I just got that same fast ace rear shock when I put it on my bike everytime I compress the bike once it springs back up it makes a knocking noise would that be becuase the spring is too loose?
well let me think. if the shock is springing back to fell length quickly and it's making a smacking sound then I say your shock is broken like mine did after it wore out. My rebound control went away therefore my shock was a pogo stick. On my fastace shock the spring is longer on mine compared to the springs on my replacement KKE shock and now my third shock the Rfloxa RAB53RV. This leads me to believe your spring preload is not to lose on the Fastace if like mine. Your fastace shock spring should have written on it 450Lbs. Did you buy it new or used?
Finally a very well explained & professional Video on explaining Suspension on the Sutton mine has the FastAce Rear but RST Killah in Front but I’m even more Excited & Happier now as I can tune my Bike more :)
Similar to motocross suspension though less tunable. If you are serious about upgrading suspension or asking for help, reach out to the guys at Charged Cycle Works. They have really come a long way in last couple years. They can tune the factory forks with new springs and change oil weights. They can service these forks and shocks too and make them feel like new. In the extreme case they offer 5 different brand of new sick forks and rear shocks for the diehard riders. I'm still on my stock battery and controller so the stock fastace fork and shock is adequate.
I have not taken disassembled the fastace fork. To get info on specs like what you want, I'd reach out to Charged cycle works (801) 449-1050. They service these forks.
You always want to be gentle when turning suspension dials if I'm not mistaken, because I have not fiddled with mine in awhile. Always turn clockwise until it wants to stop turning. There the dial is bottomed out. Then Turing counter clockwise, lefty, those clicks are you full adjustments. I think I recall ten clicks is max adjust. 5 is the middle and average adjustment to really start from.
You have a range of positions they can be in the clamps. Tuning comes into play with moving them up and down in the steerer clamps. You can move them down to where the top is flush or just 1-2mm flush or you can move the gold cap as much as extreme 1 inch high... Rule of thumb is moving them down can provide more stability but less turning quickness/less agile feeling. Moving the fork tubes up in the clamps makes the dirtbike steer quicker/turn tighter but you can trade off for stability. Google motocross + rasing /lowering forks in triple clamps...Benefits/cons. example: th-cam.com/video/-njx6rOiIcw/w-d-xo.html
That doesn't sound good to be honest. Rebound and damping adjustment on pretty much all forks and shocks light pressure to turn. When they stop they stop unless you torque down. Usually turned all the way left is max 0 and then right turn is more 1, 2,3....10. On the fastace fork/shock factory setting I recall was click 5/center setting.
should the forks be flush? I had an accident (someone hit me) and I had to take off the forks and ensure they wern't bent... and like always theres no info anywhere online regarding the ammount the forks should feed out the top if any.. Ifortgot.. I
There is a little room to move up and down with the clamps. They can be pushed down flush within the top clamps or the forks can be up sticking out 10-12mm. What this does, the difference in adjustment , it adds to the between the rear axel center and the front wheel axle. Short distance the more agile handling, helps in turning and the greater the distance between the front and rear axle, general more stability in a straight line, slightly less steering. Most people it would be hard to tell a difference but pro riders use things like this to make fine adjustments.
Hey, I have a huge problem. I had a used 2020 Surron with Fast Ace suspensions delivered to me. The surron was pulled down using tension straps. I can now pull the fork out at least 5-10cm without putting any strain on the bike. how can I "fill" the "air/nothing" in the upper area? I thought I could just pump air in :(
Fastace forks is not air bladder style fork. They have a spring in one side and a damper cartridge in the other. I don't know why the fork would be not springing back up. If it was compressed for 6 months then maybe but a week for shipping, seem weird. Can order a new spring, and even a heavier rate spring at www.chargedcycleworks.com. Go for the 55lb spring.
@@GettingthruLife do you think it could help to lift the Bike of the ground and open the airbleed screws? Maybe the owner Messed around with the screws under load and created underpressure?
@mr.taddel4282 So if you weigh 110-120lbs/50-55kg then the 37-38lb spring is likely the better option. For me at 195lb/88kg, I need the 55lb -60lb spring.
@@GettingthruLife Yes, it's not too soft for me, I'm just missing the first 30% of the spring travel. The sag is like someone sitting on it, but without any burden on the Bike... o-o
I'm not claiming or claimed to be a suspension guru but from years and years of being in the motocross world/racing /dealerships background, I had to learn something. Susupenion tuning at high levels is an art form. Best thing to do is make small/big adjustments and then go ride, if one way/combination of clicks doesn't work to the rider's satisfaction then the clickers can always be set back to factory or in the middle settings. Spring pre-load adjustment plays a huge part in suspension setup (for the weight of the rider with proper spring sag) and is the basis which everything else is set upon. Unfortunately, the Fast Ace forks and likely the other entry-level fork included on this Sur Ron bike don't have big levels of adjustability. Can't adjust spring preload on forks but can replace the one spring to a heavier sprung spring per a couple of companies (Charged Cycle Works). Many people don't need the high levels of adjustability where those suspension features are overkill. Just depends on the skill level of the rider and what they like to do when riding.
I want to add, I got my sur ron x suspension ball park setup but my suspension for everyday riding/cruising around is pretty harsh over bumps. I ride on the sidewalks, streets, offroad, parking lots and my suspension is kind of harsh on the street, curbs, gaps on concrete, slight raised edges on the concrete. The fastace fork and shock are o.k. but not super good for comfort and vise versa big hits and jumps. So to try and make my suspension able to absorb small bumps and hits better, I reduced the compression, top screw on the right fork and blue knob on top of the shock. Counter clockwise from 6 clicks, where I had it to minus 3 clicks shock and fork, it helped. 12 clicks total adjustability jfyi. Now going back to heavy trail riding and trying to go fast on trails then I will most likely need to reverse the clicks by 3. Go back to 6-7 clicks. Also, on the front and rear I like slower rebound. Bottom fork screw for rebound setting. In 6-7 clicks out from full counter clockwise. The fastace rear shock I settled on about 7-8 clicks out from full counter clockwise. Allows you to hear the suction noise, slows down shock rebound. Rebound setting on the rear shock is the small red dial near the bottom towards the swingarm linkage. Hope the helps. Really to avoid any bottoming out situations, both the forks and rear shock would need stiffer rate springs. Usually if you do the front then the rear needs a spring upgrade too. Rebound and compression dials/adjustments really only good for tuning the speed of which the suspension compresses and bounces back. Springs hold the bike up and carry the weight of the rider.
I played with every nut and bolt with the fastace since there was zero videos about them before yours... just a FYI both sides of the fork are oil if you didn't already know i found this out the hard way lol 😆 still tring to dail them in i think i have to much *sag* if thats the right word. If i left up my frontend off the ground the forks lift about 1in or so before coming off the ground. They feels to soft and slow .
Sag in the rear is one of the biggest areas of interest. On a 12" suspension travel motocross bike sag is between 3.5" and 4" as general rule. That leads me to think this bike with I think is 7.5 to 8 in of travel would be between 1.5 to 1.75 maybe extreme 2". In the real world there shouldn't be much static sag/droop when just the bike under its own weight is on the ground. There can be some small spring compression as just the bikes sits there upright but if you were to lift the bike up off the ground with a hoist then you wouldn't want 2 inches of sag because that would be compounded when 150-200 pounds is added. Maybe since this suspension is really just a basic package on the sur ron for light use then it can't be properly set up like a big motocross bike but the general goal is to get ballpark or as close as we can get per our weight. Read the PDF doccument on these forks that I have include in description. It's got an exploded view of the forks internals. I definitely would not try and dismantle these forks as they take speciality tools to do it properly or change out oil, replace fork seals or change out spring rate. Suspension sag/droop as I've seen it is very important to set correctly and then once set, can start fine tuning compression speed and shock/fork rebound. Front fork sag should be about the same as the rear as I think I saw front and rear suspension travel is 8" and all the settings have 12 clicks. Spring preload likely has close to 2.5" spring preload that can be added by spinning the shock collar down. No spring preload of fork.
you happen to have the size of the bolts fork bolts? I was looking for the 5 total on each side .. (the 2 at bottom, 2 in middle, and 1 on the top of the fork) ... should be 10 total ... I cant find the info on these bolts.. thanks edit: not related but you mention you use wooden tools to prevent metal on metal damage... this isnt for everything right ? you dont like tighten say axel bolts with some sort of wooden tool ?
No wooden tools to tighten anything down. I typically try to use a piece of wood if I have to use a metal hammer on some things. I don't have any rubber mallets but would be nice to have. I don’t have bolt sizes right at moment but I can get the sizes by later today and post.
On my 2022 surron with the Fastace upside-down down forks, all the bolt heads are Allen heads and they are 5mm. 4 bottom, 4 middle and 2 up top. The bolts/bolt for the handle bar stem to be tightened to the fork steerer tube is 5mm and the stem 2 pinch bolts are 4mm.
I would think/guestimate tightening down the spring collar where you can see between 1/2 -1 inch of threads. Just keep in mind that when you sit on the bike it's a good thing to have a little suspension sag. Just don't need excessive sag when sitting down on the bike. Just tighten it down 1/2 inch and the see the results. Keep in mind too since the front forks are limited to no spring preload adjustment when you firm up the rear shock then the front forks will feel even whimper. Your weight will be push more onto the front. Just experiment and don't be afraid to turn things because you can always reverse what you've done.
If you have the same fastace upside-down forks as I do then you cannot add air to increase compression. If you are blowing through your front forks stroke were you need stiffer forks then you need to consider upgrading to a heavier spring. Contact: Charged Cycle Works, they now offer two levels of fastace fork springs for increased performance $55-60 minus install.
@@maxthepilot777er4 Call them and get their recommendation based on what you need/style of riding: chargedcycleworks.com/products/dnm-heavy-coil-upgrade?_pos=1&_sid=7c1a1f37f&_ss=r
Rear fender is front Dirty Bike americansurron.com/collections/frontpage/products/db-dirtybike-industries-gen2-long-rear-fender Front fender is the stock included fender but I cut it down and polished/rounded its edges. In my opinion, looks more like downhill mountain bike and less actual motorcycle looking.
I would not think the 244 would be heavier by any reasonable amount. Both seem to be a 4-ply tires and are the same size and similar width. Where these 241 & 244 weight more than the oem tire is there's more tire rubber thickness helping puncture and flats plus there is a fair amount more of sidewall height.
Put the 241 up front and a 244 rear for dual sport riding. A better front tires for heavy dirt riding and very little concrete is a 70/100x19 Dunlop MX53 $56.
I dont know but maybe in the PDF for the fork static1.squarespace.com/static/5d1738a7f814800001323a1b/t/60761ccbeda6c77bece75d4c/1618353357590/ALX13RC_spring.pdf
@Simon Quere also the Charge Cycle Works place/online sales works on these forks now. Offers up grade valving, upgraded springs and fork service. Can also double check info with them. Search web for phone #.
You bet! I had the first year IROC 1986 305 TPI T-tops white. Everybody loved that car and many would want one now if in decent shape. 5.7L was pretty quick in its day.
I can understand that. Snakes scare many. I've had lady friends terrified of my snakes but once I introduce them they really liked my snakes and could hold them and feel safe.
Thank you for making this informative video. I also watched your "correction" video. I actually called Luna Cycle a couple weeks ago to ask about the adjustments for the FastAce suspension as the manual doesn't cover it at all. The guy told me, "the FastAce fork is NOT user adjustable". I knew he was wrong and I think he just wanted to get me off of the phone. On a different topic, I see from your posters you're a fan of Yamaha bikes. Coincidentally, I recently uploaded a video I made, from a model photo shoot with my friends FZ09 (looks exactly like the one on your wall). Here's the link, if you're interested in watching it: th-cam.com/video/cEO8aQ3QfqY/w-d-xo.html
I'll watch. I'll worked at a few Yamaha dealership in sales plus I've ridden since a was 9 y.o. I was employed longest as yamaha/can-am/seafood so I have tons of those promotional posters dealerships get. I could fill the walls of a complete home with motorcycle posters. I look for videos on TH-cam on adjusting the fastace forks and shock and yt didn't show me anything. I did my best to show what I know from a basic perspective but assumed wrong on the top and bottom adjustment. The fastace fork PDF is helpful and cleared up some things so glad I was told the model number of the China fastace sur ron specific fork.
Great work...puts my videos to shame plus I'm a lot less attractive than that woman. I always liked the FZ09 and planned on getting one but went in the motocross direction again. Nice studio and setup.
On the Fastace suspension website under a similar looking rear shock (BTA59RC) the compression is located on the piggy-back reservoir. How do I know that, it's because on the version of rear shock there's two settings high speed and low speed adjment. Then on model (BDA51AR) rear shock with piggy back reservoir, that model only has external rebound adjustment and it's at the bottom of the shock. On the Fastace forks on my 2022 model, I adjusted the top of the right fork by turning that clockwise and it slowed down my bike's compression stroke as far as I can tell. The bike came set at close to minimum compression front shock and my rear shock which is full counter clockwise. Please point me to an official document so I can see according to this version of shock and fork. If I'm wrong I will make the correction.
@@joseducci1558 I didn't have the official name ALX13RC for the forks to find any info on them. With that model number identified It does seem to specify at: static1.squarespace.com/static/5d1738a7f814800001323a1b/t/60761ccbeda6c77bece75d4c/1618353357590/ALX13RC_spring.pdf Shows the rebound location is at the top according to this PDF and one person's knowledge at Electric Bike Forum that provided PDF Link. Odd, but this is a no-name fork from the likes of China so rebound adjustments/screw "turns/clicks" appear to be backward (full clockwise moving towards counter-clockwise progression) but compression is clockwise more compression (slower) and less compression (faster) counter clockwise. At least there is some info so this is helpful. I tried playing around with all the adjusters and couldn't confidently tell what was being changed.
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Thanks man this helped a lot! couldn't find any detailed info on these settings with the fastace!
I just got that same fast ace rear shock when I put it on my bike everytime I compress the bike once it springs back up it makes a knocking noise would that be becuase the spring is too loose?
well let me think. if the shock is springing back to fell length quickly and it's making a smacking sound then I say your shock is broken like mine did after it wore out. My rebound control went away therefore my shock was a pogo stick. On my fastace shock the spring is longer on mine compared to the springs on my replacement KKE shock and now my third shock the Rfloxa RAB53RV. This leads me to believe your spring preload is not to lose on the Fastace if like mine. Your fastace shock spring should have written on it 450Lbs. Did you buy it new or used?
Finally a very well explained & professional Video on explaining Suspension on the Sutton mine has the FastAce Rear but RST Killah in Front but I’m even more Excited & Happier now as I can tune my Bike more :)
Similar to motocross suspension though less tunable. If you are serious about upgrading suspension or asking for help, reach out to the guys at Charged Cycle Works. They have really come a long way in last couple years. They can tune the factory forks with new springs and change oil weights. They can service these forks and shocks too and make them feel like new. In the extreme case they offer 5 different brand of new sick forks and rear shocks for the diehard riders.
I'm still on my stock battery and controller so the stock fastace fork and shock is adequate.
Good video. Perfectly explained and in easy use terms and hand motions. JBK Approved 👍🏻
Jack, thanks jack for the encouragement!
Thank you so much for explaining the suspension setup! Really helped a lot!
HELLO PLEASE how much oil i have to put in the forks i have the same one with a problem of leaking
I have not taken disassembled the fastace fork. To get info on specs like what you want, I'd reach out to Charged cycle works (801) 449-1050. They service these forks.
@@GettingthruLife hello thanks for responding im gonna change my seals and fill new oil / i want to know the spec of the oil in the legs
I think I fucked up my rear shock moving the red bolt, it’s stuck and the bike takes really long to get back up, there’s any way to fix that ?
Is the red bolt you mention on the bottom of the Fastace shock? Trying to figure out what exactly you are describing.
You always want to be gentle when turning suspension dials if I'm not mistaken, because I have not fiddled with mine in awhile. Always turn clockwise until it wants to stop turning. There the dial is bottomed out. Then Turing counter clockwise, lefty, those clicks are you full adjustments. I think I recall ten clicks is max adjust. 5 is the middle and average adjustment to really start from.
if i have a shock pump how much air should I put in my fork
Since I don't have this feature I'm not well versed in this area. Video may be helpful: th-cam.com/video/5GwySKd2tws/w-d-xo.html
How comes yiur big gold nut on the forks sits flush, i thought they sit raised to be able to undo the nut
You have a range of positions they can be in the clamps. Tuning comes into play with moving them up and down in the steerer clamps. You can move them down to where the top is flush or just 1-2mm flush or you can move the gold cap as much as extreme 1 inch high... Rule of thumb is moving them down can provide more stability but less turning quickness/less agile feeling. Moving the fork tubes up in the clamps makes the dirtbike steer quicker/turn tighter but you can trade off for stability. Google motocross + rasing /lowering forks in triple clamps...Benefits/cons. example: th-cam.com/video/-njx6rOiIcw/w-d-xo.html
When I undo my rebound screw to the right oil leaks out am I suppose to twist it the other way?
That doesn't sound good to be honest. Rebound and damping adjustment on pretty much all forks and shocks light pressure to turn. When they stop they stop unless you torque down. Usually turned all the way left is max 0 and then right turn is more 1, 2,3....10. On the fastace fork/shock factory setting I recall was click 5/center setting.
should the forks be flush? I had an accident (someone hit me) and I had to take off the forks and ensure they wern't bent... and like always theres no info anywhere online regarding the ammount the forks should feed out the top if any.. Ifortgot.. I
There is a little room to move up and down with the clamps. They can be pushed down flush within the top clamps or the forks can be up sticking out 10-12mm. What this does, the difference in adjustment , it adds to the between the rear axel center and the front wheel axle. Short distance the more agile handling, helps in turning and the greater the distance between the front and rear axle, general more stability in a straight line, slightly less steering. Most people it would be hard to tell a difference but pro riders use things like this to make fine adjustments.
Hey, I have a huge problem.
I had a used 2020 Surron with Fast Ace suspensions delivered to me. The surron was pulled down using tension straps.
I can now pull the fork out at least 5-10cm without putting any strain on the bike. how can I "fill" the "air/nothing" in the upper area?
I thought I could just pump air in :(
Fastace forks is not air bladder style fork. They have a spring in one side and a damper cartridge in the other. I don't know why the fork would be not springing back up. If it was compressed for 6 months then maybe but a week for shipping, seem weird. Can order a new spring, and even a heavier rate spring at www.chargedcycleworks.com. Go for the 55lb spring.
@@GettingthruLife do you think it could help to lift the Bike of the ground and open the airbleed screws?
Maybe the owner Messed around with the screws under load and created underpressure?
@@GettingthruLifeis 55lb still ok for a 50-55kg rider?
@mr.taddel4282 So if you weigh 110-120lbs/50-55kg then the 37-38lb spring is likely the better option. For me at 195lb/88kg, I need the 55lb -60lb spring.
@@GettingthruLife Yes, it's not too soft for me, I'm just missing the first 30% of the spring travel.
The sag is like someone sitting on it, but without any burden on the Bike... o-o
thank you so much! this video really helped me learn a lot and got me able to dial my bike in way better
I'm not claiming or claimed to be a suspension guru but from years and years of being in the motocross world/racing /dealerships background, I had to learn something. Susupenion tuning at high levels is an art form. Best thing to do is make small/big adjustments and then go ride, if one way/combination of clicks doesn't work to the rider's satisfaction then the clickers can always be set back to factory or in the middle settings. Spring pre-load adjustment plays a huge part in suspension setup (for the weight of the rider with proper spring sag) and is the basis which everything else is set upon. Unfortunately, the Fast Ace forks and likely the other entry-level fork included on this Sur Ron bike don't have big levels of adjustability. Can't adjust spring preload on forks but can replace the one spring to a heavier sprung spring per a couple of companies (Charged Cycle Works). Many people don't need the high levels of adjustability where those suspension features are overkill. Just depends on the skill level of the rider and what they like to do when riding.
Thank you so much…. I couldn’t find this info anywhere until Today!!
I want to add, I got my sur ron x suspension ball park setup but my suspension for everyday riding/cruising around is pretty harsh over bumps. I ride on the sidewalks, streets, offroad, parking lots and my suspension is kind of harsh on the street, curbs, gaps on concrete, slight raised edges on the concrete. The fastace fork and shock are o.k. but not super good for comfort and vise versa big hits and jumps.
So to try and make my suspension able to absorb small bumps and hits better, I reduced the compression, top screw on the right fork and blue knob on top of the shock. Counter clockwise from 6 clicks, where I had it to minus 3 clicks shock and fork, it helped. 12 clicks total adjustability jfyi. Now going back to heavy trail riding and trying to go fast on trails then I will most likely need to reverse the clicks by 3. Go back to 6-7 clicks. Also, on the front and rear I like slower rebound. Bottom fork screw for rebound setting. In 6-7 clicks out from full counter clockwise. The fastace rear shock I settled on about 7-8 clicks out from full counter clockwise. Allows you to hear the suction noise, slows down shock rebound. Rebound setting on the rear shock is the small red dial near the bottom towards the swingarm linkage. Hope the helps.
Really to avoid any bottoming out situations, both the forks and rear shock would need stiffer rate springs. Usually if you do the front then the rear needs a spring upgrade too. Rebound and compression dials/adjustments really only good for tuning the speed of which the suspension compresses and bounces back. Springs hold the bike up and carry the weight of the rider.
I played with every nut and bolt with the fastace since there was zero videos about them before yours... just a FYI both sides of the fork are oil if you didn't already know i found this out the hard way lol 😆 still tring to dail them in i think i have to much *sag* if thats the right word. If i left up my frontend off the ground the forks lift about 1in or so before coming off the ground.
They feels to soft and slow .
Sag in the rear is one of the biggest areas of interest. On a 12" suspension travel motocross bike sag is between 3.5" and 4" as general rule. That leads me to think this bike with I think is 7.5 to 8 in of travel would be between 1.5 to 1.75 maybe extreme 2".
In the real world there shouldn't be much static sag/droop when just the bike under its own weight is on the ground. There can be some small spring compression as just the bikes sits there upright but if you were to lift the bike up off the ground with a hoist then you wouldn't want 2 inches of sag because that would be compounded when 150-200 pounds is added.
Maybe since this suspension is really just a basic package on the sur ron for light use then it can't be properly set up like a big motocross bike but the general goal is to get ballpark or as close as we can get per our weight.
Read the PDF doccument on these forks that I have include in description. It's got an exploded view of the forks internals. I definitely would not try and dismantle these forks as they take speciality tools to do it properly or change out oil, replace fork seals or change out spring rate.
Suspension sag/droop as I've seen it is very important to set correctly and then once set, can start fine tuning compression speed and shock/fork rebound.
Front fork sag should be about the same as the rear as I think I saw front and rear suspension travel is 8" and all the settings have 12 clicks. Spring preload likely has close to 2.5" spring preload that can be added by spinning the shock collar down.
No spring preload of fork.
you happen to have the size of the bolts fork bolts? I was looking for the 5 total on each side .. (the 2 at bottom, 2 in middle, and 1 on the top of the fork) ... should be 10 total ... I cant find the info on these bolts.. thanks
edit: not related but you mention you use wooden tools to prevent metal on metal damage... this isnt for everything right ? you dont like tighten say axel bolts with some sort of wooden tool ?
No wooden tools to tighten anything down. I typically try to use a piece of wood if I have to use a metal hammer on some things. I don't have any rubber mallets but would be nice to have.
I don’t have bolt sizes right at moment but I can get the sizes by later today and post.
On my 2022 surron with the Fastace upside-down down forks, all the bolt heads are Allen heads and they are 5mm. 4 bottom, 4 middle and 2 up top. The bolts/bolt for the handle bar stem to be tightened to the fork steerer tube is 5mm and the stem 2 pinch bolts are 4mm.
@@GettingthruLife Sounds correct theres 10 bolts, 5 each side... you dont happen to have the length by chance? APpreciate that info tho;.
@Cmdr Tiger King No, I don't have the individual lengths of the fasteners. If I was working on my bike now I would for sure measure and tell you.
For someone that is 250 how much should you stiffen up the spring? How many turns on the spring?
I would think/guestimate tightening down the spring collar where you can see between 1/2 -1 inch of threads. Just keep in mind that when you sit on the bike it's a good thing to have a little suspension sag. Just don't need excessive sag when sitting down on the bike. Just tighten it down 1/2 inch and the see the results. Keep in mind too since the front forks are limited to no spring preload adjustment when you firm up the rear shock then the front forks will feel even whimper. Your weight will be push more onto the front. Just experiment and don't be afraid to turn things because you can always reverse what you've done.
How do I add air to the forks?
If you have the same fastace upside-down forks as I do then you cannot add air to increase compression. If you are blowing through your front forks stroke were you need stiffer forks then you need to consider upgrading to a heavier spring. Contact: Charged Cycle Works, they now offer two levels of fastace fork springs for increased performance $55-60 minus install.
@@GettingthruLife thank you !
@@maxthepilot777er4 Call them and get their recommendation based on what you need/style of riding: chargedcycleworks.com/products/dnm-heavy-coil-upgrade?_pos=1&_sid=7c1a1f37f&_ss=r
Happy new year friend
Happy new years back at-cha.
What front fender is that
Rear fender is front Dirty Bike americansurron.com/collections/frontpage/products/db-dirtybike-industries-gen2-long-rear-fender
Front fender is the stock included fender but I cut it down and polished/rounded its edges. In my opinion, looks more like downhill mountain bike and less actual motorcycle looking.
@@GettingthruLife yes I’m doing that for sure
What is the brand and size of rear tire?
The rear tire I bought for true dual-sport riding is the Shinko brand 244. Size is 2.75 x 19.
@@GettingthruLife Thank you!! Is it significantly heavier? I have a 241 in the back but I like how aggressive that one is
I would not think the 244 would be heavier by any reasonable amount. Both seem to be a 4-ply tires and are the same size and similar width. Where these 241 & 244 weight more than the oem tire is there's more tire rubber thickness helping puncture and flats plus there is a fair amount more of sidewall height.
Put the 241 up front and a 244 rear for dual sport riding. A better front tires for heavy dirt riding and very little concrete is a 70/100x19 Dunlop MX53 $56.
@@GettingthruLife Thanks for the info!
Great video! Really informative mate
Did you wrap your battery with a carbon fiber wrap?
Luna cycle sells this: lunacycle.com/sur-ron-battery-wrap-kit/
That's what I put on my battery. Pre-cut, pretty thick, sticks well, and so far is holding up well.
Awesome vid. Thank you for the information
Thanks great video just what I was looking for
A lot of testing and trial and error is suspension tuning.
Does anyone know the amount of oil for this fork?
I dont know but maybe in the PDF for the fork static1.squarespace.com/static/5d1738a7f814800001323a1b/t/60761ccbeda6c77bece75d4c/1618353357590/ALX13RC_spring.pdf
@@GettingthruLife There is nothing in the pdf but someone told me 150cc left and 300cc right
@Simon Quere also the Charge Cycle Works place/online sales works on these forks now. Offers up grade valving, upgraded springs and fork service. Can also double check info with them. Search web for phone #.
Great video! Thanks!
You bet! I had the first year IROC 1986 305 TPI T-tops white. Everybody loved that car and many would want one now if in decent shape. 5.7L was pretty quick in its day.
Don’t know if I liked the suspension tutorial or the 🐍 😂 good info thanks
I can understand that. Snakes scare many. I've had lady friends terrified of my snakes but once I introduce them they really liked my snakes and could hold them and feel safe.
Thank for this info.
Thank you
Not the perfect, pro-caliber explanations but I try. Making videos and saying the right thing all the time is difficult. Thanks for your recognition.
Thank you for making this informative video. I also watched your "correction" video. I actually called Luna Cycle a couple weeks ago to ask about the adjustments for the FastAce suspension as the manual doesn't cover it at all. The guy told me, "the FastAce fork is NOT user adjustable". I knew he was wrong and I think he just wanted to get me off of the phone.
On a different topic, I see from your posters you're a fan of Yamaha bikes. Coincidentally, I recently uploaded a video I made, from a model photo shoot with my friends FZ09 (looks exactly like the one on your wall). Here's the link, if you're interested in watching it: th-cam.com/video/cEO8aQ3QfqY/w-d-xo.html
I'll watch. I'll worked at a few Yamaha dealership in sales plus I've ridden since a was 9 y.o. I was employed longest as yamaha/can-am/seafood so I have tons of those promotional posters dealerships get. I could fill the walls of a complete home with motorcycle posters.
I look for videos on TH-cam on adjusting the fastace forks and shock and yt didn't show me anything. I did my best to show what I know from a basic perspective but assumed wrong on the top and bottom adjustment. The fastace fork PDF is helpful and cleared up some things so glad I was told the model number of the China fastace sur ron specific fork.
Great work...puts my videos to shame plus I'm a lot less attractive than that woman. I always liked the FZ09 and planned on getting one but went in the motocross direction again. Nice studio and setup.
You are wrong the rebound is up and the compresión is down
On the Fastace suspension website under a similar looking rear shock (BTA59RC) the compression is located on the piggy-back reservoir. How do I know that, it's because on the version of rear shock there's two settings high speed and low speed adjment. Then on model (BDA51AR) rear shock with piggy back reservoir, that model only has external rebound adjustment and it's at the bottom of the shock.
On the Fastace forks on my 2022 model, I adjusted the top of the right fork by turning that clockwise and it slowed down my bike's compression stroke as far as I can tell. The bike came set at close to minimum compression front shock and my rear shock which is full counter clockwise.
Please point me to an official document so I can see according to this version of shock and fork. If I'm wrong I will make the correction.
ALX13RC User manual look there,, the compression is down the fork the rebound is on the top
@@joseducci1558 I didn't have the official name ALX13RC for the forks to find any info on them. With that model number identified It does seem to specify at: static1.squarespace.com/static/5d1738a7f814800001323a1b/t/60761ccbeda6c77bece75d4c/1618353357590/ALX13RC_spring.pdf
Shows the rebound location is at the top according to this PDF and one person's knowledge at Electric Bike Forum that provided PDF Link. Odd, but this is a no-name fork from the likes of China so rebound adjustments/screw "turns/clicks" appear to be backward (full clockwise moving towards counter-clockwise progression) but compression is clockwise more compression (slower) and less compression (faster) counter clockwise.
At least there is some info so this is helpful. I tried playing around with all the adjusters and couldn't confidently tell what was being changed.
@@joseducci1558 Thanks for the correction my friend. I've made an update video to be uploaded shortly and noted on the old video the mistake.
When I undo my rebound screw to the right oil leaks out am I suppose to twist it the other way?
When I undo my rebound screw to the right oil leaks out am I suppose to twist it the other way?