Really cannot wait for the Sarah Boone trial....not only because of the anticipations about her antics, but because justice for Jorge and his family is LONG OVERDUE!!!
@@OHiYoCHIC Agreed which is terrifying tbh!!! They need to demand a venue & judge change to protect Karens rights! And IF the feds know for fact she's innocent REALLY hope they fork over the proof! This BS's gone on WAY too long & caused SO many other probs for all involved!
@@sarahbridget84 I know, and I agree. It’s just unbelievable that this whole situation has happened. I think the investigation was shoddy enough for the charges to have never been brought. It’s unbelievable that the CW stands behind this investigation and was willing to go to trial not only once, but twice! If I were a juror I wouldn’t have been able to even get past that, because I don’t understand how you don’t see reasonable doubt from the word go.
Thank you, Peter! The timestamps are great. I’m hoping the FBI puts an end to this ridiculous case before retrial. I’m interested in any case you cover.
Can I just say I admire you as a person as well as an attorney. I agree w/ the comment someone wrote, that you should be a teacher. Although the more I listen to you.... we need you in politics. We need people with morals, and people that stand up for what is right. Blessings to you and your team and family.
LOVEEEEE Emily D. Baker & Law Nerds❤️🔥 Bounced between BOTH y'all channels during this channel during the ENTIRE TRIAL & will watch ALLLLL y'all post about it!!
Take everything a Prosecutor, Investigator or an Officer says with a grain of salt. I just sat and listened to an Investigator LIE and cover up the fact that “ accusations were filed in retaliation “ against my son, because a judge gave him visitation rights to his children. He was paying child support, obeyed the TRO, and had insurance coverage on them. In retaliation, the mother of his ex, and her sister went and filed false charges. No investigation was done and they all left out very important testimony. My son got 21 years, reduced to 5. I hate the INjustice system. It is so corrupt. The investigator lied, and said that the complaint from his ex was not sent to her until June , but, what she didnt tell them was that the reason a complaint was filed was the very tuesday, after the thursday week before that my son got visitation awarded to him.
It’s ridiculous. Why they would make that woman suffer like that when we know we are wasting taxpayer money at the same time as beyond me I don’t care for the judge at all.❣️
How about how the victims feel are suffering. KR could have easily avoided this. NOT DRINK DRIVE. i get so frustrated when I hear her suffering. Mrs OKeefe has lost a child 2 for that matter
Please cover Black Swan case! So much going on and all the legal jargon makes it hard to keep up. Many issues like self defense and domestic violence. Need your recaps Peter!
I think the January 27th trial date is just right that way they can do all their appeals and all the other paperwork so when that day comes they can either go for it or dismiss it
@mandystrong8196 😆😆😆 ok bud. I suggest you seek mental help cause clearly you cant see reasonable proof that theres no way she couldve done it.....or is the fbi wrong in their accident reconstruction? I feel bad for you.
@@luisaramirez7502 remember the chat group text saying make sure you say the guy never went into the house. Do you remember the poor investigation? Do you remember to proctor saying she was already guilty without even investigating it properly? Albert never came out of his housewives he hiding in his house because he had blood on marks on him are you serious? You never listen to the whole trial. There was so much reasonable doubt on the menu. You didn’t know what to choose.
Did you hear about the Springfield officer who recently got arrested for murdering a black woman who called him because she believes she had a prowler. While his video cam was off, his partners was not. Instantly, after reviewing the body cam, he was removed from the police squad and arrested for murder. This is a really interesting case.
I came late to this today. But I think this date makes sense for re trail. Possibly more can come out. With FBI and possibly Proctor cases will be done. Which also can help break CW case.
@@TriciaMulvaney Albert’s had nothing to do with this and FBI already investigated. No 30 year police veteran would throw a body in his yard. Are you that brainwashed?
That family has alot involvement here. Karen didn't go in that house party because of how those people are.. I don't blame her. They think they are so high up the scale that no can touch them. Well in time it will come out. Karen Read has not one thing to do with any of John's death. Cover up it is.
She probably has no intention of reaching out to the jurors. It will go through the appeals process ( the judge is allowing time for that ). She chose 8/9 for each side to argue their case regarding jurors verdicts or lack there of. Depending on who she sides with , be it defense or prosecution, the other side will appeal. Karen can’t be retried while an appeal is in progress. The judge chose a retry date in the future to allow for appeal process and for the attorneys to prepare for the new trial.
The bottom line about Baldwin is you flat out never point a gun at someone. My dad was a cop and he always stated that you can think a gun is empty but never assume that.
I honestly can’t stand judge bev but she is totally in with Morrissey and the DAs office totally she knows she didn’t hit John O’Keefe. She knows the truth.
@@mandystrong8196 are you drunk? I hope not because there’s obviously something wrong with you. It was 12 to 0 and two verdict and no one could find her guilty on manslaughter because she never hit him says all the medical in the other experts.
I thought this video was playing at faster speed until someone in the live chat pointed it out. I guess it's playing at normal speed. I gotta slow it down to keep up with you 😎 I really hope his family finds out what happened and get some closure! If karen is innocent, and I think she is, I hope everything gets better for her!
I have some different predictions. Between pretrial, the trial, the FBI investigation & evidence of the McAlberts’ culpability it’s become very clear that the CW’s goals for this case are completely different than any normal case. One of the CW’s goals is to keep this going as long as possible so they can deflect suspicions of corruption. To do anything less than everything is to admit to the coverup/malicious prosecution. A second goal is that, as Andrea Burkhart says, “the process is the punishment.” The CW knows Karen is innocent and they know they’ll never get a guilty verdict. But they (this one includes Bev) are looking for revenge against Karen bc she refused to play nice, accept a plea, & go quietly off into the sunset. They will drag every bit of this out to prolong her misery & run up her legal bills. The process is the punishment. Lally won’t change his strategy one bit. HIS goal is to maximize confusion & obfuscation bc it’s the only way to avoid an NG verdict across the board. So: 1. If Bev rules to dismiss charges 1&3, Lally will absolutely appeal. 2. Lally will call every single prior witness and ask each every single irrelevant question again - the snow, the girls basketball, everyone’s drink orders, etc. (if Bev allows - note that she’s virtually never curbed Lally on any topic). 3. Even if Bev dismisses 1&3, Lally won’t give up on the Aruba thing or anything else that goes to motive.
This is a load of bull. The Albert’s had nothing to do with this. You had more culpability. A 30 year a police veteran would NOT throw a body in his front yard. Stop with your crazy. This woman was seen right where his body was found. She killed that man..I HATE YOU…she used a 7000 pound weapon to do it..motive and means..get out her colon.
They want Karen Read to bleed, no matter what the charges, verdict or costs. They are going to ruin her life for every day that they can possibly stretch it and they will gloat and pat themselves on the back while doing it, all the while mocking her leaky balloon knot, just not via phone this time. It's just tax payer money, why tf would they care? They could catch flack from higher up, but their best buddy DA was just reelected so they have no care in the world.
@@valhallaw lol what a load of crap..you think the CW would spend money if they think someone is innocent..? you really are up her rear aren’t you..yikes.
They need to throw this case out. That Judge is not understanding the truth of this whole case. If she cant figure everything out like we can, or we are sure this was a setup. To put Karen R on the map to cover up what really happened in that home... Karen Read has Nonething to do with any of this. ❤
@@debijo5288 Did u watch any of the pre-trial hearings?! This case shoulda been thrown out just for the "missing" (or most likely purposely erased) 40+ min's of sallyport video alone that'd expose exactly wtf ALL those (recused + corrupt) cops were doing to Karen"s tail light for that whole time! This case, that biased af judge (the Alberts kids call "Aunty Bev"!) & Norfolk County DA = the biggest, grossest dumpster🔥mess I've EVER seen! And living in MA I've unfortunately seen A LOT of unjust BS!!! This is just SO bad tho. I also 100% think Lally purposely dragged the trial out to drain Karens funds so she couldnt afford effective counsel & also to weed out jurors who seemed sympathetic to her. The jury had to leave their notebooks at court each day & I heard nothing re: them being locked up so no 1 could see what they were writing!!! What a mess
@@007nadineL If u watched any pretrial hearings it WAS bev who blocked tons of exculpatory evidence & allowed ALL lally's BS to go unpunished! It's also quite OBV the judge who holds the power to throw the case out which she OBV shoulda done given the 40+ "missing" min.'s of sallyport video alone given the fact that woulda exposed exactly what all those compromised & recused cops did to & with Karens tail light!
debijo5288. Hmmmm. Verbalizing in writing KR has Nothing to do with any of this case is someone who may have blinders on imo! Pretty opinionated without facts to back up statement and not aware of the total case imo. No matter how you feel about the judge….she knows much more than you or anyone of us know.
Man, I had jury duty today and it was awful. Three hours in a court room, two different cases pulled for jury. I was dismissed and I'm glad. But I learned I don't have the personality for a jury or courtroom. It is so slow and so boring and technical.
Their alleged not guilty 'agreement' was also 'soft' agreements. There was no verdct which is why the foreperson didn't check the box and sign the form. She must be retried as she's guilty of the most serious charge.
Well, police dogs are trained to attack the arm --- the right arm --- the (usual) weapon arm? Correct? That's how they take out the biggest treat in an evolving situation.
Thank you and your dad for the term Pariah. I used that term in my video that dropped today on my channel Write with Mykela. If you're curious, the episode is S3 2 Ep 15. I would post the link for you, but I didn't think that would be politically correct. I did give you credit on my video. Thanks for all you do.
She hasn't even heard the arguments yet she can't just dismiss it that's not legal. Not even all jurors came forward. Jurors get influenced by what they hear after the fact it's hard to just decide that is an acceptable reason to dismiss charges
23:52 i never had doubt that Baldwin had no "intention" of hurting anyone....however as you said Baldwin has been working with firearms for a very long time, his father was a shooting coach, he has been acting for what 40+ years and has worked with many armourers and weapons experts over those years so he definitely knows about gun safety, and I think that no matter what he should've checked the weapon.....however if LE struggled to tell the difference between the live rounds and blank and dummy rounds then Baldwin would probably not have been able to tell them apart. In all reality Hannah was the last line of safety and as the "expert" employed on set she was the one who should've been able to tell the rounds apart and removed and safely locked away any even slightly suspicious rounds so they could not have been loaded.....saying that though Baldwin also knows NOT to point the firearm towards anything he did not intend to shoot
Except that is literally the JOB of an ACTOR- to point prop guns at people & shoot prop guns at people... you have literally have film after film of actors legit holding guns to eachothers HEADS&PULLING the triggers because THAT IS WHAT ACTING IS. It is not valid or reasonable to judge an actions in a vacuum- beliefs& actions are not a blanket one size fits all- situations matter& DIFFERENT SITUATIONS call for different analyses given the context. Being an actor is NOT the same as some random guy at his home just beleiving or being told that a gun is unloaded &pointing it as his friend as there is simply no comparable situation which includes/makes it reasonable/makes it not wreckless for a regular citizen to be pointing guns at people AT ALL- that doesnt mean that actors should treat it as a prop without question, or not check it themselves, or that the industry shouldnt consider how to better safety standards, it simply means that acting involves a different set of reasonable actions &beliefs & its not going to work to simply transfer over regular intuitions& practices from a regular gunowner/user context. I have a serious problem with people using the kind of "you never point a gun at someone" rationale here- it doesnt apply to actors- actors point guns at people, its CALLED ACTING, its their job, they are literally playing a role on a film that involves doing this, & also involves a reasonable basis for thinking it is a safe prop. For reference consider another job that involves clearly diff reasonable acts/beleifs- like a police officer- everyday we recognize that certain acts which would automatic be wreckless or crimes by citizens have to be judged differnt considering what is reasonable for police to do & beleive in context-im not talking about justifed instants of force here(technically if force was justifed by officers than it would usually, maybe not always in exact same ways every situation, but still usually also be justifed by citizens under self defense laws) i'm talking about equivalent acts & mistakes judged differntly given the reasonable beliefs of police... for ex: idk say police enter a home on basis of a 911 call/warrant/etc, but theyre actually at wrong address, so technically they have no legal justification to go into THAT SPECIFIC HOME, & say homeowner is hurt or dies bc they thought burglars were breaking in & grabbed a gun or w.e...well this happens every single day, police arent charged with breaking & entering nor murder nor manslaughter nor wreckless etc when they enter the wrong house & even cause deaths bc of this mistake(at best a civil lawsuit is made...as too happened with Baldwin), since police officers jobs entail going into homes & their belief at the time they enter this wrong address(say, they beleive its address of a violent deadly battery on DV call, or beleive theyre enacting a warrent on dangerous criminals with numerous guns/drugs etc) informs their behavior in the situation- obviously if police realize theyre at the wrong home & still shoot the homeowner who grabbed their gun than this would become questionable to outright criminal(if it could be proven they realized this) bc the homeowner is acting reasonably from their point of view, but the police are acting on the assumption that this person is a dangerous criminal or abuser & thus when they see the gun we accept that they shoot reasonably on the basis of their own beleifs at the time, & we accept that those beliefs WERE REASONABLE for them EVEN though we know its the wrong house. There is zero comparible situation where a citizen could enter someones home with a weapon, see the homeowner holding a weapon & be justifed to shoot them, there simply is no comparible context. There is no comparible context of actors who use prop guns& shoot them at other actors, there is no reasonable basis or belief of gun owners behaving in the same way as actors on a movie set who reasonably beleive the gun is a prop. There are different reasonable assumptions& actions in different contexts- and ACTING is a context where a belief in the gun being a prop is reasonable & the action of pointing the guns at people is not only reasonable/not a matter of wrecklessness by defintion but is LITERALLY their job. Im a fairly big believer in genuine mistakes & so EVEN in a context of a regular citizen thinking a gun is unloaded I could still see being sympathetic to them in certain instants- but it is still always going to involve atleast some level of wrecklessness to causually be pointing & waving around a gun even if you think its not loaded- which just isnt remotley the same case for an actor on a movie set.
@ar4203 yes acting is his job but as I said he is well versed in firearm safety, he wasn't meant to be pointing the weapon at someone at that time, and when he was supposed to be pointing at someone there are extra safety precautions taken. I could understand someone playing the they didn't know card if they are new to acting and new to working with firearms but Baldwin himself claims to be an "expert" and as I said his father was a shooting coach AND having worked with many many armourers and varying weapons over his 40+ year career in acting he has been trained and reminded over and over. Like I said I don't think he ever had intention and I think he probably had a lapse in judgement and trusted Hannah. And as I have said Hannah really was the last line of defense in this case, SHE was the one majorly neglectful, SHE was the one who failed to remove and lock up any suspicious rounds or rounds she wasn't sure about, SHE told Baldwin it was "cold" and he trusted her and didn't act on his own extensive training. Honestly I do think the mistrial was probably the best call in this case because I don't think the prosecution could prove his fault except for the fact he made a mistake in judgement that day. The real fault lies with whoever took or placed those rounds on set, and then with Hannah who should've been vigilant in her job.
Judge Bev seems annoyed that the way she did things and is being challenged. There is quite an attitude in her demeanor. I feel like she is petty and abrasive and is going to be very hard on the defense!
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Really cannot wait for the Sarah Boone trial....not only because of the anticipations about her antics, but because justice for Jorge and his family is LONG OVERDUE!!!
I’ve been attacked by a dog twice, one of them was because a dog attacked mine (he was ok after stitches) and both times it was only my arm!
Too bad she doesn't have an unbiased judge like Baldwin
@@tessa4902 AGREED!!! Bev is legit awful! They wanna burn Karen like a witch ffs
Agree
She can not stand the defense and it’s so obvious..
@@OHiYoCHIC Agreed which is terrifying tbh!!! They need to demand a venue & judge change to protect Karens rights! And IF the feds know for fact she's innocent REALLY hope they fork over the proof! This BS's gone on WAY too long & caused SO many other probs for all involved!
@@SalemSphynxthe judge goes with no matter change of venue
Yes to black swan trial!
Yes to Black Swan!
Drinking from an "evidence" cup...😂😂
Bev showed her hand today-guess we all but know how she’ll rule 🤷♀️ Color me unsurprised.
So get the appeal ready before that day cause its obvious, she is a 🤡
I mean.... we all knew where it was going anyways. Auntie Bev wouldn't suddenly be fair at this point.
@@sarahbridget84 I know, and I agree. It’s just unbelievable that this whole situation has happened. I think the investigation was shoddy enough for the charges to have never been brought. It’s unbelievable that the CW stands behind this investigation and was willing to go to trial not only once, but twice! If I were a juror I wouldn’t have been able to even get past that, because I don’t understand how you don’t see reasonable doubt from the word go.
Yes to Black Swan trial!
Thank you, Peter! The timestamps are great. I’m hoping the FBI puts an end to this ridiculous case before retrial. I’m interested in any case you cover.
Ditto!
Alexee Traveso case is a must when it starts
Yes please!
Agree
Peter's Solo cup FTW! Lol👍🥤And of COURSE Biased Bev isnt dismissing this no matter what! There is NO justice in this dumpster 🔥 of a case
I vote for Black Swan case!
YES!!!
Can I just say I admire you as a person as well as an attorney. I agree w/ the comment someone wrote, that you should be a teacher. Although the more I listen to you.... we need you in politics. We need people with morals, and people that stand up for what is right. Blessings to you and your team and family.
Freakin to long, she
NEVER does right.
Justice for OJO &KR and Boston Mass
That sing song voice of hers drives me nuts.
This case will never get dismissed, not on Cannone’s watch.
She sure comes across as passive aggressive
It’s good thing she’s determined to see justice for JOK
@@jfk32975 Justice for JOK and Karen Reed should be her goal. JUSTICE should be her only goal as the judge.
Please cover black swan trial. Defense attorney is a piece of work!
LOVEEEEE Emily D. Baker & Law Nerds❤️🔥
Bounced between BOTH y'all channels during this channel during the ENTIRE TRIAL & will watch ALLLLL y'all post about it!!
Same ❤💜
She’s def gonna deny the motion to dismiss. Cause it’s her. And I will bet she won’t interview the jury either
Yes, please cover the black swan trail🙏🏽
I honestly can’t stand judge, but she is totally in with Morris and the DAs office totally she knows she didn’t hit John O’Keefe. She knows the truth.
Too bad Karen will not be able to sue the judge; however, Beverly Cannone should be investigated .
IMO Bev knows the case is a loser so she will put Karen in as much debt as possible! As a MA resident I am disgusted with wasting taxpayer money
WHO will lose though?
Everyone loses…
File a complaint about Bev. We the people need to speak up.
The jury voted 8-4 to convict on count 2. That’s far from a losing case.
@@mandystrong8196but 12-0 on the most important charges..
Black Swan Trial for sure
I vote for the black swan trial!!
YES!!!
Yes! Please
Yes to Black Swan
Yes! Black swan case!
+1 for Black Swan.
As a potential juror, just because the government says an accident is a crime doesn’t mean I agree.
Take everything a Prosecutor, Investigator or an Officer says with a grain of salt. I just sat and listened to an Investigator LIE and cover up the fact that “ accusations were filed in retaliation “ against my son, because a judge gave him visitation rights to his children. He was paying child support, obeyed the TRO, and had insurance coverage on them. In retaliation, the mother of his ex, and her sister went and filed false charges. No investigation was done and they all left out very important testimony. My son got 21 years, reduced to 5. I hate the INjustice system. It is so corrupt. The investigator lied, and said that the complaint from his ex was not sent to her until June , but, what she didnt tell them was that the reason a complaint was filed was the very tuesday, after the thursday week before that my son got visitation awarded to him.
It’s ridiculous. Why they would make that woman suffer like that when we know we are wasting taxpayer money at the same time as beyond me I don’t care for the judge at all.❣️
How about how the victims feel are suffering. KR could have easily avoided this. NOT DRINK DRIVE. i get so frustrated when I hear her suffering. Mrs OKeefe has lost a child 2 for that matter
Please cover Black Swan case! So much going on and all the legal jargon makes it hard to keep up.
Many issues like self defense and domestic violence.
Need your recaps Peter!
Yes Black Swan please!
Please break down Black swan trial
Thank you for normal speed!
I think the January 27th trial date is just right that way they can do all their appeals and all the other paperwork so when that day comes they can either go for it or dismiss it
Black Swan trial please
The judge is already saying she’s not gonna give into the defense basically
As she should. Karen won't get away with a crime. She needs to face the law
@@luisaramirez7502 canton police need to face the law. Karen is innocent. Please stop drinking the koolaid
@@kmm1691Karen is guilty and the majority of the jurors thought she as guilty on count 2.
@mandystrong8196 😆😆😆 ok bud. I suggest you seek mental help cause clearly you cant see reasonable proof that theres no way she couldve done it.....or is the fbi wrong in their accident reconstruction? I feel bad for you.
@@luisaramirez7502 remember the chat group text saying make sure you say the guy never went into the house. Do you remember the poor investigation? Do you remember to proctor saying she was already guilty without even investigating it properly? Albert never came out of his housewives he hiding in his house because he had blood on marks on him are you serious? You never listen to the whole trial. There was so much reasonable doubt on the menu. You didn’t know what to choose.
Did you hear about the Springfield officer who recently got arrested for murdering a black woman who called him because she believes she had a prowler. While his video cam was off, his partners was not. Instantly, after reviewing the body cam, he was removed from the police squad and arrested for murder. This is a really interesting case.
It's horrifying.
Yep! That's the next interesting one to me!
I luv EDB too. Enjoy that you all communicate & work so well together 🎉
I would hope any attorney would point this out to the public and the judge.
I like the bookmarks! Looks like you made a good hire.
Please cover the Black Swan case!
Thank you Kelsey for bookmarks!!!!!
Why doesn’t the defense get a change of venue?
I have the same question
Because Karen has tons of fans and a huge percentage are for her in that area!
You and Emily are my go-to channels for everything!!!! I watch you both for each case I follow!
Is it too late to cover Donna Adelson? The trial hasn’t started.
He’s been following already there’s a video of her arrest on his channel
@@simlyss I’ll look it up.
EDB said she thinks the trial won't be televised. So. Harder to recap for Peter
I came late to this today. But I think this date makes sense for re trail. Possibly more can come out. With FBI and possibly Proctor cases will be done. Which also can help break CW case.
Yes to Black Swan please!!😂 Next to you Peter I luv me some EDB!
Gives the FBI plenty of time to get the McAlberts !😂
@@TriciaMulvaney Albert’s had nothing to do with this and FBI already investigated. No 30 year police veteran would throw a body in his yard. Are you that brainwashed?
That family has alot involvement here. Karen didn't go in that house party because of how those people are.. I don't blame her. They think they are so high up the scale that no can touch them. Well in time it will come out. Karen Read has not one thing to do with any of John's death.
Cover up it is.
My thoughts exactly.
Hmmm 🤔
Those who still believe KR is guilty please, for once, what proof was provided by Lally?
@@PEBBLEZ21alberts name was ALL over this case. THEY'RE THE REAL MURDERS!
Two of my favorite commentators. 🎉❤
I can’t help but think that the reason the dog attack was only on the arm was because Chloe was pulled off.
Higgins told a cop at a Bridgewater bar that he pulled the dog off is what Sean M said
Absolutely!!!! The dog was trying to wake him up?!
I’m alittle behind but she should have already interviewed the jurors and if true set up a manslaughter trial in Sept or October
She probably has no intention of reaching out to the jurors. It will go through the appeals process ( the judge is allowing time for that ). She chose 8/9 for each side to argue their case regarding jurors verdicts or lack there of. Depending on who she sides with , be it defense or prosecution, the other side will appeal. Karen can’t be retried while an appeal is in progress. The judge chose a retry date in the future to allow for appeal process and for the attorneys to prepare for the new trial.
Live EDB’s reactions 😂
The bottom line about Baldwin is you flat out never point a gun at someone. My dad was a cop and he always stated that you can think a gun is empty but never assume that.
I really wanted this case to go before a jury.
“Only point a gun at something you intend to destroy”
That would be a great rule for cops to follow, not so much for actors.
@awesomebeautiful8782 nit a rule for cops...rule for anyone holding a gun
Also a screen actors guild rule
Please follow the Black Swan trial!
I love that you were drinking out of a Canton Police issue evidence container (red solo cup) while going over this 😅
I think January 27th is a horrible date right around the time of the incident
Bookmarks! Thank you!!
I honestly can’t stand judge bev but she is totally in with Morrissey and the DAs office totally she knows she didn’t hit John O’Keefe. She knows the truth.
8 of the jurors believed she did hit him.
@@mandystrong8196 are you drunk? I hope not because there’s obviously something wrong with you. It was 12 to 0 and two verdict and no one could find her guilty on manslaughter because she never hit him says all the medical in the other experts.
Count 2 just announced that 9 out 2 found guilty. Which means she hit him. Good luck believing she’s innocent
Unfair for Karen’s life
Thank you Peter.
I love British Crime Dramas! Usually extremely good actors.
I’d be down for the black swan. I know a bit of the case, but it seems pretty durned interesting
I thought this video was playing at faster speed until someone in the live chat pointed it out. I guess it's playing at normal speed. I gotta slow it down to keep up with you 😎 I really hope his family finds out what happened and get some closure! If karen is innocent, and I think she is, I hope everything gets better for her!
They know what happened. Karen hurt John in a drunken hateful rage.
I have some different predictions. Between pretrial, the trial, the FBI investigation & evidence of the McAlberts’ culpability it’s become very clear that the CW’s goals for this case are completely different than any normal case.
One of the CW’s goals is to keep this going as long as possible so they can deflect suspicions of corruption. To do anything less than everything is to admit to the coverup/malicious prosecution.
A second goal is that, as Andrea Burkhart says, “the process is the punishment.” The CW knows Karen is innocent and they know they’ll never get a guilty verdict. But they (this one includes Bev) are looking for revenge against Karen bc she refused to play nice, accept a plea, & go quietly off into the sunset. They will drag every bit of this out to prolong her misery & run up her legal bills. The process is the punishment.
Lally won’t change his strategy one bit. HIS goal is to maximize confusion & obfuscation bc it’s the only way to avoid an NG verdict across the board.
So:
1. If Bev rules to dismiss charges 1&3, Lally will absolutely appeal.
2. Lally will call every single prior witness and ask each every single irrelevant question again - the snow, the girls basketball, everyone’s drink orders, etc. (if Bev allows - note that she’s virtually never curbed Lally on any topic).
3. Even if Bev dismisses 1&3, Lally won’t give up on the Aruba thing or anything else that goes to motive.
This is a load of bull. The Albert’s had nothing to do with this. You had more culpability. A 30 year a police veteran would NOT throw a body in his front yard. Stop with your crazy. This woman was seen right where his body was found. She killed that man..I HATE YOU…she used a 7000 pound weapon to do it..motive and means..get out her colon.
They want Karen Read to bleed, no matter what the charges, verdict or costs. They are going to ruin her life for every day that they can possibly stretch it and they will gloat and pat themselves on the back while doing it, all the while mocking her leaky balloon knot, just not via phone this time. It's just tax payer money, why tf would they care? They could catch flack from higher up, but their best buddy DA was just reelected so they have no care in the world.
I totally and completely agree.
@@valhallaw lol what a load of crap..you think the CW would spend money if they think someone is innocent..? you really are up her rear aren’t you..yikes.
@@valhallaw OR SHE DID THIS..that’s a little more simple..LMAO..you really are a trip.
They need to throw this case out. That Judge is not understanding the truth of this whole case. If she cant figure everything out like we can, or we are sure this was a setup. To put Karen R on the map to cover up what really happened in that home... Karen Read has Nonething to do with any of this. ❤
Judges are merely cops wearing robes.
The judge doesn't decide the case.
You sound clueless
@@debijo5288 Did u watch any of the pre-trial hearings?! This case shoulda been thrown out just for the "missing" (or most likely purposely erased) 40+ min's of sallyport video alone that'd expose exactly wtf ALL those (recused + corrupt) cops were doing to Karen"s tail light for that whole time! This case, that biased af judge (the Alberts kids call "Aunty Bev"!) & Norfolk County DA = the biggest, grossest dumpster🔥mess I've EVER seen! And living in MA I've unfortunately seen A LOT of unjust BS!!! This is just SO bad tho.
I also 100% think Lally purposely dragged the trial out to drain Karens funds so she couldnt afford effective counsel & also to weed out jurors who seemed sympathetic to her. The jury had to leave their notebooks at court each day & I heard nothing re: them being locked up so no 1 could see what they were writing!!! What a mess
@@007nadineL If u watched any pretrial hearings it WAS bev who blocked tons of exculpatory evidence & allowed ALL lally's BS to go unpunished!
It's also quite OBV the judge who holds the power to throw the case out which she OBV shoulda done given the 40+ "missing" min.'s of sallyport video alone given the fact that woulda exposed exactly what all those compromised & recused cops did to & with Karens tail light!
debijo5288. Hmmmm. Verbalizing in writing KR has Nothing to do with any of this case is someone who may have blinders on imo! Pretty opinionated without facts to back up statement and not aware of the total case imo. No matter how you feel about the judge….she knows much more than you or anyone of us know.
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Missed the live this morning, but will be at Members today at 2pm--Live!
Drinking from the evidence cup on stream was perfection ❤😂
Watching replay..was that a solo cup you got over there...
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Evidence** cup 😂
Man, I had jury duty today and it was awful. Three hours in a court room, two different cases pulled for jury. I was dismissed and I'm glad. But I learned I don't have the personality for a jury or courtroom. It is so slow and so boring and technical.
Bev really is the worst
Please cover Black Swan!
They're going to try to bankrupt her.
If she gets acquitted, she will be diving into her money like Scrooge McDuck lol
She deserves to be punished. The majority of the jurors thought so too. 8 - 4 Guilty on count 2.
@@mandystrong8196 Mandy show me the evidence
@@mandystrong8196we don't determine guilt based on a majority vote.
@@Schnickums the defense said it in the court paperwork.
I think Jan of 2025 is too far for the new trial!
What happened to Allan Jackson??
Black swan please!
No Black Swan
Hi Peter, always grateful for your coverage
I do think the time the judge gave is about right
I think its about right due to all the holidays
#replayclub. Love the bookmarks! Another great episode!
Their alleged not guilty 'agreement' was also 'soft' agreements. There was no verdct which is why the foreperson didn't check the box and sign the form. She must be retried as she's guilty of the most serious charge.
#tewatch crew once again…..sure miss watching live with all of you !!!
Well, police dogs are trained to attack the arm --- the right arm --- the (usual) weapon arm? Correct? That's how they take out the biggest treat in an evolving situation.
Judge on her best behavior and sweet voice for guest star Attorney Weinberg.
Thanks for the updates
2 days prior to anniversary of JO death
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Scheduling hearing was less than 5 mins. Looks like a new trial will start end of January 2025.
Thank you and your dad for the term Pariah. I used that term in my video that dropped today on my channel Write with Mykela. If you're curious, the episode is S3 2 Ep 15. I would post the link for you, but I didn't think that would be politically correct. I did give you credit on my video.
Thanks for all you do.
Black Swanbtrial please, Perer! Thanks for your level-headed, logic-based legal explanations, and keeping your podcasts compact and concise!
Why don’t she just dismiss it so they can appeal it now then
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She hasn't even heard the arguments yet she can't just dismiss it that's not legal.
Not even all jurors came forward. Jurors get influenced by what they hear after the fact it's hard to just decide that is an acceptable reason to dismiss charges
They will appeal between the hearing and the trial.
Thank you for the bookmarks
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Please cover Black Swan
Just right.
23:52 i never had doubt that Baldwin had no "intention" of hurting anyone....however as you said Baldwin has been working with firearms for a very long time, his father was a shooting coach, he has been acting for what 40+ years and has worked with many armourers and weapons experts over those years so he definitely knows about gun safety, and I think that no matter what he should've checked the weapon.....however if LE struggled to tell the difference between the live rounds and blank and dummy rounds then Baldwin would probably not have been able to tell them apart. In all reality Hannah was the last line of safety and as the "expert" employed on set she was the one who should've been able to tell the rounds apart and removed and safely locked away any even slightly suspicious rounds so they could not have been loaded.....saying that though Baldwin also knows NOT to point the firearm towards anything he did not intend to shoot
I love Yannetti.
It gives defense lawyers time to prepare and possibly appeal and gives Karen a little more time to breathe.
Except that is literally the JOB of an ACTOR- to point prop guns at people & shoot prop guns at people... you have literally have film after film of actors legit holding guns to eachothers HEADS&PULLING the triggers because THAT IS WHAT ACTING IS. It is not valid or reasonable to judge an actions in a vacuum- beliefs& actions are not a blanket one size fits all- situations matter& DIFFERENT SITUATIONS call for different analyses given the context. Being an actor is NOT the same as some random guy at his home just beleiving or being told that a gun is unloaded &pointing it as his friend as there is simply no comparable situation which includes/makes it reasonable/makes it not wreckless for a regular citizen to be pointing guns at people AT ALL- that doesnt mean that actors should treat it as a prop without question, or not check it themselves, or that the industry shouldnt consider how to better safety standards, it simply means that acting involves a different set of reasonable actions &beliefs & its not going to work to simply transfer over regular intuitions& practices from a regular gunowner/user context. I have a serious problem with people using the kind of "you never point a gun at someone" rationale here- it doesnt apply to actors- actors point guns at people, its CALLED ACTING, its their job, they are literally playing a role on a film that involves doing this, & also involves a reasonable basis for thinking it is a safe prop.
For reference consider another job that involves clearly diff reasonable acts/beleifs- like a police officer- everyday we recognize that certain acts which would automatic be wreckless or crimes by citizens have to be judged differnt considering what is reasonable for police to do & beleive in context-im not talking about justifed instants of force here(technically if force was justifed by officers than it would usually, maybe not always in exact same ways every situation, but still usually also be justifed by citizens under self defense laws) i'm talking about equivalent acts & mistakes judged differntly given the reasonable beliefs of police... for ex: idk say police enter a home on basis of a 911 call/warrant/etc, but theyre actually at wrong address, so technically they have no legal justification to go into THAT SPECIFIC HOME, & say homeowner is hurt or dies bc they thought burglars were breaking in & grabbed a gun or w.e...well this happens every single day, police arent charged with breaking & entering nor murder nor manslaughter nor wreckless etc when they enter the wrong house & even cause deaths bc of this mistake(at best a civil lawsuit is made...as too happened with Baldwin), since police officers jobs entail going into homes & their belief at the time they enter this wrong address(say, they beleive its address of a violent deadly battery on DV call, or beleive theyre enacting a warrent on dangerous criminals with numerous guns/drugs etc) informs their behavior in the situation- obviously if police realize theyre at the wrong home & still shoot the homeowner who grabbed their gun than this would become questionable to outright criminal(if it could be proven they realized this) bc the homeowner is acting reasonably from their point of view, but the police are acting on the assumption that this person is a dangerous criminal or abuser & thus when they see the gun we accept that they shoot reasonably on the basis of their own beleifs at the time, & we accept that those beliefs WERE REASONABLE for them EVEN though we know its the wrong house. There is zero comparible situation where a citizen could enter someones home with a weapon, see the homeowner holding a weapon & be justifed to shoot them, there simply is no comparible context. There is no comparible context of actors who use prop guns& shoot them at other actors, there is no reasonable basis or belief of gun owners behaving in the same way as actors on a movie set who reasonably beleive the gun is a prop. There are different reasonable assumptions& actions in different contexts- and ACTING is a context where a belief in the gun being a prop is reasonable & the action of pointing the guns at people is not only reasonable/not a matter of wrecklessness by defintion but is LITERALLY their job.
Im a fairly big believer in genuine mistakes & so EVEN in a context of a regular citizen thinking a gun is unloaded I could still see being sympathetic to them in certain instants- but it is still always going to involve atleast some level of wrecklessness to causually be pointing & waving around a gun even if you think its not loaded- which just isnt remotley the same case for an actor on a movie set.
@ar4203 yes acting is his job but as I said he is well versed in firearm safety, he wasn't meant to be pointing the weapon at someone at that time, and when he was supposed to be pointing at someone there are extra safety precautions taken.
I could understand someone playing the they didn't know card if they are new to acting and new to working with firearms but Baldwin himself claims to be an "expert" and as I said his father was a shooting coach AND having worked with many many armourers and varying weapons over his 40+ year career in acting he has been trained and reminded over and over. Like I said I don't think he ever had intention and I think he probably had a lapse in judgement and trusted Hannah. And as I have said Hannah really was the last line of defense in this case, SHE was the one majorly neglectful, SHE was the one who failed to remove and lock up any suspicious rounds or rounds she wasn't sure about, SHE told Baldwin it was "cold" and he trusted her and didn't act on his own extensive training.
Honestly I do think the mistrial was probably the best call in this case because I don't think the prosecution could prove his fault except for the fact he made a mistake in judgement that day.
The real fault lies with whoever took or placed those rounds on set, and then with Hannah who should've been vigilant in her job.
Peter is drinking Evidence! 😆
The dog ate pig ears, thus pig dna!..
Oh my gosh! YES that makes sense!!
That's what I've been saying all along. It's well known pigs ears are a treat for dogs, my dog loves them
Love these bookmarks! Thank you!
Black Swan case plz!!
Judge Bev seems annoyed that the way she did things and is being challenged. There is quite an attitude in her demeanor. I feel like she is petty and abrasive and is going to be very hard on the defense!
It is not great for his other client to learm they are not a priority
Black Swan recaps if you have time would be great!!!