Found your channel after a shootout from Stefan Dury and loved this video as a fresh PPL pilot based out of EHHV. Always good to hear and see other pilots.
Welcome to the channel, and if you liked this video you will like the other (recent) ones too 😉 Always happy to share my experiences with other fresh pilots as myself!
Very well done! Your phraseology and pronounciation were quite fine. Getting no answer has something to do with the mentality of the east frisian people, they don't talk too much. When I'm approaching Norderney, I usually insist on getting answer, just to make other planes aware of me, some like this: D-Exxx; erbitte Radio-Check! (request radio-check), or D-Exxx, erbitte Wind-Check (request wind-check) when I already turned base and didn't get any response. If you fly to other frisian islands (Wangerooge, Langeoog and Baltrum), they wouldn't respond between 13-15 o'clock local time; this is their 'Mittagspause' and you are not allowed to land. Borkum, Juist and Norderney don't have this midday closure.
Thanks, especially the radio/wind check tip is great, I will write that down into my German cheat sheet. Actually on downwind they acknowledged me but I did not fully understand the message (outside of my callsign) so I did not include that in the video to avoid confusion. After my initial call I did not immediately retry because I felt busy enough looking out for traffic and flying into a never visited before astrodome :) Actually when paying the landing fee the person in the tower said that he actually heard my first call but did not understand it well enough 🤷♂️😅 I really liked the area (except the German radio part) so I think a two day flight with sleeping on one of the islands might come next summer or so, with landings on multiple islands! Thanks for watching 👌
@@papics Ich rolle zurück auf der Piste xy. I have also already used: D-Exxx, mache ein Backtrack auf der Piste xy. For other watchers of your videos wanting to fly to Germany, I wrote some German phrases in comments to your Koblenz Video.
@@papics Had to look it up, it's "Zurückrollen Piste XY". But you can say "Backtrack XY", it's probably the more common usage even when otherwhise speaking German.
Nice flight. At 2:20 Gosly Charleroi GSY VOR 115.7 MHz. I was surprised to hear Langen Info that far up in the north of Germany. They are located in Langen, about 20 km south of Frankfurt Main. I thought they only handled air traffic in the west / middle of Germany. I expected Bremen Info there. I do not understand why that guy at Norderney does not respond to you but only to other German planes.. Your German was good.. Btw, I do not know if you are a Belgian citizen or a Frensch since you fly a Frensch registered plane. For Belgium German is the 3rd official language... :) I learned to know the German airport phraseology when I listened to my scanner that had programmed the frequencies of Maastricht Airport here, also among others the frequency of Aachen Merzbrück.
Thanks for watching, and the long comment! I am a Belgian citizen as an acquired nationality (my second - and original - nationality is Hungarian), but outside of the basic phraseology I don't speak German, only Dutch (and English, and Hungarian, and some veri very very little French). We have a lot of planes with French registration at EBCI, I think many have their maintenance in France too. I hope you will like my other videos too ;) Cheers!
The German VFR FIRs have been combined several years ago. There are still 3 FIRs and you need to change frequency now and then, but their callsign is "Langen Information" all over Germany. Bremen Information and Munich Information don't exist as callsigns any more, nor does Berlin Information if you remember that.
@@xaverlustig3581 Ok I see. But are the controllers also in all located in Langen or are the controllers for Bremen Info still in Bremen, only changed their callsign?
Nice video in good quality! Thanks! :-) Question: Why don't you just speak English instead of German to the AT-controller? I thought that was the international aviation language?
There are unfortunately many (small, uncontrolled) airports (that still provide information service on the radio) where only the use of the local language is allowed (there are many in France and Germany, none in Belgium or the Netherlands). An example of this is Norderney. In most places the person at the radio actually understands English perfectly well, but the radio station only has licence to operate in the local language, and all local pilots will communicate in the local language too… It’s often local politics that create/maintain these situations. I was also VERY surprised when during my PPL training we flew over to a French field and my instructor said that now we will have to make our calls in French 🙈
@@papics OK, I see. Seems incredible. Thanks for the answer, and keep up the good work! 🙂 BTW, you should read the novel by Erskine Childers, written in 1903, it includes Norderney and many of the German Frisian islands. It is perhaps the first spy novel ever created, and very exciting. Childers later fought for the Irish liberation from the British and was actually shot for it. 😞 The novel is called "The Riddle of the Sands".
Hi, no, we have the same ones, here I got assigned 7000, which is the standard VFR code over here. I should have actually set that myself just before contacting Dutch Mil Info when entering the Netherlands, but I forgot, as in Belgium when in contact with ATC, even just FIS, we always squawk 2000 if not otherwise instructed. But every country around us have their specific habits/rules about squawk codes for VFR flights (beyond the uncontrolled VFR 7000)... At least the emergency ones are the same everywhere :)
Found your channel after a shootout from Stefan Dury and loved this video as a fresh PPL pilot based out of EHHV. Always good to hear and see other pilots.
Welcome to the channel, and if you liked this video you will like the other (recent) ones too 😉 Always happy to share my experiences with other fresh pilots as myself!
Very well done! Your phraseology and pronounciation were quite fine. Getting no answer has something to do with the mentality of the east frisian people, they don't talk too much. When I'm approaching Norderney, I usually insist on getting answer, just to make other planes aware of me, some like this: D-Exxx; erbitte Radio-Check! (request radio-check), or D-Exxx, erbitte Wind-Check (request wind-check) when I already turned base and didn't get any response. If you fly to other frisian islands (Wangerooge, Langeoog and Baltrum), they wouldn't respond between 13-15 o'clock local time; this is their 'Mittagspause' and you are not allowed to land. Borkum, Juist and Norderney don't have this midday closure.
Thanks, especially the radio/wind check tip is great, I will write that down into my German cheat sheet. Actually on downwind they acknowledged me but I did not fully understand the message (outside of my callsign) so I did not include that in the video to avoid confusion. After my initial call I did not immediately retry because I felt busy enough looking out for traffic and flying into a never visited before astrodome :) Actually when paying the landing fee the person in the tower said that he actually heard my first call but did not understand it well enough 🤷♂️😅 I really liked the area (except the German radio part) so I think a two day flight with sleeping on one of the islands might come next summer or so, with landings on multiple islands! Thanks for watching 👌
If I can ask one thing, how do you say “backtracking RWY XY” in German?
@@papics Ich rolle zurück auf der Piste xy. I have also already used: D-Exxx, mache ein Backtrack auf der Piste xy.
For other watchers of your videos wanting to fly to Germany, I wrote some German phrases in comments to your Koblenz Video.
@@papics Had to look it up, it's "Zurückrollen Piste XY". But you can say "Backtrack XY", it's probably the more common usage even when otherwhise speaking German.
Nice flight. At 2:20 Gosly Charleroi GSY VOR 115.7 MHz. I was surprised to hear Langen Info that far up in the north of Germany. They are located in Langen, about 20 km south of Frankfurt Main. I thought they only handled air traffic in the west / middle of Germany. I expected Bremen Info there. I do not understand why that guy at Norderney does not respond to you but only to other German planes.. Your German was good.. Btw, I do not know if you are a Belgian citizen or a Frensch since you fly a Frensch registered plane. For Belgium German is the 3rd official language... :) I learned to know the German airport phraseology when I listened to my scanner that had programmed the frequencies of Maastricht Airport here, also among others the frequency of Aachen Merzbrück.
Thanks for watching, and the long comment! I am a Belgian citizen as an acquired nationality (my second - and original - nationality is Hungarian), but outside of the basic phraseology I don't speak German, only Dutch (and English, and Hungarian, and some veri very very little French). We have a lot of planes with French registration at EBCI, I think many have their maintenance in France too. I hope you will like my other videos too ;) Cheers!
@@papics Ok Péter bedankt voor de uitleg! Ik zal zeker verder kijken! Thanks
The German VFR FIRs have been combined several years ago. There are still 3 FIRs and you need to change frequency now and then, but their callsign is "Langen Information" all over Germany. Bremen Information and Munich Information don't exist as callsigns any more, nor does Berlin Information if you remember that.
@@xaverlustig3581 Ok I see. But are the controllers also in all located in Langen or are the controllers for Bremen Info still in Bremen, only changed their callsign?
@@Ztbmrc1 As far as I know they are now physically in Langen where they have cables with lots of bandwidth to all the transmitter sites.
Oh it was a rough day- keep flying wonderful to see you fly in an area I can’t wait to fly in-
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video, very well edited 👍🏻
Thanks!
Nice video in good quality! Thanks! :-) Question: Why don't you just speak English instead of German to the AT-controller? I thought that was the international aviation language?
There are unfortunately many (small, uncontrolled) airports (that still provide information service on the radio) where only the use of the local language is allowed (there are many in France and Germany, none in Belgium or the Netherlands). An example of this is Norderney. In most places the person at the radio actually understands English perfectly well, but the radio station only has licence to operate in the local language, and all local pilots will communicate in the local language too… It’s often local politics that create/maintain these situations. I was also VERY surprised when during my PPL training we flew over to a French field and my instructor said that now we will have to make our calls in French 🙈
@@papics OK, I see. Seems incredible. Thanks for the answer, and keep up the good work! 🙂 BTW, you should read the novel by Erskine Childers, written in 1903, it includes Norderney and many of the German Frisian islands. It is perhaps the first spy novel ever created, and very exciting. Childers later fought for the Irish liberation from the British and was actually
shot for it. 😞 The novel is called "The Riddle of the Sands".
Are the emergency squawks different in Europe? I was a little surprised when you got assigned a 77XX squawk..
Hi, no, we have the same ones, here I got assigned 7000, which is the standard VFR code over here. I should have actually set that myself just before contacting Dutch Mil Info when entering the Netherlands, but I forgot, as in Belgium when in contact with ATC, even just FIS, we always squawk 2000 if not otherwise instructed. But every country around us have their specific habits/rules about squawk codes for VFR flights (beyond the uncontrolled VFR 7000)... At least the emergency ones are the same everywhere :)
nice my longest day in a single was 7.4 hours not breaks and no lunch it was a hectic day
That sounds way too much without a proper sit down for food for sure.