LD4 Tier List 2024 Where to Use These Units?! - Summoners War

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  • @Seiishizo
    @Seiishizo  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Missing units:
    Isillen (dark elf ranger) Decent unit in siege off, 4th tier.

    • @Arthrexx
      @Arthrexx 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Isillen is actually pretty good counter to Dark Asura. Pair her with the rat and Triana and just see dots fly everywhere. Basically hard counters one of the more common nat 4* bases. You don't hit those, so I can see why the placement :D Light Dryad is also a good counter for Dark Tomoe. Max skilled her shield completely negates the damage. Dark Poison guy is also really strong. Seen Aftermath players use him regularly in Siege.

    • @arturpotalov6022
      @arturpotalov6022 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Didn't you miss gladiatrix?

    • @Kyduk
      @Kyduk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      TBH you should really look into the Light Dokkaebi Princess. She's basically a similar Molly, but a bit more useful and stronger (although you lose the potential to strip on S1)

    • @Eiszahn
      @Eiszahn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting list, with me playing an LD only account i cant fully agree with your list but i gues that just comes from me not beeing able to use the other 3 elements.

    • @exctn
      @exctn 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kyduk Not even close, glancing passive is really strong it can even screw up Nephthys' passive.
      I would only look twice when cleaving with my tiana/nephthys combo IF the defense have Molly/Nyx.

  • @TheDupeDavec
    @TheDupeDavec 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    My guy doing gods work here and in general! Love your videos mate, keep em coming!

  • @nivikoseven
    @nivikoseven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great point of reference for all the ones I've summoned so far!

  • @LieyLiey
    @LieyLiey 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Light robo is basically an ld4 poseidon for arena offense, good dmg and counters nemesis, he lets u build alicia/pungbaek on full dmg for tiana/galleon

    • @LieyLiey
      @LieyLiey 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Also the self destruct animations looks really cool

    • @iiShqdow
      @iiShqdow 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah and its irresistible which is amazing

    • @firentialombardi906
      @firentialombardi906 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's so fun to use too lol. Die, revive, Cooldown Reset, Die again.

  • @durant8006
    @durant8006 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    They keep nerfing ld4 and buffing ld5 to the point it's not that excited to pull for ld4 unless it's dark string master

    • @potatomatop9326
      @potatomatop9326 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      martina and deborah are even better than other ld5s bro

  • @dahhl777
    @dahhl777 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I think felleria is super underrated. Free win vs debuff heavy siege def. And she's great for early game r5 she can solo cleanse one team

    • @GFRetroSenpaix
      @GFRetroSenpaix 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      U get it

    • @tanpham7411
      @tanpham7411 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I use her in RTA as well against heavy cc units like Rica or Fire Druid.

    • @sammclaughlin6748
      @sammclaughlin6748 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's actually wild how useful she is, and how many people just ignore her. She's been underrated for *years*, and without any of the nonsensical buffs/nerfs the rest of the ld4 roster has gotten

  • @user-sv1wk2wp4h
    @user-sv1wk2wp4h 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    this tier list was SO helpful and needed with the 10 year anniversary scrolls! thank you sir and very well done and great job! keep up the amazing work seii!!

  • @tangostacker4745
    @tangostacker4745 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i thought this has an hoh tierlist for a second and got soooo happy when i saw icarus thought i missed the most insane hoh

  • @victordominguez9297
    @victordominguez9297 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Light blacksmith is actually great, if you have her you should try some Odin or Federica teams, I like to use Laima and her together, nice tier and thanks for the vid!

  • @Steven-jj4oo
    @Steven-jj4oo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have lots of ld archers but never used lol good to see this coz i keep using my 3 martinas every siege

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love Dusky. He is fun to use randomly when people don't remember what he does and he also hits pretty hard.

  • @eddy796
    @eddy796 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is also a weird chamie build of high Speed/Hp and stacking additional damage artifacts to use its stacks. A fun build but definitely outclassed

  • @jan-g5269
    @jan-g5269 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you so much for the video :3

  • @Russianstundard
    @Russianstundard 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks for making this!

  • @Herrinm.
    @Herrinm. 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    what's some Chris offences and what do you use them into

  • @v3rsatile_V3
    @v3rsatile_V3 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    after looking at the light dokkaebi princess I think she might have some uses her passive heals everyone for 30% on her turn than another 30% if they have a beneficial effect, if I had her I could say if she is actually good but I think she is usable

    • @chingling135
      @chingling135 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      She’s cracked

  • @Lp0tr33
    @Lp0tr33 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got Lucia the light cyborg. Haven't tried her yet, not sure if she should be a super tank, or some hybrid like the dragon knights.

  • @charalacuchara9765
    @charalacuchara9765 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad to see Cris and Bethony cuz I spam the hell out of those 2. Easily my fav units in the game

  • @dergutename
    @dergutename 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    if you dont wanna use aka in gbah u can use ereadas (white sylph thing) aka is better but if you want to be different

    • @RiftyLuca
      @RiftyLuca 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      quad hit into giants tho

  • @jackjunior5000
    @jackjunior5000 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    YOOO this dude doesnt missss lmao props to ur Vid bruh

  • @moin-123
    @moin-123 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    18:35 I see MST still pretty often in the Backline of g3 Sieges.

  • @martinlutherkingsize
    @martinlutherkingsize 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    light robot is quite good in specifique teams

  • @darrelld8578
    @darrelld8578 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Frigate is very underrated. He’s the single biggest attack bar booster in the game. Good for speed arena teams

    • @dramatique5624
      @dramatique5624 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      there’s a 3* that does the same tho

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And the 3 star is faster​@@dramatique5624

    • @pierrelapierre7108
      @pierrelapierre7108 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@dramatique5624But Purian base spd is trash . Frigate easier to rune since he has higher base spd.

  • @codythatcher735
    @codythatcher735 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love all of my LD4's being in either Not commonly used, but probably bad, or BAD/Meme 😭

  • @the.reel.mccoy.
    @the.reel.mccoy. 46 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    The only one that I slightly disagree is Sige, He actually has a lot of turn control on Vio

  • @Ryosare
    @Ryosare 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do you think about the new Carmella (Fire Cyborg) + Tiana combo, which grants you irresistible strip into irresistible defbreak?
    I feel like you could cook up something with this, no? Would love your opinion on that.
    EDIT: after testing her out myself a few times now, even tho her text in german says irresistible, it still may miss as i noticed. So glancing is the issue here, no? So... don't mind me, no new hidden OP combo xD
    Great Videos, thanks for the effort!

  • @Francorocco
    @Francorocco 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how do you build the light cookie for subjugation? with hp or just ignore the hp scaling and focus on atk? i got one but have no clue how to rune for that content

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      mainly just dmg. 100 cr some speed. bit tanky. use some leftover fatal blades that you probably have from farming giants. all of my cookies for subjugation are fatal something. th-cam.com/video/eP6Y3tPpHeo/w-d-xo.html

    • @Francorocco
      @Francorocco 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Seiishizo but like, his skills have an ho scaling, should i ignore this and just put atk anyway?

    • @MegaKenny9
      @MegaKenny9 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Francoroccohe doesn’t have any hp scaling. It’s only if his hp drops under 50% that his s2 shuts off. So atk is the way to go

    • @Francorocco
      @Francorocco 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MegaKenny9 ty

  • @ChoperJoJo
    @ChoperJoJo 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    and to think years ago i wished for a dark samurai and got it in 2020 i think. Gave him all my devilmons lmao... the regrets now

  • @mateusbp2
    @mateusbp2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have Leah but I don't have any setup for her, only Galleon, I don't have Tiana or Adriana, and for me, she doesn't do more damage than Lushen because I can't make her very fast.

    • @MohaASeck
      @MohaASeck 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't need her to have more than +120 and you can replace Adrianna by eshir or fire blade dancer or the premium Craig.
      So chiwu/Gemini - Fire blade - Galleon and Leah

  • @dracyra
    @dracyra 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is there will be ld5 tier list?

  • @diaolener8703
    @diaolener8703 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nice one :D

  • @user-ed8iw9cx3k
    @user-ed8iw9cx3k 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Any suggestion of chris in siege offence?? Chilling Chris @??

    • @justinwilder8571
      @justinwilder8571 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I'm not really understanding how to make Chris work at all

    • @pierrelapierre7108
      @pierrelapierre7108 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably use a gemini ?

    • @treeck3724
      @treeck3724 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It'd likely be chilling Chris miyang, same idea as miyang adriana sonia, fast base spd spd buffer and big nuke in Chris/sonia with miyang for spd lead and extra dmg/2nd 1 shot on squishy stuff

    • @justinwilder8571
      @justinwilder8571 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@treeck3724 Thank you I will test this out
      EDIT: Tested it, she is not a big nuke at all. I looked through all the defenses of my guild and saw 0 places where I would be able to pick her. And you would never build her over something like a Khali or Shren. I think Seii made a mistake.

  • @lukildsz
    @lukildsz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Gg man, tnx, link for the list?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      edited it in the description

  • @lenlilam8199
    @lenlilam8199 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trasar is pretty insane in g2 siege and below

  • @hmmmmmyes8062
    @hmmmmmyes8062 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    no dark sniper? i just got him but seems kinda me

  • @Queendom-jd9ln
    @Queendom-jd9ln 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I got Leah & Icares but no nat 5 this many scroll event. I mean there are 200+ more scrolls available but after 250 scrolls I havent got nat 5. Leah & Icares are the only great ld i got. Time to delete the account & make new.

  • @user-uv2mb7pc9j
    @user-uv2mb7pc9j 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video

  • @Queendom-jd9ln
    @Queendom-jd9ln 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I came here because I got Aurelia(light Gladiatrix) & u didn't even include her💀💀🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

  • @NicoLuna95
    @NicoLuna95 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wait doesn't Lucas get 30 Crit rate by default from passive? Even if shield is down I mean

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Apparently he doesn't need it no.

    • @rohan5564
      @rohan5564 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, he gets free 30% CR and damage boost in proportion to the shield thickness (not only his own shield but any shield applied to him)

  • @lolc4108
    @lolc4108 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah..l wait my first mirinae,kinki,dova,dark archer,leah and martina 😢

  • @galleonspeedrunner8655
    @galleonspeedrunner8655 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    26:35...doesnt the new fire cyborg become the most consistent def break unit in the game rn after nepthys?? if fire cyborg has high enough atk she will always land aoe def break without res check

    • @trugam3r402
      @trugam3r402 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep. He wasn’t aware of that tho, vid was before new monster

  • @chibbster1691
    @chibbster1691 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why do u only need 53 acc on bomber?

  • @jonyongkkkl5119
    @jonyongkkkl5119 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When 90% of the LD4 are more useful than 50% of the LD5, that speaks volume. Also people are not very familiar with LD4 skillset so that can bring an element of surprise to the opponent.

  • @eyelesstriangle
    @eyelesstriangle 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    (Prepare yourself, it's a whole novella below)
    I have many non-hoh ld 4's, so I could say a thing or *two* about them.
    Chris. Have two, the last time I used them was around 2 years ago, didn't think she is that good. Maybe I should google some offs with her.
    Molly. Two as well. I use one from time to time, but the second one is still not skilled up as she is almost never used. I think they should return her 15% of glancing to herself.
    Martina. Yes, two. Again. Full dmg build with as much spd as possible. Rarely do I use the second mst, nonetheless dmg build is the only one that is actually good for an offence. Tanky mst are usually demolished by procs.
    Grego. Choose you number. Was it 2? You are right! Six-starred the second one to get some energy thanks to the endless number of 1-3* scrolls. Did use him as a dark tank, but he isn't very good for it since he receives only 50% of healing. And now with 5 hoh dark knights, I doubt I will use him any time soon.
    Isllen. There are 4 units above, which is twice as more as my number of Isllens. I like using him, but too bad there aren't many defs that he is good against. Prefer on a spd build (desp will 20k hp 170 spd), but it seems like most people just use very tanky and slow build, so maybe I'll try it the next time.
    Icares. You already know the number, don't you? I just give her my karnal's runes when I use her (vio destroy, 41k hp, 106 spd). Of course she gets less hp, but it still works very good. If only she was hp or even support type... still, very good sniper, though I don't use the second one often.
    Dark ezio. The collab one looks more handsome than the sw one, no one can convince me otherwise. And, of course, I have both of them, i.e 2 in total of them lying around in my storage. Uselessly.
    -Wow, It's already very long.-
    Double shenanigans are over as I have no more double 4*. Sadge. [Sad Orion Emoji Here]
    I still have Leah, Dark robo, Betta and Vritra though, and I would most certainly build more If I had more, especially Leah.
    Leah does such an immense amount of dmg, that nowadays I use only two cleave teams just with her (typical Chiwu, Galleon, Eshir and Adriana, Tiana, Luer), which made my other teams (including those with Isis) pretty useless. Moreover, even when galleon or luer mess up (often...) and don't land a def break or two, I still end up winning in many cases thanks to her dmg.
    And with Gimini becoming f2p once again and doing a lot of work by himself (unlike a certain ld nat 5 in my possession), I can try to build Gemini Adriana Leah Isis team. To be honest, I'm scared to even think about speed tuning 4 units with spd buff only, when one of them has 96 base and the other one has 120... But it might end up being a good team, so it's worth to try.
    -Now it's even longer and there is one thing more I want to say...-
    I disagree with light yennefer being above Madeleine (light Deborah). I have both and Madeleine unironically pairs very well with Odin. So at least she got one niche she is good in.
    Light yen on the other hand... She does nothing. Her passive is pretty mediocre, since there aren't many units or even defs that have enough of stripps and buffs for her to be used, and what even worse, in order to work she needs a unit that provides buffs next to her! But what does she do on herself? The only real thing she does is putting oblivion with her s2... No dmg, no heal/cleanse, no buffs, no setup, no control. She's got 10.380 hp, 615 def and 103 base spd, so she's not even fast or tanky!
    Now, lets look at Delphoi.
    Delphoi has oblivion in her s2 as well (with decreasing cooldown time), but she also provides cleanse, healing and immunity, and her base stats are 10.875 hp, 703 def and 96 spd... Delphoi does 4 more things, while being completely f2p and, moreover, having fusionable skill ups! There is no place for light yennefer, not with this kit at least.
    I think the best buff for light yen would be switching her s2 with dark yen (whose kit made of shield and CC doesn't make a lot of sense, especially for an ld5). With shield on s2, she will be somewhat useable.
    All of the above is my opinion, of course.
    Wow! It's over... Goodness, I'm such a blabbermouth. Thanks to all who read it 'till the end, I appreciate it.

  • @YanlucasxD
    @YanlucasxD 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hard disagree on Tosi, I used to use him in AO before I pulled Leah
    He's basically Leah with ~30% less dmg, but still enough damage to cleave those Karnal defenses

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think many units can do more dmg than him, i wouldn't use tosi for it if i didn't have leah.

  • @MohaASeck
    @MohaASeck 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Waiting for Seii to make Chris offenses because yeah her placing is kinda sus

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      check the arena hits of guts the berserk. he uses her quite some.

  • @ShiekSw
    @ShiekSw 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Skogul trasar in siege is pretty strong

    • @durant8006
      @durant8006 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Arnold beat this easy

    • @ShiekSw
      @ShiekSw 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@durant8006 as a offense haha

    • @durant8006
      @durant8006 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ShiekSw oh my bad

  • @loganadam4108
    @loganadam4108 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rating units on how useful they are in summoners war but only if they should be built for siege! Thanks

  • @MohaASeck
    @MohaASeck 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Damn the disrespect on Korona is insane even Lanett (actual trash unit) is higher

  • @wagon3855
    @wagon3855 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    specifical is not a word but great video otherwise

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/specifical#:~:text=Definition%20of%20'specifical'&text=1.,a%20specified%20or%20particular%20thing okay

    • @moin-123
      @moin-123 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂

    • @lordvectra7821
      @lordvectra7821 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Seiishizo LOL GOTTEM

  • @ramirosantana2648
    @ramirosantana2648 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cant believe the place of the samurais...even the light pirate among them???!!!...nop. Inacceptable...

  • @ronlanders7354
    @ronlanders7354 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I agree korana is pretty bad in rl and in game.😂

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

  • @nathanchen2824
    @nathanchen2824 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man this is really weird to see because I have both light and dark magic archer but was told dark is ok but requires too much setup and that light was just decent. I also have 2 dovas and 1 dark string master that are both unbuilt (because my swift runes are garbage) but I never knew they were considered so strong

  • @laxusanime2504
    @laxusanime2504 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this video glitched

  • @farhanqqq5358
    @farhanqqq5358 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where we can use deborah ?

  • @mdnght0095
    @mdnght0095 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are u dutch ?

  • @diluc1611
    @diluc1611 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tbh I see more mollys than bettas and I’m more scared of Molly 😂

  • @Ant-Honey568
    @Ant-Honey568 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Magnus Carlsen for summoners war

  • @philippemuniz4203
    @philippemuniz4203 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dark Taoist

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nat 3

  • @donwebster9292
    @donwebster9292 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Doesnt do enough damage and just makes me mad. Lol.

  • @landersaiz44
    @landersaiz44 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where is isillen? Dark elf

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      good point that one is missing i'll write it in the comments

  • @Caioboladim_
    @Caioboladim_ 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    forgot about isillen

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      added him in comments, thanks :)

    • @Caioboladim_
      @Caioboladim_ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Seiishizo love your content

  • @ShiekSw
    @ShiekSw 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Comment

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...