We own the generations Arcee, we actually got it a couple years back on sale at BBTS with some other generations figures. I feel like we're getting less for more. Quality has definitely been trending downward, asking with QC. Reddit had people finding their Netflix Soundwaves are yellowing. I got worried checked and yeah, I'm lucky that while it's happening it's limited in scope and severity ( for now ).
I have joked "Hasbro doesn't know what QC is!" because 3rd Party and Bandai have it much better. Also I know of 1 Bandai Hand Gernade (RG Zeta) but Hasbro has it in mitiple ways. Hasbro, use better color seperation to make it cheeper and better.
I'd have called her "Becky 2: Electric Boogaloo!" This is the closest I've seen Hasbro to just give up. My guess is they saw how saturated the market was with Arcee. (She's quickly passing Soundwave and approach Bee and OP levels of remolds.) Even if they wanted to they couldn't engineer her differently from Earthrise or the Bumblebee movie. So they decided to steer into the skid. They are banking that once you have the other character in MPM form, you'll come back to Arcee to complete the set. (Jokes on them. Bionicle broke me of that habit back in 2006!) I'm happy subbing which ever Arcee I like. And there are a lot of them. Better luck next time, which will probably be the next toyline in 5 months.
This SS86 Arcee is pretty cool. Like how this is retooled from the Generations Thrilling 30 Arcee. I honestly like this shade of pink. But yeah, more weapons would have been nice. Like the pink gun and rifle from the Masterpiece Arcee.
Personally, I'm just considering driving out the pin of the ER Arcee and just turning her into a "Red" figure with an upgrade kit. I always find the massive backpack a lot of G1 inspired Arcee figs have, a massive distraction for me.
The Earthrise Arcee is without a doubt an awful, terrible, absolutely wretched Transformer that isn't even worth taking out or robot mode, but on the flip side I will always stand my ground that she is honestly the best Arcee action figure we've gotten. If you take off the backpack and replace it with your decorative wings of choosing she really is fantastic as just a poseable representation of the character. The fact you can have her posed beside her car mode is actually fun choice of display. It sucks that she's a god-awful Transformer, but it's at least nice that she's a really good action figure.
Fun fact the first arcee toy was a very very slight retool transmetal 2 blackarachnia. Why was it slightly remolded? We’ll become the og transmetal 2 blackarachnia had a rather interesting gimmick.
Hastak’s price gouging since siege has been really grinding my gears. Why the fuck are they not only charging double the price for figures of the same quality and size as thrilling 30s for double the price, and rereleasing old figures for the same price as now. Inflation has not halved the value of the Canadian, let alone American dollar, so how are they justifying these prices? Like setting the new benchmark back in siege should have been kept for like a decade before the next price hike. I spent 37 CAD on speedia Blurr the other day, and 45 on Buzzsaw. What happened to the days of deluxes costing 20 CAD and that was it? 30 CAD for 20 CAD TR deluxes my ass. This is ridiculous.
@@BlitzkriegOmega The portion of customers that get priced out need to do a better job choosing hobbies they can afford. Inflation is a real thing, no matter how much we don’t like it, and the increased costs of materials, operations, labor, marketing, and distribution has to eventually trickle down to the consumer.
@@JROD082384 Inflation is real, but the cost of everything not just Transformers is being gouged significantly higher than inflation. I really notice this working in a Starbucks kiosk for only like 10 months, because every few months they raise the prices again without even letting us know. We find out when customers complain, and then buy it anyway because they are addicted to sugar or caffeine. In this period of 10 months the prices of almost everything we sell went from good or a little high, to just ok or really bad.
@@JROD082384 There's a difference between actual inflation (which tends to be less than 3% a year) and "Using a global crisis to gouge your customer base". Yes, the Pandemic caused a big inflationary surge, which should have only accounted for maybe a 10% rise in prices, but it was paired up with Big Businesses gaining an excuse to pump up the price of basically everything by 30% or more because they *can*.
♪ The Transformers / toys you can't afford / the Transformers / all that you can hoard / Toy execs laugh while draining out / every last penny from your bank account ... ♫
I never saw the old one in stores, so I'm tempted to get this one and give her Laser Prime's sword. Also, I think they should've gone further with beefing up her forearms so they could add wrist swivels
I already have a Takara Arcee so this is a pretty easy skip. If I ever see it on clearance I might buy one to display them in different modes but if I can’t then I won’t lose any sleep over it.
id say now that the ss86 arcee is so discounted on amazon, that one is probably the better choice now considering its practically a core class in price
Agreed on the Arcee assessment. Ab joint QC is apparently a gamble, as I definitely needed to put some floor polish in there to keep the pelvis from disengaging when ... anything was moved. However, she can do an excellent "hunched over with hands clawing in front of her in order to scare children" pose now.
Another thing in favor of the 86 is that if you live somewhere where BBTS shipping is a lot (Like me in Hawaii where it's $15 to ship anything from bbts) finding it in stores will be saving a pretty penny for a nearly identical experience. That extra $15 can easily go towards toyhaxing or even an upgrade kit.
Interesting. Yeah, I didn't even realize that would be a problem. And I guess that's a fine place for this figure to exist. It's a cheap alternative to the thing it's almost identical too.
I don't see it as particularly obvious my self. Like yes you can tell what part they are, but you can do that with most characters. Like Optimus's bed is clearly made out of his legs, but I don't think in practice they are obviously legs.
when learned about the Studio Series version was remade from the Thrilling 30 and that BigBadToy Store had the latter still instate I went for the old one. Studio's may have ankle tilt but Thrilling 30 has the ability to cross their legs and a lager accessory count.
I get what they were going for with the pink, but it is still boring, and the gun is so lame, straight copy stolen from the other figure and only one of them.
@@PerspectiveEnd bruh it’s insane. Last month I believe was prime and cyclonus along with their repaints. Just now releasing is arcee and grimlock with their repaints. Finally they’ve announced and already have had people review/show off Jetfire and inferno.
@@PerspectiveEnd I like the brighter pink of the t30 and even if arcee doesn't use swords or the dildo gun, that's more for the same price, I'm sure I can find some figures to pawn em off on lol I was really confused when this was first announced because people were all over the place with declaring what it was and wasn't, your video did a great job breaking down what was basically the same and what was new
I got mine yesterday, in the UK - wasn't even expecting her to be released here yet! - and... it has QC issues. One of her arms constantly pops off at the elbow :/
Really? I would have thought it was the shoulder. I didn't even realize it could come off there at all, kind of though it was pinned. Sorry to hear about yours.
I am a little tempted to get this at some point, but seeing as how I do have the Generations Arcee with the Platinum deco, I'm in no rush to get one at the minute
The most interesting thing about this figure is that they’re retooling a figure this old, to the point of using the same parts, at normal retail. I can think of them doing that for repaints a few times like the armada beasts(technically retools because they added minicon pegs, shut up), but never like this
The original T30 Arcee never came out in New Zealand, but I grabbed her and Chromia (the retool of Prime Arcee) of BBTS back when their international shipping was actually cheaper than buying my own Transformers factory, so I think I'll stick with that one. Probably would have grabbed this one in a world where the internet didn't exist though assuming we ever start getting new waves again.
Wish it couldve been a new mold as for how good the old figure is, its still a big shellformer and they couldve made a better effort to reduce the backpack
Also the fact that they had the option to include her screen accurate red visor shown in the 86 movie like the one included with hot rods 86 figure and they just decided it wasn’t worth the effort :/
That's the thing it's so hard to say. All the Arcees try to be so different typically it's hard to rate them, if you remember I made it a tie last time. So I'd say this is right there with the Gencee, just a little behind it.
Yeah this is the best mainline arcee. The ER had a decent robot mode but that’s about it, the generations one is fine but has a lot of limitations and honestly the hips look bad. This one looks better, poses better, I like the colors better, the transformation is more fun and involved, and overall it feels like the most definitive version of the character we’ve gotten in the mainline. I was skeptical when they first revealed her but she has easily taken the spot of definitive arcee on the shelf, and it makes me SUPER excited for ironhide.
It's a good figure for sure. It's just a little bit Superfluous when it's not different enough to the Gencee, but it's not the same enough to just be a Rerelease.
I have a figure I want to return that I bought on amazon, I have the box and everything that came inside, do I need to put the strings that hold the figure in place back on?
Nah. You just need to put it in a regular brown box that you can seal up, otherwise the UPS store you return it to will charge you for a box, and I've seen it be like 8 bucks for a box there.
I was thinking of getting this figure but I’ve just decided to have Legacy be my Arcee. Also Sludge rules, Motormaster rules, and IDW Blurr is better than 86.
Sludge is soo good isn't he! Also Legacy can't be your Arcee, because they just aren't the same character. Primecee is blatantly supposed to be Chromia.
Apparently the rising prices are due to rising labor costs in china or Vietnam, so they have to charge more but can’t make figures better without raising the cost even more.
Velocitron 500 has landed in Australia. Was lucky enough to be able to get the 2 figures I really wanted for my Shattered Glass collection: Hauler (SG Grapple) and Burn Out (SG Skids). Was also hoping for Clampdown however he and Cosmos had completely sold out before I arrived (the day they were stocked). There was 1 Burn Out, 1 Road Rocket, 2 Blurrs, 2 Haulers, 2 Overrides and 6 Scourges. Gotta love that distribution. Didn't buy Scourge as I have him on Pre Order for only $60 AUD thanks to a fluff up from EB Games.I'm glad I was able to get the ones I wanted at least.
I mean that sound about the same as it is here in the US, just Slightly later. I mean I only found that stuff like LAST week. So it's not even that much slower. Glad you found the stuff you wanted.
I honestly thimk the backpack is better than T30 - it IS a tiny bit longer, but significantly narrower, to show less in a mostly frontal robot mode display. Overall, though, I mostly concur - she's a minor improvement on T30 at most, and the Takara version is an even closer race. I don't regret getting her as well, but probably won't buy another version at this point unless they branch out to, like, the Terminator crossover comic's earth mode for her, and not being a big comics fan even that is iffy..
I don't find it to be a tiny bit longer, More significantly longer, but yes it is a bit slimmer. This isn't a bad figure, I just think it's a bit superfluous. I did really like her Design in Vs the Terminator.
So........ According to the early drafts of transformers the movie at tfnation there was some unique things like 1: there was an autobot snake train boi, 2: 2 other autobots one of them looking like a steam punk bot, 3: the sweeps were supposed to have mono eyes and were black 4: kup was supposed to an autobot tank veteran named tanker (i need a toy of this design) 5: wheeljack was supposed to be in the main cast 6: kranix was supposed to fight the sharkticon then get eaten..... tbh thats a way to go out 7: the quintissons did not look like eggs 8: ultra magnus looked like a more red and blue version of orion pax with spikes 9: instead of the matrix it was supposed to be rhe spirit of optimus and some crap alongside the spirit of megs 10: ok this was not part of the early drafts at tfnation but according to one of the writers said that skylynx and predaking were supposed to be in the movie but the predacons were going to be autobots and skylynx was going to be a decepticon 11: the sharkticons had peach lips 12: the last and weird one of them all remember when i said wheeljack was going to be part of the original cast............ Well he was going to be sexist to arcee....... say what now!? and he was going to be one of arcee's love intrests WHAT IS GOING ON?!? and he apologizes to arcee on being sexist in the end...... thats his arc this entire movie realizing girl power.........WAT! 13: you know the corination starscream design??? Well the seeker trio all original were gonna have that design except the shoulder pads and cape were in their colour scheme 14: a junkion design looked like if a german soldier became a biker and was named scrapo 15: galvatron was in his original toy colour scheme before changing to just purple
To be honest i had no clue the 86 arcee was anything other than a repaint of the earthrise arcee. That mold being so garbage i ignored the 86 version. I have the generations takara version so i'll honestly stick with it.
Great review PerspectiveEnd!!! I can forgive the flaws of this figure, since I am just happy to have a more G1 accurate Arcee figure then what we got with Earthrise/Kingdom. lol Keep on being amazing.
I think if the did what they did to 86 hotrod and have a flip out red visor and a second pistol or maybe a rifle this arcee might feel a bit better or more on par with generations.
I picked up his figure yesterday and she's... odd? She's better than the ER one, that's for sure. As I don't have the Generations one, I can't say anything about that figure so I can only compare her to the ER and LegArcee, despite the latter being a different design. I do much prefer the LegArcee, but the 86 one is okay for a G1 version
I would get the generations arcee. But bbts and i have problems. They take out the money later than i thought. So im wary about that if i buy soemthing from them
Another Arcee, another reminder how good the Animated figure was. Maybe this figure will speak to me when I see it in person like Kickback did but I don't think I have any reason to get this. And it's sad I can't recommend the Animated as easy because the price on ebay now is absolutely ridiculous. So...Yeah I'm gonna have to go with..Teacher Becky? Aunt Becky? I can't think of anything better than that
@@PerspectiveEnd if it ain’t a masterpiece then it ain’t good enough and even the masterpiece had it’s issues actually when has there ever been a good Arcee .
This is exactly why I don’t fret over missing a figure. They’re just going to re-release it, if not a little changed and at worse it’s a downgrade but it’s still a good way to beat the system
Duller than I'd hoped, but to be expected from a pre-modern mold, decent, but reused parts really makes the price insulting, as you said Deluxes used to be the most accessible
I just pre-ordered eighty ceex from Best Buy with some Best Buy cash I needed to spend before expiring. However, I already have Tak-Arcee (and Nightbird), which I bought on ebay for almost commander class pricing because I wanted an Arcee that was fun to transform as well as accurate. But I never opened it because it was expensive. Now that this eighty ceex is out, more accessible, slightly more accurate, and definitely less sexualized, I might consider parting with Tak-Arcee as long as I can make equivalent money back.
I don't remember it coming separate, but it might have, or it might have just fallen out and gotten lost. If it came separate it would just be in the accessory baggy.
@@PerspectiveEnd no baggie, gun was strapped next to her. Got it on clearance for $11, but Best Buy is out now. Ugh. My first Tarantulas from them was missing part of a insect leg. At least I could exchange that.
At least unlike Starscream, he hasn't wasted his chance, so here's to hoping he gets redeemed here. Question is will he be a Commander-class coz he STILL needs to have the white Optimus mode he never had at all in the cartoon, or be a Leader that's a mini-MP, i.e. no inner cab robot.
Oh, I legit thought this was just a kingdom repaint. Kinda surprised it's a gen rework. I definitely prefer the melon smashing thighs on the old, but the new non human waist makes me feel way less uncomfortable.
I think the new Studio Series hotrod looks like a Studio Series figure. I've got no real insights beyond that. It's ugly, looks nothing like the character I like. But it's probably exactly what movie fans want. The Crosshairs looks like it was REALLY badly executed. Like they tried but the idea they had was crap.
![HEAD SWAP: RODIMUS PRIME - [POWER OF THE PRIMES] HEAD SCULPT ON [KINGDOM] BODY](/img/n.gif)
The fact that this was reused from generations makes me wish they did that for Kingdom Rhinox
God that would have been so much better. I wonder what my reaction to that would have been?
Same
We own the generations Arcee, we actually got it a couple years back on sale at BBTS with some other generations figures.
I feel like we're getting less for more. Quality has definitely been trending downward, asking with QC. Reddit had people finding their Netflix Soundwaves are yellowing. I got worried checked and yeah, I'm lucky that while it's happening it's limited in scope and severity ( for now ).
I have joked "Hasbro doesn't know what QC is!" because 3rd Party and Bandai have it much better. Also I know of 1 Bandai Hand Gernade (RG Zeta) but Hasbro has it in mitiple ways.
Hasbro, use better color seperation to make it cheeper and better.
I've only recently started hearing about the Soundwave Yellowing, but I don't know what it looks like.
Finding this figure in a store surrounded by hoards of Earthrise/Kingdom Arcees was like finding an oasis in a desert.
I'd have called her "Becky 2: Electric Boogaloo!"
This is the closest I've seen Hasbro to just give up. My guess is they saw how saturated the market was with Arcee. (She's quickly passing Soundwave and approach Bee and OP levels of remolds.) Even if they wanted to they couldn't engineer her differently from Earthrise or the Bumblebee movie. So they decided to steer into the skid. They are banking that once you have the other character in MPM form, you'll come back to Arcee to complete the set. (Jokes on them. Bionicle broke me of that habit back in 2006!) I'm happy subbing which ever Arcee I like. And there are a lot of them. Better luck next time, which will probably be the next toyline in 5 months.
Yeah but that's not dumb enough. I was going for maximum Dumb.
With the Rate we are getting Arcees yeah I expect another one in a few months.
Electric Beckaloo
It's great to have a PerspectiveEnd video to watch after work
Isn't that most Wednesday's, Friday's, and Sundays?
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah but I work nights Sunday
This SS86 Arcee is pretty cool. Like how this is retooled from the Generations Thrilling 30 Arcee. I honestly like this shade of pink. But yeah, more weapons would have been nice. Like the pink gun and rifle from the Masterpiece Arcee.
Also what would have been cool is her Red shades from the movie.
Personally, I'm just considering driving out the pin of the ER Arcee and just turning her into a "Red" figure with an upgrade kit. I always find the massive backpack a lot of G1 inspired Arcee figs have, a massive distraction for me.
Y'know what could be better? If Hasbro ever made Nightbird out of the ER Arcee mold and include all weapons from the previous Nightbird Deluxes 😂🤣
You can take half the backpack off, which looks pretty good. Arcee always has shoulder kibble
That's what I did to her my self, you can see that in this video during the Becky Becca Becky Rebecca Rebecca Rebecca, scene.
Nice name
The Earthrise Arcee is without a doubt an awful, terrible, absolutely wretched Transformer that isn't even worth taking out or robot mode, but on the flip side I will always stand my ground that she is honestly the best Arcee action figure we've gotten. If you take off the backpack and replace it with your decorative wings of choosing she really is fantastic as just a poseable representation of the character. The fact you can have her posed beside her car mode is actually fun choice of display.
It sucks that she's a god-awful Transformer, but it's at least nice that she's a really good action figure.
Generations arcee is thicker then a bowl of oatmeal
That is the turn of phrase most apt yes.
Rebecca 2: Rebecctric Boogaloo.
I'm glad you played with Electric Boogaloo a bit. Most people are just doing that bit straight.
Fun fact the first arcee toy was a very very slight retool transmetal 2 blackarachnia. Why was it slightly remolded? We’ll become the og transmetal 2 blackarachnia had a rather interesting gimmick.
I think this sounds familiar but my memory isn't jogging right.
Hastak’s price gouging since siege has been really grinding my gears. Why the fuck are they not only charging double the price for figures of the same quality and size as thrilling 30s for double the price, and rereleasing old figures for the same price as now. Inflation has not halved the value of the Canadian, let alone American dollar, so how are they justifying these prices? Like setting the new benchmark back in siege should have been kept for like a decade before the next price hike. I spent 37 CAD on speedia Blurr the other day, and 45 on Buzzsaw. What happened to the days of deluxes costing 20 CAD and that was it? 30 CAD for 20 CAD TR deluxes my ass. This is ridiculous.
InFlAtIoN!
So they say, but they’re seriously risking pricing out a big hunk of their customers…
@@BlitzkriegOmega
The portion of customers that get priced out need to do a better job choosing hobbies they can afford.
Inflation is a real thing, no matter how much we don’t like it, and the increased costs of materials, operations, labor, marketing, and distribution has to eventually trickle down to the consumer.
@@JROD082384 Inflation is real, but the cost of everything not just Transformers is being gouged significantly higher than inflation. I really notice this working in a Starbucks kiosk for only like 10 months, because every few months they raise the prices again without even letting us know. We find out when customers complain, and then buy it anyway because they are addicted to sugar or caffeine. In this period of 10 months the prices of almost everything we sell went from good or a little high, to just ok or really bad.
@@JROD082384 There's a difference between actual inflation (which tends to be less than 3% a year) and "Using a global crisis to gouge your customer base".
Yes, the Pandemic caused a big inflationary surge, which should have only accounted for maybe a 10% rise in prices, but it was paired up with Big Businesses gaining an excuse to pump up the price of basically everything by 30% or more because they *can*.
♪ The Transformers / toys you can't afford / the Transformers / all that you can hoard / Toy execs laugh while draining out / every last penny from your bank account ... ♫
why am I awake rn? Can't wait for mine to come from amazon
Haha same man. The being awake part
Get some rest man, also I'm sure you will like it. It's a fine figure.
I’m shocked that the nicce came out better than any generations arcce post 2014, and it’s really shocking because we know the intentions of nicce
I mean Nicee is basically just the Generations arcee in sluttier styles.
even more funny the older one also came with a comic book along with the extra weapons
This is true!
I never saw the old one in stores, so I'm tempted to get this one and give her Laser Prime's sword.
Also, I think they should've gone further with beefing up her forearms so they could add wrist swivels
I mean like I said you can still buy the old one on BBTS but if you want to find it in person, this is a fine choice.
It's like you combined the Ercee and thrilling 30 arcee to make something in the middle of quality
I feel like there's nothing on this that's 1% as bad as the ERcee.
I’m scared to even look at an a g1 arcee because I get flashbacks to the dumpster fire that is earthrise arcee
This is muuuuuuuuch better than that. It's a decent figure, it's just superfluous if you already have the generations.
I already have a Takara Arcee so this is a pretty easy skip. If I ever see it on clearance I might buy one to display them in different modes but if I can’t then I won’t lose any sleep over it.
Yeah, that wouldn't be a bad idea.
I cee, you cee, we all see 'dem cee puns.
(*Looks over to shelf where Arcee stands with a blue robot (& some other robots, with a big green one nearby)*)
I'm not gonna say it.
I don't know why it's so easy to play with Arcees name. But literally every cee out there From Bumblecee to Ceeberverse works.
It’s like if a new arcee come out and it isn’t a bike it’s going to be a shellformer
And even then the bikes might be Shellformers.
in conclusion, figure of the century ercee wins again baybeee long live the hoverboard
... Wut?
id say now that the ss86 arcee is so discounted on amazon, that one is probably the better choice now considering its practically a core class in price
That is impressive, and it's a fine option. No reason not to go with it.
Just another shelf warmer Arcee.
It might do well, it's not a bad figure just kind of a Superfluous one.
Agreed on the Arcee assessment. Ab joint QC is apparently a gamble, as I definitely needed to put some floor polish in there to keep the pelvis from disengaging when ... anything was moved. However, she can do an excellent "hunched over with hands clawing in front of her in order to scare children" pose now.
I didn't think of making her do the crab walk. Missed opportunity.
Oh no, her waist hinge can make her become Slenderman height!
And with that head hinge forward, she really does seem to be some kind of cryptid.
Another thing in favor of the 86 is that if you live somewhere where BBTS shipping is a lot (Like me in Hawaii where it's $15 to ship anything from bbts) finding it in stores will be saving a pretty penny for a nearly identical experience. That extra $15 can easily go towards toyhaxing or even an upgrade kit.
Interesting. Yeah, I didn't even realize that would be a problem. And I guess that's a fine place for this figure to exist. It's a cheap alternative to the thing it's almost identical too.
I dunno. I need all my figures to match my G1 memory, so accuracy to the cartoon trumps all for me. I'll be getting it.
I totally understand why people feel that way. Nothing wrong with it, if you understand why you are making those decisions.
The car mode is an improvement, screen-accurate or not. The sides on the old version are so obviously the robot legs.
I don't see it as particularly obvious my self. Like yes you can tell what part they are, but you can do that with most characters.
Like Optimus's bed is clearly made out of his legs, but I don't think in practice they are obviously legs.
@@PerspectiveEnd I say that because they’re so human-shaped
Funny I just got mine last night and of course your review follows I swear this has happened 2 or 3 times now.
I mean it does kind of release around the country at the same time.
when learned about the Studio Series version was remade from the Thrilling 30 and that BigBadToy Store had the latter still instate I went for the old one. Studio's may have ankle tilt but Thrilling 30 has the ability to cross their legs and a lager accessory count.
Huh, the crossing leg thing is not something I thought of till you mentioned it.
Amazon likes making older figures way more expensive
Yeah, that's why I don't use them for old stuff.
Im glad I got the Generations version.
If you only got this one, I don't think you'd be mad.
Rebecca has returned with a mighty vengeance
Here to make everyone pay.
You can actually have the figure and the car if you remove the two screws on her back
But the chest would be missing or the front of the car would be missing depending on which you pull off to make one more complete.
@@PerspectiveEnd yea unless you do modifications or just glue it and cut it off and have her headless
Glad I splurged for the takara generations fig, but if I didn't I'd be very happy with 86
As did I.
I think the Bumblebee movie designs are better than Michael Bay designs
Agreed!
my generations hands broke off
That sucks, but I do see how that could happen.
I can't wait for Rebecca 3, rise of the dark Becca
ERcee is already in this list.
I still don't know wether to spend money on the 86 or not but this does help my deliberations good review and comparison!
It's a good figure either way, it's just superfluous if you already have the other.
The muted shade of pink is a letdown and she only has one gun. Only if the T30 one had a waist swivel and ankle tilts
I get what they were going for with the pink, but it is still boring, and the gun is so lame, straight copy stolen from the other figure and only one of them.
@@PerspectiveEnd exactly
Revenge of Rebecca 2 electric Boogaloo Rebecca takes Manhattan
Manhattan Strikes back, but Rebecca Returns, so it's Rebeccas Vengence.
Great job! The (Takara) Generations Arcee still nails the sexy fembot look without the porno vibe that has creeped into everything these days.
It was Thicc before Thicc was Sexy.
"Rebecca 2 the Rebeccaning" 🤣
Glad you enjoyed that.
Got newage arcee in hand and she’s epic.
That's already out.
@@PerspectiveEnd bruh it’s insane. Last month I believe was prime and cyclonus along with their repaints. Just now releasing is arcee and grimlock with their repaints. Finally they’ve announced and already have had people review/show off Jetfire and inferno.
Wheeljack: Optimus needs you to find the difference between this Arcee and this Arcee.
Hot Rod: They're the same Arcee.
Hey! Someone who finally got the Thumbnail joke. Lot of people seemed to have been confused by that.
@@PerspectiveEnd I don't even watch The Office but I got that right away. Quality meme.
noted, get the generations off bbts lol
return of rebecca tho did not see that comin, love the video!
I was worried I telegraphed it a bit hard with that Last Short I made.
And Either of these is good. Again they are almost identical.
@@PerspectiveEnd I like the brighter pink of the t30 and even if arcee doesn't use swords or the dildo gun, that's more for the same price, I'm sure I can find some figures to pawn em off on lol
I was really confused when this was first announced because people were all over the place with declaring what it was and wasn't, your video did a great job breaking down what was basically the same and what was new
I got mine yesterday, in the UK - wasn't even expecting her to be released here yet! - and... it has QC issues. One of her arms constantly pops off at the elbow :/
Really? I would have thought it was the shoulder. I didn't even realize it could come off there at all, kind of though it was pinned.
Sorry to hear about yours.
How can it possibly be easier to make a more accurate, better engineered toy of AOE Galvatron than G1 Arcee? I don't understand
Yeah, I don't get why this seems to be so hard.
I am a little tempted to get this at some point, but seeing as how I do have the Generations Arcee with the Platinum deco, I'm in no rush to get one at the minute
Yeah, sounds like this will only disappoint if you do. It's still not bad, it's just that's a much prettier figure.
7:05am in the morning haven't had my coffee yet -w-
You are like the Third Person in a row to tell me what time it is. Is there some joke I'm not clued in on?
@@PerspectiveEnd you posted your video early
So in other words, just stick with the Generations Thrilling 30's one since I already have it huh? GOT IT.
Pretty much yeah, if you don't this is fine.
The most interesting thing about this figure is that they’re retooling a figure this old, to the point of using the same parts, at normal retail. I can think of them doing that for repaints a few times like the armada beasts(technically retools because they added minicon pegs, shut up), but never like this
Yeah, they are working off a SHOCKINGLY old mold.
The original T30 Arcee never came out in New Zealand, but I grabbed her and Chromia (the retool of Prime Arcee) of BBTS back when their international shipping was actually cheaper than buying my own Transformers factory, so I think I'll stick with that one. Probably would have grabbed this one in a world where the internet didn't exist though assuming we ever start getting new waves again.
Yeah, that's understandable. I didn't really factor in shipping to other parts of the world.
well with how similar it is to the generations figure might as well repaint it into nightbird already
I mean they already did that with the Generations figure.
the wfc arcee go in the garbage with wheelie and daniel XD
100% Agreed. Though she should have been there a while ago.
@@PerspectiveEnd true
Wish it couldve been a new mold as for how good the old figure is, its still a big shellformer and they couldve made a better effort to reduce the backpack
It's new ish, but yes a fully new one would have been nice.
awe-inspiring
Thank you!
If you are not from america and do not have a generations arcee I this is good.
Does BBTS not Ship to other countries/
I just made an account on bbts and the shipping rate is between 8 to 28 dollars
Finally er arcee can Finally leave the shelf
This is a stellar replacement for that.
it was better than I expected, I thought it was going to be a recolored earthrise figure
I'm glad it wasn't. This is so much better than that would have been, however it is still kind of pointless.
I'm planning to wait for the INEVITABLE Nightbird repaint. The siege one was just bad to me.
I mean we will see about it, they aren't opposed to doing retools of this, but the Last Nightbird was just in Siege.
Takara just released a Masterpiece Shadow Nightbird. It uses the masterpiece Arcee mold, so we will just have to wait and see.
Also the fact that they had the option to include her screen accurate red visor shown in the 86 movie like the one included with hot rods 86 figure and they just decided it wasn’t worth the effort :/
Yeah, that's some real bullshit right there.
One thing they shouldve done is give it the same feature as hot rod aka flip out shades
100% Agreed.
You get a waist swivel, but a worse robot mode, car mode and transformation.
A side grade at best.
Have a like
There's an Ab Crunch too.
And thank you!
My 2nd video of yours I saw was the WTB Arcee, I'm wondering where this would be on that list?
That's the thing it's so hard to say. All the Arcees try to be so different typically it's hard to rate them, if you remember I made it a tie last time.
So I'd say this is right there with the Gencee, just a little behind it.
Can't wait for when ever my target stocks motormaster
Edit: I think I'll just get him from Amazon
Amazon is a solid option.
Yeah this is the best mainline arcee. The ER had a decent robot mode but that’s about it, the generations one is fine but has a lot of limitations and honestly the hips look bad. This one looks better, poses better, I like the colors better, the transformation is more fun and involved, and overall it feels like the most definitive version of the character we’ve gotten in the mainline. I was skeptical when they first revealed her but she has easily taken the spot of definitive arcee on the shelf, and it makes me SUPER excited for ironhide.
It's a good figure for sure. It's just a little bit Superfluous when it's not different enough to the Gencee, but it's not the same enough to just be a Rerelease.
I have a figure I want to return that I bought on amazon, I have the box and everything that came inside, do I need to put the strings that hold the figure in place back on?
Nah. You just need to put it in a regular brown box that you can seal up, otherwise the UPS store you return it to will charge you for a box, and I've seen it be like 8 bucks for a box there.
@@PerspectiveEnd OK thank you 😊
*At **3:12** minor misspelling of "wrists".*
God damn it. I read that like 5 times, but my eyes kept Glossing over that.
I was thinking of getting this figure but I’ve just decided to have Legacy be my Arcee. Also Sludge rules, Motormaster rules, and IDW Blurr is better than 86.
Sludge is soo good isn't he!
Also Legacy can't be your Arcee, because they just aren't the same character. Primecee is blatantly supposed to be Chromia.
I do not care! I prefer Prime Arcee to G1!
I have 86 arcee and if I even breath on it wrong it falls over
Really? Is it the legs or feet that are too loose?
@@PerspectiveEnd nope none of its loose they are actually quite tight it's just because it's super top heavy
That's weird, cause mine doesn't have trouble standing.
@@PerspectiveEnd the only thing that's loose on it is the right thigh swivel
I actually like the colors
Well then you can rest assured you will probably like this.
Apparently the rising prices are due to rising labor costs in china or Vietnam, so they have to charge more but can’t make figures better without raising the cost even more.
See that makes more sense than trying to claim inflation.
I got the generations one but kinda want all the Studios 86 figures except some of the core class figures like Ratchet
Well the good news is if you have the Generations one you already have the 86 one for all intents and purposes.
I think the bumblebee movie arcee is better than the Generation 1 design
I get why you'd feel that way.
Oooo Jobby burn
Is that a burn or just the way Jobby actually is.
Velocitron 500 has landed in Australia. Was lucky enough to be able to get the 2 figures I really wanted for my Shattered Glass collection: Hauler (SG Grapple) and Burn Out (SG Skids). Was also hoping for Clampdown however he and Cosmos had completely sold out before I arrived (the day they were stocked). There was 1 Burn Out, 1 Road Rocket, 2 Blurrs, 2 Haulers, 2 Overrides and 6 Scourges. Gotta love that distribution. Didn't buy Scourge as I have him on Pre Order for only $60 AUD thanks to a fluff up from EB Games.I'm glad I was able to get the ones I wanted at least.
I mean that sound about the same as it is here in the US, just Slightly later. I mean I only found that stuff like LAST week. So it's not even that much slower.
Glad you found the stuff you wanted.
Takara Arcee - Takarcee
Thew reference 🤣
It wasn't intended as one. I just did it, and then in the editing process, I realized what I'd done.
I honestly thimk the backpack is better than T30 - it IS a tiny bit longer, but significantly narrower, to show less in a mostly frontal robot mode display. Overall, though, I mostly concur - she's a minor improvement on T30 at most, and the Takara version is an even closer race. I don't regret getting her as well, but probably won't buy another version at this point unless they branch out to, like, the Terminator crossover comic's earth mode for her, and not being a big comics fan even that is iffy..
I don't find it to be a tiny bit longer, More significantly longer, but yes it is a bit slimmer.
This isn't a bad figure, I just think it's a bit superfluous.
I did really like her Design in Vs the Terminator.
does any know the name of the arcee he compared it to i tried to find it i couldn't
So........ According to the early drafts of transformers the movie at tfnation there was some unique things like
1: there was an autobot snake train boi,
2: 2 other autobots one of them looking like a steam punk bot,
3: the sweeps were supposed to have mono eyes and were black
4: kup was supposed to an autobot tank veteran named tanker
(i need a toy of this design)
5: wheeljack was supposed to be in the main cast
6: kranix was supposed to fight the sharkticon then get eaten..... tbh thats a way to go out
7: the quintissons did not look like eggs
8: ultra magnus looked like a more red and blue version of orion pax with spikes
9: instead of the matrix it was supposed to be rhe spirit of optimus and some crap alongside the spirit of megs
10: ok this was not part of the early drafts at tfnation but according to one of the writers said that skylynx and predaking were supposed to be in the movie but the predacons were going to be autobots and skylynx was going to be a decepticon
11: the sharkticons had peach lips
12: the last and weird one of them all remember when i said wheeljack was going to be part of the original cast............ Well he was going to be sexist to arcee....... say what now!? and he was going to be one of arcee's love intrests WHAT IS GOING ON?!? and he apologizes to arcee on being sexist in the end...... thats his arc this entire movie realizing girl power.........WAT!
13: you know the corination starscream design??? Well the seeker trio all original were gonna have that design except the shoulder pads and cape were in their colour scheme
14: a junkion design looked like if a german soldier became a biker and was named scrapo
15: galvatron was in his original toy colour scheme before changing to just purple
I saw a lot of that, it looks like good silly fun, though I'm glad with the movie we got.
@@PerspectiveEnd and also blurr magnus and the new guy were just gonna be flat out dead........... Yeah just dead no repair scene they were just dead
@@PerspectiveEnd i swear the arcee x wheeljack thing is some type of tfp ship or some sh*t
To be honest i had no clue the 86 arcee was anything other than a repaint of the earthrise arcee. That mold being so garbage i ignored the 86 version. I have the generations takara version so i'll honestly stick with it.
Yeah. I can say that at least I'm glad that it's not the ER figure again.
Great review PerspectiveEnd!!! I can forgive the flaws of this figure, since I am just happy to have a more G1 accurate Arcee figure then what we got with Earthrise/Kingdom. lol Keep on being amazing.
Yeah, it's not a bad figure at all, it's quite good. I just find it a little superfluous in the face of what's come before it.
@@PerspectiveEnd I just hope that future SS86 figures that are repaints/retools turn out fantastic and not duds. lol
Aside for the ankle pivot.... The Legends/Generation one is still better. Better accessories, better transformation
100% agreed, thought it's not like a slaughter or anything.
I think if the did what they did to 86 hotrod and have a flip out red visor and a second pistol or maybe a rifle this arcee might feel a bit better or more on par with generations.
Yeah this really should have had that, but then they'd have to retool the head more than just making it wider for some reason.
I picked up his figure yesterday and she's... odd? She's better than the ER one, that's for sure. As I don't have the Generations one, I can't say anything about that figure so I can only compare her to the ER and LegArcee, despite the latter being a different design. I do much prefer the LegArcee, but the 86 one is okay for a G1 version
Interesting, because a lot of people really hate the Legacee one.
I would get the generations arcee. But bbts and i have problems. They take out the money later than i thought. So im wary about that if i buy soemthing from them
I've never had a problem with their billing.
Another Arcee, another reminder how good the Animated figure was. Maybe this figure will speak to me when I see it in person like Kickback did but I don't think I have any reason to get this. And it's sad I can't recommend the Animated as easy because the price on ebay now is absolutely ridiculous. So...Yeah I'm gonna have to go with..Teacher Becky? Aunt Becky? I can't think of anything better than that
Which one is Teacher/Aunt Becky?
@@PerspectiveEnd Animated, both because she was a teacher, and aunt is just a reference to that Rattrap line in Beast Wars lol
Let the hate begin, why is it never good enough smh
What do you mean? This figure is superfluous, but it's fine. It's not bad, I say as much. Just if you have the Generations figure it's the same thing.
@@PerspectiveEnd if it ain’t a masterpiece then it ain’t good enough and even the masterpiece had it’s issues actually when has there ever been a good Arcee .
This is exactly why I don’t fret over missing a figure. They’re just going to re-release it, if not a little changed and at worse it’s a downgrade but it’s still a good way to beat the system
I mean not always, but often enough yeah.
Duller than I'd hoped, but to be expected from a pre-modern mold, decent, but reused parts really makes the price insulting, as you said
Deluxes used to be the most accessible
Yeah it's pretty egregious what they've done here just using the same figure again, but making it slightly worse.
I just pre-ordered eighty ceex from Best Buy with some Best Buy cash I needed to spend before expiring. However, I already have Tak-Arcee (and Nightbird), which I bought on ebay for almost commander class pricing because I wanted an Arcee that was fun to transform as well as accurate. But I never opened it because it was expensive. Now that this eighty ceex is out, more accessible, slightly more accurate, and definitely less sexualized, I might consider parting with Tak-Arcee as long as I can make equivalent money back.
That's a little unfortunate. I mean I see why you'd do that. But to never engage with it till you got rid of it. Just feels like a shame.
Is the fin supposed to be a separate piece in the box? I don't have one.
I don't remember it coming separate, but it might have, or it might have just fallen out and gotten lost. If it came separate it would just be in the accessory baggy.
@@PerspectiveEnd no baggie, gun was strapped next to her. Got it on clearance for $11, but Best Buy is out now. Ugh. My first Tarantulas from them was missing part of a insect leg. At least I could exchange that.
This my friend Becky
Bitchy Rebecca isn't our friend she just won't leave.
Where is my 86 Ultra Magnus that actually transform into an earthling trailer truck and not an half engineered Picasso sculpture on wheels???
At least unlike Starscream, he hasn't wasted his chance, so here's to hoping he gets redeemed here. Question is will he be a Commander-class coz he STILL needs to have the white Optimus mode he never had at all in the cartoon, or be a Leader that's a mini-MP, i.e. no inner cab robot.
Well I didn't buy that, so you won't see that review from me most likely.
Oh, I legit thought this was just a kingdom repaint. Kinda surprised it's a gen rework. I definitely prefer the melon smashing thighs on the old, but the new non human waist makes me feel way less uncomfortable.
Truly she once had a Pair of Thighs to Surpass Metal Gear.
Its better than earthrise. Three arcee's back to back
Literally anything is better though.
Question of the day: which is better stuifoseries arcee or generations arcee
Probably the Generations figure by a slight amount because it's got a better transformation.
@@PerspectiveEnd agreed
So uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh any opinion of SS hot Rod / crosshairs or any of the new masterpieces?
I think the new Studio Series hotrod looks like a Studio Series figure. I've got no real insights beyond that. It's ugly, looks nothing like the character I like.
But it's probably exactly what movie fans want. The Crosshairs looks like it was REALLY badly executed. Like they tried but the idea they had was crap.
Some customizer should buy this just to swap the lower legs (below the knee) and give the Generations an ankle tilt
I don't know that that's possible, but it would be interesting to see.
@@PerspectiveEnd yea