For some reason the video was cut in post processing. The last few seconds after the Momoshiki section was just wrap up and closing thoughts. If you got that far, you got the gist of the hypothetical either way. Thanks guys.
@teezy786 I appreciate the feedback. Truly. I know a lot of people default to that response, but I take comments to heart and try to improve. What I will say about longer content is that generally speaking, people are less willing to watch loooong-form content nowadays, and the videos will tank. It's a lot of effort that goes into the scripting, and editing, and unfortunately in some way the effort should be merited. Either through views and channel growth, financially or by overwhelming enjoyment of the audience. I'll put out a poll. See what people think. I'd like to make longer content, but it's difficult to justify without the majority being willing to watch it. Again. Thank you for the feedback.
And if we maximise his potential that being Giving him other half of kurama , So6p and full eight gates . I see him being a multi planetary lvl threath
If Naruto reached his maximum potential he would be a sealing Jutsu God if there's one thing that I feel like Kishimoto slacked on it's the fact that he never had Naruto learn sealing Jutsu that's literally the staple for his clan and it just makes sense given that he's a jinchuriki. And I don't count the magnet style Rasengan. I mean real Sealing Jutsu.
This makes total sense, but the issue is, sealing jutsu is a touch of death maneuver. It either lands and the opponent immediately is dead or disabled or it doesn't work and the enemy has anti-sealing hax.
@ProbablyRiku I've never seen a character in Naruto that couldn't get stopped even temporarily by a sealing Jutsu besides we're talking about Naruto is fullest potential you can't ignore this aspect even if it gives him too many hacks. Besides there are plenty of sealing jutsus that aren't hacks and would add so much versatility to Naruto's Arsenal for example Tenten's scrolls employee sealing Jutsu to input and remove items or he could use sealing Jutsu as a defensive option by employing sealing barriers to store and then redirect enemy attacks similar to momoshiki or the scientific ninja tool.
My biggest problem with Naruto's development is for sure the time he spent with Jiraya, before the timeskip, he teached him the Rasengan, summoning jutsu and how to tap into the Kyubi's chakra right? And how long was that, i think a few weeks, in the years he spent with him during the timeskip, he should've cameback as a totally different shinobi, knowing at least unperfected sage mode, being able to summon toads perfectly, a few wind jutstus since that's his afinity, etc.
Pre-watch comment The only way I can see Naruto reaching his maximum potential is through consistent use of the multi-shadow clone training method. The only way I can see us, the fans, seeing that is through an actual Naruto Part 3 and/or true reboot of Naruto. I'm hoping for an actual Naruto Part 3 and/or reboot(not remake) after Boruto ends. Though, I think a remake(not reboot) anime of OG Naruto is all but guaranteed considering the response to the 9-minute anniversary promo from 2022. I expect that to come first before anything else from the Naruto franchise after Boruto.
I have been saying this for YEARS.... Naruto should've been strong. Heck, the Konoha 12 should've been stronger. In hindsight, you could say Kakashi and Jiraiya were bad teachers, but they taught him the most notable techniques he knows (AKA, it was just bad writing choices). Sakura and Sasuke left Naruto behind in turns of progression in the timeskip.
To be fair to Jiraiya we're not really sure how long they spent trying to get Naruto to control Kuramas power. Since we see just how strong Naruto became when he tapped into it multiple times in Part 1 which helped him beat Haku, fight Orochimaru, beat Neji, not dying to Gaara and match Curse Mark Sasuke it's entirely reasonable for Jiraiya to realise that controlling Kuramas power was Narutos ticket to fighting the Akatsuki. Hell we see how powerful he gets in Shippuden with it too. He matched Orochimaru and only survived against Pain because of it. Plus in an out of universe answer having your protagonist learn some abilities off screen isn't a good idea.
Naruto Sage Mode x100 Sakura Strength of 100 Seal x100 Choji Bufferfly Modd x100 Guy 8th Gate x100 Those are the x100 multipliers in the series besides movies.
@@ProbablyRiku great. To use sage mode you need to balance your energy of spiritual physical and nature aroung you. To use the gate you basically need to be imbalance by opening more than the usual chakra by opening more of your chakra points. That's why it can arm the user also why they don't keep the transformation active too long. So the 2 transformation don't match in the there mechanisms
Well your analysis of Sage Mode is correct, but the presumption that the gates causes an imbalance is built on a small falsehood. Each of the gates only have the ability to harm the user if/when the users body is unprepared for the level of stress that their own potential can bring out. It has nothing to do with the balance of Chakra. It's more like putting a rubber band in the freezer and trying to stretch it to full length. Same principle in real life. But here are the bigger issues. Later in the series, both Guy and Lee were able to open gates as high as 5-7 without any real drawbacks. Of course this could be chalked up to inconsistencies, but it's really just training and allowing their bodies to get used to the extreme potential of their own Chakra. Then there's sage mode. Which first and foremost buffs the users body in a myriad of ways that do more to negate the drawbacks of the gates than the aforementioned Guy or Lee have access to. Namely the Durability Amp. Now, if you think of gates and sage mode as a multiplicative stack, then perhaps you could argue that the stress would remain equal as the body floods with a more powerful Chakra, the stresses too would become more powerful. But this is not an issue of whether it's possible, rather, just a management of risk. Risks that tends to only present itself with higher gates 5-8 and only when extremely stressful situations are encountered (Hidden Lotus, Asa Kujaku, Hirudora).
Naruto being taught properly is like asking a hooker to be celibate for a week your fucked. Naruto’s story is him being neglected as a student until the vary last minute and no other choice is available
Too bad pluging the controller into characters doesn't work in verse. The kind of Chakra control necessary to perform some of the feats your giving him isn't something he naturally has, nor tge capacity for high level medical ninjutsu. At some point his head would be overloaded by clone information and fatigue which is ehy Kakashi told him it was an unsustainable way to train even for someone with as much chakra as Naruto. He's still an ashura reincarnate, without the proper interpretation's Naruto could understand like with how jiraya taught him the rasengan through explaining chakra flow direction in the. He would not be going to far even with literally every tool available
@@jiero3253 Idk why the assumption that Chakra Control and Naruto are somehow unable to be intertwined. Somewhere the idea that Naruto is inept really crept into the Fandom and has stuck. Try not to discount that Naruto Learned Sage Mode and KCM in the equivalent of two weeks. That's not accounting for the time he spent learning Frog Kata. Naruto has been shown to take concepts that prodigies were unable to master, and trivialize them. Neither Kakashi, Minato nor Jiraiya every could manage to infuse an element into the rasengan. Naruto managed it. Minato nor Jiraiya managed to master sage mode. Naruto did. If fatigue is an issue, why wouldn't he just rest? Lol. I appreciate the long-form discussion, but we have to face facts.
but when isshiki arrives they are screwed, also assuming naruto sacrifices himself to save the leaf village in the beginning of the momo arc they are also screwed since there is no rinnegan sasuke to teleport to momoshiki's dimension to rescue naruto. Without six paths and rinnegan sasuke I don't see naruto standing up to fused momo either, cause six paths gives him a far greather stat buff than the gates. Also, naruto will have even more trouble sensing the rods than he already did without six paths
@@ProbablyRiku Jiraya perhaps? Or Hiruzen? There is also bound to be scrolls and books on the matter both in Kohnoha and perhaps some in the ruins of Uzugkure, plus Minatos and Kushinas place
It seems super unlikely to me that Orochimaru knew of the Uzushiogakure ruins, but didn't steal everything there. Or even when they were destroyed during the war, it wouldn't make much sense to me that the invading nations didn't pillage the country lol I should have spoken about it to some extent, but I doubt the Uzumaki were open about keeping their scrolls and teachings available, even under the circumstances that they were invaded.
@@waffleenjoyer-re3pg Probably but I dont see any version of Naruto trying to ascend dimensionality so him being the 2nd strongest is still a feat of itself in this hypothesis
For some reason the video was cut in post processing. The last few seconds after the Momoshiki section was just wrap up and closing thoughts. If you got that far, you got the gist of the hypothetical either way. Thanks guys.
My only complaint about your videos is they're not long enough but that's a minor complaint.
@teezy786
I appreciate the feedback. Truly. I know a lot of people default to that response, but I take comments to heart and try to improve.
What I will say about longer content is that generally speaking, people are less willing to watch loooong-form content nowadays, and the videos will tank.
It's a lot of effort that goes into the scripting, and editing, and unfortunately in some way the effort should be merited. Either through views and channel growth, financially or by overwhelming enjoyment of the audience.
I'll put out a poll. See what people think. I'd like to make longer content, but it's difficult to justify without the majority being willing to watch it.
Again. Thank you for the feedback.
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Remember, Naruto has regen due to 9 tales chakra snd natural uzamaki genes. So he'd be even more OP with eight gates
And if we maximise his potential that being Giving him other half of kurama , So6p and full eight gates . I see him being a multi planetary lvl threath
If Naruto reached his maximum potential he would be a sealing Jutsu God if there's one thing that I feel like Kishimoto slacked on it's the fact that he never had Naruto learn sealing Jutsu that's literally the staple for his clan and it just makes sense given that he's a jinchuriki. And I don't count the magnet style Rasengan. I mean real Sealing Jutsu.
This makes total sense, but the issue is, sealing jutsu is a touch of death maneuver. It either lands and the opponent immediately is dead or disabled or it doesn't work and the enemy has anti-sealing hax.
@ProbablyRiku I've never seen a character in Naruto that couldn't get stopped even temporarily by a sealing Jutsu besides we're talking about Naruto is fullest potential you can't ignore this aspect even if it gives him too many hacks. Besides there are plenty of sealing jutsus that aren't hacks and would add so much versatility to Naruto's Arsenal for example Tenten's scrolls employee sealing Jutsu to input and remove items or he could use sealing Jutsu as a defensive option by employing sealing barriers to store and then redirect enemy attacks similar to momoshiki or the scientific ninja tool.
Haku is a female Shinobi I fully agree with you that he is a female 😋
@@kranime2464
*she
@@ProbablyRikuhaku is a boy mean salwar me talwar😂
Haku is a girl just that the writer wants to be Gay
@ProbablyRiku
Dawg is in denial
Yup seems right
I love he he mad sure to say. “Haku, a FEMALE shinobi”
My biggest problem with Naruto's development is for sure the time he spent with Jiraya, before the timeskip, he teached him the Rasengan, summoning jutsu and how to tap into the Kyubi's chakra right? And how long was that, i think a few weeks, in the years he spent with him during the timeskip, he should've cameback as a totally different shinobi, knowing at least unperfected sage mode, being able to summon toads perfectly, a few wind jutstus since that's his afinity, etc.
I feel like sage mode and 8 gates( 3rd gate onwards) would be extremely hard to combine due to the contrasting jutsus at least at the start.
Comparing orochimaru to Drake is fucking hilarious, way too accurate 😂
Pre-watch comment
The only way I can see Naruto reaching his maximum potential is through consistent use of the multi-shadow clone training method. The only way I can see us, the fans, seeing that is through an actual Naruto Part 3 and/or true reboot of Naruto.
I'm hoping for an actual Naruto Part 3 and/or reboot(not remake) after Boruto ends. Though, I think a remake(not reboot) anime of OG Naruto is all but guaranteed considering the response to the 9-minute anniversary promo from 2022. I expect that to come first before anything else from the Naruto franchise after Boruto.
Jiraiya and Kakashi are the worst teachers in all of shounen its not close
I have been saying this for YEARS.... Naruto should've been strong. Heck, the Konoha 12 should've been stronger. In hindsight, you could say Kakashi and Jiraiya were bad teachers, but they taught him the most notable techniques he knows (AKA, it was just bad writing choices). Sakura and Sasuke left Naruto behind in turns of progression in the timeskip.
To be fair to Jiraiya we're not really sure how long they spent trying to get Naruto to control Kuramas power. Since we see just how strong Naruto became when he tapped into it multiple times in Part 1 which helped him beat Haku, fight Orochimaru, beat Neji, not dying to Gaara and match Curse Mark Sasuke it's entirely reasonable for Jiraiya to realise that controlling Kuramas power was Narutos ticket to fighting the Akatsuki.
Hell we see how powerful he gets in Shippuden with it too. He matched Orochimaru and only survived against Pain because of it.
Plus in an out of universe answer having your protagonist learn some abilities off screen isn't a good idea.
Do what if Tsunade adopted Naruto
Naruto Sage Mode x100
Sakura Strength of 100 Seal x100
Choji Bufferfly Modd x100
Guy 8th Gate x100
Those are the x100 multipliers in the series besides movies.
Not sure that you can mix the gates with sage mode. Because of how they work
@@mystarkiller1 I'd love to hear your opinion on why you think that. This isn't some rage bait or something.
@@ProbablyRiku great. To use sage mode you need to balance your energy of spiritual physical and nature aroung you.
To use the gate you basically need to be imbalance by opening more than the usual chakra by opening more of your chakra points. That's why it can arm the user also why they don't keep the transformation active too long.
So the 2 transformation don't match in the there mechanisms
So the kaioken and ssj right
Well your analysis of Sage Mode is correct, but the presumption that the gates causes an imbalance is built on a small falsehood.
Each of the gates only have the ability to harm the user if/when the users body is unprepared for the level of stress that their own potential can bring out. It has nothing to do with the balance of Chakra. It's more like putting a rubber band in the freezer and trying to stretch it to full length. Same principle in real life.
But here are the bigger issues.
Later in the series, both Guy and Lee were able to open gates as high as 5-7 without any real drawbacks. Of course this could be chalked up to inconsistencies, but it's really just training and allowing their bodies to get used to the extreme potential of their own Chakra.
Then there's sage mode. Which first and foremost buffs the users body in a myriad of ways that do more to negate the drawbacks of the gates than the aforementioned Guy or Lee have access to. Namely the Durability Amp.
Now, if you think of gates and sage mode as a multiplicative stack, then perhaps you could argue that the stress would remain equal as the body floods with a more powerful Chakra, the stresses too would become more powerful.
But this is not an issue of whether it's possible, rather, just a management of risk. Risks that tends to only present itself with higher gates 5-8 and only when extremely stressful situations are encountered (Hidden Lotus, Asa Kujaku, Hirudora).
Naruto being taught properly is like asking a hooker to be celibate for a week your fucked. Naruto’s story is him being neglected as a student until the vary last minute and no other choice is available
@@damianmorningstar3150
This comment has so much unhinged energy. 😂
THIS 100%
Wouldn't the 3rd gate throw off sage mode
Too bad pluging the controller into characters doesn't work in verse.
The kind of Chakra control necessary to perform some of the feats your giving him isn't something he naturally has, nor tge capacity for high level medical ninjutsu. At some point his head would be overloaded by clone information and fatigue which is ehy Kakashi told him it was an unsustainable way to train even for someone with as much chakra as Naruto.
He's still an ashura reincarnate, without the proper interpretation's Naruto could understand like with how jiraya taught him the rasengan through explaining chakra flow direction in the. He would not be going to far even with literally every tool available
@@jiero3253
Idk why the assumption that Chakra Control and Naruto are somehow unable to be intertwined. Somewhere the idea that Naruto is inept really crept into the Fandom and has stuck.
Try not to discount that Naruto Learned Sage Mode and KCM in the equivalent of two weeks.
That's not accounting for the time he spent learning Frog Kata.
Naruto has been shown to take concepts that prodigies were unable to master, and trivialize them.
Neither Kakashi, Minato nor Jiraiya every could manage to infuse an element into the rasengan. Naruto managed it.
Minato nor Jiraiya managed to master sage mode. Naruto did.
If fatigue is an issue, why wouldn't he just rest? Lol.
I appreciate the long-form discussion, but we have to face facts.
@@ProbablyRikutbh he still could get a powerup like hidari.
@@Dagoat_113"Hero's Comeback"
Exactly @@ProbablyRiku
Boruto
Or
Bleach
I don’t like bleach but I hate boruto more so Bleach
Boruto am biased
BLEACH 🔥🔥🔥
Boruto, its newer content and reaps more analysis
bleach for now but maybe boruto later on in TBV
but when isshiki arrives they are screwed, also assuming naruto sacrifices himself to save the leaf village in the beginning of the momo arc they are also screwed since there is no rinnegan sasuke to teleport to momoshiki's dimension to rescue naruto. Without six paths and rinnegan sasuke I don't see naruto standing up to fused momo either, cause six paths gives him a far greather stat buff than the gates. Also, naruto will have even more trouble sensing the rods than he already did without six paths
Aww no fuinjutsu
The issue is. Who is teaching him? I tried to keep things in line with what was possible.
@@ProbablyRiku Jiraya perhaps? Or Hiruzen? There is also bound to be scrolls and books on the matter both in Kohnoha and perhaps some in the ruins of Uzugkure, plus Minatos and Kushinas place
@@ProbablyRikuyou know that uzumaki building in konoha that orochimaru went to, what if Naruto was sent there to take the scrolls and learn them
It seems super unlikely to me that Orochimaru knew of the Uzushiogakure ruins, but didn't steal everything there. Or even when they were destroyed during the war, it wouldn't make much sense to me that the invading nations didn't pillage the country lol
I should have spoken about it to some extent, but I doubt the Uzumaki were open about keeping their scrolls and teachings available, even under the circumstances that they were invaded.
@@ProbablyRiku for one they could have used blood seals or other fuinjutsu to make sure no non Uzumaki could acces them
I think he would rawdog the franchise and even Boruto era villains BUUUT he's not ever reaching Shibai or endgame Boruto whatever may that be.
He could get a karma also
@@supercool_manbroyeah, since he would solo momoshiki, so boruto wouldn't be there and wouldn't be needed,
@@waffleenjoyer-re3pg Probably but I dont see any version of Naruto trying to ascend dimensionality so him being the 2nd strongest is still a feat of itself in this hypothesis
perhaps naruto should've developed hims instead of perfecting his talk no jutsu
Goku is smarter than naruto though..
Naruto literally works for the equivalent of the government Goku was counting to one using his fingers in super broly what is this take
@timothyaintit5989 ??