Just came across this video by chance. Previous console only player here, and from this console gamers perspective what happened to Elite: Dangerous on consoles is pretty unforgivable. We always felt like second class citizens as it was. There's no excuse citing 'technical challenges' when the Series X/S and Playstation 5 exist - these are capable machines and I'm certain if that was the only way Elite could have continued on consoles the community would have accepted that. If it has "Frontier Developments" on it now, by default I do not buy. I made an exception recently (first one in years) but I've certainly spent *a lot* less money if it has their name attched to it. Fool me once...
With how poorly the on foot stuff runs on even high end computers, I highly doubt they would have been capable of getting it running even remotely acceptably on Series X/PS5 Pro. They just don't have the talent anymore, and haven't for a while.
@@schrombomb They actually haven't fixed the on-foot performance for conflict zones but tagged it as "fixed". That's as far as "talent" FDev actually has.
Very upset that they just abandoned console players. They were happy to take our money when we bought and supported the game. Now they just leave us behind.. Will never buy another game from them again.
It's cited that the reason for cutting off consoles was budgetary reasons so they'd only have to support one codebase. Makes complete sense right? Gut and abandon two more widely-used platforms with less competition (no Star Citizen or other PC space games) in turn for an objective minority because you don't have to optimize as much when the machines are simply stronger!
Console only player, I played first ED on amiga in early 90’s. Love the game and unique ideas and implementation. I was really mad that odyssey went so wrong and consoles got dumped, but I can understand the logic and reasoning behind the move. I still think plenty of console players would rein-gauge if they even threw us a few scraps from time to time. Forget trying to make odyssey work on console, just port in new ships and customisation items, update community events and you have a cheap way to grab a bit of cash for fdev, some people would bitch and moan but it would ultimately please some console players and make financial sense.
I've been saying the same thing. Just keep console on horizons and give us the same BGS as odyssey. There's no reason we can't have the new ships and titans on consoles. The thargoids are already in the console version. Just split console from pc and make it cross gen for ps/xbox. Many developers do it so it's not impossible. But it's fdev and their track record speaks for itself.
Yes, easy to understand, but not to share. And BTW, easy to understand from a money point of view, which is absurd because consoles means more players, means more money. And that's your other take: "you have to sacrifice some things to make other things better". Better? Like what? Because I haven't seen that ED has significally improved at anything. The game bleeds players constantly, and if they didn't throw a bone from time to time, in this case a new ship, in other cases some thargoid war BS, the game would be dead. -Broken promises -Not listening to the gamers (customers) -Lack of communication (abscence of) -Console players, with all the money and time they spent, thrown to the ditch -Gaslight (Everybody wanted legs, no one wants ship interiors, etc) -Banning players just for asking questions -CM calling the players idiots (how quick we forget some things) -A first person shooter that no one wanted, and a really really bad one. -Stellar Froge abandoned forever, so forget about new system configurations or diversity. It won't happen. And don't talk about realism because it's not realistic. Every system is discovered, every body, is crazy and unique. Even in our solar system there are no 2 the same. Also, black holes in this game are a joke. -No atmospheric planets, not even Venus-like. which would be extremely easy to implement. -And now, pay to win (pre engineered ships you buy with real money) If people still play the game is because how good the Horizons part was, and because ED is still unique, and really really good at what it's good at. I am a console ED orphan, with about 4K hours, and the decision was extremely painful. I can't affor a PC, so I quit more than a year ago because there's no point on keep playing it. I've done everything, every mechanic, every build, every mission. But still, jumping into Odyssey is extremely uninteresting to me. I fell in love with the game, BECAUSE it wasn't a first person shooter. There are lots of good FPS out there if I wanted it. Legs were a meme in the community, but everybody wanted many other things before legs. Yes, I understand the HR issue and the decision, from a multi FKG billion dollar company...
are you on rage pills? Because one thing I don't want to be influenced by, is the amount of negativity like yourself are spreading on my channel. And since you are on the rage mode... take this one for size: th-cam.com/video/PFPcrfV9Avk/w-d-xo.html I mean people these days... I mean, what the actual fuck, talk about first world problems.
@@hydlidevlog "You dare disagree with me? How dare you be so negative! You should agree with everything I say instead of refuting my claims!" We're talking about issues with the game like you're talking about issues in the game, what do you mean "first world problems"?
Hope they one day come back to console an ps4 some day, or never how knows, i know i would even if it is impossible, but still can ve possible for a last ditch effort to fall back onto
Unfortunately I can’t afford to switch to pc to play and all the people I played with also can’t switch and they’ve yet to buy me or them a pc that can run the game I doubt I’ll be playing elite again any time soon.
@prisonerofthehighway1059 I'm disabled, I can't sit upright for very long, so I guess people like me are just SOL! 95% of games are developed first on pc, probably about 80% of those never come to console. Console players really do feel sometimes like 2nd class citizens, thrown the occasional scrap sometimes. I payed for ED on PS, just like everyone else paid for it on their platform. If you can't be arsed updating that version, then don't sell it on that platform
I believe that Frontier put a lot of money and effort into the Odyssey first person shooter addition to ED for both PC and consoles. Which then blew-up in their faces with it's disastrous launch. I'm presuming the Odyssey expansion didn't bring in the player numbers to support on-going console development, so Frontier decided to shutter the console versions. Now they're just drip feeding the bare minimum out to PC players. And with recent changes to the in-game economy, I'm wondering whether Frontier is now implementing planned decline in ED.
How was taking attention away from Elite Dangerous and put it into experimental flops that no one supported on PC? They should have released it on Console and they'd be a lot better off. They made their bed and now its time to lay in it. Serves them right.
Sad that console was canceled cause I've never been able to afford a computer good enough to run good games so console is only way to play and I know there's millions in the same boat.
Game still works fine on ps5. I'm happy to play on solo mode and enjoy an amazing game that is way better than the original elite that I played as a kid on a 48k spectrum
@@spacesoup6797No Man's Sky is constantly coming out with new updates, all for free, all in-house and released the same time as other platforms. Something FD can't seem to be able to do
Good luck thinking elite is gone get big updates. Frontier is bleeding money like there's no tomorow. At this rate they'll be broke within the next couple of years. If there's gone be any updates it'll be microtransaction styled updates. Their promise to only sell cosmetics already went out the Window. I still play on my ps5 time to time and I feel the console would have easily run the game, sad they dropped it but from their financial perspective I can see why they did.
Im sad frontier and sony are neglecting ps5. But thats okay, because i love this game, and have no intention of building a computer. So please, everyone, keep playing on console, and lets find every avenue to plead for frontier to keep at it, and put pressure on consoles to quit roadblocking them.
As a console player, I was upset, at first. Then I remembered the game wasn't that great and fdev certainly wasn't the best. I think the vast majority of console players were only playing the game because it was one of the few space sims on console. Outside of that, the game was actually pretty bad. The more I thought about it, the more I realized how much they failed to deliver, and I eventually deleted the game and moved on. Even if they decided to return to console, I don't think I would give them another chance.
That guy is from the netherlands i can hear his accent. They need to bring elite dangerous oddysee on xbox series X its not fair that they bringed on pc. Some one needs to kick the developers ass!!!
If you are not going to maintain your game on a console then you should not bring your game out on that console in the first place. This just pissed off PS5 players and they won't buy Frontier games in the future. They should have given back the money they took if they can't be bothered.
Really? 🙄 I'm glad you found your way out of that "dark void" -- but this issue has been done and dusted for ages. Rehashing it isn't going to change anything. I'm sorry for the players that were axed. But if it means the franchise can move forward, then I support the move. Every effort was made to mitigate the situation -- which Frontier was under no obligation to offer. Precious time and effort were spent devising a workaround that many were in position to take advantage of, fortunately. The whole affair nearly brought down the entire operation, Frontier having to dismiss, and reassess the business model. I was just watching a former console commander's stream where he was ecstatic to be back stuck in fresh with Odyssey taking his first real steps... He was glad he finally made the switch, so some are getting with the times -- swallowing their pride -- and getting back after it.
I played on console in testing fase and enjoyed the game for years. I visited the meet and greet presentations @ cologne twice I loved elite dangerous played it for over 80 days in hrs. Flew to Jaques station all that. And it's the first time in 43 years I've literally cried over a game. Not dumping but false promises and then pushed aside like a ex girlfriend. That's how frontier treated the console players. I'm never buying a frontier game again that's what happened. You really think people will buy a PC because of one game I have a console for a reason. After Robbert space industries is frontier the 2 most false promise ever! Wat n kut bedrijf hey!
@@scratchmr.9408 But here you are still carousing Elite threads like a lost little puppy.... And no -- there are plenty of reasons to buy a big boi computer other that to play ED. That's up to the individual. You have opted no, and are here, while others have, and are playing as I type. And keep in mind -- no one ever promised you anything. An attempt is not a promise.
It's about promise's then 3 times delay and the just dropping us like bricks. And that's not all after all the disappointed players with loads of horrible incident's. Like. 3 words the Oh no sis! Never again what a jipp. The alien site with the mystery and scanning etc and up to 3 times it find work just epic failure. The Jaques station debacle. We got a rover and could finally explore planets but then years nothing. Nothing to explore no flora fauna. Battle rovers etc etc etc. You know I'm not mad.... Just disappointed beyond belief. Bla bla bla we need to support 3 systems. It's easier to port from Xbox to PC en versa so why did they fucked us by bringing in the PS. Just created work and then it was to much work every time delays and finally canceled. Great service to people who invested and got things show etc. They told these plans on the first meet and greet I went to like in 2016
@@scratchmr.9408 i can remember a talk in 2012: you are able to walk around your ship. That will entale the gameplay. Because people are able to steal your ship. Did this ever happen? No it didn't. For some part I am actually glad this never happened though. But on that note, Elite Dangerous went to a path that is was never meant to be player-centric. So someone might be lied too... this all happens one day (Star Citizen is still a joke to be honest, and I won't go there). But in some form, promises are made to broken, how hard this may sound like. This comes from a guy who recently had a divorce.. where the promise is: you make a commitment until you die... she didn't die... she left with a person who is 25 years older then me. And you come before me with the argument of promises? Seriously... Personally, I see the whole change as a positive thing. As I am mentioning it in this video. Because supporting more then just one code base to mainain things. Well that's another thing. It's like having 2 wifes who have different demands. Basically...
Just came across this video by chance. Previous console only player here, and from this console gamers perspective what happened to Elite: Dangerous on consoles is pretty unforgivable. We always felt like second class citizens as it was.
There's no excuse citing 'technical challenges' when the Series X/S and Playstation 5 exist - these are capable machines and I'm certain if that was the only way Elite could have continued on consoles the community would have accepted that.
If it has "Frontier Developments" on it now, by default I do not buy. I made an exception recently (first one in years) but I've certainly spent *a lot* less money if it has their name attched to it. Fool me once...
With how poorly the on foot stuff runs on even high end computers, I highly doubt they would have been capable of getting it running even remotely acceptably on Series X/PS5 Pro. They just don't have the talent anymore, and haven't for a while.
@@schrombomb They actually haven't fixed the on-foot performance for conflict zones but tagged it as "fixed". That's as far as "talent" FDev actually has.
Very upset that they just abandoned console players. They were happy to take our money when we bought and supported the game. Now they just leave us behind.. Will never buy another game from them again.
Screw those developers they don't give a fuck about us! Some one needs to do something about it and kick there asses and then they will listen!
It's cited that the reason for cutting off consoles was budgetary reasons so they'd only have to support one codebase. Makes complete sense right? Gut and abandon two more widely-used platforms with less competition (no Star Citizen or other PC space games) in turn for an objective minority because you don't have to optimize as much when the machines are simply stronger!
Console only player, I played first ED on amiga in early 90’s. Love the game and unique ideas and implementation. I was really mad that odyssey went so wrong and consoles got dumped, but I can understand the logic and reasoning behind the move. I still think plenty of console players would rein-gauge if they even threw us a few scraps from time to time. Forget trying to make odyssey work on console, just port in new ships and customisation items, update community events and you have a cheap way to grab a bit of cash for fdev, some people would bitch and moan but it would ultimately please some console players and make financial sense.
I've been saying the same thing. Just keep console on horizons and give us the same BGS as odyssey. There's no reason we can't have the new ships and titans on consoles. The thargoids are already in the console version. Just split console from pc and make it cross gen for ps/xbox. Many developers do it so it's not impossible. But it's fdev and their track record speaks for itself.
Yes, easy to understand, but not to share. And BTW, easy to understand from a money point of view, which is absurd because consoles means more players, means more money. And that's your other take: "you have to sacrifice some things to make other things better". Better? Like what? Because I haven't seen that ED has significally improved at anything. The game bleeds players constantly, and if they didn't throw a bone from time to time, in this case a new ship, in other cases some thargoid war BS, the game would be dead.
-Broken promises
-Not listening to the gamers (customers)
-Lack of communication (abscence of)
-Console players, with all the money and time they spent, thrown to the ditch
-Gaslight (Everybody wanted legs, no one wants ship interiors, etc)
-Banning players just for asking questions
-CM calling the players idiots (how quick we forget some things)
-A first person shooter that no one wanted, and a really really bad one.
-Stellar Froge abandoned forever, so forget about new system configurations or diversity. It won't happen. And don't talk about realism because it's not realistic. Every system is discovered, every body, is crazy and unique. Even in our solar system there are no 2 the same. Also, black holes in this game are a joke.
-No atmospheric planets, not even Venus-like. which would be extremely easy to implement.
-And now, pay to win (pre engineered ships you buy with real money)
If people still play the game is because how good the Horizons part was, and because ED is still unique, and really really good at what it's good at.
I am a console ED orphan, with about 4K hours, and the decision was extremely painful. I can't affor a PC, so I quit more than a year ago because there's no point on keep playing it. I've done everything, every mechanic, every build, every mission. But still, jumping into Odyssey is extremely uninteresting to me. I fell in love with the game, BECAUSE it wasn't a first person shooter. There are lots of good FPS out there if I wanted it. Legs were a meme in the community, but everybody wanted many other things before legs.
Yes, I understand the HR issue and the decision, from a multi FKG billion dollar company...
are you on rage pills?
Because one thing I don't want to be influenced by, is the amount of negativity like yourself are spreading on my channel.
And since you are on the rage mode... take this one for size: th-cam.com/video/PFPcrfV9Avk/w-d-xo.html
I mean people these days... I mean, what the actual fuck, talk about first world problems.
@@hydlidevlogRegardless , he's still right
@@hydlidevlog "You dare disagree with me? How dare you be so negative! You should agree with everything I say instead of refuting my claims!"
We're talking about issues with the game like you're talking about issues in the game, what do you mean "first world problems"?
@@wickermind6668it's a game, every game has issues. So?
I've just transferred my account to pc tbh it's like a fresh start but with all my stuff 😅
Hope they one day come back to console an ps4 some day, or never how knows, i know i would even if it is impossible, but still can ve possible for a last ditch effort to fall back onto
If they come back, it won't come to Xbox one or ps4
Unfortunately I can’t afford to switch to pc to play and all the people I played with also can’t switch and they’ve yet to buy me or them a pc that can run the game I doubt I’ll be playing elite again any time soon.
I play ED at 1080p 60 on a 9 year old computer. You can absolutely move to pc for about the same price as a console.
@@prisonerofthehighway1059 you buying it for me?
@@JD-jr8nq just buy a pc next time instead of buckling on the console slave collar. Gaming is a lot more enjoyable when all the games are on sale.
@prisonerofthehighway1059 I'm disabled, I can't sit upright for very long, so I guess people like me are just SOL! 95% of games are developed first on pc, probably about 80% of those never come to console. Console players really do feel sometimes like 2nd class citizens, thrown the occasional scrap sometimes. I payed for ED on PS, just like everyone else paid for it on their platform. If you can't be arsed updating that version, then don't sell it on that platform
They better return to consoles at least ps5 no reason we can't play it especially that its thinking in the no mansky why recently
Couldn't care less honestly. Plays great on the PS5. I don't play this game to play with other players as it is.
What about the new console generation. You think they will do anything with that?
Nope
I believe that Frontier put a lot of money and effort into the Odyssey first person shooter addition to ED for both PC and consoles. Which then blew-up in their faces with it's disastrous launch.
I'm presuming the Odyssey expansion didn't bring in the player numbers to support on-going console development, so Frontier decided to shutter the console versions.
Now they're just drip feeding the bare minimum out to PC players.
And with recent changes to the in-game economy, I'm wondering whether Frontier is now implementing planned decline in ED.
How was taking attention away from Elite Dangerous and put it into experimental flops that no one supported on PC?
They should have released it on Console and they'd be a lot better off.
They made their bed and now its time to lay in it. Serves them right.
Sad that console was canceled cause I've never been able to afford a computer good enough to run good games so console is only way to play and I know there's millions in the same boat.
I play 1080p 60fps on a 9 year old computer. You can absolutely play ED on a computer that costs about the same as a console.
Game still works fine on ps5. I'm happy to play on solo mode and enjoy an amazing game that is way better than the original elite that I played as a kid on a 48k spectrum
Hey, wanna play with me?
no i want more features no mans sky isnt better at this point
@@spacesoup6797No Man's Sky is constantly coming out with new updates, all for free, all in-house and released the same time as other platforms. Something FD can't seem to be able to do
You play Star Citizen? All what you wanted. But alpha
Bring the game to PS5
Good luck thinking elite is gone get big updates. Frontier is bleeding money like there's no tomorow. At this rate they'll be broke within the next couple of years. If there's gone be any updates it'll be microtransaction styled updates. Their promise to only sell cosmetics already went out the Window. I still play on my ps5 time to time and I feel the console would have easily run the game, sad they dropped it but from their financial perspective I can see why they did.
Damn you called this
Im sad frontier and sony are neglecting ps5. But thats okay, because i love this game, and have no intention of building a computer. So please, everyone, keep playing on console, and lets find every avenue to plead for frontier to keep at it, and put pressure on consoles to quit roadblocking them.
Bring back odyssey on console please Fdev 😢
I will never buy another Frontier game until they bring Elite to consoles
As a console player, I was upset, at first. Then I remembered the game wasn't that great and fdev certainly wasn't the best. I think the vast majority of console players were only playing the game because it was one of the few space sims on console. Outside of that, the game was actually pretty bad. The more I thought about it, the more I realized how much they failed to deliver, and I eventually deleted the game and moved on. Even if they decided to return to console, I don't think I would give them another chance.
That guy is from the netherlands i can hear his accent.
They need to bring elite dangerous oddysee on xbox series X its not fair that they bringed on pc. Some one needs to kick the developers ass!!!
Console is FAR from dead
Really? I’ve been trying to find people
It's dead
@@josephheimroth554PlayStation has tons still playing
If you are not going to maintain your game on a console then you should not bring your game out on that console in the first place. This just pissed off PS5 players and they won't buy Frontier games in the future. They should have given back the money they took if they can't be bothered.
Its kinda sad
Meet good people on xbox, too
I wish I could get a refund we should sue frontier and sony for false advertising game should be complete or removed from playstation store
Really? 🙄
I'm glad you found your way out of that "dark void" -- but this issue has been done and dusted for ages. Rehashing it isn't going to change anything.
I'm sorry for the players that were axed. But if it means the franchise can move forward, then I support the move.
Every effort was made to mitigate the situation -- which Frontier was under no obligation to offer. Precious time and effort were spent devising a workaround that many were in position to take advantage of, fortunately. The whole affair nearly brought down the entire operation, Frontier having to dismiss, and reassess the business model.
I was just watching a former console commander's stream where he was ecstatic to be back stuck in fresh with Odyssey taking his first real steps... He was glad he finally made the switch, so some are getting with the times -- swallowing their pride -- and getting back after it.
I played on console in testing fase and enjoyed the game for years. I visited the meet and greet presentations @ cologne twice I loved elite dangerous played it for over 80 days in hrs. Flew to Jaques station all that.
And it's the first time in 43 years I've literally cried over a game. Not dumping but false promises and then pushed aside like a ex girlfriend.
That's how frontier treated the console players.
I'm never buying a frontier game again that's what happened.
You really think people will buy a PC because of one game
I have a console for a reason.
After Robbert space industries is frontier the 2 most false promise ever!
Wat n kut bedrijf hey!
@@scratchmr.9408 But here you are still carousing Elite threads like a lost little puppy....
And no -- there are plenty of reasons to buy a big boi computer other that to play ED. That's up to the individual. You have opted no, and are here, while others have, and are playing as I type.
And keep in mind -- no one ever promised you anything. An attempt is not a promise.
It's about promise's then 3 times delay and the just dropping us like bricks.
And that's not all after all the disappointed players with loads of horrible incident's.
Like. 3 words the Oh no sis! Never again what a jipp.
The alien site with the mystery and scanning etc and up to 3 times it find work just epic failure. The Jaques station debacle.
We got a rover and could finally explore planets but then years nothing. Nothing to explore no flora fauna. Battle rovers etc etc etc.
You know I'm not mad.... Just disappointed beyond belief.
Bla bla bla we need to support 3 systems. It's easier to port from Xbox to PC en versa so why did they fucked us by bringing in the PS. Just created work and then it was to much work every time delays and finally canceled. Great service to people who invested and got things show etc. They told these plans on the first meet and greet I went to like in 2016
@@Tamburello_1994 did did promise and they had trailers etc. Btw. No one was allowed to film at presentations do so there is no proof I guess.
@@scratchmr.9408 i can remember a talk in 2012: you are able to walk around your ship. That will entale the gameplay. Because people are able to steal your ship. Did this ever happen? No it didn't. For some part I am actually glad this never happened though. But on that note, Elite Dangerous went to a path that is was never meant to be player-centric. So someone might be lied too... this all happens one day (Star Citizen is still a joke to be honest, and I won't go there). But in some form, promises are made to broken, how hard this may sound like.
This comes from a guy who recently had a divorce.. where the promise is: you make a commitment until you die... she didn't die... she left with a person who is 25 years older then me. And you come before me with the argument of promises? Seriously...
Personally, I see the whole change as a positive thing. As I am mentioning it in this video. Because supporting more then just one code base to mainain things. Well that's another thing. It's like having 2 wifes who have different demands. Basically...
Yeah
Its a pain to have to do 3 different
Development kits or other codes to integrate
👆🙄Deep learning AI
Probably
It's not difficult if you have talent. My wife works in game development and it's really not difficult