Joey Torres Won't Comment on Mexican Mafia Founder Being Croatian: I Want to Stay Alive (Part 7)
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Joey: " I'll fight everyone in this room "
Interviewer: " me too"
Lmao
😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Get this dude off interviews
In other words that room is a sausage fest! 🤣🤣🤣
@@mariozapata7847 brah when he told joey to stop crying i was like dam 😳let the dude vent
Gangster is somebody who just worked 13 hours drove forty minutes home and is going to do the same thing in nine hours.
The workin man's the tough guy-lorenzo,A bronx tale
That's a dad
na man , gangster is something else
In my vocabulaire its called a slave. Viva la revolution!
I it ain’t there are a lot of people that do that. I couldn’t kill or rob anyone or risk going to prison for any amount of time. I’m not gangster at all
It’s common knowledge that Peg Leg Morgan was Croatian. Many of the street gangs in LA started off by being mixed gangs cause the Mexican neighborhoods were integrated by Asian and European immigrants. Mike Kudo who was one of the early members was Japanese. They’ve never been ashamed to say that.
His parents were Croation. Joe was born and raised in LA
He wasn't the founder huero buff was. He passed away after celebrating his release from prison and taking down 20 shots of tequila in one hour.
@@NELA213 I know Peg Leg wasn’t the founder. I’m just saying it wasn’t uncommon for members from other races were in the Mexican Mafia and they never lied about it. Some were even half black like Cheneno.
Mexicans are a mixed race
@@dariog36th no half blacks lol
Joe Morgan is not the founder of the Mexican mafia
He is a co founder . That is official.
The Mexican Mafia was around long before Joe Morgan became a member. He was considered the “Godfather” of the Eme because of his drug connections and the fact he was in his late 30s early 40s when he was made. Luis Hero Buff was the founder of the Mexican Mafia at Duel Vocational Institute in Tracy California.
He's not either a founder or co- founder. Go read the history. As a matter of fact he didn't get in till he was in his 30s.... he is an OG, but not the leader. They had a table that voted. He did have respect and juice and was at the top when he died, but there were other members that were just as powerful but laid low.
@@robertaceves5248 Point is a White man was running the show🤦🏾♂️
Shows how much this guy knows your right it was founded before Joe became a member.
*Cavario always finds a way to make it about himself!*
Stone cold narcissist 😂
Vlad Jr.
Yeah hes a straight up clown, he was told joey “cut it out we gangsters”, when joey teared up. Cavario is a POS
Who u think hired him
Like father like son
1:45 “I’ll fight everyone in this room”
Cavario: *as fast as he can interrupt to give himself some type of street cred* “me too”
LMAO that shit was hilarious
He’s so cringey
that dude is wack ass interviewer. Always making about himself
bro cavario sucks at interviews
This guy is the worst interviewer ever.
In the 1950's East LA/Boyle Heights was very mixed. Mexican, Jewish, Japanese, Russians & Italians. Joe "Peg Leg" Morgan grew up in this time period. He put in work with the Mexicans and they accepted him as one of their own.
Same with Mike Kudo who was Japanese but was childhood friends with Huero Buff. They were both from Hawaiian Gardens.
Peg leg didnt found the Mexican Mafia, He was second generation.
Luis "Huero Buff" Flores was the Main founder.
as well as
Cheyenne
and
Mundo Mendoza
@@UncleBensRice... mundo was not a founder. He was made in 1970 where as the M started in 57
@@vatoloco8482 Then Peg leg isnt a founder either. since he wasnt made until after as well.
Huero buff from Hawaiian Gardens was the founder it wasnt peg leg
J: "I'll fight everyone in this room." 🐯
C: "Me too." 🐱
Vlad: "This is why I'm not there!" 🕊️
Cavario is a 🐱, he was tellin joey to “cut it out, we gangsters” in the last clip where joey teared up
Joe did not create it he was a member, it’s public record he was a member then became a leader
It was Luis "Huero Buff" Flores from Hawaiian Gardens who started it. Joe Morgan was part of the first members.
@@20pastfour he wasn’t part of the original 13
@@20pastfour Huero Buff was the founder and his best friend Mike Kudo who was Japanese and also from Hawaiian Gardens was the one who wrote the rules of conduct.
Joe Morgan was second wave member
😂. One of yall is right and one of yall is wrong. But both of u would get a DP speakin on Eme 😮
I'm gangster 😂 I'm setting my alarm for 3:00am so I can eat my chicken wings 🍗 gracias! Dispensa on the tira!
I’m still confused 🥴
Chicanos will accept anyone into the culture who shows heart, shows love, and shows respect.
Wrong...no way they would accept a black person... even tho they show love and heart of a lion
@@vincegreene6851 😂 go cry about it 🤡
@@vincegreene6851 I said Chicanos, not the eme. They won't even accept a salvadoreño
@Vince Greene why are you blacks so obsessed with this topic and playing victim lol there's actually been numerous blacks part of LA eme and sureno gangs
@@vincegreene6851😂😂😂😂
that "me too" by the interviewer when talking about fighting everyone in the room solidifies his sorry interviewing goes right along with his other comment not letting joey cry smh vlad gettem out
😂 😂 so glad other people notice the “ me too” he’s terrible. When joey cried and he told him “ cut that shit, we gangsters “ interviewer is a goofy
Yeah that was corny.
Cavario always tryin to put himself over
@@Tonemalone.. bro what a shame, a great interview that could've been even greater with the right person conducting it
@@demetriosnikoloudakis4842 its giving hella vlad vibes ay 😂
You can’t convince me that this man didn’t either steal someone’s body or head.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
I think I could convince you
😂😂😂
🥊
Man when I was a child the OG black and Mexican gangstas use to always drop knowledge on me. Made sure I learned how to show respect to people.
My cousin just got out after 35 years and my little cousin tried to get em to do a podcast but he aint having it
LIES!!!....ONE OFTHE BIGGEST LIE TOLD..IS ABOUT A MADE UP COUSIN....CUT IT OUT!!!
Ain’t It Vlad though
bro was caught when i was born lol
Not everyone does victory laps after release.
@@busterhikney6936 nah cuzzo just said he ain’t going on a lil podcast with 3 monthly listeners
He looks like something from a parody movie 😂
It’s the glasses and big mustache plus his voice seems like he could be the VA for a character in some kinda comedic cartoon or adult cartoon
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂
Huero buff de Hawaiian gardens, a mexican is the founder of la eme/ mm...joe came later on...
Vlad tv didn’t do their homework lol. It was founded in 1957. Joe Morgan joined it 10 years later in the 1960’s. He is not part of the first generation founders with Huero Buff, Big D, Cheyenne, Kilroy, etc.
I'm pretty sure Luis "Huero Buff created the Mexican Mafia in 1957 ..Peg Leg was a high ranking member with a ton respect from his carnales...
This guy got all fucked up , Joey Torres is a rat 🐀 just look it up
Donald Garcia was one of the founders he was mexican. These titles on some of these videos drive me crazy 🤣🤣🤣
Sum of these ppl be lying bro if you know the truth you know the truth 🤫
Huero Buff came up with the idea and was the first one to get it rolling. There were a handful of first wave members. That was in ‘57 and in ‘63 a lot of them including Huero Buff and Cheyenne Cadena were in San Quentin and they re-established the rules and implemented the death oath
@@ConnorHolbrook419 I put my money on AB 🕶
Joey- I’ll fight everybody in this mfing room
Interviewer- ME 2
🤭😂
I am gangster to😂
Cavario 😂😂😂
Narcissist on this channel, terrible interviews
Luis “huero buff” flores founded the MM not joe morgans
Thank you homie
Vlad tv didn’t do their homework lol. It was founded in 1957. Joe Morgan joined it 10 years later in the 1960’s. He is not part of the first generation founders with Huero Buff, Big D, Cheyenne, Kilroy, etc.
@@marcorios6806 you actually can't blame vlad for this, blame the bozo interviewing him, cavario
Facts… 💯💯
He was one of them
Joey... I love you man,your interviews taught me a lot,but what you just said going to the end of this specific interview was exactly the truth...we aren't born bad,and now you're showing the way to becoming better,and I appreciate that my guy.
Shut up hyna 😂 this 18th st pres that jus dodged life. He can’t curl his fingers even if he wanted to 😂😂
@@djejrjrj who's hyna? Are you talking to me?
@@djejrjrj is hyna your mother and you're telling her to shut up,but accidentally texted me it?
This is wrong info
I'm from Croatia and i can tell you,don't be so surprised..you have ghettos and projects..our whole country is a ghetto! You have "streets wars" which are a choice,we had an actuall war on our own soil and we were all raised tough!
The real founder is huero buff from Hawaiian gardens
Cavario trying so so so hard to try and convince everyone aswell as himself that he is a street dude.
Love to Mexicans from Croatia ❤❤❤
🇽🇰 Kosova is Serbia ! 🇷🇸 💥👋
@@509HeavydropKosovo is Albanian
The barrio doesn't look at race...it looks at yr heart..
Amen
This dude looks like the Lorax 😂
Like a Mexican danny devito
@@xaviersantini8176 he's puerto rican
“Standing over your bed at 3am eating chicken wings our your fridge is gangster “ whatt
Yeah wtf is he talking about??😂
😅😅he was just ramblin right there
Yeah that confused me 😂
He meant being free in ur own room eating wut u wanna eat at anytime u wanna eat! Now thats Gangster!
@@joeserrano9317 well he should have said that 😂
I have a few uncle's that got out after doing serious time they changed their lives started a legitimate business and became apart of regular society even my lady got outta prison after a few yrs and she changed her life helps run a big trucking company as an executive manager. So people can change
Dont really care. I care more about people that never went to prison and did the right their whole lives.
My brother in law is Croatian and Serbian, dude is a proper gentleman and a family man, but push come to shove he a real one.
Croats, and Serbs can be cold blooded killers.
That's like plus and minus, there is a huge difference between Croatians which are catholic with Latin letter(that's why Morgan was in Mex mafia, common catholic religion) while Serbians are orthodox with cirilic letter.Croatians are culturally west oriented while Serbs are more Russian oriented but both nations are very tough people!!
@@dado380because croatians are ashamed of their own culture, they will act superior to Bosnians and Serbs yet deep down they know they’re just like every other Eastern European
@@dado380Well both tribes are Slavic mixed with Greeks and Latins. Serbs have more of a Greek influence knowing Greeks converted the Slavs to Orthodox Christianity and they incorporated Cyrillic. While Italians introduced Catholicism to Croatians (or used to be one church till 1000 AD) and Croatians use Latin script. Though Serbs use Latin (Italian/Roman) based script and Cyrillic (Greek-based) script. So Greeks influenced one side while the Italians/Romans influenced the other. Russians influenced both sides when we split from 'em like 1600 years ago or so - when there was no Russia it was more Slavic based.
@@dado380Croatians are not west oriented. Religion has nothing to do with it. Genetically Croatian and Russians are much more similar than Russians and Serbs.
joe morgan did not create mm it was in excistence for over a decade before he joined the ranks he prob was their most influental member tho
He wearin’ the Bill Belichick sweater
Fun fact.....Bill Belichick(Beličić) is also Croatian 🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷 😁
Joe Morgan joined M about 10 years later. He was not part of the founding members
Cavario gotta remind everyone he’s legit
Yeah I guess he feels like he don't get his just due in terms of recognition for what he did in the streets so he always gotta remind everyone that he got busy too lol
@@JohnDoe113 aye gotta let them know he ain’t no pussy boy he just a changed man 😂
Look . I went in the system at 15 . Didn’t get it together until 29. Iam a plumber now and have a great life . Being a tough guy isn’t being a hard ass. It’s being respectful and hard working for your family. Anyone can kill or rob and steal . The hard part is working your way to success
People that blame society are never going to be self accountable
He also said he has to live with himself everyday knowing what he did but is working on doing positive with himself from here on out if you can’t respect that idk what to tell u 🫡 you don’t know his life personally who are you to judge?
@@chrismartinez8285 What do u mean who is he to judge? Thats a stupid question. If he has a brain enough to not kill, he can judge Joey. If someone is smart enough not to do something really bad, he can judge those that do. It's always stupid people saying Who are u to judge because they dont want to be held accountable. Props to Joey for reforming himself, but that aint gonna bring someone's son, brother, father, cousin, etc back, so he shouldnt act like his reform makes up for his really bad actions.
I agree with you guys im all about accountability and transparency but knowing people who work in the juvi system and also having an interest in adult psychology, its hard to deny that their childhood did not affect their outcome. Its true alot of these kids lacked something and they found it with other dysfunctional individuals.
I wanna stay healthy, I wanna stay alive. I can't comment....smart man. I wish move people would do that about topics.
Luis " Huero Buff" Flores was the founder of the Mexican Mafia.
Joe grew up in a time where there was still "Anti Croatian" or "Anti-Slavic" sentiment and grew up in a mixed Mexican-Croatian neighborhood. Maybe thanks to his friend Cheyenne or his respect for Mexicans he became big in La Eme, but he was also an important key for business with other prison gangs or even the LA mob. He also helped Croatian political refugees in the US.
Yeah the guy was white, but other than that he was important for business
Actually the one emero with more connections to the L.a. mob was champ reynoso
@@joeb5678 yes he was a high ranking member, but there isn't much information about La Eme and their connection to the LA mob
@@zaza7170 mundo talked about it but n his show. The la guys wanted to hit some guys so they gave the contract to champ but according to mundo he wasn’t going to do it and instead was thinking of hitting Jimmy frattiano who have the hit to champ in the first place lol
@@joeb5678 Does Mundo have a current show again? I only remember the last time I watched him was 4 years ago, many videos were just deleted lmao
@@zaza7170 nope not that I know of
he's not the founder. it had already existed, he wasnt even in the first recruitment. he was in the second.
Watching grown men be a part of something that strikes fear in them but is the only way they feel comfortable in life, is the fruitiest thing I've ever heard. But I'm sure y'all respect men who need other men to feel tough. Real super duper goofy shit
Couldn't you say the same for square guys in politics or military??? Even whistleblowers have been "deleted"..
You know what's more fruitier . People like you who talk about an organization behind closed doors . You wouldn't go up to a made man and say those exact words to his face . Cuz you're fruity 😅
The problem is the Mexican Mafia has been well-known to murder people inside prisons and on the streets if you cross them. It's also well-documented that they murdered a bunch people who worked on the film, American Me, due to portrays of the gang they didn't exactly like or approve. Why go out of your way to mess with that when you can pass on it?
Of alk things thats the fruitiest??? Nah u just hating re think that statement
@dtrell2897 Absolutely. I'm speaking in absolutes. No exceptions if it fits. That's for lames and meat riders. I only state facts. So yeah 💯 percent agree
Because he is raised in it. I am Mexican raised in the Black community. So my mentality is going to be a bit different if I was from the Barrio. He has the Mexican mentality and is part of the culture.
It wasnt just one specific founder it was a group of individuals who founded the Eme and those individuals were mexican hence the name MEXICAN MAFIA. Another thing its not just like this one white dude popped up out of nowhere and said im gonna run this. Of course not, he was raised in a mexican neighborhood was from one of the oldest mexican neighborshoods in east LA. So theres that
Huero Buff was the creator of the EME
What life is cavario talking about? He’s not comparing his life to this guy as if they are the same.
Ironic. He says robbing a liquor store aint gangster.. he was convicted in 79 for murdering a gas station attendant for 300 bucks. But most people won't do their homework.
That's why he said it..robbing liquor doesn make u a gangster..advice of a wise man
It went right over your head, you took it as face value.
First off, he was a kid at the time and now he is an adult, he learned his lesson hence the reason for the interview.
Secondly, technically, those $300 was his money. The guy, who happened to be his manager was robbing him and he confronted him regarding the money that was owed, it got out of hand and the manager wound up dead... According to him it was really self-defense and being that he already did 40 years for the crime, I dont see any reason for him to lie..m
THIS LAME IS FROM 18 THE FIRST HOOD TO LET HOMOSEXUALS IN. GO FIGURE RIGHT
@@tariqalfudi1 that’s bs do some research. Dude wasn’t his manager.
If he was or wasn't...He might of been Croatian but Mexican in his heart
That's stupid.
He didn’t start anything. The organization was around a decade before he got in
Did he have a heart transplant on the black market or something?
@@TDashem Ya right around where I got your mom's working out of 🤡
@@gp977 Hey I may be a 🤡, but i’m a gangster in my corazon. 🫶🏾
Joe Pegleg Morgan (Joseph Međugorac) not Slavic but Croatian same as Mike Gillich the godfather of Dixie Mob! If you visit Croatia you will meet many similar talented and creative people 😀
He like a gangster Super Mario foo
Super Barrio 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Joey, Mario and Luigi...the Mario Brothers
😂🤣🤣🤣😭
Pegleg wasn't a founder. And I dont understand why Joey didnt atleast correct him in that.
When people don't want to answer it's because it's true😂
"It might be or might not" "no comment" "I can't talk about this because i wanna be alive" ☠️
The mafia started before the white guy so no it’s wrong but he’s an og in the mafia so makes sense why he didn’t wanna say nun
It’s not because it’s true but because he’s not allowed to comment on mafia business
I can not take this cavario serious after him n benzino were caught getting jiggy 😩
Joe Morgan was not Croation, his parents were. Joe was born and raised in Los Angeles, probably never visited Croatia
@@astrozoo was he was adopted? So two full bloodline pitbulls could birth a German shepherd? I'm just curious. His parents were so what that make him? I'm curious. U seem to have alot of knowledge on him
Vlad if you read comments please reach out to boxer ex nuestra familia member he has a good story if you got this story on here get his story on it maybe you vlad interview him cause this guy just not doing it right
Man boxer had them authorities mesmerized when he broke down how they work inside n out but the way he said it all sophisticated with no college degree. He spilled the beans.
Isnt he still locked up ?
@GabrielSanchez-br4hi that video! Man he was very articulate and smart as shit
@@GabrielSanchez-br4hithat’s a different boxer
@@johnye2210no, the one he’s referring to has a TH-cam channel
Cavario is the master of talking for 2 minutes with big fancy words, without saying a single thing of substance
How do you trust the word of someone that thinks Joe Morgan was the founder of Eme? He was nowhere near being the founder I’m sure he lived it but cmon man lol
Huero buff was the founder.
I forgot what year, but the aryan brotherhood had a Native American member named crazy horse or horse. Horse was a nice guy and I spoke to him quite often I remember I asked him When did the AB become so diverse because your skin color looks just like mine. He just laughed about it, but then I started seeing him hang out more with the brown. I eventually left prison and then a few years later I heard he was now horse from the Mexican mafia.
Martin Crazy Horse Lewis from Clovis/Fresno.
Caballo from Eme
If you know anything about native people back in the 70s 80s from the white population, they are very racist toward the blacks excellent people to fight your war
1:51 That "Me too" was a must after that statement 💯
lol he tried to act like he ain’t hear it
Cavario gotta relax......
Joe Morgan did not start the Black hand. Güero Buff from Hawaiian Gardens along with Big D other carnales. It's all over TH-cam man
Every Mexican from the hood in California knows that Peg Leg Morgan was a white guy of Croatian descent. The movie American Me put everyone on notice. And although American Me has a lot of fiction they got that part right. And with the internet everyone has seen his picture and he has a white name. You are not shocking anyone in the hood with that news.
Gangster is eating chicken wings in ur room at 3am talking to urself??????..... tony Montana aint got sh** on me then
Joe was born in east LA. He is of Croatian decent. He wasn’t born in Croatia
Bernie Lomax done came back from the dead, yet again 😉
😂
😂😂
Soon as he said that’s my boy I changed this bs
Joe Morgan is Croatian. The secret is? Smh
Spoken from a man who has matured in life. I hear everything ur saying brother. I hope ur enjoying ur life. Keep spitting ur motivation and help ppl mature sooner.
he is pure evil lol, foh
Shout out my boricuas 🇵🇷
First of all there's pictures from the 1800$ of gangs with their guns people don't change just the clothes do crime rate is as high as high as ever homicides in mass shootings every weekend so tell me what makes you old guys tougher
I didn't get the eating chicken over yo bed saying what up foo is being gangsta
😂🤷🏽♂️
Joey Torres comes from an era where there were rules, morals, respect and gangster.
Morals by selling drugs and killing people
Joe Morgan did not create the mafia guero buff was the founder from Hawaiian gardens
Dope interview
Crack somebody get this man the definition of a gangster
Explain the definition
Joe Morgan was in his 40’s when got into the eme. He was not a founding member.
You right Luis "Huero Buff "Flores, Rudy "Cheyenne" Cadena and a few others were the founders ..Morgan was a little later and I thought 18th Street was started in the 40s how can Joey Torres be founder when he was born in the 60s?
@@highpowerx4554 this dude Joey is a habitual liar 18st started in the 60’s this dude is not no founder. This dude Al’s says cmc east was a good yard for the sureños when that’s never been a thing.
@@highpowerx4554 wasn’t Jap Mike Kudo a founding member? I know he wrote part of the rules of conduct.
@@dariog36th ..yes sir along with Donald"Big D" Garcia and Kilroy
@@dariog36thMike Kudo was not a founding member, but he joined very early on in 1962 I think. It was founded in 1957, disbanded after some time after that and then when they regrouped in 1961, they added some new members and some new cofounders. Kilroy for example, was not an original co founder in 1957. He is an honorary co founder from 1961.
This interviewer man....boing!...boing!...boing!...Bunny trail city.
Man this is the last one I watch I keep giving this guy a chance cuz I'm interested in what Mr Torres has to say but every interview seems like it's about the interviewer
8:22 John Wick said "Hold my beer..."
This guy lost me when he said joe was one of the founders that's how I know he don't know nothing. Everyone on the streets know that Joe didn't join until the 60s after it had already been around at least 10 years.
First minute: … the Rapist “Oh Yeah that’s my BOY!” 😢 Selective Politics… Convict my ass.
At some point Vlad will interview Yakuza and Triads
I told you 1st
*Ex members
@@jermainejustingalant1214 yes indeed
late
They already got their own channel, China Town Gang Stories or something. Its a couple fire interviews on there w/ Triads from NY that were going back and forth. Dude was talking about seeing folk hang themselves in gambling dens for being in too deep, or gambling 3-4 days in a row, no shower, no food. Dudes losing 3-4 businesses and buildings, plus wild shootout and other street crime stories.
@@nobodyexceptme7794 let's check it out
Thx bruh
These carnales ain't in Hip Hop or the Movies. These vatos are the REAL deal. Vlad is walking a slippery slope.
There wasn't ONE founder of La Eme. There was a group that were the founders.
President of 18st ? We need more details of all these founding memeber President talk
Votes? 😂
These are my opps. Bro has the keys its well known in the jungles
My family is from
Croatia
Prison sucks I’ve done years in solitary as well
You don't look Croatian
buddy look like a super crip mario
That’s not protocol asking someone about an organization he shouldn’t even mention. JM was not the founder. It was around a decade before he ever went to prison.
Joe wasn’t the founder nor was he an original member but he was in prison for 10 years before the Mexican mafia was formed. By the time kids in Tracy formed the eme joe Morgan was already 10 years their senior.
He identify as a Mexican 😂
Joe Morgan didn’t start La EME 💯
Good answer lol
This interview is very much needed in hip-hop. I salute you and I’m proud.
That's not gangster either 😮smh... Gangster is when a man shows shows a young man how to become a man.. with morals principles respect integrity and love.
Nah that’s just being a man
Morgan was not the founder of the Mexican Mafia. The interviewer is dumb for saying that and so is Joey for going along with him. 🤦🏻
I think he's seen as an ex godfather of the Mexican mafia - NOT a founder aka he was partially responsible but no solely responsible.
What about benjamin Topo peters one of joe morgans side kicks,La eme originals the veterans from back in the day.
I see why Vlad chose this guy to do the interview, he gotta interject himself in 'Me Too"
Eating chicken wings over your bed talkin to yourself is gangster?
I mean its cool I guess
Wasnt the founder of 18st a Samoan?
no
This interviewer talked more than Joey. Talks too much
I like this guy. He's speaking his truth
When he said "you can ONLY be as bad as you wanna be" I SWEAR I FELT THAT IN MY SOUL!! S/O 2 This Brother Cause If You Know, You KNOW!
@@branikincrain3532 for real! 💯
Cavario trying to get this man killed