On Samsung S21, instead of setting the timer, there is also a voice command option in the camera settings. All you have to say is "Shoot" and it takes the picture.
My Samsung S23 and some others have a setting for voice control photos. I just say, "shoot" and it takes the shot, no vibration. If your phone doesn't have it try using the time delay with the shutter button to avoid vibration. I'm trying a beta version of an app called DeepSkyCamera which is similar to the Samsung Pro setting but has added features like programing the number of continuous frames you want to take as well as the interval between (0-90 secs). Both camera apps let you save images in RAW (actually DNG in Android) or JPG or both. RAW is not actually an image file like JPG. It is an uncompressed, unprocessed data file that is a record of what the camera sensor actually detected. RAW files will often look nearly black until they are edited, but the depth of binary information in the file is just waiting to burst out with processing. Try processing a JPG the same way as a RAW file and it will look sick. The bad kind of sick, with green and black splotchy blobs. You have the option to process them yourself in Photoshop or use Gimp for free. I open RAW files in Irfanview (another great free image viewing/editing program) and save them as TIFF files for processing with Gimp. I've also been trying out Sequator, a free stacking program. I can take as many photos as I want using short exposures to avoid star trails. Sequator automatically aligns the dozens or even hundreds of images and stacks them into a single virtual long exposure image without using a tracker, reducing background noise by averaging out the images. It can also fix the ground image so that it is not blurred. I've been able to edit some impressive images from RAW files just using the native Samsung photo app. And I just found out I could do all this stuff with a smartphone a few weeks ago. Who knew?
You can go into the settings then camera settings on the iphone and shoot in apple pro raw which will make the file a lot like the DNG file from the android
The only problem for me is the LIGHT POLLUTION 🤯 like I must travel somewhere to get it done,, Thank you for the video it is amazing as usual showing the potential of mobiles in Astrophotography.. BTW what is the Samsung galaxy model you get the image with?
How come on your Samsung? You did not actually use the Astro photographer mode. When you put your camera in night mode and on a tripod, the little moon will turn to Stars and it takes an actual night Astro picture
Great video! The iPhone can take Raw Photos, you have to turn that feature on in settings, then can Toggle it in the App. NightCap Camera App is great for the iPhone. It was $2.99 when I bought many years ago. Gives you controls, does Star Trails, and more.
Thank you!! I have an android, Motorola 5G Stylus. Setting the ISO and shutter speed allows for great pictures that I never realized was possible. Thank you!!
Just look at the iPhone's 30s shot's exif. You'll see it is 10sec. The other 20s is the process. And like other poeple wrote, it can shoot in dng. Also good to know the proRAW is not means professional but processed raw.
Very nice! But can you perhaps elaborate a bit more on what you did on the .dng? No stacking i suppose, as you only had 1 image, so how did you clean it up so nicely?
Yeah it was a single image. I did a small stretch using curves in Photoshop. I then removed the stars using RC Astor's StarXTerminator. From there I stretched the starless image a little more with curves. After that I ran RC Astro''s NoiseXTerminator. Then I proceeded to do some Camera Raw Filter adjustments such as clarity, de-haze, vibrance, and saturation. Finally I added the stars back and ran one more instance of NoiseXTerminator.
Bare in mind that iphone used 50% more exposure time and still didn't beat the bigger sensor on galaxy . Hardware advantages really shine their best when you take out computational photography.
I was amazed by what I got with my Google Pixel 7 Pro from the Kaibab Lodge (North Rim) in June just out our cabin door by propping up my phone on a small table (didn't have a phone tripod mount with me). It will keep adding light for up to four minutes! I prefer using my Nikon Z6ii which is astro-modded, but it was cool to see what my camera could do.
@deltaastrophotography yeah just tonight lol. My first ever "astrophotography" try. Clouds moved in and screwed it up. But I wasn't using any zoom and I got what I don't think is a terrible shot of m45 I think it is. A bit left of Jupiter.
My brother sent me your link when I lamented not having a sophisticated (or any) telescope to use to see the details of our galaxy and beyond…. So, we can see the milky way through the iPhone, but can it photograph the rings of Saturn ?
It detects movement I guess. It knows when it's very still while on a tripod. For my phone I just got a basic WalMart tripod for around $30. Works great!
I'm very very sad coz i cant do this on my phone,,, is it possible on Samsung Galaxy F13? Cannot found the speed option plz help me i love astrophotography 😭😭😭😭 from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
Hi Walt, In a couple of days I will be heading to the southern most tip of Vancouver Island for a month. The new moon will be on the 16th. I am planning to shoot the milky way. If the skies are cloudy that day, how many days either side are reasonably good to shoot? Regards, Lord Jack Thair
Hi there! I could be a little off since you are much farther north than me, but I would say your best window would be around 10:30/11:00 at night between Aug. 8 and 22. Give or take a day or two on both sides.
Hey Walt. So my phone uses android OS, so my camera is a lot like your Samsung. I do have the option to save my photos in RAW format. So here are my questions: 1) Can you stack the images from the phone camera? 2) My phone camera also has an HDR feature. Should I leave it on, or turn it off? Thanks for your time answering my questions. I plan to check out Staunton River Park in VA in a few days. It is a registered dark sky location and is a bortle 4, so I may try this when I am there. I do have a general question about the bortle scale. So when I look at the light pollution map, it gives the bortle number, but I also see something called Artificial Brightness. I assume that is related to the amount of light pollution, so I try to find the lowest Artificial Brightness number I can. Am I correct? And if I am, wouldn't that make the bortle scale a bit inaccurate, since there can be a range of Artificial Brightness per bortle number?
I've never tried it, but I believe you can stack. You can get intervelometer apps for your phone that will take multiple photos for you. It's handy for time lapses, but it could be great for stacking as well. You might have to load all your photos into Lightroom and save them all as uncompressed TIFF before stacking in software like Sequator. I would leave HDR off for these kinds of photos. Tuesday is the full moon so make sure you go out there a few days after that so the moon won't ruin your shot! I'm not very familiar with Artificial Brightness, so I'll look into that!
@@deltaastrophotography Great! Yeah, I am just going to the park to see if it is accessible 24 hrs and whether there is an open area that gives me access to most of the sky. Like I said, it was named an International Dark Sky Park by the International Dark-Sky Association (IDA), so I hope to it will be my new dark site since it is only a 90 min drive. Keep up the great videos!
I don't remember which model, but it was not switched to Raw. I plan on making this video again this summer and using someone's IPhone and switching it to RAW this time.
Depends on your model. All he says in the video is "Samsung Galaxy", but it looks to be atleast the S21(+ or Ultra). If you have the S9 or S10, you might be limited. If you have a newer model, make sure you're using "Pro-Mode" or Expert Raw.
Yeah that sucks! I wish I had an iPhone to go and an figure things out. We had to let my friend's iPhone sit on the tripod for several seconds before it detected it was on the tripod. But it could be a number of things. I wish I could be of more help with this.
I don't have an iPhone so I'm not entirely sure, but several commenters have suggesting using Raw Pro. I'm not sure if that's an app you buy or if it comes with newer IPhones. But it seems to give much better results.
I've considered that! I actually have an app called Deep Sky Camera that has a built-in intervalometer so I could take multiple images. I'm going to have to give that a shot!
@deltaastrophotography Hey there!! I have a galaxy A52s which doesn't save in RAW format in the native app. Deep sky camera does provide that feature. Can you please make a video on the same?
I live in a Bortle 3/4 area. I get a good bit of light pollution near the horizon so basically all my photos look like they are taken at sunset. Still very nice shots of the Milky Way. I would say once you get higher than Bortle 4, you are going to start having a difficult time.
I absolutely HATE Crapple products so I'm totally biased toward the Samsung (Android). I think the detail with the Samsung makes up for the noise. I'm horrible when it comes to editing so I would post the raw Samsung image on IG in a heartbeat!
On Samsung S21, instead of setting the timer, there is also a voice command option in the camera settings. All you have to say is "Shoot" and it takes the picture.
No shit!! I have to try that. Thank you!
Walt, Once again you show us simpletons how easy astro is sometimes with very little investment! Keep on rocking brother, love the videos!
My Samsung S23 and some others have a setting for voice control photos. I just say, "shoot" and it takes the shot, no vibration. If your phone doesn't have it try using the time delay with the shutter button to avoid vibration.
I'm trying a beta version of an app called DeepSkyCamera which is similar to the Samsung Pro setting but has added features like programing the number of continuous frames you want to take as well as the interval between (0-90 secs). Both camera apps let you save images in RAW (actually DNG in Android) or JPG or both. RAW is not actually an image file like JPG. It is an uncompressed, unprocessed data file that is a record of what the camera sensor actually detected. RAW files will often look nearly black until they are edited, but the depth of binary information in the file is just waiting to burst out with processing. Try processing a JPG the same way as a RAW file and it will look sick. The bad kind of sick, with green and black splotchy blobs. You have the option to process them yourself in Photoshop or use Gimp for free. I open RAW files in Irfanview (another great free image viewing/editing program) and save them as TIFF files for processing with Gimp.
I've also been trying out Sequator, a free stacking program. I can take as many photos as I want using short exposures to avoid star trails. Sequator automatically aligns the dozens or even hundreds of images and stacks them into a single virtual long exposure image without using a tracker, reducing background noise by averaging out the images. It can also fix the ground image so that it is not blurred.
I've been able to edit some impressive images from RAW files just using the native Samsung photo app.
And I just found out I could do all this stuff with a smartphone a few weeks ago. Who knew?
Very useful info, thanks man!
You can go into the settings then camera settings on the iphone and shoot in apple pro raw which will make the file a lot like the DNG file from the android
The only problem for me is the LIGHT POLLUTION 🤯 like I must travel somewhere to get it done,, Thank you for the video it is amazing as usual showing the potential of mobiles in Astrophotography.. BTW what is the Samsung galaxy model you get the image with?
You forgot to mention that iphone users should activate apple pro raw in camera settings 😅
Definitely the Samsung. Hoping for clear skies here in the UK so I can have a go at this with my S22
Love it Walt....now I gotta get me Samsung phone 🤣
Apparently the Samsung S23 has astrophotography and stacking capabilities built into the phone camera! Looks like it's time for me to upgrade!
@@deltaastrophotography Damn, this could well be my last iPhone 📱 then 🤣
Thanks! will without a doubt use these excellent tips
Huaewi phones has light painting mode and 4 different different modes inside. İncluding star trails. With a mate 20 lite i even captured a meteroid.
I think the BM camera iphone app does have manual settings and it’s free.
How come on your Samsung? You did not actually use the Astro photographer mode. When you put your camera in night mode and on a tripod, the little moon will turn to Stars and it takes an actual night Astro picture
Funny, witty, awesome advice and demonstration... subscribed!
Great video! The iPhone can take Raw Photos, you have to turn that feature on in settings, then can Toggle it in the App. NightCap Camera App is great for the iPhone. It was $2.99 when I bought many years ago. Gives you controls, does Star Trails, and more.
Sweet! I need to get a second hand iPhone and experience with it more!
Thanks for your amazing content
Samsung looks good. I need to get an adaptor so I can mount my phone to tripod. I assume the adapters are easy to buy?
Yeah they are cheap and universal. Just Google smartphone tripod adaptor. I bought a tripod from Wal-Mart that came with one.
Thank you!! I have an android, Motorola 5G Stylus. Setting the ISO and shutter speed allows for great pictures that I never realized was possible. Thank you!!
Just look at the iPhone's 30s shot's exif. You'll see it is 10sec. The other 20s is the process. And like other poeple wrote, it can shoot in dng. Also good to know the proRAW is not means professional but processed raw.
I'm a Samsung user as well. Thanks for a very informative video!
Very nice! But can you perhaps elaborate a bit more on what you did on the .dng? No stacking i suppose, as you only had 1 image, so how did you clean it up so nicely?
Yeah it was a single image. I did a small stretch using curves in Photoshop. I then removed the stars using RC Astor's StarXTerminator. From there I stretched the starless image a little more with curves. After that I ran RC Astro''s NoiseXTerminator. Then I proceeded to do some Camera Raw Filter adjustments such as clarity, de-haze, vibrance, and saturation. Finally I added the stars back and ran one more instance of NoiseXTerminator.
@@deltaastrophotography Awesome result! Thanks for the explanation!
Bare in mind that iphone used 50% more exposure time and still didn't beat the bigger sensor on galaxy . Hardware advantages really shine their best when you take out computational photography.
I was amazed by what I got with my Google Pixel 7 Pro from the Kaibab Lodge (North Rim) in June just out our cabin door by propping up my phone on a small table (didn't have a phone tripod mount with me). It will keep adding light for up to four minutes! I prefer using my Nikon Z6ii which is astro-modded, but it was cool to see what my camera could do.
Hey there!!
Amazing video. Can you please guide me with the settings to keep in the DeepSkyCamera app?
At what altitude did you take these photos? Google pixel will do much better with it's powerful software.
Great video, what iphone have you used?
Great info, thank you 🍻
Bery cool video!!
Hello. I have a Samsung S23 and new to all this. What app do I need to clean up the anticipated noise pollution? Thanks.
Why my iphone 15 pro has only 10 seconds at 1/2 am night?😢
It needs to be stable to get 30 seconds.
one most awaited videoooo
imagine photograph milkyway but phone delete stars because he thinks its noise 💀
Is there a way to get tracking with a gimble, say dji or insta 360?
I'm struggling with settings on my Oppo find X5 phone.
I just started using Expert RAW from the samsung store. It has an astro mode.
My phone is too old for that but I hope to upgrade soon. Have you tried the astro mode yet?
@deltaastrophotography yeah just tonight lol. My first ever "astrophotography" try. Clouds moved in and screwed it up. But I wasn't using any zoom and I got what I don't think is a terrible shot of m45 I think it is. A bit left of Jupiter.
Hey Walt, I love watching your videos and style that you present them in. Please keep them coming. THU.
My brother sent me your link when I lamented not having a sophisticated (or any) telescope to use to see the details of our galaxy and beyond….
So, we can see the milky way through the iPhone, but can it photograph the rings of Saturn ?
You would need to put your phone up to a telescope to get Saturn's rings. The Milky Way takes up an entire portion of the sky so it's very easy.
Definetly samsung
I shoot pro rodeo and i love the character thay a little grain and more stars gives
How do you focus the stars with an iPhone at night?
I phone. Samsunggg
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I like the samsung pic alot more
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Ok im clueless to tripods. How does the iPhone know it’s in on a tripod!? Can you recommend one for me please!
It detects movement I guess. It knows when it's very still while on a tripod. For my phone I just got a basic WalMart tripod for around $30. Works great!
I'm very very sad coz i cant do this on my phone,,, is it possible on Samsung Galaxy F13? Cannot found the speed option plz help me i love astrophotography 😭😭😭😭 from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
Hi Walt,
In a couple of days I will be heading to the southern most tip of Vancouver Island for a month. The new moon will be on the 16th. I am planning to shoot the milky way. If the skies are cloudy that day, how many days either side are reasonably good to shoot?
Regards, Lord Jack Thair
Hi there! I could be a little off since you are much farther north than me, but I would say your best window would be around 10:30/11:00 at night between Aug. 8 and 22. Give or take a day or two on both sides.
@@deltaastrophotography Thanks. I was looking at Stellarium. The milky way will be at it's highest point around midnight, slightly east of south.
Why didn’t you shoot in raw with the iPhone?
Apple charging money for basic camera functions is a very Apple thing to do.
Hey Walt. So my phone uses android OS, so my camera is a lot like your Samsung. I do have the option to save my photos in RAW format. So here are my questions:
1) Can you stack the images from the phone camera?
2) My phone camera also has an HDR feature. Should I leave it on, or turn it off?
Thanks for your time answering my questions. I plan to check out Staunton River Park in VA in a few days. It is a registered dark sky location and is a bortle 4, so I may try this when I am there.
I do have a general question about the bortle scale. So when I look at the light pollution map, it gives the bortle number, but I also see something called Artificial Brightness. I assume that is related to the amount of light pollution, so I try to find the lowest Artificial Brightness number I can. Am I correct? And if I am, wouldn't that make the bortle scale a bit inaccurate, since there can be a range of Artificial Brightness per bortle number?
I've never tried it, but I believe you can stack. You can get intervelometer apps for your phone that will take multiple photos for you. It's handy for time lapses, but it could be great for stacking as well. You might have to load all your photos into Lightroom and save them all as uncompressed TIFF before stacking in software like Sequator. I would leave HDR off for these kinds of photos. Tuesday is the full moon so make sure you go out there a few days after that so the moon won't ruin your shot! I'm not very familiar with Artificial Brightness, so I'll look into that!
@@deltaastrophotography Great! Yeah, I am just going to the park to see if it is accessible 24 hrs and whether there is an open area that gives me access to most of the sky. Like I said, it was named an International Dark Sky Park by the International Dark-Sky Association (IDA), so I hope to it will be my new dark site since it is only a 90 min drive. Keep up the great videos!
Amazing. I thought you needed a telescope.
How did you remove the noice from the raw img
Did anyone try using pixel? It has a mode for it
Thanks, going to try in inner mongolia china end of Aug.
What iPhone was used and was it switched onto raw?
I don't remember which model, but it was not switched to Raw. I plan on making this video again this summer and using someone's IPhone and switching it to RAW this time.
My ev automatically sets to +2 and all I get is a blurry white picture, help anyone
Me I have light pollution but at 12 am all the lights turn off
I have the same Galaxy but I can't get the shutter speed higher them 10 seconds. Anyone any suggestions
Depends on your model. All he says in the video is "Samsung Galaxy", but it looks to be atleast the S21(+ or Ultra).
If you have the S9 or S10, you might be limited. If you have a newer model, make sure you're using "Pro-Mode" or Expert Raw.
I have the A33 so it should work ?
The iPhone photo looked a lot worse
Tripod with iPhone 13 Pro and could not get over 3-5 second exposure. Professional tripod…. What could it be? Bummed
Yeah that sucks! I wish I had an iPhone to go and an figure things out. We had to let my friend's iPhone sit on the tripod for several seconds before it detected it was on the tripod. But it could be a number of things. I wish I could be of more help with this.
I Have iphone 14 pro Max But I didn’t get a good picture why ?
I don't have an iPhone so I'm not entirely sure, but several commenters have suggesting using Raw Pro. I'm not sure if that's an app you buy or if it comes with newer IPhones. But it seems to give much better results.
It's called samsung GALAXY for a reason.
Lol
Thxxxxx love you
take a bunch of raw files from android and stack them in sequator.
I've considered that! I actually have an app called Deep Sky Camera that has a built-in intervalometer so I could take multiple images. I'm going to have to give that a shot!
@deltaastrophotography Hey there!!
I have a galaxy A52s which doesn't save in RAW format in the native app. Deep sky camera does provide that feature. Can you please make a video on the same?
Do you know how dark the location has to be to be able to capture the Milky Way?
I live in a Bortle 3/4 area. I get a good bit of light pollution near the horizon so basically all my photos look like they are taken at sunset. Still very nice shots of the Milky Way. I would say once you get higher than Bortle 4, you are going to start having a difficult time.
This needs and update with iphone proraw
I wish someone would let me use an IPhone for a week to play with.
The Samsung took a better photo cause... well, it's a Galaxy.
Lol I agree though
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I absolutely HATE Crapple products so I'm totally biased toward the Samsung (Android). I think the detail with the Samsung makes up for the noise. I'm horrible when it comes to editing so I would post the raw Samsung image on IG in a heartbeat!
I also HATE Crapple as well so I feel you!
@@deltaastrophotographybut isn’t Samsung faking their moon photos?? 😂
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What tripod😩
I used a cheap ONN brand tripod from Wal-Mart. It came with the cellphone holder.
Ur so underrate
Samsung image is much better.
Google Pixel's image is MUCH MUCH better than both of them, due to Astrophotography mode.
I agree. Iphone had A high noise reduction. And a Samsung had more detail and He reduced noise in photoshop.
@@richardsouk4374isn't compared to in the video but I do have a google pixel and bortle 1 skies 2 hours away from me
OMG NO WAY?!
@@richardsouk4374 Samsung also has astrophotography mode on expert raw app
Light pollution here😢
Team Samsung ❤
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iPhone image is shitty! Samsung is way better. IPhone user here.