Brilliant video! I've just found out that my new XM+ receiver has the wrong firmware for my transmitter and I didn't want to risk updating the firmware via the S.Bus pin!!!! I spotted your video, where you risked your receiver for the benefit of the rest of us. Thank you. :)
Trying to bind (FrSky XM PLUS Mini) To my (FrSky X-Lite pro. EDGTX V2.10.3 ) internal RF module or (iRangeX iRX4 Lite V1.3.4.0 AETR)external RF module I was able to flash XM PLUS Mini with (V170313 FCC rssi 8) The internal RF MODUAL I CAN'T FLASH IT WITH (V 1.1.3 ) (FW update error device not responding) I can flash it with (V 2.1.10.frsk ) successful
I hadn't heard about any issues in downgrading the internal module, but then again I stayed well away from v2.x. I haven't touched FrSky in a while, but I saw this thread intofpv.com/t-internal-xjt-d16-d8-mode which talks about a specific firmware version that sounds like it's worth a try
Hi, I have 2 of these XM+ recievers , I have tried to bind them to my tyro119, it does bind and my channels work but I keep getting badrx and rxloss when trying to arm... Will flashing the XM+ resolve my issue???
On one occasion I've had a very poor range rx which was solved by reflashing - but it's more the exception to the rule. Certainly doesn't hurt to try, but before that I would check all your wiring/solder. If you are getting bad rx/rx loss try powering on and hold the rx in your fingers/thumbs and put light pressure on different parts to see if any led's go out, or it produces those errors on your OSD. It's more likely the case that either a physical connection/wire or the rx is bad.
hey, thanks for the video BUT, i flashed it with normal polarity on my x7, successfully... at least the flashing part. i can´t seem to bind the x7 with the XM+, x7 firmware is EU and the XM+ too, i even tried several versions, but always the solid red and green lights... can you or somebody else help me on that one?
I noticed that someone once had an issue binding to an XM+ from a Q7 on the EU versions and eventually worked it back as being the version on my internal XJT module (see here www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,52591.15.html) I don't know if this is the case, it's certainly complaining about firmware mismatch - worth checking out what version of the Internal module firmware you are using.
Please help why does this stuff have to be so confusing. I have no green LED from my xm frysky receiver only red led flashing when trying to bind no matter what i try Does this mean that the receiver is bad?
Your receiver is going into bind mode - which is a good step (solid red light would be much worse) if you radio isn't binding with the receiver, the most obvious thing to check is whether your Taranis's internal XJT module is running the same type of firmware as the RX (either international or EU) ?
Hi Wayne. Will this work with a Jumper T16 as well? I've got a brand new GEPRC Phantom (toothpick) with XM+ and I'm not getting RSSI in my OSD or on the Jumper's screen. I've set RSSI to aux 14 in the Receiver page in Betaflight and aux14 is jumping around like mad, but nothing in OSD or TX screen... Not sure what to do to get RSSI. @8:50, you mentioned that these RXs "don't do telemetry", and then go on to explain you *CAN'T* use RSSI to find a downed quad? That confused me.
Definitely aux14? Normally you'll see RSSI on channel 16, which is aux12. If it is 14 then it's probably not RSSI as these can only use 16 channels and aux14 would be channel 18. Make sure you have OSD active on your OSD screen as well. But yes, you can flash the T16 with the pins in the modul bay in the same way as a Taranis. As far as telemetry goes - the XM+ isn't a telemetry receiver, it doesn't send any info back to the quad. If you do get a telemetry signal (such as from an R-XSR) then should you lose your video in a crash you can look at the RSSI on your radio screen to work out if you are getting closer/further away from your quad. You could do this, of course, on an XM+ if you are still getting a video signal nicely - but when upside down in a thick bush, you have to be a lot closer.
Hi Wayne, I have just flashed my XM+ to include RSSI and all looks like it went well, weird thing is I didn't need to re-bind afterwards though which has thrown me a little, have you ever had this happen? Just went from FCC to FCC with rssi.
I don't know to be honest. I generally do the flashing before I ever bind it and solder in place.... I might have reflashed, but then I can't remember if I rebound afterwards. Could be that (guesswork here) the bind info if kept on a complete seperate bit of NVRAM (or something) that where the FW lives. Pure speculation, I'm not at all sure of the makeup of these things :)
Thank you for the informative video. I was able to successfully update the firmware but I cant get into bind mode. When I hold down the bind button and power up all I get is a solid red light. No green light at all. Ive tried all of the different firmware versions (fcc/lbt) and checked the power source is a steady 5v. Even tried the old pre 2.x.x firmwares. Any ideas?
I was going to flash firmware on a XM, but when selecting the file on the taranis, i only get DELETE option. I dont get the FLASH EXTERNAL DEVICE option.
Now that you're the second person to mention this, I've added something to the end of the description. You must be only early OpenTX firmware. Don't worry, it's easy to upgrade, and this will then give you the flashing option (read extended description above)
Which radio are you using to flash ? If you are using a QX7, then check this video out th-cam.com/video/3NObP3uhaao/w-d-xo.html as I made it after finding out that the later X7's use a different port for flashing
Sorry, it was a bit dark there filming into a black against black thing. So bottom pin in the module bay is signal, next pin up is ground and next one up is is 5v. The top two pins in the bay aren't used. I put out an updated video to this here th-cam.com/video/3NObP3uhaao/w-d-xo.html where you can hopefully see them a bit clearer
Curious... when you bind a xm+. Do i choose 1-16 telem on or 1-16 telem off... or the 1st 2 option with 1-8 telem on or 1-8 telem off? I bound to 1-16 telem off.
Jan Domingo just to be clear, it's not a binding option (it's which firmware you flash it with) and it's not telemetry (it's RSSI) I generally use 16 channels where ch16 is RSSI
Jan Domingo ah ok. I don't remember having the option to tell the radio to expect telemetry or not (away from radio this week) you want an x16. So 16 channels, no telem
ok new problem with new a XM+, FW flashes fine no problem there but when trying to bind i don`t get red and green flashing just solid.. ive tried same fw version you are using and 2 other LBT versions.. ive only got the XM+ connected to FC BF F3 board using USB which powers 5v to the FC so not in a fully built frame but that shouldn't matter as it has power. any ideas ?
As long as the rx is getting power from somewhere, it's not fussy - so your config isn't an issue. Are you running LBT on your radio, or the International firmware (as you've said you've tried both) obviously you need to make sure you are matching up on both here, else they won't bind at all. If that looks good make sure your rx and radio are separated with a bit more space - mine were a bit close here, and the signal can overwhelm the rx.
CurryKitten I updated taranis before using opentx so I would have thought it would auto detect which firmware to install.. you think there is a way to download EU taranis FW manually ?? I was meaning I tried 2 different XM+ FW versions but both LBT..
Ah - ok. There's the firmware running on the Taranis, the OS if you will, and then there's the firmware that runs on the internal XJT module in the Taranis, which is where the whole EU/nonEU versions come into play. I've not touched mine, so I can't speak from experience, but you should be able to get it here www.frsky-rc.com/download/view.php?sort=&down=232&file=Firmware-XJT and then flash your internal TX with it. Hopefully things will all match up then and bind for you
Wrong video for this question :) Yes you can, as all you have to do is download the new Firefly firmware and put it on the memory card in the camera and then turn it on. There's nothing specific to either OSX or Windows in this. (Google translate) video sbagliato per questa domanda :) Sì, è possibile, come tutto ciò che dovete fare è scaricare il nuovo firmware Firefly e metterlo sulla scheda di memoria nella fotocamera e poi accenderlo. Non c'è niente di specifico a uno OSX o Windows in questo.
Do you have a QX7 ? If so then also check this video out th-cam.com/video/3NObP3uhaao/w-d-xo.html I presume you found out you get the firmware from the FrSky website ok, and that yes, you can solder cables on to the XM+ to flash it
Hi, I followed everything precisely and all seemed good but when I get to the point of flash external device I get 'FW update error bottom pin no response' which is indicating that the white wire isn't connected properly (?) but it is. I get no light indicator on the receiver though.. not sure what the problem could be
Well, I didn't know about this, but having done a bit of checking, it seems like the opentx guys now use the s-port on the bottom of the X7 for firmware flashing. I'll have a go of this myself, and do a quick update video once I'm happy. I've got an X7 but tend to use my X9D still
CurryKitten - That would be great. I have tried the port on the bottom of the controller but it still failed to flash. I'm at a total loss as to what I can do now. I bought 3 XM+ receivers for 3 different quads (which all have no receivers) so I really need to get to the bottom of this!
hi, can you flash the firmware on the r-xsr while it is in situ through beta flight or similar? recently just refreshed everything else over to EU and my non eu quad won't bind. id rather do it in place than take it all apart. cheers. great videos by the way :)
Well, there's no passthrough via an FC if that's what you mean, you have to physically connect the Taranis to the receiver. On the bright side though, at least the R-XSR has a connector that you can take off and reconnect.... unlike an XM+ where you mostly have to resolder/resolder
My receiver doesn't bind. How can I know which firmware do I need in my receiver? I say it because if I install the version that I already have I will be wasting my time. Thanks
You need to match the firmware on the receiver with what's on your radio. It basically comes down to running the International firmware, or the EU LBT one. If they don't match, you won't be able to bind
i have a big problem i have these receiver and a tatanis q x7 and when i go to betaflight (without touching the transmitter ) all the things are going up and down and when i move the receiver it just randomly move channels
How much movement are they having - you might see a bit of jitter where it moves up and down a few points, but not huge movments. So things to check: do you definately have the right UART selected for SBUS (try the others as an easy test). Check you have the right serial provider setup in your configuration TAB (SBUS for FrSky)
CurryKitten i have another problem , i have the drone ready. In betafligh the 3d model works fine with the transmitter but when i try to use the drone just using the throttle it make like a flip and sometimes even it dosen't respnd to what i am doing . i don't know what i am doing wrong
If you can take me through what you've done to setup so far, that might help. Did you calibrate your ESCs (don't need to if running dshot) ?If you go into the motor tab (take your props off) and run each motor up, is everything smooth - do you see any excessive vibration in the graphs when these motors are spun up ? What mode are you attempting to fly in ?
okay when i finished soldering i enter in betaflight and flash the fc to the newest version and i did the same with the esc's then i started configuring the controller with betafligh and change the inputs because they where inverted and i set up the arm , failsafe and angle switches so it should be ready to flight (i have calibrated the esc's ) and sometimes i move the stick and the drone dosen't act at all and i unplug the batery and plug it again and slowly start moving the throttle and when i reach more than the half of the throttle the motors start moving unevenly and it flips. I don't know what i have done wrong or what to do now
Should work, but I can't tell you it's ok for sure, unless I've done it myself... which I haven't. If you want to be 100% safe, then desolder, flash and then solder back in
Is this because of the taranis? I just got a drone from bangood and cannot bind to my taranis x9d. I get a solid red and green. Is this because the reciever is older or my taranis? thanks
If you get a green and red light when you are attempting to bind, it signifies that there's a firmware mismatch. Coming from banggood it'll probably be running International/FCC firmware, if you are in Europe you are likely to have the LBT version of the firmware on the radio... in which case flash the LBT firmware onto the XM (see video on how).
As far as which version of the firmware you are running in the internal module, no. But based on you being in the US and buying from HK, odds on you'd have the FCC version. So does the XM rx show both LEDs just when you turn it on, or only when you attempt to bind to it ?
Hi friend i have a freeX McFx O-1 quadcopter but it want take off not getting any customer care from gear best please please please can you help any good quad repaire centre if you don't have a Dji its hard to get your quad fixed any friends and places you know of please gadgetman 404 out
*Goes off to google freeX mcFx O-1* Hmm ok, and does it just tip over when you try and take off as per your video ? First off, see if you can go down a PayPal dispute with GearBest - if you can do that, no messing about. I'm not sure a generic quad repair centre exists (perhaps a gap in the market), unless you do have something expensive and behind a very big international company like DJI then you are going the hobbyist route where you figure it out and fix it. Good news - is some of these components are generic. Brushless motors, escs - easy to look at. A proprietary flight controller, less so. My first quest would be "does it work in non-gps mode", followed by redoing the compass calibration, and then plugging it in the computer and looking at the gyro and accelerometer read out to see if it moves as it should and then stays put when it's still. Is your lipo definitely charged up ok ? Seeking help from a community will move you along faster - if you have a few basic tools: screw drivers, multi meter, soldering iron, then join a forum, explain issue - what you've tried so far etc
Hi there with all the controversy about Frsky reciever firmware update I was wondering were I could get an older version of non-eu RSSI 16 for the XM+ Cheers Phil
Yes - it's a bit hidden. If you go to the regular firmware page here www.frsky-rc.com/xm-plus-mini-sbus-non-telemetry-full-range/ there's a link that says "History firmware DOWNLOAD (not compatible with v2.x.x)" clicking on the word download will get you the pre-2.x.x firmware you want.
Do you think it’s possible to run just the sbus wire to the Taranis for XM+ firmware upgrade if the power comes from the Flight controller Cheers Phil😊
I'm not sure - I don't know if the radio does anything special to stop it booting up normally. It doesn't, for example, supply power until it tries to flash it
I can see why you would want to flash this to a non EU version as all your kit is non EU but if you were starting out would you just stick with the EU version?
It's more about matching it up with what you radio is running. So if you bought a Taranis from the UK then it'll have the EU firmware (not that you can't change that as well) but as I mentioned sometimes you'll find receivers at super cheap prices at the big Chinese warehouses like Banggood in which case you'd want to flash these from the International firmware to EU. Part of the reason I'm on International, is they didn't have the EU version when I got it, but also the EU version has a lower sensitivity (-90dBm vs -104dBm on International) which translates into lower range. For most people - especially not pushing the limits, it's unlikely to be a problem - but for me I'll stick with what I have :)
I just ordered one of these XM + RXs from T9 Wayne.....You can still get the International Firmware version from T9 if you want it....I like the fact I will be able to bury it out on a wingtip, and the range is supposed to be pretty good too. Using it with an Omnibus F4 FC.
Cheaper from China. I flash all mine as a matter of course now - mainly because I want the RSSI version of the firmware (that puts RSSI PWM out on ch 16) They are so trivial to flash that I don't even make any proper connections, I just hold in the pin headers until it's done :)
Yeah, cheaper, but I didn't want to wait...I liked how you re-named the Firmware file into something far more appropriate, what is it about naming Firmware Files and software engineers..?...They all do it, it must be in their Genes or something.
LOL...yeah, its like they want to keep it a secret from their end users, just to confuse them fully and piss them off...:) Pretty sure they could include the RX type AND the build # in the title..? I had to flash my new XM Plus with the latest firmware in order to get RSSI out along channel 16....Works good in iNAV...Actually 29/3/2017 is the latest version of the Firmware.
You need to swap them to match the pin order on the module bay on the Taranis. Later models may use a smart port connector underneath where (I think) the ordering doesn't need to be messed around with
The rx will have firmware on it, but you won't be able to hazard a guess of what version unless you connect it up and try and use it. I find it easier to flash before doing this - just so I know it's on what I want it to be
In terms of the specific version, no (or at least none that I know of) But in terms of if it's International or EU firmware - then your radio won't bind to an rx running International firmware if you are on EU Taranis firmware, and visa versa
Yes - the manual shows one pad as being RSSI and states it should put out 0-3.3v (I've not tested this out though) Of course you can also flash with the RSSI firmware and it'll put out ch 16 as the PWM RSSI value if you have a floight controller that will pick that up
Normally yes - the latest firmware (version 170313) has the code in for the FCC (international version) and LBT (EU Version) versions with RSSI on channel 8 or channel 16 (the firmware that doesn't list RSSI is the default normal 16 channel). If you hit any issues try the previous level of firmware (version 161221) I need to do some more testing to check it, but I seemed to have issuers on a few receviers on the latest firmware, where the previous level was fine... but the latst is usually fine.
Yes, if you are binding using the FCC version it means you have the non-eu/international version for firmware on your internal XJT module in your radio
The question of flashing is a good one, the 9x can run OpenTX, so you might presume it could flash a receiver, but I don't know. This is going to be a moot point in your setup though, as the XM+ runs in D16 mode, which means that a DJT module won't support it (you need an XJT module instead)
Yes the QX7 is basically a Taranis X9D with a slight lower res screen, no sliders, and two less 3 position switches. It is however, much nicer to hold and has a rotary dial which makes configuring things much better (that the X9D's arrow buttons)
Oops, I hadn't noticed I'd gone down and downloaded the version history version. How did I miss that massive download link there :) Well spotted, I'll stick a note on the video pointing this out
I've got the XM+, but that's not helpful. I don't know what's up with FrSky's site - hacked perhaps. Showing lots of popup ads, and their SQL is broken
One thing I didn't mention as I figured everyone might be on the later radios now is the firmware running on your Taranis. To flash receivers, you'll need to be on OpenTX 2.1 (I thought it was just people like me that got the original batch that needed to think of it) Upgrading is a doddle, but if you are moving from a much earlier version you might need to change a few models as some of the mix sources might change (So I found some that should have been MAX were set to something else) but you can backup everything first. Go to www.open-tx.org/ and download the OpenTX companion - this will let you backup your radio and upgrade the firmware then you can get going again :)
Good presentation helped me alot - you having a Mac did throw me a bit, but reading between the lines did manage too bind my XM+ thanx Did notice that your taranis RF Mode was set at D16 and channel range = ch1-8 why not ch1-16. Would it mean your Tx transmit only 8channels...joe
I didn't notice that. I did start using 8 channels as I figure I wouldn't need 16 and you can use a lower frame rate which means that you'd get ever such slightly less latency. However, having tried both I do't notice the difference at all, so I now normally use 16 channels with ch 16 as RSSI
Gotcha - so a year has passed since you did the video and the update version has changed (now V170313) = progress There are 6 listed downloads within V170313, numbers 4 and 6 applies to me, I notice that No6 has a reference to RSSI does that mean it would give me acess to RSSI cos I chose No4 with out it...joe
I did another update video on this BTW, but now super-new info. The clue is in the titles for the type of firmware you have, so in the 170313 zip you will have FCC170313 and LBT170313 varients depending on what sort offirmware you are running. Then the just .frk file - the standard 16 channel firmware, then the RSSI8.frk and RSSI16.frk which are the versions that have the RSSI output on channel 8 or 16
Impressive you have two different T-Shirts during the video lol I did not even know that there was an EU firmware and an international firmware for their receivers! That's pretty crazy! What is the reason of this? Have a great weekend
There's some EU rule so this is FrSky making their receivers compliant. LBT means "Listen before talk". I don't know what this entails, but I do know that the sensitivity of the receivers are reduced, and hence range is impacted.
Well on these XM+ receivers, they don't have telemetry, so you won't get RSSI. As for this in general I'm going to do a video on finding a downed quad as part of my "tips for new flyers" series, so I'll cover how to do that.
The T8SG runs Devention doesn't it? I don't think you can flash from it (but I'm no expert on this) you might have to buy the adapter to allow you to flash from your pc if not
@@electroddxful Ok, no experience in doing this myself, but it seems to be this one www.banggood.com/FrSky-STK-S_port-Tool-Kit-for-Upgrade-S_Port-Products-for-RC-Drone-p-1099105.html which sounds wrong as they mention it's for s.ports (which the XM+ doesn't have) but it works... apparently.
I have a devo 7e and finally got a successful bind last night, range test was great everything working smoothly. It was bound for maybe and hour. I was getting a perfect signal in test mode no matter how hard I tried to make it loose signal around the house. Xm+ here. I was in betaflight setting some switches up and the receiver just stopped working. I was changing the aux channels on the transmitter for flight modes in betaflight and it just stopped receiving. When I power it lights up dim solid green/red and doesn't do anything, no different if I power it on while holding the bind key. It should be a bright solid green and blinking red in bind mode. Sometimes if I wait a while to plug a battery in and don't hit the bind key it will light up solid red. I tried to bind it again but nothing happens. I'm at a complete loss. I reset the profile and tried to bind again no luck.
the exact thing happened to me! funny thing is I was using a radio that has the same deviation software.. I was also setting up things in betaflight when it just stopped working with the 2 dim lights
I ended up returning the receiver, the new one has been working fine ever since. Flashing the old one did not solve the issue, in fact it wouldn't flash.
RavageBullet thanks for your reply! I was thinking that may be the case as I've also been reading these are sometimes hit and miss. I'll be ordering a new one! They work amazing when they do
@@zingzing_media That's normally a firmware mismatch. Is it possible you've got LBT firmware on the XM+ and you are attempting to bind in regular D16 mode?
Brilliant video! I've just found out that my new XM+ receiver has the wrong firmware for my transmitter and I didn't want to risk updating the firmware via the S.Bus pin!!!! I spotted your video, where you risked your receiver for the benefit of the rest of us. Thank you. :)
Trying to bind (FrSky XM PLUS Mini)
To my (FrSky X-Lite pro. EDGTX V2.10.3 ) internal RF module or (iRangeX iRX4 Lite V1.3.4.0 AETR)external RF module
I was able to flash XM PLUS Mini with
(V170313 FCC rssi 8)
The internal RF MODUAL I CAN'T FLASH
IT WITH (V 1.1.3 ) (FW update error device not responding)
I can flash it with (V 2.1.10.frsk ) successful
I hadn't heard about any issues in downgrading the internal module, but then again I stayed well away from v2.x. I haven't touched FrSky in a while, but I saw this thread intofpv.com/t-internal-xjt-d16-d8-mode which talks about a specific firmware version that sounds like it's worth a try
Hi, I have 2 of these XM+ recievers , I have tried to bind them to my tyro119, it does bind and my channels work but I keep getting badrx and rxloss when trying to arm...
Will flashing the XM+ resolve my issue???
On one occasion I've had a very poor range rx which was solved by reflashing - but it's more the exception to the rule. Certainly doesn't hurt to try, but before that I would check all your wiring/solder. If you are getting bad rx/rx loss try powering on and hold the rx in your fingers/thumbs and put light pressure on different parts to see if any led's go out, or it produces those errors on your OSD. It's more likely the case that either a physical connection/wire or the rx is bad.
Thank that was halpfull, awesome video!!!
hey, thanks for the video
BUT, i flashed it with normal polarity on my x7, successfully... at least the flashing part.
i can´t seem to bind the x7 with the XM+, x7 firmware is EU and the XM+ too, i even tried several versions, but always the solid red and green lights... can you or somebody else help me on that one?
I noticed that someone once had an issue binding to an XM+ from a Q7 on the EU versions and eventually worked it back as being the version on my internal XJT module (see here www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,52591.15.html) I don't know if this is the case, it's certainly complaining about firmware mismatch - worth checking out what version of the Internal module firmware you are using.
Thanks, awesome video, just the info and instruction I needed.
Glad it helped
Please help why does this stuff have to be so confusing.
I have no green LED from my xm frysky receiver only red led flashing when trying to bind no matter what i try
Does this mean that the receiver is bad?
Your receiver is going into bind mode - which is a good step (solid red light would be much worse) if you radio isn't binding with the receiver, the most obvious thing to check is whether your Taranis's internal XJT module is running the same type of firmware as the RX (either international or EU) ?
Hey thanks for the very good info! Where can I can one of those connectors to link the receiver with the xm+? Mine didn't come with one
Hi Wayne. Will this work with a Jumper T16 as well? I've got a brand new GEPRC Phantom (toothpick) with XM+ and I'm not getting RSSI in my OSD or on the Jumper's screen. I've set RSSI to aux 14 in the Receiver page in Betaflight and aux14 is jumping around like mad, but nothing in OSD or TX screen... Not sure what to do to get RSSI.
@8:50, you mentioned that these RXs "don't do telemetry", and then go on to explain you *CAN'T* use RSSI to find a downed quad? That confused me.
Definitely aux14? Normally you'll see RSSI on channel 16, which is aux12. If it is 14 then it's probably not RSSI as these can only use 16 channels and aux14 would be channel 18. Make sure you have OSD active on your OSD screen as well. But yes, you can flash the T16 with the pins in the modul bay in the same way as a Taranis.
As far as telemetry goes - the XM+ isn't a telemetry receiver, it doesn't send any info back to the quad. If you do get a telemetry signal (such as from an R-XSR) then should you lose your video in a crash you can look at the RSSI on your radio screen to work out if you are getting closer/further away from your quad. You could do this, of course, on an XM+ if you are still getting a video signal nicely - but when upside down in a thick bush, you have to be a lot closer.
@@CurryKitten Thanks for the super quick reply.
My bad. I was on the wrong channel. Yes, aux 12, so I've now got RSSI in my goggles.
Thanks again.
Hi Wayne, I have just flashed my XM+ to include RSSI and all looks like it went well, weird thing is I didn't need to re-bind afterwards though which has thrown me a little, have you ever had this happen? Just went from FCC to FCC with rssi.
I don't know to be honest. I generally do the flashing before I ever bind it and solder in place.... I might have reflashed, but then I can't remember if I rebound afterwards. Could be that (guesswork here) the bind info if kept on a complete seperate bit of NVRAM (or something) that where the FW lives. Pure speculation, I'm not at all sure of the makeup of these things :)
Thank you for the informative video. I was able to successfully update the firmware but I cant get into bind mode. When I hold down the bind button and power up all I get is a solid red light. No green light at all. Ive tried all of the different firmware versions (fcc/lbt) and checked the power source is a steady 5v. Even tried the old pre 2.x.x firmwares. Any ideas?
same
I was going to flash firmware on a XM, but when selecting the file on the taranis, i only get DELETE option. I dont get the FLASH EXTERNAL DEVICE option.
Now that you're the second person to mention this, I've added something to the end of the description. You must be only early OpenTX firmware. Don't worry, it's easy to upgrade, and this will then give you the flashing option (read extended description above)
Thanks. Actually im still using open tx 2.0. Will upgrade and try again.
I just did what you said, but it gives this error
" update error bottom pin no resp "
can you help me ?
Which radio are you using to flash ? If you are using a QX7, then check this video out th-cam.com/video/3NObP3uhaao/w-d-xo.html as I made it after finding out that the later X7's use a different port for flashing
So... 5V from rx to bottom pin servo lead, middle wire is ground? top wire is signal? Could not make that up from your video.
Sorry, it was a bit dark there filming into a black against black thing. So bottom pin in the module bay is signal, next pin up is ground and next one up is is 5v. The top two pins in the bay aren't used. I put out an updated video to this here th-cam.com/video/3NObP3uhaao/w-d-xo.html where you can hopefully see them a bit clearer
@@CurryKitten thx, for qx7 taranis, oscar liang had the info on his website, did it, it worked, fairly easy indeed!
Curious... when you bind a xm+. Do i choose 1-16 telem on or 1-16 telem off... or the 1st 2 option with 1-8 telem on or 1-8 telem off? I bound to 1-16 telem off.
Jan Domingo just to be clear, it's not a binding option (it's which firmware you flash it with) and it's not telemetry (it's RSSI) I generally use 16 channels where ch16 is RSSI
CurryKitten i understand that. What im asking when binding a xm+ to my qx7 which option do i choose?
Jan Domingo ah ok. I don't remember having the option to tell the radio to expect telemetry or not (away from radio this week) you want an x16. So 16 channels, no telem
ok new problem with new a XM+, FW flashes fine no problem there but when trying to bind i don`t get red and green flashing just solid.. ive tried same fw version you are using and 2 other LBT versions.. ive only got the XM+ connected to FC BF F3 board using USB which powers 5v to the FC so not in a fully built frame but that shouldn't matter as it has power. any ideas ?
As long as the rx is getting power from somewhere, it's not fussy - so your config isn't an issue. Are you running LBT on your radio, or the International firmware (as you've said you've tried both) obviously you need to make sure you are matching up on both here, else they won't bind at all. If that looks good make sure your rx and radio are separated with a bit more space - mine were a bit close here, and the signal can overwhelm the rx.
CurryKitten I updated taranis before using opentx so I would have thought it would auto detect which firmware to install.. you think there is a way to download EU taranis FW manually ?? I was meaning I tried 2 different XM+ FW versions but both LBT..
Ah - ok. There's the firmware running on the Taranis, the OS if you will, and then there's the firmware that runs on the internal XJT module in the Taranis, which is where the whole EU/nonEU versions come into play. I've not touched mine, so I can't speak from experience, but you should be able to get it here www.frsky-rc.com/download/view.php?sort=&down=232&file=Firmware-XJT and then flash your internal TX with it. Hopefully things will all match up then and bind for you
CurryKitten ok I think I have international FW on the Taranis as I have mode settings D8,D16 & LR12 so I'll try installing LBT FW on the taranis..
on my x9 lite i dont get the second device. What do i do :/
Ciao vedo che usi un Mac , vorrei chiederti se posso aggiornare il firefly 7 con Mac book, grazie
Wrong video for this question :) Yes you can, as all you have to do is download the new Firefly firmware and put it on the memory card in the camera and then turn it on. There's nothing specific to either OSX or Windows in this.
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video sbagliato per questa domanda :) Sì, è possibile, come tutto ciò che dovete fare è scaricare il nuovo firmware Firefly e metterlo sulla scheda di memoria nella fotocamera e poi accenderlo. Non c'è niente di specifico a uno OSX o Windows in questo.
Grazie
If i dont have those cables can i just solder them directly on the pins and desolder them after? Where can i get the xm+ firmware?
I tried flashing it but i got a response bottom pin no response?
Do you have a QX7 ? If so then also check this video out th-cam.com/video/3NObP3uhaao/w-d-xo.html I presume you found out you get the firmware from the FrSky website ok, and that yes, you can solder cables on to the XM+ to flash it
CurryKitten i found out how to flash the hard way lol
Hi, I followed everything precisely and all seemed good but when I get to the point of flash external device I get 'FW update error bottom pin no response' which is indicating that the white wire isn't connected properly (?) but it is. I get no light indicator on the receiver though.. not sure what the problem could be
Same here... Use the X7 trans
@Gerard Darkforce - yeah, I'm using the Taranis X7. Did you manage to work it out?
Use the the port on the bottom next to sdcard, Its now working for me
Well, I didn't know about this, but having done a bit of checking, it seems like the opentx guys now use the s-port on the bottom of the X7 for firmware flashing. I'll have a go of this myself, and do a quick update video once I'm happy. I've got an X7 but tend to use my X9D still
CurryKitten - That would be great. I have tried the port on the bottom of the controller but it still failed to flash. I'm at a total loss as to what I can do now. I bought 3 XM+ receivers for 3 different quads (which all have no receivers) so I really need to get to the bottom of this!
hi, can you flash the firmware on the r-xsr while it is in situ through beta flight or similar? recently just refreshed everything else over to EU and my non eu quad won't bind. id rather do it in place than take it all apart. cheers. great videos by the way :)
Well, there's no passthrough via an FC if that's what you mean, you have to physically connect the Taranis to the receiver. On the bright side though, at least the R-XSR has a connector that you can take off and reconnect.... unlike an XM+ where you mostly have to resolder/resolder
CurryKitten yes that would be a bright side... if I hadn’t hot glued my rx lead in place because I loosened the pin to much 😂😂😂😂
It seems that every silver lining has a cloud :) A more time intensive job I'm afraid
thank you very much, i'm learning this :)
My receiver doesn't bind. How can I know which firmware do I need in my receiver? I say it because if I install the version that I already have I will be wasting my time. Thanks
You need to match the firmware on the receiver with what's on your radio. It basically comes down to running the International firmware, or the EU LBT one. If they don't match, you won't be able to bind
CurryKitten how will i know which remote version i have?
i have a big problem i have these receiver and a tatanis q x7 and when i go to betaflight (without touching the transmitter ) all the things are going up and down and when i move the receiver it just randomly move channels
How much movement are they having - you might see a bit of jitter where it moves up and down a few points, but not huge movments. So things to check: do you definately have the right UART selected for SBUS (try the others as an easy test). Check you have the right serial provider setup in your configuration TAB (SBUS for FrSky)
thanks . I have done that but i forgot that i updated the firmware
CurryKitten i have another problem , i have the drone ready. In betafligh the 3d model works fine with the transmitter but when i try to use the drone just using the throttle it make like a flip and sometimes even it dosen't respnd to what i am doing . i don't know what i am doing wrong
If you can take me through what you've done to setup so far, that might help. Did you calibrate your ESCs (don't need to if running dshot) ?If you go into the motor tab (take your props off) and run each motor up, is everything smooth - do you see any excessive vibration in the graphs when these motors are spun up ? What mode are you attempting to fly in ?
okay when i finished soldering i enter in betaflight and flash the fc to the newest version and i did the same with the esc's then i started configuring the controller with betafligh and change the inputs because they where inverted and i set up the arm , failsafe and angle switches so it should be ready to flight (i have calibrated the esc's ) and sometimes i move the stick and the drone dosen't act at all and i unplug the batery and plug it again and slowly start moving the throttle and when i reach more than the half of the throttle the motors start moving unevenly and it flips. I don't know what i have done wrong or what to do now
Can I flash my reciever while it is still soldered to my flight controller using jumpers?
I haven't tried as I don't have anything that will clamp onto the joints accurately and reliably enough to do this. In theory, it should be fine
I just want to be sure it wont brick my flight controller. I have those wire hook Bob things they will attach nicely
Should work, but I can't tell you it's ok for sure, unless I've done it myself... which I haven't. If you want to be 100% safe, then desolder, flash and then solder back in
Is this because of the taranis? I just got a drone from bangood and cannot bind to my taranis x9d. I get a solid red and green. Is this because the reciever is older or my taranis? thanks
Shouldn't be - the Tarnis will bind to the old D8 style receviers. What receiver is it you have on the model ?
CurryKitten xm reciever d16r
If you get a green and red light when you are attempting to bind, it signifies that there's a firmware mismatch. Coming from banggood it'll probably be running International/FCC firmware, if you are in Europe you are likely to have the LBT version of the firmware on the radio... in which case flash the LBT firmware onto the XM (see video on how).
CurryKitten i got the taranis from hobbyking.com i live in the US. Is there a way to find out what version is my taranis.
As far as which version of the firmware you are running in the internal module, no. But based on you being in the US and buying from HK, odds on you'd have the FCC version. So does the XM rx show both LEDs just when you turn it on, or only when you attempt to bind to it ?
Hi friend i have a freeX McFx O-1 quadcopter but it want take off not getting any customer care from gear best please please please can you help any good quad repaire centre if you don't have a Dji its hard to get your quad fixed any friends and places you know of please gadgetman 404 out
*Goes off to google freeX mcFx O-1* Hmm ok, and does it just tip over when you try and take off as per your video ? First off, see if you can go down a PayPal dispute with GearBest - if you can do that, no messing about. I'm not sure a generic quad repair centre exists (perhaps a gap in the market), unless you do have something expensive and behind a very big international company like DJI then you are going the hobbyist route where you figure it out and fix it.
Good news - is some of these components are generic. Brushless motors, escs - easy to look at. A proprietary flight controller, less so. My first quest would be "does it work in non-gps mode", followed by redoing the compass calibration, and then plugging it in the computer and looking at the gyro and accelerometer read out to see if it moves as it should and then stays put when it's still. Is your lipo definitely charged up ok ?
Seeking help from a community will move you along faster - if you have a few basic tools: screw drivers, multi meter, soldering iron, then join a forum, explain issue - what you've tried so far etc
Hi there with all the controversy about Frsky reciever firmware update I was wondering were I could get an older version of non-eu RSSI 16 for the XM+
Cheers Phil
Yes - it's a bit hidden. If you go to the regular firmware page here www.frsky-rc.com/xm-plus-mini-sbus-non-telemetry-full-range/ there's a link that says "History firmware DOWNLOAD (not compatible with v2.x.x)" clicking on the word download will get you the pre-2.x.x firmware you want.
Thank you love your channel wish more people would view it clear and to the point with loads of enthusiasm 👍😊
Do you think it’s possible to run just the sbus wire to the Taranis for XM+ firmware upgrade
if the power comes from the Flight controller
Cheers Phil😊
I'm not sure - I don't know if the radio does anything special to stop it booting up normally. It doesn't, for example, supply power until it tries to flash it
the taranix tx was also 6' away from the receiver when attempting to bind fyi. thanks
I can see why you would want to flash this to a non EU version as all your kit is non EU but if you were starting out would you just stick with the EU version?
It's more about matching it up with what you radio is running. So if you bought a Taranis from the UK then it'll have the EU firmware (not that you can't change that as well) but as I mentioned sometimes you'll find receivers at super cheap prices at the big Chinese warehouses like Banggood in which case you'd want to flash these from the International firmware to EU.
Part of the reason I'm on International, is they didn't have the EU version when I got it, but also the EU version has a lower sensitivity (-90dBm vs -104dBm on International) which translates into lower range. For most people - especially not pushing the limits, it's unlikely to be a problem - but for me I'll stick with what I have :)
what kind of cable do you use from XM + to the radio
I use a servo cable having swapped a few pins
I just ordered one of these XM + RXs from T9 Wayne.....You can still get the International Firmware version from T9 if you want it....I like the fact I will be able to bury it out on a wingtip, and the range is supposed to be pretty good too. Using it with an Omnibus F4 FC.
Cheaper from China. I flash all mine as a matter of course now - mainly because I want the RSSI version of the firmware (that puts RSSI PWM out on ch 16) They are so trivial to flash that I don't even make any proper connections, I just hold in the pin headers until it's done :)
Yeah, cheaper, but I didn't want to wait...I liked how you re-named the Firmware file into something far more appropriate, what is it about naming Firmware Files and software engineers..?...They all do it, it must be in their Genes or something.
Clearly a build prefix which makes sense for versioning, but less for consumers
LOL...yeah, its like they want to keep it a secret from their end users, just to confuse them fully and piss them off...:)
Pretty sure they could include the RX type AND the build # in the title..?
I had to flash my new XM Plus with the latest firmware in order to get RSSI out along channel 16....Works good in iNAV...Actually 29/3/2017 is the latest version of the Firmware.
great video Curry thanks
Question..why does the power leads need to be swopped?
You need to swap them to match the pin order on the module bay on the Taranis. Later models may use a smart port connector underneath where (I think) the ordering doesn't need to be messed around with
Just tried a passthrough update on the XM+ no luck,com port does not pick up device
Great video mate .......
Do we need to flash the firmware before we use the receiver?.
The rx will have firmware on it, but you won't be able to hazard a guess of what version unless you connect it up and try and use it. I find it easier to flash before doing this - just so I know it's on what I want it to be
Excellent !!! Thank you
can you update this video on 2021 because the new update doe not work
Which part doesn't work - this is how I still flash my XM+'s ?
thanx.. solved my prblem..
is there a way to check the fw version the receiver is on?
In terms of the specific version, no (or at least none that I know of) But in terms of if it's International or EU firmware - then your radio won't bind to an rx running International firmware if you are on EU Taranis firmware, and visa versa
hi 1 question is there any RSSI pad on xm plus? thx
Yes - the manual shows one pad as being RSSI and states it should put out 0-3.3v (I've not tested this out though) Of course you can also flash with the RSSI firmware and it'll put out ch 16 as the PWM RSSI value if you have a floight controller that will pick that up
Thanks for the answer..i am useing osd in pdb matek pdb..wondering how to get the rssi on screen..
On frsky xm+ download which firmware will i use for rssi? The top 16channel rssi? Whats the 3 others below LBT mode?
Normally yes - the latest firmware (version 170313) has the code in for the FCC (international version) and LBT (EU Version) versions with RSSI on channel 8 or channel 16 (the firmware that doesn't list RSSI is the default normal 16 channel). If you hit any issues try the previous level of firmware (version 161221) I need to do some more testing to check it, but I seemed to have issuers on a few receviers on the latest firmware, where the previous level was fine... but the latst is usually fine.
CurryKitten yes i have that version and it works for my binding. So does that mean i have the non eu version?
CurryKitten i use the firmware with rssi channel 16 170313 yes?
Yes, if you are binding using the FCC version it means you have the non-eu/international version for firmware on your internal XJT module in your radio
yes
what if I dont have a Taranis?
I'm using a Turnigy 9x with DJT Module
The question of flashing is a good one, the 9x can run OpenTX, so you might presume it could flash a receiver, but I don't know. This is going to be a moot point in your setup though, as the XM+ runs in D16 mode, which means that a DJT module won't support it (you need an XJT module instead)
Thanks, I will get rid of my Flysky I6s and my Turnigy 9x and get a Taranis ,
Do you know if I can get the same result with an Taranis QX7?
Yes the QX7 is basically a Taranis X9D with a slight lower res screen, no sliders, and two less 3 position switches. It is however, much nicer to hold and has a rotary dial which makes configuring things much better (that the X9D's arrow buttons)
you have been very helpful thank you,
I'm from Brazil, but 29/07 I will be to Chicago, do you know if i can get a Taranis in some Physical store?
Don't know - I'm in the UK. Try a google - there's bound to be hobby shops around locally, but it seems rare to find FrSky gear anywhere but online.
You downloaded an older version. Why not put the newest (2016-12-25). It's above the link you chose.
Oops, I hadn't noticed I'd gone down and downloaded the version history version. How did I miss that massive download link there :) Well spotted, I'll stick a note on the video pointing this out
J. Sjoberg yep, also just watched the vid and nothiced the same. Now, dive into the changelog to find the difference between the 2 versions 😜
anybody got the XM firmware, as the Frsky download section is useless/offline and I need to flash my XM reciever to get it to bind
I've got the XM+, but that's not helpful. I don't know what's up with FrSky's site - hacked perhaps. Showing lots of popup ads, and their SQL is broken
yes there is a lot of sql errors, so I can't get the firmware for the XM :(
crap I long press on firmware version and it only comes up delete option :(
One thing I didn't mention as I figured everyone might be on the later radios now is the firmware running on your Taranis. To flash receivers, you'll need to be on OpenTX 2.1 (I thought it was just people like me that got the original batch that needed to think of it) Upgrading is a doddle, but if you are moving from a much earlier version you might need to change a few models as some of the mix sources might change (So I found some that should have been MAX were set to something else) but you can backup everything first. Go to www.open-tx.org/ and download the OpenTX companion - this will let you backup your radio and upgrade the firmware then you can get going again :)
CurryKitten I'll give it a bash thx.. I got mine in 2015 I think so you could be right !
CurryKitten sorted thx !
Yay - nice going
Good presentation helped me alot - you having a Mac did throw me a bit, but reading between the lines did manage too bind my XM+ thanx
Did notice that your taranis RF Mode was set at D16 and channel range = ch1-8 why not ch1-16. Would it mean your Tx transmit only 8channels...joe
I didn't notice that. I did start using 8 channels as I figure I wouldn't need 16 and you can use a lower frame rate which means that you'd get ever such slightly less latency. However, having tried both I do't notice the difference at all, so I now normally use 16 channels with ch 16 as RSSI
Gotcha - so a year has passed since you did the video and the update version has changed (now V170313) = progress
There are 6 listed downloads within V170313, numbers 4 and 6 applies to me, I notice that No6 has a reference to RSSI does that mean it would give me acess to RSSI cos I chose No4 with out it...joe
I did another update video on this BTW, but now super-new info. The clue is in the titles for the type of firmware you have, so in the 170313 zip you will have FCC170313 and LBT170313 varients depending on what sort offirmware you are running. Then the just .frk file - the standard 16 channel firmware, then the RSSI8.frk and RSSI16.frk which are the versions that have the RSSI output on channel 8 or 16
only use ch1-16 if you need all 16 channels. otherwise use 1-8 the latency is less.
Impressive you have two different T-Shirts during the video lol
I did not even know that there was an EU firmware and an international firmware for their receivers! That's pretty crazy! What is the reason of this?
Have a great weekend
There's some EU rule so this is FrSky making their receivers compliant. LBT means "Listen before talk". I don't know what this entails, but I do know that the sensitivity of the receivers are reduced, and hence range is impacted.
Can you do a video on getting the Rssi on your radio
Well on these XM+ receivers, they don't have telemetry, so you won't get RSSI. As for this in general I'm going to do a video on finding a downed quad as part of my "tips for new flyers" series, so I'll cover how to do that.
How you do it with the jumper T8SG V2 plus?
The T8SG runs Devention doesn't it? I don't think you can flash from it (but I'm no expert on this) you might have to buy the adapter to allow you to flash from your pc if not
@@CurryKitten Could you send me a link where I can buy to do it from my computer. Thank you
@@electroddxful Ok, no experience in doing this myself, but it seems to be this one www.banggood.com/FrSky-STK-S_port-Tool-Kit-for-Upgrade-S_Port-Products-for-RC-Drone-p-1099105.html which sounds wrong as they mention it's for s.ports (which the XM+ doesn't have) but it works... apparently.
@@CurryKitten Thank you so much really appreciate it. 👍🙏👍🙏
Hey @RayFPV I got the same jumper radio. Did that adapter work for you? I'm about to toss this shite rx!
I have a devo 7e and finally got a successful bind last night, range test was great everything working smoothly. It was bound for maybe and hour. I was getting a perfect signal in test mode no matter how hard I tried to make it loose signal around the house. Xm+ here.
I was in betaflight setting some switches up and the receiver just stopped working. I was changing the aux channels on the transmitter for flight modes in betaflight and it just stopped receiving. When I power it lights up dim solid green/red and doesn't do anything, no different if I power it on while holding the bind key. It should be a bright solid green and blinking red in bind mode. Sometimes if I wait a while to plug a battery in and don't hit the bind key it will light up solid red. I tried to bind it again but nothing happens. I'm at a complete loss. I reset the profile and tried to bind again no luck.
I'm confused about how you would bind a Wallkera TX to a FrSky rx. Is there some compatibility here I don't know about ?
Yes it has deviation and frsky module modification.
the exact thing happened to me! funny thing is I was using a radio that has the same deviation software.. I was also setting up things in betaflight when it just stopped working with the 2 dim lights
I ended up returning the receiver, the new one has been working fine ever since. Flashing the old one did not solve the issue, in fact it wouldn't flash.
RavageBullet thanks for your reply! I was thinking that may be the case as I've also been reading these are sometimes hit and miss. I'll be ordering a new one! They work amazing when they do
That is an ND filter. Made for brighter days, to prevent jello. Not recommended for low light environments.
Huh ? Did you respond to the right video, no ND filters here !?
The Flash!
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Up early
...and I already changed my T-Shirt twice :) I often shoot little bits of video over several days before putting them together
Can these be bound to a betafpv lite 2 transmitter
Yes - the XM+ talks D16, so the LiteRadio 2 can bind to it
Mine won't and it's driving me mad haha whenever I try to bind it shows solid red and green lights
@@zingzing_media That's normally a firmware mismatch. Is it possible you've got LBT firmware on the XM+ and you are attempting to bind in regular D16 mode?
I'm not too sure a friend sent me them saying he had flashed them to fcc d16 I'm all new to this drone mslarkey haha is there a way I can check
In a word no - you'd have to reflash them. Stick the radio in LBT mode and see if they bind, that would be one way of being able to check