Loving these tires. I’ve had them in dry dusty, dirt surfing chunk, to post rain hero dirt and they are money as money gets 👊🏻👊🏻 I’ll add that I USED to run that same Maxxis combo on everything. Now not so much. FYI for anyone interested, I’m racing these on an E Bike in an enduro series. Haven’t failed once 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🔥❤️
It does remind me of a DHR. I'm like you, I try others then seem to make my way back to Maxxis. I'm giving WTB a try after several years away from them. I'm going to keep these Versus tires on my radar after the WTB's wear out. Great video as always Rob!
I've run these for about 4 months no problem. Durable and grip well. I feel like my Assegai cornered a bit better and the Dissector rear rolled a bit better, but the Dissector tread wears out so fast and costs $$$. That said, I've had zero problems riding through sharp rock gardens, loose dirt and DG. Tread is still looking good whereas the Dissector (soft) was all tore up on the same terrain. The yeti turquoise is a nice touch as well. Glad we have worthy options. Should help being prices down. Cost as much as some moto or car tires. No joke.
I've really liked the pair of trail casing 27.5s i've been running for the last year. Awesome replacements for the stock tires I had on my GT. When they wear out I'll get the blue splatter for the rear and black for the front to match my frame & forks.
Please do support his new business. As someone whos launched a couple of his own products, i cant tell you how hard it is. Every single sale becomes so helpful and encouraging.
Currently listening to this b1ker bar podcast as we speak! Definitely might have to give these tires a try when mine wear out. It was definitely cool seeing them in person at sedona mtb fest!
Just preordered the blue splatter 27.5 and I'm excited to try these out on my stumpjumper! Thanks to you and Versus for the discount code, definitely a nice bonus. 😊
I stopped been a Maxis Guy 15 years ago, since I discovered Schwalbe Nobby Nic. Also, Vittoria are impressive tires, also Specialized ones. Depends on the taste. We are blessed with many MANY great tires manufacturers.
I was running Minion 2.8’s and was tired of punctures and sidewall tears so I tried the WTB Vigilante Tough High grip and I have tossed Maxxis in the bin. The Vigilante is staying on the front of my bike and I’m experimenting with the Ranger and Trail Boss on the rear. WTB has a better casing than maxxis IMO
I almost bought some of these but then I found a good deal on Goodyear Newton tires. I haven't put them on yet, I just got them because I was worried about tire availability and prices. I'm almost certain they are made by Delium.
here's food for thought.. maxxis makes tires for rock crawling, mudding, and general Truck - off road use. they also make tires for side-by-sides, etc.. but you NEVER hear people fan-boying the maxxis brand for anything other than MTB. in the off-roading circles most people dont even give them the time of day... it's seriously a MTB fan club of people who prolly haven't tried a lot of the newer rubber available now. sure, maxxis was prolly a great choice 4 years ago, but there's wayyy to many good tires for the $50-70 range that are TOP TIER (looking at Conti, Hutchinson, Versus, Vittoria). i just set up my trail and enduro bikes both with kryptotal trail/enduro compound. not going back.
Those “accordion slits” on the side knobs are on the wrong side of the knob to provide any grip. The inner edge is what grabs, which is why the inner edge wears and not the outside.
It allows the knob to flex, but not in the mode you want. Sipes allow the inner edge to deform and grip, comprising the outer edge just lets the knob fold easier. Sipes are a better design for faster riding.
I like the Maxxis DHF, DHR and Recon tires in 29x2.6” on my Stan’s Baron and other i35mm rims by RF and WTB I have some i40mm rims too. I usually don’t run any tire less than 2.5” because I like wider tires for my loose over rocks steep trails where I ride. I agree that CushCore is a staple and use in all my wheels. When that new company comes up with wider tires I’ll be happy to try
I had 2.5's on my Tallboy before I put these on and I'll tell you even though I was worried about them being smaller it didn't end up being an issue. I think they may be a bit wider than a Maxxis 2.4 so maybe it was about the same as the Maxxis 2.5. Either way, I definitely had the same concern.
@@energ8t it depends on the person and what they prefer. Lots of people run 2.2-2.4” tires and will never think of marginal difference between marginally different specs.
We're working on it. The All-Mountains are super fast rolling, so they don't feel their weight. People have put them on XC bikes because the rolling speed + extra traction outweighs the weight penalty.
Hi there, I just heard about this tires and I'm very interested. May I know the actual width of the tire after yku install it ? Knob to knob millimeters measurements?
I don't have them on my bike anymore. Not because there was anything wrong with them, I just used them until they wore out and then tried something else. I was really happy with them. The owner of the company is really responsive and if you emailed him or sent a message on Insta, I'm sure he'd get back to you.
Great tyres, I have them, transitions well, roll well, great aide knob support, sideknobs are like a must tyre, but mid is fast rolling as a good allrounder, so I don't think I need mud tyres anymore.
I currently run 29x2.6 on my RM Instinct PP and 2.5 on my StumpJumper Expert. I am not sure about moving from a 2.6 to a 2.4, seems like a big change, has anyone here made that much of a move on a single bike before? How did it feel?
I went from 2.5 Maxxis to this 2.4 and I was really concerned that I wouldn't like it. I was surprised that it didn't bother me. In addition I do ride 2.6 on my Bronson, but that's a 27.5 wheel.
The tires are a true 2.4 & the accordion folds let them ride a little wider. They might feel a little less "floaty" than the 2.6 but it's going to roll WAY faster and feel a bit more sturdy.
I use the Park Tools one. It's crazy expensive, but the only one I could find that doesn't need to be clamped onto the valve. Here is a 90 second review I did on it: th-cam.com/video/ndLLhoEQBnM/w-d-xo.html
I will try and get away with EXO+ sometimes. But it seems like I mostly buy Double Down. I can't remember if this was during Covid and tires were limited.
You're just going to throw away bike parts like that?! I have ideas for those Maxxis tires, send em' my way! I really like the splatter of the Versus tires, those may be my next set of tires.
I still have the tires. Tires have been basically gold during all the covid supply chain stuff so there is no way I'd be getting rid of something with tread on it still!
@@versustires5494 I'm a pretty big weight-weenie though on most of my bikes, have anything in XC casing in the works? I loved your podcast on the B1KER BAR, cool to see a small company doing big things!
I was stoked with it. Hawes would give a little then grab. It was different than riding in the Tahoe Sand where you just feel like you are floating on a ski.
No, they were great. I just prefer a 2.5 and right now Versus is a small company and doesn't offer all the sizes. I really enjoyed them while I was running them. If you like 2.4, I wouldn't hesitate.
Maxxis is definitely not the king. Just one of the most known brands. I am sure there are better options out there and Versus seems to be one of them. I've not had good luck with Maxxis tyres, most had misaligned thread, a sin leg and right side did not match, knobs did not align with each other, some were even a bit wobbly, but most got very wobbly after 4-6 months, but when I saw cracks or quite rounded off knobs, it was a sign the bead would likely fail soon, I wore th ebead quit ebadly, once you see some rubber falling off or see the nylon bead, you need to stop using them or the tyre will blow off. So I always made sure to check, the thread had much more life in it, despite few cracks and rounded off knobs, but bead always was the first go. It's been like tha t with all of them. I used High Roller 2, Shorty, both in 2.30, 29er but now I use Michelin Wild Enduro 2.30, they made a huge difference, the transition was much better, alot smoother, felt perfect, so did the side knob stability, I could feel Maxxis flex and twist feel unstable, but not the Wild Enduro., this was on 62.5 deg head angle, and 23mm rims, now I have 30mm rims, which feels even smoother when turning, doing fakies, doing fakies(reversing and turning the bike) it's very noticible.
The cons with Michelin Wild Enduro the knobs crack, But will likely not be an issue. But Michelin has a great bead, it stays like new where as Maxxis would look like I took sandpaper to it in just a few months. I went for the sticky rubber on the front and less sticky on the rear. But it wears faster than regular compound from Maxxis. I've not tried versus yet. @@B1KER
Everything is more expensive nowadays. When I was younger I was pissed cuz a lift ticket in Tahoe was $40 and I didn’t even pay that much to ski in the Alps. Nowadays that same place is over $200 a day. 🤷♂️
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Hells yeah man, thanks for trying them out & for supporting a rider-owned brand! Glad you like 'em
Stoked to see where things go for you! 🤘
Will you be coming out with different sizes here soon? Other than the 2.4?
@@djsonfire0001 We're working on a wider version but with the supply madness it's still aways out.
LOVE IT! And I love the idea of supporting the small guy in this industry that has become overwhelmed with big companies
I definitely dig that too!
Loving these tires. I’ve had them in dry dusty, dirt surfing chunk, to post rain hero dirt and they are money as money gets 👊🏻👊🏻 I’ll add that I USED to run that same Maxxis combo on everything. Now not so much.
FYI for anyone interested, I’m racing these on an E Bike in an enduro series. Haven’t failed once 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🔥❤️
I believe it. I've definitely been super impressed with mine.
Thanks for the support!
Assegai and dhr II work so perfect for me, being broke I cant try to experiment right now. But im rooting for them to succed!!!
I understand. I liked the Assegai a lot but preferred it with an Aggressor on the back. If you decide to give Versus a shot, I'm sure you'd be stoked.
You should be proud!! Great effort mate. Thanks for sharing your journey. Love these videos. Keep up the hard work! Love from Wales, UK 🏴
Thanks bud
It does remind me of a DHR. I'm like you, I try others then seem to make my way back to Maxxis. I'm giving WTB a try after several years away from them. I'm going to keep these Versus tires on my radar after the WTB's wear out. Great video as always Rob!
Thanks man!
I've run these for about 4 months no problem. Durable and grip well. I feel like my Assegai cornered a bit better and the Dissector rear rolled a bit better, but the Dissector tread wears out so fast and costs $$$. That said, I've had zero problems riding through sharp rock gardens, loose dirt and DG. Tread is still looking good whereas the Dissector (soft) was all tore up on the same terrain. The yeti turquoise is a nice touch as well. Glad we have worthy options. Should help being prices down. Cost as much as some moto or car tires. No joke.
I was happy with them while I had them on my bike.
Glad you're digging them, thanks for the support!
"Don't hit the cactus 🌵" 😎👍🔥
That made me giggle too!
I've really liked the pair of trail casing 27.5s i've been running for the last year. Awesome replacements for the stock tires I had on my GT. When they wear out I'll get the blue splatter for the rear and black for the front to match my frame & forks.
Nice 🤘
Funny and informative. Thank you again for good content!
Thanks man!
Please do support his new business. As someone whos launched a couple of his own products, i cant tell you how hard it is. Every single sale becomes so helpful and encouraging.
For sure! He’s a great guy too. Definitely want to see him succeed.
Currently listening to this b1ker bar podcast as we speak! Definitely might have to give these tires a try when mine wear out. It was definitely cool seeing them in person at sedona mtb fest!
I really enjoyed talking with him on the podcast and at Sedona as well. Good dude. 🤘
Thanks for cruising by!
Love deity grips. On all my bikes. Now I gotta get some new rubber for the summer.
There ya go!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that makes that "setting the bead" face. 🤣
It's always a touch of fear. LOL!
Just preordered the blue splatter 27.5 and I'm excited to try these out on my stumpjumper! Thanks to you and Versus for the discount code, definitely a nice bonus. 😊
Right on! Stoked to hear your thoughts
Awesome video my man!
Thanks!
Nice video Rob. Very calm but engaging delivery. Makes me want to try a pair.
Right on 👍
Well done Robert, very informative. Nice edit!
Thanks
I bought a pair after your podcast. I ordered the blue and absolutely love them.
That’s awesome 👍
Rad, thanks for the support! Glad you're liking them!
Thanks for the support!
This was a brilliant video, listened to ur podcast with versus and thought it sounded sick but cool to see them in a video! 👍😎
Thanks man!
I stopped been a Maxis Guy 15 years ago, since I discovered Schwalbe Nobby Nic. Also, Vittoria are impressive tires, also Specialized ones. Depends on the taste. We are blessed with many MANY great tires manufacturers.
I like the Specialized Butcher/Eliminator combo
@@B1KER Nice.
Nice vid man. Happy to support the “small” guy. 🤙🏽ride on
Definitely
Thanks! What's scary is that I'm the runt of family at 6'3" / 260lbs!
Are they foldable bead? I noticed the shipping in full size box.
They have both. I ordered the ones that weren’t.
I was running Minion 2.8’s and was tired of punctures and sidewall tears so I tried the WTB Vigilante Tough High grip and I have tossed Maxxis in the bin. The Vigilante is staying on the front of my bike and I’m experimenting with the Ranger and Trail Boss on the rear. WTB has a better casing than maxxis IMO
Nice! I’ll have to check it out
I used the link and ordered a set. I will let you know what I think. Thanks for the review
Right on man, hope you enjoy them as much as I did!
Thanks for the support!
How'd they work?
Thanks for the review. btw, where are the trails you're riding in this vid?
All over the place. Mostly Auburn SRA, Mammoth Bar OHV, and Darrington.
Great video! It makes you wanna go buy some right away. Versus should make you marketing director 🤘🏽
Hahahaa, they were great tires. I definitely wouldn’t hesitate to buy them.
I liked the video and I'll look into these tires.
Also, your video editing skills are really good. The edits really keep the video interesting.
Always Rad watching your videos! Such solid insight. Having trouble using the B1KER code at checkout. Want these tires Bad. Thanks Man!
I'd send him an email using the contact form. I'm sure he'll square you away. versustires.com/pages/contact
Bob, thanks for the editing props. I'm always trying to do better.
@@B1KER Thanks Man! He did and I got a pair. Stoked!
You should check out *Delium Tires* haven't tried them myself but have heard they are good for the price
I’ll take a look
I almost bought some of these but then I found a good deal on Goodyear Newton tires. I haven't put them on yet, I just got them because I was worried about tire availability and prices. I'm almost certain they are made by Delium.
here's food for thought.. maxxis makes tires for rock crawling, mudding, and general Truck - off road use. they also make tires for side-by-sides, etc.. but you NEVER hear people fan-boying the maxxis brand for anything other than MTB. in the off-roading circles most people dont even give them the time of day... it's seriously a MTB fan club of people who prolly haven't tried a lot of the newer rubber available now. sure, maxxis was prolly a great choice 4 years ago, but there's wayyy to many good tires for the $50-70 range that are TOP TIER (looking at Conti, Hutchinson, Versus, Vittoria). i just set up my trail and enduro bikes both with kryptotal trail/enduro compound. not going back.
I’ll have to check some of those out.
Those “accordion slits” on the side knobs are on the wrong side of the knob to provide any grip. The inner edge is what grabs, which is why the inner edge wears and not the outside.
They don’t proveide grip but allow for the knob to flex. That’s what helps with the grip.
It allows the knob to flex, but not in the mode you want. Sipes allow the inner edge to deform and grip, comprising the outer edge just lets the knob fold easier. Sipes are a better design for faster riding.
Best shoulder knob design allows a soft, deformable inner edge while retaining a stable knob under high load
The accordion folds allow the front of the knob to conform to the terrain and allow the back/insides of the knob to provide bite.
I like the Maxxis DHF, DHR and Recon tires in 29x2.6” on my Stan’s Baron and other i35mm rims by RF and WTB I have some i40mm rims too. I usually don’t run any tire less than 2.5” because I like wider tires for my loose over rocks steep trails where I ride. I agree that CushCore is a staple and use in all my wheels.
When that new company comes up with wider tires I’ll be happy to try
I had 2.5's on my Tallboy before I put these on and I'll tell you even though I was worried about them being smaller it didn't end up being an issue. I think they may be a bit wider than a Maxxis 2.4 so maybe it was about the same as the Maxxis 2.5. Either way, I definitely had the same concern.
I love how people think .10" is even that big of a deal.
@@energ8t it depends on the person and what they prefer. Lots of people run 2.2-2.4” tires and will never think of marginal difference between marginally different specs.
nice tallboy, one of the nicest bikes I've seen in a while!
Thanks buddy
Thanks for the code! Still saved me some bucks on my "keep a breast" set!
Oh right on! I need to get some pink ones!
If he ever comes out with a lighter trail tire I'll be all over these. Done with maxxis. Riding teravail honchos right now.
Try the new Specialized ones too. Not too expensive and good grip. I ran the Butcher & Eliminator combo.
@@B1KER love when I find specialized tires on sale. Found a set of tires for my poseidon redwood for $12 a piece and they were tubeless tires.
We're working on it. The All-Mountains are super fast rolling, so they don't feel their weight. People have put them on XC bikes because the rolling speed + extra traction outweighs the weight penalty.
Hi there, I just heard about this tires and I'm very interested. May I know the actual width of the tire after yku install it ? Knob to knob millimeters measurements?
I don't have them on my bike anymore. Not because there was anything wrong with them, I just used them until they wore out and then tried something else. I was really happy with them. The owner of the company is really responsive and if you emailed him or sent a message on Insta, I'm sure he'd get back to you.
@@B1KER may I know the email address please ?
@@B1KER follow up question, does they worn out fast ?
@@jass.714 I'm sure there is a contact us on the website.
@@jass.714 No, it was normal wear.
Awesome tires . I don’t like to change tires when I’m happy with it . But I want to try Versus Man i was good decision great tires
Right on, glad ya like them!
Rad, glad you're digging them! Thanks for the support!
Any idea why the gravity casing is only sold in pairs? I’d like to try them but I only need 1 tire!
I’m not sure, but there is a contact page on the website. versustires.com/pages/contact
They're insanely expensive to ship (like almost $30 in some cases). Contact us & we'll try to work something out.
Bravo my friend, nice video!!!!
Thanks man!
Does the color in the tires waer out pretty quick? Looks like at the 5:13 mark, there's no more color on the front tire.
The color doesn't wear away, the tires just get dirty. But if you were to spray it down it would look just like it was new.
Michelin wild enduro have been my fav
I’ll have to check those out. 👍
Great tyres, I have them, transitions well, roll well, great aide knob support, sideknobs are like a must tyre, but mid is fast rolling as a good allrounder, so I don't think I need mud tyres anymore.
Damn, how is it that u have only 15k members?!? EVERYONE knows who B1 is.
I'm the black sheep, the red headed step child, the one everyone knows but doesn't like to admit they like. Muwaahahahahahahaha!
I currently run 29x2.6 on my RM Instinct PP and 2.5 on my StumpJumper Expert. I am not sure about moving from a 2.6 to a 2.4, seems like a big change, has anyone here made that much of a move on a single bike before? How did it feel?
I went from 2.5 Maxxis to this 2.4 and I was really concerned that I wouldn't like it. I was surprised that it didn't bother me. In addition I do ride 2.6 on my Bronson, but that's a 27.5 wheel.
The tires are a true 2.4 & the accordion folds let them ride a little wider. They might feel a little less "floaty" than the 2.6 but it's going to roll WAY faster and feel a bit more sturdy.
I’ve been running Versus tires for almost 2 years & they are great🧊🤘🏻
Definitely enjoyed them when I tested them!
The side knobs are interesting. No idea how it would feel.
Buy a set and check try them out. :)
How do they do on streets?
If I was climbing on a road to get to another trail it would be fine. But anymore than that I’m not sure what you are asking.
cool tires i wish they had red ones
They have different colors at different times.
Love my versus tires. If anyone hasn't tried them I highly recommend them.
I feel the same way too. 👍
Thanks for the support!
which air inflator is that? Man i hate seating tires,
I use the Park Tools one. It's crazy expensive, but the only one I could find that doesn't need to be clamped onto the valve. Here is a 90 second review I did on it: th-cam.com/video/ndLLhoEQBnM/w-d-xo.html
Have you tried WTB tires ?
It’s been awhile
Great Video, and I also Subscribed to your Channel Brother........🤝🏾🇺🇲💪🏾
Thanks for the sub
@@B1KER My Pleasure Brother, keep up the GREAT Videos.......🤝🏾🇺🇲💪🏾👍🏾
LEGIT
Thanks
What's the general gear ratios when you go over parts.of terrain that just look like a pile of rocks
LOL, it’s really up to what feel right to you.
Hol' up! You were running Exo+!? Dude! I'm a big boy myself and anything other than DD does not get on my rear wheel.
I will try and get away with EXO+ sometimes. But it seems like I mostly buy Double Down. I can't remember if this was during Covid and tires were limited.
You're just going to throw away bike parts like that?! I have ideas for those Maxxis tires, send em' my way!
I really like the splatter of the Versus tires, those may be my next set of tires.
I still have the tires. Tires have been basically gold during all the covid supply chain stuff so there is no way I'd be getting rid of something with tread on it still!
@@B1KER I don't blame you, that's how I got started Tinkering. Some call it hoarding, I call it getting full use.
We'll be stoked to have you in the crew! You'll dig 'em!
@@versustires5494 I'm a pretty big weight-weenie though on most of my bikes, have anything in XC casing in the works? I loved your podcast on the B1KER BAR, cool to see a small company doing big things!
@@tinkeringcyclist9314 We're working on it but they're a long ways out.
Wheres that trashcan?! I'm about to come up on some free tires!
Lmao!!!
Always looking for good tires away from Expensive maxxis .. I ride 2.8 or 2.6 tires
They don’t have those sizes yet. 🤷♂️
you headed to sea otter next week?
I'll be there Th & Fr
@@B1KER Badass! youll see me at the enduro Thursday with all the Spartan rides AZ swag!
@@travisbrun7433 We'll be there, too. Cruise by - Booth A11 around the corner from Ride Concepts.
Rob
How’d you like the traction on my Hawes kitty litter?? Asking for a friend. Lol.
I was stoked with it. Hawes would give a little then grab. It was different than riding in the Tahoe Sand where you just feel like you are floating on a ski.
@@B1KER that’s out challenge or the getting used to the two wheel drift
Seems like you want right back to Maxxis... Versus not quite as good as you portrayed?
No, they were great. I just prefer a 2.5 and right now Versus is a small company and doesn't offer all the sizes. I really enjoyed them while I was running them. If you like 2.4, I wouldn't hesitate.
I ride my 26" and sold my 27.5 so C-Ya...they don't make tires for me.
Right on. Pickings are slim on 26!
Still using them?
I did until they were toast. Then I wanted to try the Specialized tires everyone was ranting about.
@@B1KER how'd you compare these to the Specialized tires?
Maxxis is definitely not the king. Just one of the most known brands.
I am sure there are better options out there and Versus seems to be one of them.
I've not had good luck with Maxxis tyres, most had misaligned thread, a sin leg and right side did not match, knobs did not align with each other, some were even a bit wobbly, but most got very wobbly after 4-6 months, but when I saw cracks or quite rounded off knobs, it was a sign the bead would likely fail soon, I wore th ebead quit ebadly, once you see some rubber falling off or see the nylon bead, you need to stop using them or the tyre will blow off.
So I always made sure to check, the thread had much more life in it, despite few cracks and rounded off knobs, but bead always was the first go. It's been like tha t with all of them. I used High Roller 2, Shorty, both in 2.30, 29er but now I use Michelin Wild Enduro 2.30, they made a huge difference, the transition was much better, alot smoother, felt perfect, so did the side knob stability, I could feel Maxxis flex and twist feel unstable, but not the Wild Enduro., this was on 62.5 deg head angle, and 23mm rims, now I have 30mm rims, which feels even smoother when turning, doing fakies, doing fakies(reversing and turning the bike) it's very noticible.
I'll have to check out the Michelin some time.
The cons with Michelin Wild Enduro the knobs crack, But will likely not be an issue. But Michelin has a great bead, it stays like new where as Maxxis would look like I took sandpaper to it in just a few months. I went for the sticky rubber on the front and less sticky on the rear. But it wears faster than regular compound from Maxxis. I've not tried versus yet. @@B1KER
Maxxis >
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice
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MTB parts are becoming more and more expensive every year for no reason , MTB is becoming a not for everyone and that sucks
Everything is more expensive nowadays. When I was younger I was pissed cuz a lift ticket in Tahoe was $40 and I didn’t even pay that much to ski in the Alps. Nowadays that same place is over $200 a day. 🤷♂️
@@B1KER $200 a day is too much , USA is surely out of this world , here in Germany you can get a season ticket for that amount
eYES ARE WAY TO CLOSE TOGETHER FREAKS ME OUT.
I blame the Illuminati.
Pls send me those old tires please. can afford one
Hahaha, they were toast.
Extremely expensive tyres, and same pattern as a dhr2
They are cheaper than Maxxis. 🤷♂️
@@B1KER can you provide a shop online?