What are domestic helpers really doing on their phones? | Talking Point | Episode 36

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  • According to the International Labour Organization, 53% of maids in Singapore do not enjoy mobile phone entitlements. Are mobile phones increasingly driving a wedge between maids and employers?
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  • @Drebolaskan
    @Drebolaskan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1541

    They're human. Women, alone in a foreign land, usually in their youth where others their age born under more fortunate conditions are going around town with their friends. Their phones are a small source of comfort for them.
    I'm not at all against dishing out disciplinary actions when they misbehave, but try to remember that you're dealing with a fellow human being.

    • @caseycaseyacaaca
      @caseycaseyacaaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      True, if they do not want that to happen, hire a robot to take care of your children and houses

    • @joyssi
      @joyssi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      However, things can go wrong if its inappropriate for the video

    • @keiralol1589
      @keiralol1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      True but what if someone can track where they live and something bad will happen

    • @mitraaxxiv109
      @mitraaxxiv109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I agree to a certain extent, but at the end of the day they are employed here, not here to be exposing employers privacy and wasting time that they are getting paid for. I see it a little like how students are not allowed to use phones/use phones with restrictions in our schools. Thats just not the purpose you're at that place for.

    • @slaiyfershin
      @slaiyfershin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@caseycaseyacaaca Likewise they are signing up for a full-time job as a lifestyle to get a much higher wage than back home. If mobile phones are a deal breaker then they aren't that desperate to earn big money overseas.

  • @flowersandroses4734
    @flowersandroses4734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    The best way to solve this: Helpers are allowed to use their phone so long as they do their work, behave appropriately when filming themselves and not revealing their employer’s privacy to the internet

    • @lindsey9460
      @lindsey9460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly

    • @nicholas919cleare
      @nicholas919cleare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Slavery indeed

    • @jameshubert6103
      @jameshubert6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nicholas919cleare they had a choice, slaves didn’t. These maids got paid on working and could quit if they wanted to.

    • @lombo5293
      @lombo5293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wanna keep this beautiful Chinese/Asian host as my maid. Will see what she does.

    • @MommyAlee
      @MommyAlee ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nicholas919cleare you don’t follow your employer protocols you’re free to find another job… that’s not slavery it’s for safety of both parties! Theres a right place and time for tiktok… from my work we’re not allowed to use our fone nor take videos at all but we respect their protocols but I don’t consider it slavery…

  • @imanvibe7980
    @imanvibe7980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    We talked so much about social inclusivity and yet we deprive domestic workers of their rights to own and use a handphone. They are just as humans as us. Why target them to prove your point on cybersecurity? Anyone is just as vulnerable.

  • @rj12783
    @rj12783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    Then stop hiring maids and START DOING YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLD CHORES. They're human with humor NOT ROBOTS lah

    • @renegadewarrior8949
      @renegadewarrior8949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I strongly agree with your opinion. Well said!!!

    • @benghai4919
      @benghai4919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed.

    • @trafficmonsoonacademy562
      @trafficmonsoonacademy562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Shame on those who...
      1. Brought up this idea
      2. Created this cover story
      I only hope God can punish those responsible for those who created this story
      This domestic workers are human beings with emotional needs. Like all of us.
      The only difference is that they have a different profession.
      To domestic workers who is reading this comment. Thank you so much for your sacrifices, patience in hardships, accepting a low pay, enduring abusive employer(s) and many other things that S'poreans, PR and expats can never endure even for a day.
      And again. Shame on you CNA, the creators and supporter of this cover story. God is watching and HE will give justice. Just wait for it. :)

    • @vantastroganoff4370
      @vantastroganoff4370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lazy
      Most cant f boil water.i have no desire for these places i rather lappland and sahel

    • @verballyconstipated
      @verballyconstipated 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trafficmonsoonacademy562 :/ my family has a maid and thats because both meh mom and dad have to go to work

  • @iloveapple3106
    @iloveapple3106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    Don't hire a maid.Do all the chores in your house.Simple as that.

    • @caseycaseyacaaca
      @caseycaseyacaaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Exactly

    • @sev9642
      @sev9642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Some people need to work and can’t take care of children

    • @suyinweesy
      @suyinweesy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Some people can't iron, wash their own clothes, hang their own clothes, cook or clean etc. And I know people like that.

    • @emmttraveler119
      @emmttraveler119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      betul!!!

    • @skyOH7
      @skyOH7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@sev9642 for real?! If they are a parents they should know that taking care of their children is an obligation. Yes I know parents have to work.. we all do. Still though the bottom line is you want kids make time for them. If you can't make time for your own flesh and blood then they shouldn't have kids yet. Parents should never use work as an excuse as the reason why they have no time to take care of their children. This is just opinion btw.

  • @thepinoyrice
    @thepinoyrice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    The tone and perspective they’re pushing towards domestic helpers is deadass gross and rude. They’re human, let them live. They’re on land away from their own home. Yea it could be seen as a distraction, but it’s a human right in society of the developed world. Restricting this upon many other rules just shows how domestic workers are modern-day slaves.

    • @meemyra94
      @meemyra94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Well Singaporean never treat outsider like a human. They are so racist to the max that they looks at other like a dirt

    • @janicealacar4964
      @janicealacar4964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Noda Megumi you're so right, me and my sister experienced it first hand.

    • @ishudshutup
      @ishudshutup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uh, no it's not a human right to use a phone omfg, seriously?

    • @runninginsept
      @runninginsept 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The irony is that the very concept of domestic helpers as is currently being practised in Singapore is akin to modern day slavery. Domestic helpers are some of the least protected segments of the community, which explains our appalling rates of employee abuse. Yet, instead of applying widespread reform, we only choose to pay heed as and when.

    • @jameshubert6103
      @jameshubert6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phones are not human rights

  • @MrBrentanos
    @MrBrentanos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    This docu is so tone deaf and discriminatory. Disgusting

    • @dinil5566
      @dinil5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah don't worry. They will delete your comments like they deleted my 5 comments..lol. this is the first time in seeing a media with no backbone or empathy.

    • @MrBrentanos
      @MrBrentanos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dinil5566 at least we know they're not ignoring our comments. Haha

    • @jepox1201
      @jepox1201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed

    • @thephilippinesforus
      @thephilippinesforus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ☑️

    • @NeyDogg
      @NeyDogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Disgusting I expect nothing less from the Singaporean government.

  • @martinamartins9595
    @martinamartins9595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    when you are so bored. Maybe I will do the same..😂😂
    Seriously. Imagine working inside a house, no one to talk, everyday..

    • @pqcherii
      @pqcherii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They socially communicating tho. Try to think for them as a human.

    • @shirleywong4333
      @shirleywong4333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      most ppl don't treat maids nicely for sure . if maid female or male does well job .why restrict them phones . obviously they aren't communicated with as a human

    • @jaennaloujes9651
      @jaennaloujes9651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shirleywong4333 that is a fair humane observation.

    • @femmefatale1456
      @femmefatale1456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      look at the face of that reporter she looks like an old hag witch

  • @happyleaf9635
    @happyleaf9635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    The maid’s English pronunciation and articulation is better than a lot of the employers.

    • @wish6150
      @wish6150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Mainly filipinos

    • @meemyra94
      @meemyra94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wish6150 So what's ur point? Chinese have privilege to cannot speak english?

    • @wish6150
      @wish6150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@meemyra94 i think my point is very clear and that comment of urs isnt necessary.

    • @shirleywong4333
      @shirleywong4333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      11pm geez that's unfair . maid isn't servant

    • @Aya-bk5zv
      @Aya-bk5zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      should i say, better than the host as well 😂

  • @m0chik1tty
    @m0chik1tty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    cna: "i've found that severe data breachesare possible when helpers use their cellphone"
    also cna: *exposes exact house address*

    • @dinil5566
      @dinil5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Logic level 9999

  • @jameshardy9564
    @jameshardy9564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +842

    domestic helpers can't use a phone?
    what about those teens/kids using their phone and post on TikTok and I believe I can tract down their address the same way u does it LOL

    • @johscarlo9840
      @johscarlo9840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Track*

    • @clxy3416
      @clxy3416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Everyone can definitely use their phone. Domestic helpers are humans too, they need some entertainment as well. But there is a difference between educating your child and educating your domestic helper that you hired. Parents can easily educate and discipline their child if they have leaked any personal info or did something wrong. And they are kids, they are young and naive. On the other hand, it is not easy to educate or discipline a domestic helper. Number 1, they are adults they should have known better. Number 2, its a relationship between an employer and an employee. And usually what does an employer do when the employee does something wrong? Scold right? Like your boss scolding you for not submitting something in on time. But they are just maids and they live in our houses. We don't want to scold them. Cause the relationship will be ruined, they might get mad or beh song or they dont do their work. This happened to my aunt, she did not scold her domestic helper just kinda told her off (not in a angry way tho) then the maid went to abuse her 6yo son for a month and she decided to fired her

    • @sharkyboi5158
      @sharkyboi5158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Parents give permission. Everything is about permission.

    • @chunjie01
      @chunjie01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There are already articles saying that tiktok is not safe for kids especially those under 12. Parents should definitely monitor the child's phone in case of any unsafe content.

    • @sydneygirl1664
      @sydneygirl1664 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got saw

  • @annabelleclaridad7360
    @annabelleclaridad7360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I work as,a,maid in Singapore for 5 year's and my employer allow me to used smart phone allow us to take photos with the kids but I never attempt to post online even a photo near my employer house because I know the danger of that, now I'm working in Taiwan at same job and at first I dont use phone but at the end they allow me but same thing I protect my employer identity so I don't post any pictures near my employer house I only post photo in social media if like we're on vication but I do when I get back home, and not include any of my employer family member, because I respect them.

    • @dinil5566
      @dinil5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This video is just b.s privileged ass propaganda. I'm not even a Singaporean but I feel ashamed of people like these so makes such videos thinking this is the biggest issue of all.

    • @sdqsdq6274
      @sdqsdq6274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not everyone is smart as you

  • @slaiyfershin
    @slaiyfershin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    The irony is that CNA has on many occasions revealed the block, unit numbers and schools of people in their documentaries....

    • @abstractproductionz5734
      @abstractproductionz5734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      slaiyfershin even in this they’re basically showing people how easy it is to track them and showing the clients exact location 😂 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @pho3810
      @pho3810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      slaiyfershin exactly...

    • @teacherjennifersandoval8301
      @teacherjennifersandoval8301 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @marsiling
      @marsiling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      make sense...

    • @seaziell
      @seaziell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s the “permission” that changes everything.

  • @seaziell
    @seaziell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    CNA TP: Domestic Helpers are exposing employers information
    Also CNA TP: Exposes EXACT employer’s house
    😂😂

  • @gerlinplays1806
    @gerlinplays1806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    When CNA runs out of ideas..

  • @neximin3256
    @neximin3256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    Not gonna lie, it's rude for them to track them down and even exposing where they live even further, that's very rude.

    • @rabtehdummy2052
      @rabtehdummy2052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Agreed. It was extremely unnecessary to show everything on camera.

    • @yagamisanlse
      @yagamisanlse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is how scammers and blackmailer gets information
      Yes it might be rude
      But they are showing what are the after math if information are shared to the wrong person

    • @vsmh96
      @vsmh96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I think it's more scary than rude or disrespectful. If she could work out the location with her limited tech skills, imagine a stalker with better capabilities

    • @marsiling
      @marsiling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are correct.

    • @asuner333
      @asuner333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that is true even when they expose the front gate and knocking on the door
      but they also dont understand y privacy is so important
      thats y i dont have tik tok

  • @RachaelChenMsRachieboo
    @RachaelChenMsRachieboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    I’m disappointed in you CNA. Seriously? Helpers cannot use phones or social media? They are not slaves or pets. Ridiculous.

    • @bobprim5958
      @bobprim5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rachael C Honestly, just about everyone replying here have a heart of stone. They think Slaves don’t deserve to have any fun.

    • @RachaelChenMsRachieboo
      @RachaelChenMsRachieboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bobprim5958 That's not what I meant. I guess we used that word too loosely. EVERYONE deserves their right to have fun esp using their own hps for leisure or to contact their loved ones. Sorry you took it the wrong way and honestly there should not be any "slaves" in this day and age and if there are, my heart goes out to them. It's horribly unacceptable.

    • @ricelamarille6774
      @ricelamarille6774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rachael C Not to be a beyotch but Bob was agreeing with your initial comment. Just saying.😁

    • @RachaelChenMsRachieboo
      @RachaelChenMsRachieboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricel Amarille lol yeah I was a little confused but it could mean both ways. Good to know 😅

    • @RefialMizan
      @RefialMizan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rachael C same here. So so dissapointed with CNA. A content to be watch nationful hopefully worldwide, contain only poor domestic helper’s right to be fully controlled by the rich after a salary that is just enough and will never make them rich.

  • @marikitliwayway6703
    @marikitliwayway6703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    You can clearly see how domestic helpers are perceived like criminals when in reality these people are just having fun
    May I remind that you hired workers and not machines.
    This is sad.

  • @quelcruz8586
    @quelcruz8586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    To the reporter how about run a story about rampant domestic helper abuse that happening daily.

    • @muzixinmix
      @muzixinmix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      isnt that a story we all know already?

    • @quelcruz8586
      @quelcruz8586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is , but I want to know her stand about it. If she will show that much interest ( to the point of stalking) and enthusiasm as well on the issue to give awareness and give empathy to at least lessen the burden & struggles of the helpers.

  • @pawpaw4386
    @pawpaw4386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    You stalked someone's social media to prove a point 🤦‍♀️

    • @glimpseofmaiyyah
      @glimpseofmaiyyah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr and ppl is not rly convinced

    • @marsiling
      @marsiling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how smart, right? LOL!

    • @RajeshRavindranathan
      @RajeshRavindranathan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      These idiots don't understand the definition of hypocrisy. As if these employers don't use their mobile phones for personal use when they are in the office. Ban them from having it and give them the taste of their own medicine.

    • @CT--qj2ws
      @CT--qj2ws 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RajeshRavindranathan Using phones is one thing, possibly giving out info on employers houses is another. Those tik toks that they take are literally giving info on where they live, how many they live with and what time the house is usually empty (scammers will look out for this!) Yes it is cruel if they restrict use for no reason. I don't get how people can get confused between the two.

    • @RajeshRavindranathan
      @RajeshRavindranathan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@CT--qj2ws , Yeah scammers are going to look where small kids live? You ok? Merely taking out the kids outside can attract pedophiles, so stop taking the kids outside as well? One can do whatever they want to feel safe but that does not include the right to impinge the rights of others. I don't know how people don't understand that simple rule.

  • @spiderliliez
    @spiderliliez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    They're free to have fun, but employers and employees should talk about it, and have an understanding on what's acceptable and not based on rights, ethics, and privacy. Taking videos with the kids' face exposed to the public is a no-no. Things like that should be talked about.

    • @daphneg5712
      @daphneg5712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see so many ugly kid faces on social media. Let's just say ban them all and spare people who do not want to see them in the first place!

  • @lookersTV1
    @lookersTV1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The best idea and solution is don't get helpers. Simple crystal solution.

  • @addisonsmith3931
    @addisonsmith3931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    If we’re talking about vulnerability, aren’t everything else as vulnerable?
    Stalking can be done in so many levels, or am I missing the point here?
    This is absurd and exaggerated.

  • @akhenderson5066
    @akhenderson5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Well... They're human just like us..

    • @fioneu373
      @fioneu373 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they are here to work not make tik toks Am not trying to be mean I mean u can let them play their phone but stalkers can find where they live because they show their house and stuff

    • @user-or1yq3op5r
      @user-or1yq3op5r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they are low quality races

    • @nicholas919cleare
      @nicholas919cleare 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slavery

  • @jazzfranco2064
    @jazzfranco2064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Employer: no phone allowed
    Helper: you should hire a robot

    • @daphneg5712
      @daphneg5712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, then please surrender your phone to your boss when you work too.

  • @kinglau66
    @kinglau66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Why domestic helpers? Children is one of the main user of tiktok and other social media ...

  • @michellebronco4275
    @michellebronco4275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This video basically shows u how to stalk someone on TikTok

  • @saumyadeva3076
    @saumyadeva3076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This is a kind of lesson for everyone. Specially younger generation not just for domestic helpers 😉

  • @ualuuanie
    @ualuuanie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My house keeper has hers on her 24/7 but my wife and I don't mind as long as she finish her daily chores. Mostly she is talking with her mother and aunt in Indonesia. 1 time she was on it for nearly 3hrs with her mom teaching her step by step how to cook Rangdan.

    • @vickypolonio9777
      @vickypolonio9777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right, it is about work done not treating helpers as slave!

  • @shinobi650
    @shinobi650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    the privileged class and their entitlement issues...(ー_ー)

    • @GAEUL1985
      @GAEUL1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I think this sentence is very dense. Would you be happy if your domestic helper makes fun of your kid or sick grandparent on tiktok? Come on. Be fair in your statement. Not everyone is privileged but some of us really have no choice. We have to work and we have someone sick or young at home.

    • @erictheviking
      @erictheviking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8:20 typical kiasu singaporeans

    • @slaiyfershin
      @slaiyfershin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, the underprivileged class and their entitlement issues (to phones).

    • @Amanda-rh9vb
      @Amanda-rh9vb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@GAEUL1985 " Would you be happy if your domestic helper"
      Just shut up already.

    • @GAEUL1985
      @GAEUL1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amanda Patrick I hope one day things don’t happen to you and your family. :) And I certainly hope you’ll never ever need a domestic helper and even if you do, I pray so very hard for you to get a good one that doesn’t put you and your loved ones in jeopardy. :) I can shut up but being rude on social media doesn’t make you a better person in real life. I will now “shut up” and go do my own stuff. Have a nice life! 🖐

  • @triggerwarning7662
    @triggerwarning7662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Now do a documentary where you work as a maid for a month.

    • @daphneg5712
      @daphneg5712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good one! Let Diana Ser clean toilets, vomit and poo please!

  • @ameera.m2936
    @ameera.m2936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    I’m not Singaporean so maybe I don’t understand but aren’t they human too?? Why can’t they use their phones though?

    • @taufikdayah
      @taufikdayah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Cuz some helpers' tik tok vids are with children. Nasty people could track down the location and easily kidnap the child..

    • @slaiyfershin
      @slaiyfershin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Don't forget this is a 24/7 job. Not all maids are professional enough to put their phones away and not be distracted by it. If they actually were mature they wouldn't be on Tik Tok in the first place.

    • @meemyra94
      @meemyra94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@slaiyfershin if the parents is mature enough then why dont take care of their own children. What!? Dont even know how to do chores?? Only know how to spread legs on the bed and make kids like a prostitute

    • @2213s
      @2213s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Noda Megumi the parents might not have enough time to take care of their children or their parents therefore they hire these helpers.

    • @crystalcat4482
      @crystalcat4482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noda Megumi the parents may be working so yeah

  • @jasmine4777
    @jasmine4777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Let them be human, if you are so adamant about imprisoning them, don’t hire them. They are there to do their jobs, if they do their job, great. If not, hire a new one or don’t hire help.

    • @Kunnot641
      @Kunnot641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, also adamant on sentencing them to death

  • @Aya-bk5zv
    @Aya-bk5zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    i can't believe how serious is this matter in Singapore. i am a caregiver here in Taiwan and I can freely use my phone, i don't use tiktok but i dont believe mobile phones restrictions should strictly be imposed. it's already 2020 and it's part of our life line as you said... it's just a matter of mutual agreement between the employer and employee... with mutual respect.

  • @zo3478
    @zo3478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Why can't they post videos and use phones? These are rules for primary school kids not for grown adults.

    • @weeting6732
      @weeting6732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Zachary Osman you will understand how hard it is to control a maid not to get spoiled in your hand.

    • @estelle8757
      @estelle8757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Posting videos, the maid may accodentally leak info. Of where they stay. Safety reasons. They can use phones but it shldnt distract them from work. I mean... they r being paid to help employer, not to just us ephone either way.

    • @meemyra94
      @meemyra94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@estelle8757 all the children that already have privilege with mobile phone when they are still underage also can leak their information on internet especially teenagers as they crave attention and they dont have brain yet like their parents that allow phone at young age

  • @benny5373
    @benny5373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That reporter was really creepy!😱
    and that make me sick😵😷

  • @arvenjaylariosa2582
    @arvenjaylariosa2582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    These maids are just doing what they think to ease the homesickness. There is no wrong with it.

  • @dawnn2269
    @dawnn2269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Contrary to some sentiments towards this series, i feel that this was well produced and showed multiple POVs and ultimately allowed the viewers to choose what they think about it. I feel that employers should be more understanding to their homesickness and maybe allow them a 1 hour session at an earlier timing like 5-7pm to call their families. It can be a major concern when your child’s videos are shared online but banning the only connection the FDW has to their families seems cruel to me

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    My maid became an internet sensation in her country too....

  • @emmttraveler119
    @emmttraveler119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    This documentary is subjective, why focus on domestic helpers only mah? this is bodoh i mean it should not be confined to domestic workers if the cyber security or privacy is concerned.

    • @rizzaherradura7045
      @rizzaherradura7045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      How about those who works on office,they also used phones,they share data's also what's the difference? Oh I see because they are not MAID🤔

    • @emmttraveler119
      @emmttraveler119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i mean yes it is good that they tackled all the negative effects of this privacy issue thing related to domestic helpers. but why only focus on them? because of the family they exposing? Then don't hire one if we really care for our privacy lah they also have their rights you know. they aren't an object or a robot that can be dictated tho.

    • @jayantiiva3681
      @jayantiiva3681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rizzaherradura7045 I agree with u😁

  • @studio1407
    @studio1407 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Having traveled all over Asia, this is of the reasons why Singapore is at the bottom of my favorite places. Targeting specifically the foreign domestic helpers for more government restrictions instead of just leaving it to the employers who might or might not care. Most people in Singapore do post on social media including employers which exposes info just as much as everyone else. Let the employers decide if they want cell phone usage at work or not. This segment pretty much showed how ignorant and biased some Singaporeans are including the producers/host of this segment.

    • @drakes4625
      @drakes4625 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes, its like these people think domestic helpers are their slaves. So much entitlement because they have $$$

    • @felipeo8768
      @felipeo8768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agree. I've lived in a few places in Asia and nothing was worse than Singapore in terms of human behaviour. They are insanely arrogant for no apparent reason and they do like their dictatorship, don't they ...

  • @eddiejltan
    @eddiejltan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I am more concerned about why some of them are using their phones in this way. Some of this phone use is quite unhealthy. Does it stem from unmet needs? Loneliness? Repression? Need an avenue to feel empowered? Employers need to also care for the well-being of their helpers.

    • @bruisedlee3406
      @bruisedlee3406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eddie Tan - I saw your wife doing the same, why not ask her? Or you don’t even know what she’s doing while you’re gone. Track her down like what cna did.

    • @dinil5566
      @dinil5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't really like tiktok. I don't use it and I'm 25. Everyone at my age uses it.
      BUT dude, people are different. You look definitely older than me and you haven't learned it? Majority of them like using these apps. So that means you are the weird one lol. Includes me too but I don't have a problem with others using it. I don't really think they are all mental.

    • @gambttm4u
      @gambttm4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re concerned about what kind of phone usage? Dancing while on Tik Tok? Or watching porn? YOU don’t watch porn? Empowerment? Of what? To behave like a human? This is a problem in Singapore? Dang, you guys really must be so BORED, that you need to look into your help’s social medias.🤔

  • @mindislife
    @mindislife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So what are you gonna do when you find out which block she lives in? You got the keys? You know which unit? You know what valuables are in the apartment? Anyone posting on facebook and instagram can also expose themselves and their location.

  • @multidimensional_holographer
    @multidimensional_holographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's fascinating how the locals have developed an air of superiority. Their country is basically the Bahamas of Southeast Asia.

  • @emptyangel
    @emptyangel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    foreign worker rights in singapore still have a long way to go it seems... imagine if your workplace had the same rules? would you still want to work there?

    • @Amanda-rh9vb
      @Amanda-rh9vb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rizzaherradura7045 What?

  • @pinoyadulting1018
    @pinoyadulting1018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I hope there are clear contract that protects both employee and employer rights set by each country and parties. Human rights should be applied equaly and without bias. Otherwise stop this modern day slavery.

  • @mvsa3408
    @mvsa3408 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The more Singaporean ''reports'' I see, the more I am sure I would never live in Singapore. Not letting a person free access to the internet is like not allowing them access to books and education. Seems like a very classist societal structure and it's just easier to have servants who are subservient and subhuman. Absolutely disgusting, couldn't even finish the video.

  • @bobprim5958
    @bobprim5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I like how you refer to them as ‘Maids’. You brought this issue up to make the rest of the rich employers aware that these lowly maids should be held down to lower standards. I like how you brought their ‘employers’ together to find out what they would do to ‘manage’ these domestic workers. Yes, find out how to make life more miserable for them, for the buck well spent! You seem to think that these maids have no right to be happy in their jobs.
    Security implications caused by maids! What about other singaporeans? Really? Did somebody die because a maid posted a fun clip on TikTok? How did you know that they were never shot on their own time? You are slave drivers with underpaid maids who you expect to work 24/7. Racists.

    • @happyfeet5229
      @happyfeet5229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Content about helpers are most save things to bring up. Helpers wont complaint one

  • @lettymagsino7567
    @lettymagsino7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We are OFW sacrifices ourself to earn to support our family our phone is only our companion to manage the homesickness. employer pay us for our services with them but it doesnt mean they own our whole humanity .

  • @vilAvain
    @vilAvain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    To the media intern/manager/person that sees this, I hope you and your higher ups understand how much in bad taste this short docu was. I hope you realise and acknowledge that foreign workers are humans too. And I hope you realise how sheltered and privileged your whole life has been. Because this whole comment section is digging one ginormous hole for you. And youre just gonna keep deleting it, because just like this video your gonna ignore every single problematic aspects of it.

  • @susanwang914
    @susanwang914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When i saw this news,i feel like back to 2009 in Singapore without Mobile phone for 5 month

  • @jiayinhoon5473
    @jiayinhoon5473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As a employer we have no right to intervene to their rights ,so as long as they are doing their job let's stop gossiping about them, such a bullshit to came across with them...

  • @boyezra3497
    @boyezra3497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The editing trying to cover their ID are so bad lmao

  • @banegrey115
    @banegrey115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sounds like typical a Asian mom.
    "Child gets sick"
    *it's that bloody phone!*

  • @yukisuperstylish
    @yukisuperstylish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    If you saw your kids and your home online without your permission you would understand, otherwise you would never understand this concern

    • @RajeshRavindranathan
      @RajeshRavindranathan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are the kind of people who would have protested the abolishment of slavery if this was 300 years ago. They too believed that slaves should not be free and denying them the rights to be human was your right and those who disagreed don't understand your position.

    • @juliejoute1321
      @juliejoute1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shame shame

    • @lindsey9460
      @lindsey9460 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      people are just complaining, this is about safety and security of others.And also security of the workers as well.These people don't understand,once your business is out there it can be very damaging.These days you don't have to be FBI to track someone, just check their social media.

    • @31330496RachelYang
      @31330496RachelYang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RajeshRavindranathan lol so true, the twist to the story is finding out the data breach comes from the videos posted by the kids or the new to Facebook elderly parents hahahaha,
      Data breach is not a domestic helper problem, it is everyone's problem, if it is your elderly parents posting these videos what would u do? Communicate and not take away their phones, we are all adults, we don't act like North Korea out of fear

    • @31330496RachelYang
      @31330496RachelYang 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rajesh Ravindranathan lol so true, the twist to the story is finding out the data breach comes from the videos posted by the kids or the new to Facebook elderly parents hahahaha,
      Data breach is not a domestic helper problem, it is everyone's problem, if it is your elderly parents posting these videos what would u do? Communicate and not take away their phones, we are all adults, we don't act like North Korea out of fear

  • @radioclash84
    @radioclash84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This woman sounds so evil. She has that tone to her voice like she thinks she is above them. F you let them use their phones. What is this? 1920?

    • @ishudshutup
      @ishudshutup 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get with the program, there's plenty of jobs that restrict phone usage during work hours.

    • @marsiling
      @marsiling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you are correct. from the very start, you already know what she's up to. even when she was laughing, it was very fake.

  • @kehidupankanada
    @kehidupankanada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Haha I often dun see TikTok but I find it humorous in such a way behind employers back. Who knows what bad happen come what may

  • @ichymcgee2315
    @ichymcgee2315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They are not suppose to be slaves!

  • @pocarisweet8665
    @pocarisweet8665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    my helper always uses her phone after she’s done doing everything

    • @estherlylianna278
      @estherlylianna278 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      pocarisweet good

    • @trafficmonsoonacademy562
      @trafficmonsoonacademy562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you better treat her right. Because you may need her testimony and approval on Judgement Day if God sees her more superior (in deeds) than you and will only let you "through" by your helper's approval. :)

  • @Kei-oy9fc
    @Kei-oy9fc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Not cool man. You just exposed their home's location to everyone

    • @overthet0p
      @overthet0p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is already exposed online. I am sure TP had gotten consent prior to broadcasting this.

  • @headachejr
    @headachejr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Why narrow down on helpers? Data breach, revealing ones home location, etc. all internet use comes with the risks; why not make documentary about mitigating risks to make it safer for everyone else? We want to promote a equitable society yet this documentary subliminally preach otherwise. Half a star, no foodking good 😐😐

  • @maureenmee9775
    @maureenmee9775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nah! you're going too far lady!

  • @TeaCup1940
    @TeaCup1940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is disgusting that those helpers are taking videos and posting them to TikTok and social media in a house that is not theirs, with children that are not theirs and then even doing inmoral and disgusting dances that shows how unprofessional they are. Would you allow an employee to do such things at a school or an office? Yes they should be able to use their phone to contact their family and friends or to look up something online or to send an e-mail and do a banking transaction, but not to take videos or pictures inside the employers home and post them on social media. I think not providing wifi is a good start. They did not mention it, but putting secret cameras and microphones would help to supervise what they are doing.

  • @MissZinatul31
    @MissZinatul31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    So if normal people did that (showing the block numbers are okay) but for domestic helpers, it is bad? Seriously? What is the difference? Human are still human.

    • @clxy3416
      @clxy3416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The difference is that the domestic helpers do not own the place that they are living in and majority of the employers do not consent to this/aware of their domestic helpers revealing personal information/information about where they live, putting themselves and their family at risk.

    • @clxy3416
      @clxy3416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Plus, they are not really well educated in this area. They might not know that revealing bits of info here and there will cause so much harm and I think people who are on tiktok and they know the potential risk of it, will not stupidly reveal info about them (like where they live, personal info etc)

    • @ducc5526
      @ducc5526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clxy3416 kids leh?

    • @clxy3416
      @clxy3416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ducc5526 I've replied to someone else's comment regarding to kids already. So i'll just copy and paste here.
      Everyone can definitely use their phone. Domestic helpers are humans too, they need some entertainment as well. But there is a difference between educating your child and educating your domestic helper that you hired. Parents can easily educate and discipline their child if they have leaked any personal info or did something wrong. And they are kids, they are young and naive. On the other hand, it is not easy to educate or discipline a domestic helper. Number 1, they are adults they should have known better. Number 2, its a relationship between an employer and an employee. And usually what does an employer do when the employee does something wrong? Scold right? Like your boss scolding you for not submitting something in on time. But they are just maids and they live in our houses. We don't want to scold them. Cause the relationship will be ruined, they might get mad or beh song or they dont do their work. This happened to my aunt, she did not scold her domestic helper just kinda told her off (not in a angry way tho) then the maid went to abuse her 6yo son for a month and she decided to fire her

    • @weeting6732
      @weeting6732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darling Maybe probably you have never own a maid before so you have no idea

  • @jrukawa11
    @jrukawa11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    How about salaried workers doing the same at their office or workplace?

  • @jgroenveld1268
    @jgroenveld1268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The employers hired maids so they (employers) could spend more time on their phones.

  • @jangtv6200
    @jangtv6200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    No need to hire maid lah.. so much complain.. jst beacause you hire maid, you also control their life😡

  • @smnr5484
    @smnr5484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No one HAS NO right to go trough another persons phone you might be the boss but it’s not an excuse to take her phone from her hands

  • @Bubbletyy
    @Bubbletyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    That lady is so busy body,.🥴 i dont wanna be friends with her under any circumstances😂

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is plain Disgusting. You didn’t cover How you treated these DMs. These are people, in a foreign country. If you’re going to treat them as Slaves, go fckn do the chores don’t be codependent on their help! My gooood! I can’t believe this episode aired. And these are the reasons why there’s racism.

  • @daboxjova4421
    @daboxjova4421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before I work in Singapore... My boss didn't give holiday, even not allowed me to go out from the house, when they're go out, they locked me from outside ...
    Not allowed to have cellphone, they only let me call my parents 5 menit in a month, using they phone... I only work until 1,5 years....
    I LOVE WORKING IN HONG KONG more..
    The employers here is so kindy....
    Now I'm going 10 years work in 1 employer...😊😊😊😊

    • @PeterBeckenbauer
      @PeterBeckenbauer ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are you from, if i may ask you?

    • @daboxjova4421
      @daboxjova4421 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeterBeckenbauer I'm from Indonesia

  • @RonLarhz
    @RonLarhz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You can't pry or withhold their phones you can however set rules and boundaries.
    Btw, so funny, so cna further reveal the info by not blurring more.

    • @mariamemilio7951
      @mariamemilio7951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RonLarhz I thought that already plagiarism

  • @skyOH7
    @skyOH7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I wonder how the employer's would feel if they were in the maids position.

    • @dadidu
      @dadidu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They prolly do the same...

  • @Joelle0821
    @Joelle0821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I think that's called stalking

  • @allesor76
    @allesor76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Imagine ur everyday life just evolved inside thier house and without phone, that's so boring.

  • @cindymananzalamartinez6679
    @cindymananzalamartinez6679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What does this got to do with their being domestic helpers? Does Singapore think that they're less than humans, so they are not allowed phones and internet access? Doesn't everyone else use Tiktok, regardless of their profession? You can do better, CNA.
    BTW, you also sometimes compromise the location of your interviewees. So, double standard much?

    • @daphneg5712
      @daphneg5712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand your point, but a lot of people are not condescending idiots - only masses which this video appeals to.

  • @theclausenvlogs
    @theclausenvlogs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How about those employers and their kids used their phones and posted on social media? Are they exempted for those danger things that could happen in their homes? Is it only maid's phone can cause danger in the house by posting in social media?
    This is discriminating the maids around the globe.

  • @93hothead
    @93hothead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Anyone in the comments complaining about the maid having a phone is not watching or listening to the video.
    It is not about them owning the phone, it is what they do with it.
    When you are on the job your employers tell you to stop using your phones too regardless of the job.

  • @lornskiii
    @lornskiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Communication is the key. Lay down the concerns of both side and compromise thus respecting each other’s right.

  • @pepingtam5902
    @pepingtam5902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These workers are the modern day slaves who work 24/7. Some are lucky to have 1-2 days off a month. Most of them are abused by their employer - physically or mentally.

  • @kingdomriverz2658
    @kingdomriverz2658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Buzybody 🙄mobile phone is personal belonging, as long as they are doing thier chores. So what is your essue about it.

  • @robloxianalamat1019
    @robloxianalamat1019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow wtf that reporter legit just started to use broken English and some weird ass accent while talking to the maids

    • @MiaDjojowasitoMalik
      @MiaDjojowasitoMalik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just going to say how condescending she was at 16:06

    • @christinafidance340
      @christinafidance340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I HATE when people do that!! It’s almost like they’re mocking them. I live in the US and I hear people doing it when speaking to Mexican-Americans. They’ll change their voice to speak in a horrible fake ass accent and sound childlike. I’m not even sure people are aware they’re doing it! And it is UNBELIEVABLY condescending!!!

  • @immortal2326
    @immortal2326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is Singapore we are talking about. Singaporean are renowned in mistreating their helpers ( no racism intended) . Hmmm, I bet she has slave too🤪. Not all employers, however most Singaporean treat their helpers like slave. I work occasionally with foreign TV networks . She didn’t go to the location of the video without setting it up first. Isn’t that easy to just walk- in randomly. Before the shoot, everything is setup by the show segment producer. This story could take weeks to set up, to find a subject. To me, it’s fine.. as long as they finished their job and work happily but of course if they’re not doing anything besides using their phones all day long, that’s a different story.

    • @courageousteen1734
      @courageousteen1734 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Immortal! the fact that the domestic helper is one of the hidden engine of thier economy.

  • @multidimensional_holographer
    @multidimensional_holographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My heart goes out to the families of poor domestic helpers. It's a de-humanizing profession as seen in this video. I hope they save enough money to avail a better livelihood.

  • @johantan5305
    @johantan5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    *it's simple...☝ if u don't want to deal with this kind of stupidity, don't hire maid! take care of your home by yourself!*

    • @sharkyboi5158
      @sharkyboi5158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You think so simple? I think u drop this 🧠

    • @weeting6732
      @weeting6732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I need maids cause I just have too much money to spend darling ahhahaha

  • @iloveapple3106
    @iloveapple3106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Those greedy employers don't give enough foods to their maids..

  • @babalu5252
    @babalu5252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's wrong if they are using phones?It's only their way to ease their boredom and homesickness.

  • @tikaslp7434
    @tikaslp7434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had a part time job experience as a housekeeper while I was a student. That was a meaningful experience and gave me some understanding on being a maid. They get stressed out at times too.. If this is their way of destress, I reckon respect this need. But firstly, treat them respectfully. Yes, be vigilant (don't keep jewellery and stacks of money at home). Teach them how important your privacy is. So they hopefully would be thoughtful when recording videos (by not including building numbers, address, employers' faces / put stickers over these details; since they r using Tik Tok anyway). If phone is the only entertainment they have, might wanna introduce other types of suitable activities they can do during their free time.

  • @dadidu
    @dadidu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If u dun trust them then dun employ them. Simple...

  • @dev.tony2023
    @dev.tony2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So your problem is that they have a life and they are trying to happy? Got cha...

  • @matagiolotigilau3861
    @matagiolotigilau3861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, in the U.S. you would be guilty of stalking.

  • @Gary-cc8oe
    @Gary-cc8oe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I'm employer, I let them watch porn, be human dude..

    • @haarr3494
      @haarr3494 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gary Hahaha then never do blue film with them ah

    • @jakefromstatefarm7363
      @jakefromstatefarm7363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If every employer is like you we will be living in 2070

    • @Noeman2009
      @Noeman2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha. How do you know they watch porn?

    • @librsuriah6984
      @librsuriah6984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Noeman2009 hahaha omg.....

    • @athisyaathisya7732
      @athisyaathisya7732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U good employer

  • @traceyantory5217
    @traceyantory5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This video disgusts me. Why are they making the workers out like slaves??? Phone restrictions?!? Really?!

  • @elivaipheielivaiphei1973
    @elivaipheielivaiphei1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maid also can pain..can tire..but employer don't care......employer want to take care children properly but employer don't take care properly maid..why ???????employer want take care properly children she also need to take care properly maid........ example... someone don't love you..no nice to you ..you also nice for him/her?????

  • @dirannerus8408
    @dirannerus8408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Talking point.. what and how this makes it to your news investigation agenda. How you people manage to allocate Budget for this segment baffles me.

  • @avayu2289
    @avayu2289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Only hire bonded housekeeping personnel part time on weekly basis. Live ins are really complicated!

  • @princesslelaka1844
    @princesslelaka1844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I honestly dont get this. Domestic workers are human just like u. I understand that they may share a little bit too much about ur own private lofe without ur knowledge however thy are HUMAN. I am pretty sure that where u work they allow cellphones.
    In saudi phones were taken away from them to abuse them. I dont really dont get this documentary.

  • @natalierenfrow6016
    @natalierenfrow6016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    They are workers not prisoners. They can do whatever they want during their free time and with their phones

  • @thephilippinesforus
    @thephilippinesforus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad the comments section took care of what I thought. Ridiculous investigation. What a waste of time.

  • @KMKKM007
    @KMKKM007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pay cheap labour, expect them to work like in labour camps. They are human beings also.

    • @sweetlove8855
      @sweetlove8855 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @joenilynmalaya4425
      @joenilynmalaya4425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Long time work , how many hours helpers work do they have time to hold the phone yes , 11 pm , how they can contact there family at that time , instead of taking about the phone , talk about how they can lessen there hours of works they have time for thereselves , how about featuring how was the life of a domestic helpers inside the house of her employer , helpers are humans not a robot .

    • @nicholas919cleare
      @nicholas919cleare 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slavery