Just so you know From what i've seen in a Multiplayer playthrough is that A Normal Screamer has a chance to spawn a Feral or Rad screamer, This means That Each screamer CAN Possibly Spawn Either or but can only scream x3 TImes This means that If you're building a screamer farm base you will need to remember they only scream 3x for z's to spawn If a screamer is left alive after the 3rd scream they will not spawn Anymore Zombies Until another screamer Spawns and screams 3x again This means That if a screamer see's you They scream 3x And the type of screamer Dpeends on person in party with Highest GS. Also Gunfire from Guns like The M60 Auto shotgun Desert vulture SMG can also Trigger Screamer spawns Even if they're silenced, Explosives also Trigger screamer spawns as well
i got a question here. If zombie block damage is set to 300% and blood moon damage is set to 300% does that stack? So is it 3x damage all around regardless of bloodmoon or not or 6x damage because 300% + 300% or 9x damage because 300% bloodmoon multiplied by the standard 300%? I also posted this on Jawoodle to see if anyone knows.
@@ZZ-qn1bo Yes it does, I wouldn't recommend anything Above 150 Your base will be in absolute shambles if you go anything Above 200 on both. 300 is overkill But From what i read in the XML's This is how Gamestage works / Starting spawn stage is in this first entry. // It will spawn up to 300 zombies, but only 8 can be alive at any one time due to performance reasons. // Zombies will be spawned from the ZombiesNight spawn group defined in entitygroups.xml // (Optional) The duration of this stage is 1 game hour, after that game hour the next spawn will start OR the spawning will complete // if there are no more spawns. // (Optional) Interval is a delay in seconds between the end of a spawn group and the next one // If we have a use for it this could also trigger a stinger sound. // After 300 zombies have been killed this defines a kind of "station keeping" mode // where there will be one zombie sent to harass the players until sunrise. maxAlive is now per player, not per party another words GS now in 1.0 is calculated by Player ( in Multiplayer) not by Party [ gameStage = ( playerLevel + daysSurvived ) * difficultyBonus
@@ZZ-qn1bo Note the Last Bit of information from the gamestage XML That is the Most Important part of the information i gave you from the GS XML This is why i say don't go above 200 Block damage And HN Damage
Just letting you know you're my favorite 7days content. Informative, straight to the point, excellent diction. I've learned a LOT from your videos, and my bases are noticeably better since.
I love that u have started showing us the building of the base . And it’s so helpful knowing the blocks . Please keep introducing us to new blocks . This is the only way I figure out how to use some of these ., I’ve been stuck for years on just the cube ans the scaffolding …and ocassionally if I was feeling adventurous I’d throw in a wedge tip 😮😂😂😂😂
Absolutely! With all the requests in recent videos, we've tried to strike a better balance between the concepts and how to build. Definitely happy to get more people using shapes beyond the cube!
Love the Screamer Farm! Never really considered it before, so this is pretty clever. Thank you too for explaining all the blocks, and for providing us with a lootbag mod too. I don't use mods but I'm sure it'll be super helpful for those who do use them. ♡
Don't see the need for the farm. I played the console since launch not long ago and have everything maxed out. the extra xp is extra xp for the record? Anyway unless i was a TH-cam streamer the game would not be end game for me. BUT I not. so Im experimenting with these other survival games HumanitZ and Vein. one of them reminds me of Dysmantle...and if you have not played Dysmantle you are missing out hardcore. my horse ate my chicken roosty
Even me who has played the game over 350h+ I am still amazed how the AI works and how you can build stuff to prevent zombies getting to you etc. I myself mostly play casually and find a church with a wall. Reinforce it, make it double the thickness. Take away all the doors and leave one entrance point for melee killing and shooting with shotgun. IF else fails, I bail to my tower that is just a basic tower that has 3 rows of ladders allowing them to come up and fall down because of *Railing Diagonal* shape. So far so good for day 35 without dying for 35h of gameplay haha. Your videos help me give an idea how to build things better and be properly prepared for horde nights
Your design is certainly classic. So if it works, then it works! There are definitely ways to exploit the AI, and my videos will give you a variety of strategies to slightly take advantage or majorly cheese them and everything in-between. Happy to provide help!
@@pseudoposse Thank you! I keep an eye to see if I find something suitable to build and try myself and maybe tune it as your videos are really good. You also got a sub from me! I am more used to classic designs and not rly to something extreme but it is always nice to see some cool tips and tricks
@@LWM-Official-Music-Channel Happy to hear that! That is one of my main goals is to inspire others to take my designs and tweak them to their liking. I'll definitely have to make more classic design type bases like the we did in our previous video.
This base is a bit more end game-ish but I made it big and sprawling on purpose to separate each component. You could easily build a much shorter base, that is more compact and have something viable in the early/mid game.
Using the truck horn (or less so with earlier vehicles) is a great option for a manual heat boost to speed it up, or, much weaker, you can spam open/close a container or metal door. Alternatively on passive you can just make a Very well lit room…
I'd love to see a video on how to get an early game wasteland base set up or a base idea that works inside a t5 POI for that juicy extra gamestage + loot :). Thanks for the informative videos
Great build. I probably won’t personally use it because the learn by magazine bs makes power leveling less important (and I get enough screamers as is). But I really appreciate the way you laid out the video and the aesthetics of your build.
I dunno, to adjust to this new 'screamers' on day 2, lol, I jumped to get a horde base asap...just put a 'jawoodle killing corridor' with the fighting position 15blocks high, so they fall past their Rage Mode...one of the grain elevator POIs work nicely....when the base calls in a screamer, head up to the fighting box and wait....stun baton and repulsor mode along with a good ol 'pneumatic sledgie...watch the ragdolling and profit! lol
Aside from the accent, Taco turned into my wife for a minute! That was hilarious! Thank you for leaving it in the video. Good job on this Eerie. Interesting concept. Are there any blocks that you're aware of that zombies will only path over in one direction? Maybe a door or special shape? That could be very useful in a (extra cheesy) base.
Haha some things are just universal 🤣. I guess it depends what you mean by pathing over in a single direction. I suppose a zombie dropping shape could fit that definition as they fall before they could move another way.
Have you done any underwater bases for 1.0 yet? I've tried some and here is what I have so far... 1. I can not break the water plane when building in the coastal/edge of map water. So you can't have a base with connecting rooms above and below the waterline. But the water is deep so you can have a multi-level base underwater. 2. POI waters like the new bridges over the lakes you can build below and above. A bit shallow so not much for underwater. 3. Moonpools work. A hole in the floor to enter the base. 4. Bulletproof Glass (Plates) give you an air pocket and place to stand when removing the water. (Stand in the window while filling the room with building blocks) 5. When working on the coastal base, I needed to have a ceiling two blocks thick to remove the water. Once the water is removed only one layer is required. So place building blocks on top of the roof then remove them once completed. (Strange one, this one) 6. Zombies will use stairs/ramps to enter the base, but if they fall or get knocked off they will rage swim instead of returning to the path. Number 6 is where I'm stuck. Coming up with a way to fight the horde.
I haven't done a water base yet in 1.0 but in my testing I did for our 80+ beginner tips video, it seems like it is much the same as alpha 21. As for your issue, zombies will path under water if you give them one. If you give them an underwater path, they will swim along that path rather than swimming through the water so they'll actually travel further then necessary. Point being, you can make a path underwater leading back to your path above water and they'll go back up. Even a simple ladder from lakebed up toward your main path will suffice.
Psuedo, I don't know if this is true in Vers 1, but in the Alpha, screamers did have a limit on the number screams they could use to call in other zombies. I think it was 3 screams PER Screamer. They can call in other screamers who also will have 3 screams to call in Zombies. This MAY have changed. I don't know.
I think they don´t changed that cause i was bored some days ago and watched a screamer horde trying to take down the navezgane general hospital and they stopped calling in for help even after i killed her friends.
I don't know about the 3 screams per screamer thing, but I can confirm that there is a chance a screamer will call in another screamer, as I got gang raped in my latest solo playthrough because a screamer called in another screamer, who called in another screamer. I did manage to kill several zombies before succumbing, though. Oh, that was day 8, on normal settings, btw.
It’s still the same, I tried farming them and nope, 3 screams and she was empty, BUT her screams attract random zombies as well, so she can still bring in the roaming zombies or make a wandering hoard pivot towards your position
Yeah eventually her screams stop bringing in zombies. But after a bit of time, I did get some more zombies come in. Not sure if it resets after awhile but didn't have to wait more than a couple ingame hours. That being said, I think the trap it still useful as it allows her to get off all her screams before she dies prematurely.
Love the tutorial and all the 7 days content you've been making! Actually building this right now, but I wanted to leave a comment that's somewhat of a critique.. When doing your step-by-step tutorial part of the video, I would personally like to see the whole "but I changed this after some testing" parts (9:40 for example). You originally advised we used the slope plate corner filled, and as someone who pauses and does each step, seeing you change the block 10 seconds later meant I had to break all of those to replace with the window plate circle empty. I feel like it would be smoother if you had just originally told us to use the block you intended to use rather than show us what you initially used then what you changed it to.. I get this could just be a personal preference and it is your videos after all, but I'm sure some others would agree. Either way can't wait to test this out after building! Thanks for the tutorial
@@pseudoposse Thanks for the response! Once again it's your channel so whatever you see fit for your videos and audience goes obviously. Just wanted to give my personal opinion while watching, otherwise the videos recently have been 10/10 :)
We've already implemented home base defences utilising the 15 block range and shape types that block visibility for Screamers, this might be a fun base to build later and just *fill* with workstations 😂
Yeah I noticed hitting a limit while testing but after waiting a couple ingame hours, I saw more zombies come and I believe I was still in heat cooldown from the original screamer spawn.
funny you should say that, because iirc the burning barrels were decorative only and didn't add heat passively. which was counter-intuitive to everyone that tried it thinking it worked better than a campfire. or maybe they did add heat but they wouldn't set them on fire if they walk over burning barrels. maybe it was second one that i'm thinking about, you'd think they would set on fire but the barrels for some reason are just decorative.
This is a great concept, and I think I will give it a try. In your heat map video, you mentioned heat developes differently across chunks of the map. Would it be advantageous to find a corner where four chunks meet to spawn more screamers? Would that be possible, and is it easily found WITHOUT going into debug mode?
There might be a way to determine chunk without debug menu by some means though I haven't given it much thought. That being said, there might be the optimal placement to maximize heat spread but not sure how worth it that would be.
I was going to tell you how good this video is and the build is awesome, but..... Taco messaged me and said that if I didn't back up her claim that you have a flawed design that she would uses her particular set of skills, and she WOULD find me. Yeah, I don't f*@! with a determined Taco! -In case Taco is reading- So, uh...yeah. Design better Pseudo!
Taco definitely has skills. She's always telling me to build simple and small...so I make a compact loot bag area. Then she proceeds to ask for mods making the lootbags rain and spawns like 60 zombies lol. Classic taco :D Next time, I am over engineering just for her haha.
It would be nice to get a video explaining stability. E.g. I rarely see people building a steel block connected to bedrock and then building horizontally with a lighter block. Are there any difference if you mix horizontally and vertically blocks not connected to bedrock? How are blocks calculated that are bigger than 1m x 1m?
Mixing vertical blocks doesn't make a difference. But when mixing horizontally, that doesn't really help. In the extreme case, say you connected a wood block to a steel. By itself steel can support a bunch of mass. But the wood cannot. So even though the wood is connected to steel, if you then add more blocks totaling the horizontal mass that wood can support, it will collapse despite steel being the "anchor" point. Though steel could have supported more, wood couldn't.
is there any way to find out a chunkborder without going into debugmode? this would allow for placing the farm in the intersecting part of 4 chunks and get alot more screamers by heating up multiple chunks?
Hi Pseudo. I like your 7D2D vids very much 😊 and i learned a lot of them. I tried the thing with the non pathable parts at my base but it didnt work. I dug a Trench around my base and a wall around the trench from the outside and wanted to force the zombies with your tipp to enter the Trench at a certain Position through a gab in the wall. But they still cross it at the Position where the stairs led out of the trench. I hope u understand my Problem and can help me with it. Greetings
Sorry, not quit following the design. So you have a trench around your base, and outside of the trench is a wall? And in the wall you have a gap but not sure where the stairs are positioned or the forcefield shapes.
@@pseudoposse 😅 i knew that with my bad english i couldn't give u a good picture. I should better draw it :) but i will try to explain. So the trench around my base is about 4 Blocks deep and 8 blocks wide. But it isn't fully "open", at one corner it is blocked with a wall. My plan was that they go into the trench at the one side of the wall and have to go through the whole trench to get to the other side of that mentioned wall. At that spot are the stairs that leed out of the trench again and up to my base. Of cource the trench is filled with fenches, shotgunturrets and bladetraps ;-) so to force them this way my idea was a wall around the trench from the outside, on "ground level" so to say. But they keep on trying to break the "outside" wall at the spot where behind the stairs are in the trench and not take the open, unblocked path a bit more left of it to take the way around through the trench. So my question in the first place, is it possible to make them take the open Part through the trench and not "smash" the direct way through the wall? Or is my wohle idea impossible? I tried your idea with the Windows plate and 2 blocks space under it but they just dropped in them and smashed through the wall as mentioned. I hope u got the picture otherwise we could talk again or i would love to invite u to my Server so that u could look at it :) but many thanks for taking the time to help me. Greetings
@@HeikeKocher That makes much more sense, thank you! It sounds like you are trying to route the zombies through a large trench that ultimately leads to a set of stairs on the opposite side of the trench which then would lead to your base. The problem is if the path is too long, and the wall blocking the stairs is too weak, zombies will prefer to take a shortcut and just beat through the wall to reach the stairs. Zombies generally follow the path of least resistance. To force them along your route, you'll need to make the wall extra thick and/or you could put force field shapes around the outer wall region to prevent them from breaking through. Covering the top of the trench with forcefield shapes might also work though with the stairs below it, not sure if zombies won't still see it as a shortcut.
@@pseudopossei am glad that i could give u a better clue :) yes u are right and i already tried the thing with the forcefield shapes, which quiet well worked for most the time but it seems in the hord night they almost "ignored" them. Do they dont work then or do i have to make them wider? And how thick u would think i should build my walls at the critical spots? Thx and greetings
@@HeikeKocher During horde with greater numbers, they will definitely beat threw walls that a single zombie alone wouldn't try. Same principle applies, you want to beef up your defenses and use forcefield shapes to prevent them from reaching. You could dig a small pit (like 3 blocks deep, 2-3 wide from the wall) in front of the stair region and line it with fore fields. As far as the thickness, that depends on the material. Are you using cobblestone, concrete or steel? And it also depends on the gamestage. I would say 3 layers of concrete would be more than enough for most cases though that is wildly dependent on your design.
Pseudo, This might make ZERO sense the way I explain it, but I’m having trouble with this design. At the top of the screamer fence 10:16 You have the double railing on top of the pillars. Yet when I do it, I can’t get the doors to lay flat against them. I’d have to have the double pillar “block area” facing AWAY from the cage. But doing so doesn’t align the doubles with the existing railing at the top. I really want to finish this build, but am wary because of this. Am I missing something?
Welp. Forget this build 😂😂 I built the entire jail out of concrete. Had them all built with the block on the inside of the jail. Can’t place a ladder up against it now. Only on the outside. I wish I had watched this video and understood the build dynamics of the game before attempting this. For some reason I can’t see the ghost block of each item you’re laying down to know which direction it should be facing. This really sucks 😂
@@pseudoposse I do that. I rotate the doors correctly and the double railing. But when I rotate the double railing to be able to have the door connect to it, it unaligned with the end railing on the platform. Basically it becomes its own standing structure that needs support.
In theroy, couldn't you make a metric ton of dew collectors to always have heat high? Instead of wasting wood and having to micro campfire to truly be afk?
This makes me wonder, is there a block that can be made into a floor, that will prevent zombies from falling through but will allow loot bags to fall through? My guess is that there is not, otherwise *everybody* would be using it, but I just thought that I would ask. :)
well there kinda is, you can make use of the 'air duct'/chute shapes that are slide oriented, usually not slippery enough for zombies to slip through, but also possible to get clogged with bags
Devs: "we will introduce a twist for crafters/homesteaders out there, "have fun" o.o " Pseudo posse: "hold my beer..." edit: corrected bear > beer... but for this game bear could work too.
I commented on your last video about how screamer stops spawning zombies after a while no matter how much she screamed. im suprised there is no info about that in this video. did you find anything in your testing as to why this could happen?
Is this viable for a regular horde base as well? I'm considering putting this up and the "heat source" just being a largish crafting setup. 4 forges, 2 chem, 2 workbench, 3 campfires, 2 mixers.
You could absolutely use this for a horde base. Though depending on the gamestage, you might want to make the loot bag collection platform wider, and multiple ladders back up for the zombie loop. And if you find you can't kill zombies fast enough before they start to pile too high, you might also consider making the bag collection platform lower so they fall further.
something I"m confused about is, the screamer's scream mechanics; I swear in older versions the screamer was limited to I think...3 screams that were of any effect? and so to get additional zombies, new screamers would come in, but identifying which were the old ones to cull them after they'd run out of screams became a mechanic....has that been removed, and they can endlessly screm?
They'll endlessly scream but eventually stop spawning after 3 times. Though there might be some cool down period in which they'll start spawning again.
@@pseudoposse okay so they're still working with the 3 summon mechanics...might be interesting to do some testing...what with one of them being imprisoned....just kill off the zomberts and see what do? assuming yoiu turn off the fireplaces so it's not caused by new screamers coming in.
I have played with windows in the past just seeing what I could build. But every time I upgrade or repair an empty window (like for the entrance to a shower I built) it fills the window in. You said you heard of the window idea before, is there by chance a different video that shows how to keep it empty?
@pseudoposse true, but it means it does have a breaking point though, so its not truly an endless farm. Would take a few more blocks to do it, but a zombie dropper would work as well, and save you from having to do repairs all the time as well
@@avenguard9503 the screamer block damage is weak, similar to arlene. you wouldn't want to trap a tourist or a demo but a frail zombie can wail on a rail for 15 minutes and still not break it (assuming concrete+)
There seems to be something weird with force field blocks since the last patch, its not the first time i see/read somebody having issues with them. Im using a double row of those oval-rectagle-shaped window empty, with a two block gap under them, and zombies went right over the blocks. Unrelated question, but when zombies trace a path to the player, does it counts block distance plus height? how do i calculate the max distance? i have a 10 block high kill corridor with stairs around 30-35 blocks from the shooting position, and every time zombies prefer to attack a five block thick concrete wall than take the path.
I know the closer in height to the player they are, the more likely they will path to you. It is certainly a factor though I am not sure if the distance they see is represented as just x-blocks away from the player or if it is represented as a float and it actually calculates a distance factoring in height/distance/angle to player.
I noticed that when I use the window circle empty for the impassable block, that when I upgrade it, to even wood, that it fills the glass in. Is that okay? Or should I leave it as the plain building block and just paint it?
@@pseudoposse appreciate it. I finished it up. Adding some flavor now. I feel I messed something up and I’m gonna get annihilated and not know where I went wrong
Pseudo do you have a discord server we could contact you on? As well as could you do a video on how water effects zombie pathing and how to make water bases work?
We don't currently have a discord server set up but that is something I've been meaning to do. I haven't done any water bases yet but I can definitely explore more water pathing.
Hello, i built this awesome trap now but i have a question. you build stairs at the end and said, its for getting the lootbags, but i cant see the way. have i to jump over the 0,00125 pillars?
Ah, not sure if it was included in the video, but I basically run from the platform just before the pillars and jump off the side onto the lower platform where the forcefields are. Basically I just wanted a fast way into that part that zombies couldn't follow. But if that doesn't work for you, feel free to make yourself another way in ideally using force field shapes :)
Did they change something? I built this and the screamers are only calling in 1 horde, all screams after the first one dont call in new zombies, and she has been despawning a bunch as well.
She does, but I think after a a couple in game hours, she might reset. I'll have to test that out to confirm but I saw another wave of zombies while I was still in heat cooldown.
It is definitely safer the wider/deeper you make it. That is probably a good rule of thumb to make it at least 3 wide and 3 deep though you don't necessarily have to depending on how you are using the forcefield.
Can someone tell me what he used on the outer walls …it’s like rounded and protrudes …like the walls have texture . He said ramps …I can’t figure out what gives that shape
Spike traps are very weak and zombies will destroy them very quickly. I really only use spikes against vultures. If you want something down there, electric fence posts plus dart traps would be better if you want some more damage.
If i close the two doors so the screamer can fall down, other zombies try to jump over and also landing in the screamer cage. they are not using the other way
After you trap the screamer, make sure you don't leave the doors down. Zombies might try to go that way if you still stand over there...but if you move to the other part of the base, they shouldn't go that way.
is it normal that two screamers spawn at once? (happend to me two times already) if it is normal, will more screamers spawn at once as the game stage advances.
They aren't as good as they used to be back in the day for sure. But I think even a couple screamer hordes per day will give decent XP + some loot bags.
This is... kinda... pointless? Its a massive amount of work, requires constant maintenance to avoid zombies breaking through pieces of it, and you use a mod to increase loot bag drop rate? If you're modding the game for more loot then you've already negated the point of building this at all. Really not understanding the logic on this one.
Leave it to taco to break things 😂. Enjoy the farming!
Just so you know From what i've seen in a Multiplayer playthrough is that A Normal Screamer has a chance to spawn a Feral or Rad screamer, This means That Each screamer CAN Possibly Spawn Either or but can only scream x3 TImes This means that If you're building a screamer farm base you will need to remember they only scream 3x for z's to spawn If a screamer is left alive after the 3rd scream they will not spawn Anymore Zombies Until another screamer Spawns and screams 3x again This means That if a screamer see's you They scream 3x And the type of screamer Dpeends on person in party with Highest GS. Also Gunfire from Guns like The M60 Auto shotgun Desert vulture SMG can also Trigger Screamer spawns Even if they're silenced, Explosives also Trigger screamer spawns as well
i got a question here. If zombie block damage is set to 300% and blood moon damage is set to 300% does that stack? So is it 3x damage all around regardless of bloodmoon or not or 6x damage because 300% + 300% or 9x damage because 300% bloodmoon multiplied by the standard 300%? I also posted this on Jawoodle to see if anyone knows.
@@ZZ-qn1bo Yes it does, I wouldn't recommend anything Above 150 Your base will be in absolute shambles if you go anything Above 200 on both. 300 is overkill But From what i read in the XML's This is how Gamestage works
/ Starting spawn stage is in this first entry.
// It will spawn up to 300 zombies, but only 8 can be alive at any one time due to performance reasons.
// Zombies will be spawned from the ZombiesNight spawn group defined in entitygroups.xml
// (Optional) The duration of this stage is 1 game hour, after that game hour the next spawn will start OR the spawning will complete
// if there are no more spawns.
// (Optional) Interval is a delay in seconds between the end of a spawn group and the next one
// If we have a use for it this could also trigger a stinger sound.
// After 300 zombies have been killed this defines a kind of "station keeping" mode
// where there will be one zombie sent to harass the players until sunrise.
maxAlive is now per player, not per party
another words GS now in 1.0 is calculated by Player ( in Multiplayer) not by Party
[
gameStage = ( playerLevel + daysSurvived ) * difficultyBonus
@@ZZ-qn1bo Note the Last Bit of information from the gamestage XML That is the Most Important part of the information i gave you from the GS XML This is why i say don't go above 200 Block damage And HN Damage
Just letting you know you're my favorite 7days content. Informative, straight to the point, excellent diction. I've learned a LOT from your videos, and my bases are noticeably better since.
That is so amazing to hear! We're happy to have had a positive influence!
I love that u have started showing us the building of the base . And it’s so helpful knowing the blocks . Please keep introducing us to new blocks . This is the only way I figure out how to use some of these ., I’ve been stuck for years on just the cube ans the scaffolding …and ocassionally if I was feeling adventurous I’d throw in a wedge tip 😮😂😂😂😂
Absolutely! With all the requests in recent videos, we've tried to strike a better balance between the concepts and how to build. Definitely happy to get more people using shapes beyond the cube!
@@pseudoposse yes plz! Because some shapes , I know most of us have no idea how to incorporate them into builds !
@@adrewbateman1760 We'll definitely keep including all the variety of shapes in our vids :)
Love the Screamer Farm! Never really considered it before, so this is pretty clever. Thank you too for explaining all the blocks, and for providing us with a lootbag mod too. I don't use mods but I'm sure it'll be super helpful for those who do use them. ♡
Also can't unsee the base looking like a kitty face or a chicken in the thumbnail, especially with that orange.
@@nocturnalwinter You're welcome!! Haha, looking at it, your kind of right lol. Didn't notice while building :D
Don't see the need for the farm. I played the console since launch not long ago and have everything maxed out.
the extra xp is extra xp for the record?
Anyway unless i was a TH-cam streamer the game would not be end game for me.
BUT
I not.
so Im experimenting with these other survival games HumanitZ and Vein.
one of them reminds me of Dysmantle...and if you have not played Dysmantle you are missing out hardcore.
my horse ate my chicken roosty
Love your building esthetic. Always looks so nice as well as functional. This is a gr8 idea. Im so using this in my next play-though.
Go forth and make good use of it!
Exactly what I was looking for when I commented on the last video you made about the mechanics of screamers, thank you good sir.
No problem!
Even me who has played the game over 350h+ I am still amazed how the AI works and how you can build stuff to prevent zombies getting to you etc. I myself mostly play casually and find a church with a wall. Reinforce it, make it double the thickness. Take away all the doors and leave one entrance point for melee killing and shooting with shotgun. IF else fails, I bail to my tower that is just a basic tower that has 3 rows of ladders allowing them to come up and fall down because of *Railing Diagonal* shape. So far so good for day 35 without dying for 35h of gameplay haha.
Your videos help me give an idea how to build things better and be properly prepared for horde nights
Your design is certainly classic. So if it works, then it works! There are definitely ways to exploit the AI, and my videos will give you a variety of strategies to slightly take advantage or majorly cheese them and everything in-between. Happy to provide help!
@@pseudoposse Thank you! I keep an eye to see if I find something suitable to build and try myself and maybe tune it as your videos are really good. You also got a sub from me!
I am more used to classic designs and not rly to something extreme but it is always nice to see some cool tips and tricks
@@LWM-Official-Music-Channel Happy to hear that! That is one of my main goals is to inspire others to take my designs and tweak them to their liking.
I'll definitely have to make more classic design type bases like the we did in our previous video.
end-game build that farms xp that you dont need in end-game... Great job brotha
This base is a bit more end game-ish but I made it big and sprawling on purpose to separate each component. You could easily build a much shorter base, that is more compact and have something viable in the early/mid game.
Your videos are some of the highest quality out there. Thank you for the massive efforts
Glad you like them!
Or do the vendor trick and get tons of dukes and just buy the stuff you need lol. Good video love the base keep up the great work!!
Using the truck horn (or less so with earlier vehicles) is a great option for a manual heat boost to speed it up, or, much weaker, you can spam open/close a container or metal door. Alternatively on passive you can just make a Very well lit room…
There definitely several options for passive heat generation.
I'd love to see a video on how to get an early game wasteland base set up or a base idea that works inside a t5 POI for that juicy extra gamestage + loot :).
Thanks for the informative videos
Noted thanks for the idea!
I love the interaction, both between you and taco, and you with the audience; definitely one of the things i don't hate ;) lol
Great build. I probably won’t personally use it because the learn by magazine bs makes power leveling less important (and I get enough screamers as is). But I really appreciate the way you laid out the video and the aesthetics of your build.
Fair enough! It could be more useful for you in overhaul mods that replace the learn by reading if mods are your thing.
It worked. Respond screamer was trapped, a few zombies came and once they were killed no more came even though the screamer was screaming away.
im getting the same results
Very thorough and informative. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your videos are always so interesting and well done. Kudos
Glad you think so!
I dunno, to adjust to this new 'screamers' on day 2, lol, I jumped to get a horde base asap...just put a 'jawoodle killing corridor' with the fighting position 15blocks high, so they fall past their Rage Mode...one of the grain elevator POIs work nicely....when the base calls in a screamer, head up to the fighting box and wait....stun baton and repulsor mode along with a good ol 'pneumatic sledgie...watch the ragdolling and profit! lol
Once I saw his name I read the rest of your comment in Jawoodle's voice, and it's perfect
I'm sorry man, the upvotes were at 666, but it was so helpful i couldn't help but upvote
A small sacrifice, but all that being said, RIP 666.
Nice, amazing Thanks for this, This is exactly what I was looking for. I just subbed will def be trying to build this.
Thank you and welcome aboard! Good luck with the build!
Aside from the accent, Taco turned into my wife for a minute! That was hilarious! Thank you for leaving it in the video. Good job on this Eerie. Interesting concept. Are there any blocks that you're aware of that zombies will only path over in one direction? Maybe a door or special shape? That could be very useful in a (extra cheesy) base.
Haha some things are just universal 🤣. I guess it depends what you mean by pathing over in a single direction. I suppose a zombie dropping shape could fit that definition as they fall before they could move another way.
Have you done any underwater bases for 1.0 yet? I've tried some and here is what I have so far...
1. I can not break the water plane when building in the coastal/edge of map water. So you can't have a base with connecting rooms above and below the waterline. But the water is deep so you can have a multi-level base underwater.
2. POI waters like the new bridges over the lakes you can build below and above. A bit shallow so not much for underwater.
3. Moonpools work. A hole in the floor to enter the base.
4. Bulletproof Glass (Plates) give you an air pocket and place to stand when removing the water. (Stand in the window while filling the room with building blocks)
5. When working on the coastal base, I needed to have a ceiling two blocks thick to remove the water. Once the water is removed only one layer is required. So place building blocks on top of the roof then remove them once completed. (Strange one, this one)
6. Zombies will use stairs/ramps to enter the base, but if they fall or get knocked off they will rage swim instead of returning to the path.
Number 6 is where I'm stuck. Coming up with a way to fight the horde.
I haven't done a water base yet in 1.0 but in my testing I did for our 80+ beginner tips video, it seems like it is much the same as alpha 21. As for your issue, zombies will path under water if you give them one. If you give them an underwater path, they will swim along that path rather than swimming through the water so they'll actually travel further then necessary. Point being, you can make a path underwater leading back to your path above water and they'll go back up. Even a simple ladder from lakebed up toward your main path will suffice.
Psuedo, I don't know if this is true in Vers 1, but in the Alpha, screamers did have a limit on the number screams they could use to call in other zombies. I think it was 3 screams PER Screamer. They can call in other screamers who also will have 3 screams to call in Zombies. This MAY have changed. I don't know.
I think they don´t changed that cause i was bored some days ago and watched a screamer horde trying to take down the navezgane general hospital and they stopped calling in for help even after i killed her friends.
I don't know about the 3 screams per screamer thing, but I can confirm that there is a chance a screamer will call in another screamer, as I got gang raped in my latest solo playthrough because a screamer called in another screamer, who called in another screamer. I did manage to kill several zombies before succumbing, though. Oh, that was day 8, on normal settings, btw.
yeah, 3 screams per screamer so the screamer trap is not needed.
It’s still the same, I tried farming them and nope, 3 screams and she was empty, BUT her screams attract random zombies as well, so she can still bring in the roaming zombies or make a wandering hoard pivot towards your position
Yeah eventually her screams stop bringing in zombies. But after a bit of time, I did get some more zombies come in. Not sure if it resets after awhile but didn't have to wait more than a couple ingame hours.
That being said, I think the trap it still useful as it allows her to get off all her screams before she dies prematurely.
Just love it! So creative!
Thank you! 😊
Would be an interesting build if Screamers weren't limited to 3 screams. Builders beware, this base costs a lot of resources with VERY little payback.
Love the tutorial and all the 7 days content you've been making! Actually building this right now, but I wanted to leave a comment that's somewhat of a critique.. When doing your step-by-step tutorial part of the video, I would personally like to see the whole "but I changed this after some testing" parts (9:40 for example). You originally advised we used the slope plate corner filled, and as someone who pauses and does each step, seeing you change the block 10 seconds later meant I had to break all of those to replace with the window plate circle empty. I feel like it would be smoother if you had just originally told us to use the block you intended to use rather than show us what you initially used then what you changed it to..
I get this could just be a personal preference and it is your videos after all, but I'm sure some others would agree.
Either way can't wait to test this out after building! Thanks for the tutorial
I appreciate the feedback! I do like to show what works and what doesn't work but I can try to find a better balance to display that information!
@@pseudoposse Thanks for the response! Once again it's your channel so whatever you see fit for your videos and audience goes obviously. Just wanted to give my personal opinion while watching, otherwise the videos recently have been 10/10 :)
@@kaigeisler5505 I definitely love to hear the feedback so I know how to continuously improve the videos. I'm glad you've enjoyed them!
Excellent build as always
Thank you! Cheers!
Well thought out. Thank you.
You're welcome :)
We've already implemented home base defences utilising the 15 block range and shape types that block visibility for Screamers, this might be a fun base to build later and just *fill* with workstations 😂
Absolutely!
Each screamer can scream only 3 times. We use to do farm with burning barrels since they dont need wood to burn.
Yeah I noticed hitting a limit while testing but after waiting a couple ingame hours, I saw more zombies come and I believe I was still in heat cooldown from the original screamer spawn.
funny you should say that, because iirc the burning barrels were decorative only and didn't add heat passively. which was counter-intuitive to everyone that tried it thinking it worked better than a campfire. or maybe they did add heat but they wouldn't set them on fire if they walk over burning barrels. maybe it was second one that i'm thinking about, you'd think they would set on fire but the barrels for some reason are just decorative.
@@pseudoposse I think every scream has 50% chance to spawn another screamer. Btw good content and editing.
@@stevdor6146 My friend, barrels are same thing as torch, which is causing heat. Not decorative. Tested million times.
I sent a request with a load of others love that you responded to them
I enjoy responding to all the comments I can :)
This is a great concept, and I think I will give it a try. In your heat map video, you mentioned heat developes differently across chunks of the map. Would it be advantageous to find a corner where four chunks meet to spawn more screamers? Would that be possible, and is it easily found WITHOUT going into debug mode?
There might be a way to determine chunk without debug menu by some means though I haven't given it much thought. That being said, there might be the optimal placement to maximize heat spread but not sure how worth it that would be.
I was going to tell you how good this video is and the build is awesome, but..... Taco messaged me and said that if I didn't back up her claim that you have a flawed design that she would uses her particular set of skills, and she WOULD find me. Yeah, I don't f*@! with a determined Taco!
-In case Taco is reading- So, uh...yeah. Design better Pseudo!
Taco definitely has skills. She's always telling me to build simple and small...so I make a compact loot bag area. Then she proceeds to ask for mods making the lootbags rain and spawns like 60 zombies lol. Classic taco :D
Next time, I am over engineering just for her haha.
@@pseudoposse Pseudo + over-engineering = 120 min video, lol
by the way she is reading (and laughing 🌮)
@@theguru143 Remember you'll have taco to thank!
reminds me of the old board game "mouse trap"
Lol maybe you're right 😆
Nice content! Hey, it would be Nice IF you had a video showing wich blocks are pathable.
I've looked for it and found on the vídeo about 80 tips for horde base
@@adolphoboder6195 Yep that would be the one!
It would be nice to get a video explaining stability. E.g. I rarely see people building a steel block connected to bedrock and then building horizontally with a lighter block. Are there any difference if you mix horizontally and vertically blocks not connected to bedrock?
How are blocks calculated that are bigger than 1m x 1m?
Mixing vertical blocks doesn't make a difference. But when mixing horizontally, that doesn't really help. In the extreme case, say you connected a wood block to a steel. By itself steel can support a bunch of mass. But the wood cannot. So even though the wood is connected to steel, if you then add more blocks totaling the horizontal mass that wood can support, it will collapse despite steel being the "anchor" point. Though steel could have supported more, wood couldn't.
is there any way to find out a chunkborder without going into debugmode? this would allow for placing the farm in the intersecting part of 4 chunks and get alot more screamers by heating up multiple chunks?
Not sure if there is some way to determine chunks without going into debug mode. Maybe you could possibly correlate the map coordinates to chunk grid.
Hi Pseudo. I like your 7D2D vids very much 😊 and i learned a lot of them. I tried the thing with the non pathable parts at my base but it didnt work. I dug a Trench around my base and a wall around the trench from the outside and wanted to force the zombies with your tipp to enter the Trench at a certain Position through a gab in the wall. But they still cross it at the Position where the stairs led out of the trench. I hope u understand my Problem and can help me with it. Greetings
Sorry, not quit following the design. So you have a trench around your base, and outside of the trench is a wall? And in the wall you have a gap but not sure where the stairs are positioned or the forcefield shapes.
@@pseudoposse 😅 i knew that with my bad english i couldn't give u a good picture. I should better draw it :) but i will try to explain. So the trench around my base is about 4 Blocks deep and 8 blocks wide. But it isn't fully "open", at one corner it is blocked with a wall. My plan was that they go into the trench at the one side of the wall and have to go through the whole trench to get to the other side of that mentioned wall. At that spot are the stairs that leed out of the trench again and up to my base. Of cource the trench is filled with fenches, shotgunturrets and bladetraps ;-) so to force them this way my idea was a wall around the trench from the outside, on "ground level" so to say. But they keep on trying to break the "outside" wall at the spot where behind the stairs are in the trench and not take the open, unblocked path a bit more left of it to take the way around through the trench. So my question in the first place, is it possible to make them take the open Part through the trench and not "smash" the direct way through the wall? Or is my wohle idea impossible? I tried your idea with the Windows plate and 2 blocks space under it but they just dropped in them and smashed through the wall as mentioned. I hope u got the picture otherwise we could talk again or i would love to invite u to my Server so that u could look at it :) but many thanks for taking the time to help me. Greetings
@@HeikeKocher That makes much more sense, thank you! It sounds like you are trying to route the zombies through a large trench that ultimately leads to a set of stairs on the opposite side of the trench which then would lead to your base.
The problem is if the path is too long, and the wall blocking the stairs is too weak, zombies will prefer to take a shortcut and just beat through the wall to reach the stairs. Zombies generally follow the path of least resistance. To force them along your route, you'll need to make the wall extra thick and/or you could put force field shapes around the outer wall region to prevent them from breaking through. Covering the top of the trench with forcefield shapes might also work though with the stairs below it, not sure if zombies won't still see it as a shortcut.
@@pseudopossei am glad that i could give u a better clue :) yes u are right and i already tried the thing with the forcefield shapes, which quiet well worked for most the time but it seems in the hord night they almost "ignored" them. Do they dont work then or do i have to make them wider? And how thick u would think i should build my walls at the critical spots? Thx and greetings
@@HeikeKocher During horde with greater numbers, they will definitely beat threw walls that a single zombie alone wouldn't try. Same principle applies, you want to beef up your defenses and use forcefield shapes to prevent them from reaching. You could dig a small pit (like 3 blocks deep, 2-3 wide from the wall) in front of the stair region and line it with fore fields.
As far as the thickness, that depends on the material. Are you using cobblestone, concrete or steel? And it also depends on the gamestage. I would say 3 layers of concrete would be more than enough for most cases though that is wildly dependent on your design.
Good stuff
Thank you 😆
Pseudo,
This might make ZERO sense the way I explain it, but I’m having trouble with this design.
At the top of the screamer fence 10:16 You have the double railing on top of the pillars. Yet when I do it, I can’t get the doors to lay flat against them. I’d have to have the double pillar “block area” facing AWAY from the cage. But doing so doesn’t align the doubles with the existing railing at the top.
I really want to finish this build, but am wary because of this.
Am I missing something?
Welp. Forget this build 😂😂
I built the entire jail out of concrete.
Had them all built with the block on the inside of the jail. Can’t place a ladder up against it now. Only on the outside. I wish I had watched this video and understood the build dynamics of the game before attempting this.
For some reason I can’t see the ghost block of each item you’re laying down to know which direction it should be facing.
This really sucks 😂
To rotate the doors, you have to use advanced rotation. Also make sure the railings are rotated to be on the side where the door will connect.
@@pseudoposse I do that. I rotate the doors correctly and the double railing. But when I rotate the double railing to be able to have the door connect to it, it unaligned with the end railing on the platform.
Basically it becomes its own standing structure that needs support.
In theroy, couldn't you make a metric ton of dew collectors to always have heat high? Instead of wasting wood and having to micro campfire to truly be afk?
You absolutely could! They generate a bit less heat and take up more room but they'll definitely get the job done.
This makes me wonder, is there a block that can be made into a floor, that will prevent zombies from falling through but will allow loot bags to fall through? My guess is that there is not, otherwise *everybody* would be using it, but I just thought that I would ask. :)
There are shapes that would do that, but the real trick is whether those shapes are also zombie pathable.
well there kinda is, you can make use of the 'air duct'/chute shapes that are slide oriented, usually not slippery enough for zombies to slip through, but also possible to get clogged with bags
Devs: "we will introduce a twist for crafters/homesteaders out there, "have fun" o.o "
Pseudo posse: "hold my beer..."
edit: corrected bear > beer... but for this game bear could work too.
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I commented on your last video about how screamer stops spawning zombies after a while no matter how much she screamed. im suprised there is no info about that in this video. did you find anything in your testing as to why this could happen?
Yeah sorry didn't touch upon that directly in the video. It seems after 3 screams, she is unable to call more zombies for a certain amount of time.
Is this viable for a regular horde base as well? I'm considering putting this up and the "heat source" just being a largish crafting setup. 4 forges, 2 chem, 2 workbench, 3 campfires, 2 mixers.
You could absolutely use this for a horde base. Though depending on the gamestage, you might want to make the loot bag collection platform wider, and multiple ladders back up for the zombie loop. And if you find you can't kill zombies fast enough before they start to pile too high, you might also consider making the bag collection platform lower so they fall further.
something I"m confused about is, the screamer's scream mechanics; I swear in older versions the screamer was limited to I think...3 screams that were of any effect? and so to get additional zombies, new screamers would come in, but identifying which were the old ones to cull them after they'd run out of screams became a mechanic....has that been removed, and they can endlessly screm?
They'll endlessly scream but eventually stop spawning after 3 times. Though there might be some cool down period in which they'll start spawning again.
@@pseudoposse okay so they're still working with the 3 summon mechanics...might be interesting to do some testing...what with one of them being imprisoned....just kill off the zomberts and see what do? assuming yoiu turn off the fireplaces so it's not caused by new screamers coming in.
That window idea seems very familiar.. lol
I have played with windows in the past just seeing what I could build. But every time I upgrade or repair an empty window (like for the entrance to a shower I built) it fills the window in.
You said you heard of the window idea before, is there by chance a different video that shows how to keep it empty?
Looks like When the screamer reaches the top of the ladder she takes a swipe, that block will give way eventually if she's hitting it
It would eventually but after you clear the zombies, you can easily make repairs.
@pseudoposse true, but it means it does have a breaking point though, so its not truly an endless farm. Would take a few more blocks to do it, but a zombie dropper would work as well, and save you from having to do repairs all the time as well
@@avenguard9503 the screamer block damage is weak, similar to arlene. you wouldn't want to trap a tourist or a demo but a frail zombie can wail on a rail for 15 minutes and still not break it (assuming concrete+)
@@avenguard9503 A zombie dropper would reduce the damage, but wouldn't necessarily be infinite either.
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There seems to be something weird with force field blocks since the last patch, its not the first time i see/read somebody having issues with them. Im using a double row of those oval-rectagle-shaped window empty, with a two block gap under them, and zombies went right over the blocks.
Unrelated question, but when zombies trace a path to the player, does it counts block distance plus height? how do i calculate the max distance? i have a 10 block high kill corridor with stairs around 30-35 blocks from the shooting position, and every time zombies prefer to attack a five block thick concrete wall than take the path.
I know the closer in height to the player they are, the more likely they will path to you. It is certainly a factor though I am not sure if the distance they see is represented as just x-blocks away from the player or if it is represented as a float and it actually calculates a distance factoring in height/distance/angle to player.
I see a Minecraft creeper face in there.
Haha I guess you are right!
Do you have to have some sort of special paint on the force field circle windows? Do they need to be red?
The paint is just for visual purposes. It doesn't have any functionality so you can paint it any color you like or not paint it at all.
So they changed how many times a screamer can scream? I remember very well running them in circles until they stopped spawning zombies in.
Can you not use this screamer trap for horde night? And keep them trapped in there trying to path up as well as you mow them down?
You could absolutely use this design for horde night :)
I noticed that when I use the window circle empty for the impassable block, that when I upgrade it, to even wood, that it fills the glass in. Is that okay? Or should I leave it as the plain building block and just paint it?
Upgrading it will fill in the glass which makes it pathable.
@@pseudoposse appreciate it. I finished it up. Adding some flavor now. I feel I messed something up and I’m gonna get annihilated and not know where I went wrong
what block did you use on the cat walks to connect to the ladders seen at 1148 in the video?
Pseudo do you have a discord server we could contact you on?
As well as could you do a video on how water effects zombie pathing and how to make water bases work?
We don't currently have a discord server set up but that is something I've been meaning to do.
I haven't done any water bases yet but I can definitely explore more water pathing.
@@pseudoposse could I add your discord?
@@thebeast8429 Thanks for the offer! But I have started putting it together. Keep an eye out in the community posts for an announcement :)
😂 Her critique at the end. She's like a Chinese parent that is never satisfied with your grades in school no matter how well you do.
You are not wrong :D
Hello, i built this awesome trap now but i have a question. you build stairs at the end and said, its for getting the lootbags, but i cant see the way. have i to jump over the 0,00125 pillars?
Ah, not sure if it was included in the video, but I basically run from the platform just before the pillars and jump off the side onto the lower platform where the forcefields are. Basically I just wanted a fast way into that part that zombies couldn't follow. But if that doesn't work for you, feel free to make yourself another way in ideally using force field shapes :)
@@pseudoposse thank you =) i just begin to learn the function of your trap =) after some tests, it works wonderfull
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Did they change something? I built this and the screamers are only calling in 1 horde, all screams after the first one dont call in new zombies, and she has been despawning a bunch as well.
I thought Screamers only had 3 summoning screams.
She does, but I think after a a couple in game hours, she might reset. I'll have to test that out to confirm but I saw another wave of zombies while I was still in heat cooldown.
I thought the zombie forcefield was supposed to be at least 3 wide and 3 deep to be optimal? I could be wrong though
It is definitely safer the wider/deeper you make it. That is probably a good rule of thumb to make it at least 3 wide and 3 deep though you don't necessarily have to depending on how you are using the forcefield.
Can someone tell me what he used on the outer walls …it’s like rounded and protrudes …like the walls have texture . He said ramps …I can’t figure out what gives that shape
It is the Ramp Wedge60 Tip :)
@@pseudoposse ty sir! 🙌🏼
cant you use spike traps as floors? in the loot drop zone.
Spike traps are very weak and zombies will destroy them very quickly. I really only use spikes against vultures. If you want something down there, electric fence posts plus dart traps would be better if you want some more damage.
Do the screamer not only scream like 2-3 times before it do not work anymore?
If i close the two doors so the screamer can fall down, other zombies try to jump over and also landing in the screamer cage. they are not using the other way
After you trap the screamer, make sure you don't leave the doors down. Zombies might try to go that way if you still stand over there...but if you move to the other part of the base, they shouldn't go that way.
is it normal that two screamers spawn at once? (happend to me two times already) if it is normal, will more screamers spawn at once as the game stage advances.
on day 26 and 28 two feral screamers spawned at once and i am a little confused because a though that only one can spawn
@@xpetr5214 It is definitely normal. 1-2 screamers can spawn per wave.
Can you fill the pit with water and it still be Is unpassabl??
Hmm maybe, she might be able to swim across though.
I’m having trouble to place the door
yoink😅🎉
That's how it's done 😆
Does heat change with game level?
It does not. It is purely based on specific actions or passive heat sources like crafting stations.
can get them trapped and doing the loop but they wont scream any ideas?
Too many loot bags in a design flaw I need in my bases!
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It's a good problem to have 😆
Why theyre no informations of how many block you make xD
Haha I'll start counting 😆!
@@pseudoposse your vidéo IS cool just miss a writing information about number of vertical block you used
pretty sure each screamer can scream only two times
Hehehe I'm#1! 0:57
Congratulations!
@@pseudoposse I consider it to be kind of a badge of honor. Lol
too bad the loot sucks. they need to rework the bags.
bump
It's time to get a job, young man.
Design flaw😂😂😂
Taco has a skill for trouble 😁
and this is worthless because of the minimum 21 minute respawn and max screams...
screamer farms just aren't worth it anymore
They aren't as good as they used to be back in the day for sure. But I think even a couple screamer hordes per day will give decent XP + some loot bags.
No criativo é fácil e desnecessário 😅
That Intro is beyond unnecessary. Please choose another.
This is... kinda... pointless? Its a massive amount of work, requires constant maintenance to avoid zombies breaking through pieces of it, and you use a mod to increase loot bag drop rate? If you're modding the game for more loot then you've already negated the point of building this at all. Really not understanding the logic on this one.
As stated in the video, the mod was just to spawn more to show how it works. The base isn't meant to be used with the mod