparents or great great grandparents are siblings. What you are describing we call first cousins but our concept of cousins doesn’t stop there in my culture. That would mean you guys could consider hundreds or even thousands of people to be your siblings.
Matriarchal societies do not do that. Cameroun is patriarchal.
Actually, most African families are not allowing the widow to leave with anything substantial. Its more about the kids and saving face than it is about wealth. The family head and elders are the ones that control the distribution of wealth, no widow is taking a family's wealth and handing it over to another man.
@@anndeecosita3586 1st cousins are siblings anything after that is relatives.
you know, even though i like francis, i was still scared when he started to say something like 'the women in america' but then he brought it home so beautifully. this guy is a true great
In my culture as well. The blood line is preserved and protected. It’s weird but some of us understand the principle. It’s like arrange marriage for some based on the cultural agreement.
Facts! 💯
Polygamy sounds like a headache anyway. 1 is enough, maybe some more for fun's sake but def not to marry.
There's some prestige to it, just like acquiring more stuff that gives you more of a headache than you need.
@@MartianTane You say that as if one is intrinsically superior. Plenty of Eastern cultures would frown on Polygamy anyway. Leave it to the traditionalist that acts like wanting some fun is a crime lol.
The taking of your late brother's wife is to keep the family secure. It is called ukungenwa in Nguni/Ngoni culture (Zulu word). The wife is still considered your late brother's wife, you are carrying on the duties. Francis is correct about it being a sense of responsibility and not about feelings.
Or ukungena (both verbs)
"You can't take a wife and not sleep with" lol sorry bro
You very funny.😂
As a fellow African, I feel him when people are pushing him to get married.
My African brother, u made my American girlfriend afraid of me after this interview 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 but that's true
You are better off marrying an African woman than an American woman. Even though western culture is taking over, they still have values and self respect to a certain extent
Many are doing this.
Duh of course. Because the culture is different
These statements are what keep our people apart
Go with your best match. Just understand that respect and honor costs and requires a lot
Passport Bro found 😂
It wasn’t for pleasure, it was for family and duty
It's interesting how you can hear the different perspectives. In the West everything is about pleasure or debauchery. In Africa, everything has meaning. 2 totally different concepts.
Thank you, Francis for sharing a proper explanation.
He explained it perfectly. It's exactly like that in so many cultures all across Africa.
I'm impressed, everything he said is true. I'm from South Africa, and it's the same.
I love polygamy, it's good for redistributing wealth.
These ninjas don’t have wealth. What are you talking about…everything they get is from a WM
@@cherryblossoms942 which ninjas? What is wealth to you? I'm talking about a culture that I come from, a cattle rearing culture. That is our wealth.
Polygamy mostly was not by choice but by responsibility to help organize society and to protect woman and children. 💜🗝
That's a beautiful and ACCURATE explanation of polygamy in traditional African societies on the continent.
There are lot of nuances to what he said and that is not the case everywhere in Africa (not even everywhere in Cameroon).
Please Elaborate
He's talking about his village, not making a broadstroke statement for Africa.
@@CJM23 I wanted to say that since a lot of people people in the USA have so many stereotypes or preconceived ideas about Africans and apply them to everybody and to all parts in Africa. They even think Africa is a country with villages to begin with.
@@naucha you have parts in Africa’s countries where what Francis was talking about happens. Not everywhere. The precision is important to be underlined because of the stereotypes that people from USA and even Europe have about African people. Furthermore and he highlighted that during the interview, this tends to happen less and less where it used to be a thing and he explained the reasons.
Agreed. Christians forbid polygamy. Many Africans are strict Christians.
Also (where I'm from SE Nigeria) African wmn (wives and daughters) are not allowed to inherit their father (family) assets. Which pressures wmn to keep producing babies, and/or allowing their husband to bring an additional wife to increase the likelihood of the husband producing a son/sons to carry on the family business/inherit the assets.
It used to be like this worldwide but then the Romans took over and implemented their ways of doing things. We went from Lion like mentality to Wolves which should make sense if you think hard.
Shannon thanks for THE GREAT SHOW....He's not a Westerner! so he will handle the influx well.
Polygamy in Cameroon vs in America. Cameroon is not the whole of Africa.
Someone has to say it... thank you. We can not generalise it like that
Out of 54 countries in Africa I can guarantee you that at least 45 are heavy on polygamy one way or another. It's ok to talk in general terms when the behaviour it's widespread.
Polygamy is constitutionally legal in many African countries including Kenya.
My brother, I'm in South Africa, I don't even know how many people I know with more than 2 wives. Where I'm from, it's common.
@@thirteen37rose Brother, I at one time wanted to visit South Africa 🇿🇦, but now I’m married so I don’t think it would be smart 😂💪🏾
This was an excellent breakdown
I'm Cameroonian as well and a product of polygamy so I can tell you what he is saying is 100% accurate.
Shannon on a tear. Supposed to. Salute. It’s that mindset Nganou talking about
Bruh, if my bro died leaving behind a family Id most certainly take on his family. They are my family. The way Shannon responded was intriguing. “Glad it didn’t happen in America.” If anything it’s more an indictment of the poor character and emaciated and dilapidated structure if the family in America.
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Well done!👏🏿..excellent post!
Facts
Without commandments and the law, the people suffer.
The break down of the family was intentional and is a recent occurrence.(the last generation) No one athlete speaks for an entire group of people.
Well explained champ. 👍🏿
You put it down the right way.
My great uncle had 4 wives in Biafra/Nigeria. It was a cultural sign of status for those that were doing well or a Cheif. It creates a lot of wahala when you have 12 kids and you try to split your time and resources.
Whala I haven’t heard that saying in years lol
Thats the part people in the comment sections are not mentioning. They’re painting it like it a purely cultural action but as long as it people in the equation there are going to be issues.
Unrelated question: in Nigeria, do you call the siblings of your grandparents "great aunts" and "great uncles"? Or, do you use those terms for the siblings of your great grandparents?
I ask because in the Caribbean, many of us call the siblings of our grandparents "grand aunts" and "grand uncles"; great aunts and uncles would be at the great grandparents level.
I've only heard Americans use "great aunt" and "great uncle" to refer to the siblings of their grandparents. I was wondering if Nigeria uses the same terms as the British Caribbean, and you are just choosing to use the American terms in your comment.
Just wondering. No judgment 😆
@@tracienatural2405 Grand Uncle and grand aunt is what I used when I was in Nigeria. I don't know for others.
Everything he said was to benefit the community. We are so spoiled here today that we’ve life hacked the institution & community building for the purpose of fun & self-centeredness. ..How interesting
African cultures are a extremely different, they're big differences within tribes. We are not a country
There are more similarities than there are differences among sub Saharan Africans especially when it comes to family structures and roles and responsibilities.
@@abs2rayobviously but they still sum differences 😂
Ngannou did a masterful job in explaining this 👏
What he's talking about is based on Scripture - Israelite culture went into Cameroon - Deuteronomy 25:5
Although the comments saying that Francis doesn't speak for all of Africa are correct, I can assure you he's speaking the truth for how Oromos (the largest ethnic group in East Africa) traditionally treated polygamy - not so much the part about a successful man having the responsibility to give opportunities to different communities (though an unsuccessful man is discouraged from having multiple wives), but moreso that regarding the procession for widows to be remarried (we call it Dhaalaa) and how marriage was more of a socio-economic contract where a man provides for a woman, and a woman, in turn, bears his children.
btw this also goes the other way 'round. if the wife passe and has sisters, often one of the sisters will marry the widowed husband to again "ensure the children aren't raised by a stranger". the culture is more interested in the children's well-fare and also there is an economic element. if the widowed spouse marries from the outside that means the kids' inheritance is no longer guaranteed.
At first when he said a brother would take the wife it sounded wrong
but when he explains that some random man wouldn't see the kids as his but someone in the family circle would see it as keeping the family together, it made sense to me.
Very interesting, I learned something new today, thank you gentlemen.
Imagine that there’s probably a lady that curved Francis back in the day when he was working the mines and now she’s watching him on top of the world
Reality can often be unpleasant for some 🤷🏿♂️
African women, for the most part, don't really curve men that work hard regardless of their profession, looks or social status. That's a western thing.
@@oldmanjesus9855 Ehhh. Even in the West wmn don't leave a hard working man WITH a purpose and plan.
@@Mdmeskywlkr007that's not true, you got women saying they don't want a 9-5 dude they want a six figure earner or a scammer. Women curve nerds with IT jobs all the time
@@alfordelliott6943 That's just social media. Outside of Social Media, they're out there.
It kills me how people disassociate from what they claim to believe in-the concept of taking a brother’s wife is also in the Bible…. I do appreciate how Francis explained that though
Even as a Christian, something being in the bible doesnt automatically make it worth doing. Alot of it has nuance and is about separating the culture of Jews from your relationship with God. Exactly like how Jesus pointed out.
Best interview ever! Kat has always been upfront and consistent!
this is not Katt
He's a good man. Definitely husband material. And a high value man. His head is in the right place. Men like this is so rare these days. Intelligent and wise.
Nice that he also explained the reason for multiple wives and where that came from.
Dont really know the gentleman but what a brilliant explanation!! Marriage was a responsibility. As an east african am surprised by the similarities in african culture.
Huge difference between African men and African American men. Wish they learned from one another.
Agreed
Francis didn't explain the taking over of a deceased relative's wife correctly. Yes, one of the surviving brothers would be expected to take over or marry a deceased relative's wife and all. But, they do not have to consummate the marrige or live under the same roof.
Perhaps not in your culture. In many cultures they are expected to...furthermore if the deceased was wealthy, he takes over the estate as well. Many have corrupted this aspect of culture and used it as a pretext to appropriate a sibling's wealth and attimes not use it to take care of the widow and her children.
Even though African Americans, like Shannon , find these cultures strange and alien this is exactly the way their forefathers lived this is also their history and authentic original culture - visiting Africa is like cultural time travelling for the African American
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Yes, your ancestors also had slaves so do you want to copy them too? People used to live in a hut so why don’t you go live in a hut with no electricity? Not everything is worth keeping.
Polygamy in certain parts of Africa, particularly west Africa was more prevalent in the past when the societies were mostly agrarian. Men married multiple wives at a time and had numerous kids mainly to have enough hands to work the farm lands thereby producing for both selling & consumption more farm products at cheaper cost. The more wives and kids you had, the cheaper your cost of farming labor and the bigger your farm harvest and the richer you are or get but nowadays things have changed as most west African societies are no longer agrarian but industrial and digital. Most west Africans don't depend on rural farming as a source of income/survival and that have made Polygamy less useful and very much unattractive to today's young Africans. Polygamy was mostly out of necessity and not choice in the Africa of old🙂
Focus on your goals. Get it. Men can produce kids at 80, so he got plenty of time. Live your life. Hopefully, Cameroon economy is better so that women can live independently and take care of themselves.
This is a typical western mindset. That's exactly y African countries should reject the west. Brainwashing women to be independent.
Men got time? They usually pass away before women.
Also, Google science research, men older than 60 years old produce a higher number of children with autism and drepanocytose.
The problem with the world is people like you who think having children to fill your ego just like the fool in this video. The families that live the good life came from parents who taught about their children and brought them into this world at the right time and for the right reasons. Everyone else experiencing poverty and suffering can blame the selfishness of their parents.
Having children should be regulated. It should be based on credit on how fit you are mentally, physically, and financially the same way adoption is regulated.
Good people regulate themselves and only have children when they meet certain criteria
Shannon, say the Country Cameroon. Not Africa. Respect his country as you would want for yourself too USA
man francis is a force to be reckonened with. this man is a genius very insightful, very deep, hope he continues on his journey as the baddest man on the planet! great interview Shannon you ask the realest questions and create such an opened space we appreciate that
Love, Strenght, Blessings in Abundance!
Interesting 🤔 and helpful insight. Thanks 🙏🏻
Polygamy is not about having f*ck buddies its about dedication, care and support for your wives. The man must be hard working and financially capable to take care of his women and give them their needs under the unification of marriage. Its not a game! And if done right can be blissful for the women and the man.
It's never blissful. The female ego can never be satisfied under such an arrangement. Such a man would ultimately have to rule with an iron fist.
@@candorsspot2775have you been in one? If not your opinion is not valid! Stay with what you believe in and we will keep what we believe
@@prosperitylife5344 Are you in one? If so how long?
Polygamy??? lol, you will be lucky if you can get one women for 2 years. Women are no fools.
@candorsspot2775 in South African culture, the wives have their own houses and the husband has his own house...the wives normally meet at the husband's house & sometimes the man would take all the kids to spend time with them without the wives
Taking on your brothers wife and the kids for the sake of the kids is noble.....but wild at the same time 😂
It's all about duty and responsibility in West Africa
It's even more wild for the kid to have stepfather that the mother chose.
😂😂
It's actually biblical, believe it or not. Genesis 38:6-8. Deuteronomy 25:5-6
It's In The Bible ,Much of "African " tradition" is found in the Bible and was practiced Thoudands of years before the culture showed up remixed.
Francis is explaining the culture of the Hebrew Israelites. This man is stronger than people know or think.
Man is talking about culture from Cameroon and west Africa but your narrow brain had to say culture from Hebrew Israelites 😂😂😂😂
Hebrew Israelites? Man foh 😂
The thing he talks about marrying from your vicinity is true. Ghanaians are fond of setting their kids up with successful people. If you get money they don't mind you dating in their family and finally marrying them 😂. Nice interview
Extremely insightful
so nice hearing about such different culture , its refreshing
Thank you for explaining the African culture
I watched a documentaries on husband's with multiple wives, one was Arab another African. Those we're the funniest docs I'd ever seen. The Arab wives were going in on the husband manhood, and the African husband said, one of his wives asked who did he love the most? He said, he only loved his mom the most.
This was so good to hear. 🙏🏽
I think some American men need to have conversations with their Grandmother's and female elders. They may be surprised about the mindset those Women had entering into marriage , especially before the 70's.
Katt is vibrating in TRUTH(97%)😂!
And this host thought polygamy in Africa was all fun and games. 😂
We need more discussions on Wife inheritance in the community. I don’t hear many people talk about it although I know it is practiced
I just learned a lot
Ngannou dropping gems, secrets and bombs
This is great!
Polygamy is not everywhere in Africa
I dudonun'tut gugayvuvi e bubyusushæš ebuboyutut yækoyurut tuthæšayrutdud wæksorutluldud kutyulultutyuruti
Polygyny has always been about structure and responsibility for me. So I stand firm on my decision to move forward on polygyny
Ngannou is exceptionally smart. I cant believe I never listened to him talk outside of MMA
He speaking the Book
Awesome insight!
That's biblical the israelite brother has to take care the widow.
😂😂😂😂 shanon sharpe was having a cultural shock
Very eloquently explained