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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ม.ค. 2024
- With Arena Rush becoming more interesting due to LD pieces being added to the rewards. A guide like this is at the right time! Hope you enjoy!
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Damn, Seiishizo speedrunning all guides possible
Just in time for frr
Thx
Yo bro just wanted to say thanks for the content lately love watching it
Holy moly You are absolutely killing it with the content man!
Ong. I been playing it like a podcast and my sw knowledge went 📈📈📈📈📈
ty seiishizo you are the best !
i always had around 10-20% win rate with my AD (i kept f1-f3 all week then). Thanks to this video i made AD which has solid 80% winrate :O (and i keep account in c2-c3!) so better attackers than before are getting owned, and my runes are the same as before :D whats amazing i didnt make any AD u suggested but this tutorial really opened my mind. Well done Sir!
Ad with 80% is nutssss
Something that's it's implicit in the Unpredictability section but should be noted, it's when building a defense that doesn't have that many room for many counters, it's to build it around the most common offense so it become a trap defense. When you know most people will use certain units building around that becomes relatively easier too.
I start in G1 with about 20 mins before tally and end up G2/G3, EU. I always screenshot my score (rank, points, ao hits, def hits) at XX:40, XX:50 and tally. This gives me a good idea about what's going on. Last week for instance I got hit 13 times in the last 10 minutes in G3. That automatically tells me its a bad def
yep those are good ideas
Great Video as expected Love your Conent
sei this was very useful thank you, xD the fish thing makes me think we are very similar in thinking. I also think it would be nice to test the teams you are talking about with different counter teams but that will probably be a hassle for u.
well every team is counterable , it just depends which offs you make. so technically there's no struggle haha. unless you have some of the perfect ld5 setups for current meta
The fact that there is no real clear answer on what makes a def good makes this topic much more interesting.
To me, core factors are: not lushenable, stalling and discouraging.
Execially if you don't have those messy units that make the def unpredictable in anycase like tian lang.
But mostly you need to be consistent in attack, because in the paper rock scissor concept a def can counter one offense but it can't counter all of them.
Reruning before rush should be first then understanding unpredictability is underrated... I don't have rune quality cuz I'm basically f2p, but I been playing this game since jewbagel started streaming this game. It's. I got 2 ld 5s. Akroma an MI Ying.
Did you talk about geldnir and/or with light eivor? I watched til the end but only heard a little about eivor. Any comments on them both? Thanks
Greate guide
This was helpful, Im thinking Vanessa, Camilla, Savannah, Swift Rakkan
yep is a solid team.
YEA BUDY
Hi Seiishizzle, this is definitely helpful and will help me snag those ld pieces. However I disagree with what you said about the "defence gets hit" stuff. Wouldn't it be better to have a 50% win rate defence over a defence that doesn't get hit as you get points when it wins? Therefore you will not go down in rank with 50% winrate? Or have I got that wrong?
In theory yes, having a def that's 50%+ wr you'll gain points. In practice, rarely even the legend player gets defense rates that high. A typical good performing defense ends up with like 35% wr, so you're still on average losing points vs a def that doesn't get hit which stays neutral
Thanks, that is helpful@@enoemos12321
Aint no way you have defense thats higher than 50% in high rank.
Thats why its always better to have your defense to get less hit
Nice video! Do you think a Pater on swift can be good in arena defense?
never seen it but i think it might
@@Seiishizobecause i tought of a defense with Nephthys, kaki, triton and Pater, so enemy maybe will be scary of both be cutted by triton or cut out by patet if they strip him, you think it can work?
hi, Is water twin after balance patch is actually good for arena defense?
I would like to run him as speed lead+ dark horus, dark macaron, fire slayer or water valkyrie
It would kill my brain to think of an indefeatable defense bruh I have good units a speed lead/provoke/CC etc but damn idk my brain will explode if I think too much about perfection
my current defense now is wedjat, abelio, laika, and riley
Let's see if this video will help me. With my new pungbek team I would have hit guardian if it weren't for the shit load of attacks that came in. I only need a def so I don't get 5 attacks in in the last minute of rush and I'm good to go
I´m running with Vanessa/Psamath, Nora, Tian Lang and Amduat on defense, it seems stupid, because of the Tian Lang and Amduat dynamic, but it seems also annoying, especially during the rush
How would you rank the light pony for defense ? Just use the world boss scaling from C to SSS
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Hey Seii, how do you recommend building camilla for this?
tanky and fast
@@Seiishizo Should I scrap the cd slot 4 for hp if I have only +23k hp on her?
I was wondering why everyone was suddenly using Vannessa * Shaina * Martina * Triana
I use Akroma Nyx Nora Kinki on Defense. I got some Anticrit, Nyx's Passive and Nora Strip. Kinki just there because I dont know what else to put there, was thinking about Abellio but I dont know
is not too bad but also somewhat easy to counter on tiana truffle kaki + att buffer
Nora for this windie camilla vanessa def, on violent or 3x revenge?
i did vio but can be swift or desp to
Haven't seen the last vid. Is this one a revamped list?
this is arena def, other is arena off
I really wonder whats your opinnion about a good ad with alex. I got her and tried a tons of combs with her for ad but when it comes to push into g3 i always get a million hits in the last few mins even if i pair her with units like halphas abellio and stuff :/ the ai of alex is just terrible. If she moves 95% she transforms and hits s1 afterwards. 😢
yea her AI is bad :( it's just that people might skip you. make sure ur not bombable. cus that's mainly a counter to her. halphas abelio are also both bombable
@@Seiishizo im using her mostly with akroma lead bc its my only 44% hp. I tried akroma alex windy camilla aswell all around 55-60k hp in total but they got eaten up like 1k times in the last 5mins of rush
Would be happy if you can give me some ideas so get it bomb proofed :D
@@kosurie-3236bombers lack spd since they face many rng factors and therefore kinda need tiana. so yea spd is a thing.
seeisizo should make guide how ur defend can proc vio 10 times
wish i could
I've noticed in C1-3 a lot of the scary looking LD5 teams are absolutely terrible and super easy to beat.
My def at the moment is a Karnal, Camilla, Darion, amduat and I get hit only 20-30 times a week in c1-2
isnt that just pung food since darion takes MORE damage on himself. boosting the splash damage to the rest of the team
any good seimei AD suggestions? karnal camila wind hacker seimei is good?
nah seimei doesn't add much on def except against the dot team. but a juno would do better
My only spd lead is: Oliver. (fresh acc) Can something like: Oliver(L), Miles, Riley and my random LD 5* Lucifer work? I dont have many options and want to focus on PVE but have a ok def
i could lushen that easily
2:25 i love this defend becau i just douman it,
What you think about karnal ariel feng juno, or what monster could i replace feng with
spdlead for feng or someone else
@@Seiishizo i sadly dont have spd runes for nephtys
@@Seiishizo you think nephtys on nemesis will with +156 spd is enough
@@Seiishizo i have to say that i could reach c2 max
I have a Vanessa, and I know she and Clara fulfill different goals apart from bringing Spd lead, which one would you go for?
depends on the rest of the team, but I feel like nessa does a better job for me atm
Thoughts on nigong, fermion, double halphas?
hmm not great, limited strip, no spd potential. and 1x halphas is countered by the same as 2x halphas
Not lushenable, not bombable, and not tianable , that good enough
timecode for the runage advice ? ( sorry i dont have time to watch the all video )
you missed the core idea of the video by asking for timecode for rune advice ^.^
Def with lydia ? What would u use ? Hp lead+ Leo lydia giselle?
In c3/guardian I use Akroma, Nora, Lydia, and Camilla. My highest rank is g2 and only gets hit a handful of times during the last 10 minutes of rush. You could probably sub out Akroma for a lot of stuff.
in C2/C3 i use Karnal Leumei Abellio Lydia, its not the best but it works. I'm also open to suggestions on defences and lydia runes (I've tried nem/nem/will, Rage/will hp% cd hp%)
@@fearfulclone5486
Hello 😊 ! an idea of defense with wedjat !?
could do what I sometimes see on def. wedjat (swift shield) chilling (swift will) rakan +1
Now i try leader helphas seimei ren camilla what you think about that?
its pretty sure unseen, but people could leo christina it, since you lack strip.
@@Seiishizothat's true maybe change seimei or ren for juno?
I change seimei for juno was better i think about amduat who os better juno or amduat for def
diaz camilla nora riley?
No Alexandra ? The queen of AD is done ?
what do you think of clara amduat camilla giselle?
can be nice yea! but i think a vanessa triton + camilla giselle is more dangerous if you have them
sadly, i dont have vanessa. I have triton and camilla@@Seiishizo any other combo i can do?
I have a Pontos (L), Geldnir, and Zerath... I just throw in that swift nemesis racuni then and chill?
How rune windig ?
Is Riley good in the Defense ?
nah
@@Seiishizo why? I don't have experience with defense
Is Valantis or Lydia valid ?
not realy, but could work here and there
Nora camilla .. i hate 2 hr arena matches sm
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where is the goat disruptor. ginger brave man. jokes aside i would be scared to hit a gingerbrave defense that cant be cleared with 3 other units after one gets cooldown reduced and shield runes is still a 50/50
Your ideas are great, but I feel like you leave pungbaek unconsidered. He cleans up almost any team as long as he has one target with armor break to hit(excluding mons like kinki or Camilla) but otherwise, he just needs one target. A majority of the comps you suggested are run over by a pung.
everything i suggest is counterable by something. Thats just how the life of AD is ^.^ if you would be anti pung it would become countered by something else
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I got Leah an almost 200 speed Tiana dark robo psamath Verad Vanessa abelio triton xhing zhe but I am hardstuck c2 arena anyone got hints?
Btw Juno and Byung chill and amduat aswell
what do you want us to do with that information lmao
Help me build and ad and ao
Watch his previous video it's about ao