literally looked up "autism and bpd" because I was curious if it was possible or if someone else experiences this... i find it hard to get doctors to listen, so... this was very validating and i want you to know it's appreciated.
I'm autistic and questioning if I might have BPD. It's really hard to tell because they mix so... uniquely. Thanks for making this video it's one of the only ones I've been able to find.
Thank you for opening up and making this video, I have been feeling the exact same way and it feels good to know that I am not alone. I am not diagnosed but I know for a fact that I have bpd but I know it’s not just that there is smt else and I think it’s possibly asd as well because I seem to relate 100% to people who have both rather than people who just have one of both
i know this video was probably difficult to make but i'm so proud of you for making it. it's nice to see someone going through and feeling the exact things i am, especially since there aren't many videos covering asd & bpd together
I really appreciate you for making this video. I recently found out that I most likely have both BPD and ASD, and it was so incredibly validating to hear someone else actually put words to so much of daily implosion that is my mental state. Keep strong buddy, and thank you ^v^
I also avoid friendships not only because I'm afraid they'll leave me or hate me but because I also don't trust my own self and I am afraid of hurting them as well or not being able to support them if they need me because I'm very unstable
....thank you so much for this. We all feel twinges of hope when we know we're not alone. I have ASD (or aspergers), ADHD, BPD, and CPTSD. I have a theory that BPD is a manifestation of traumatized neurodivergent people, and I think loud BPD can be often associated with ADHD, and quiet BPD can be associated with ASD or asbergers. One of the few decent therapists I had said she believes one day they will classify BPD as a symptom of CPTSD (complex ptsd). I oscillate between quiet bpd behaviors, and loud bpd behaviors- just like I oscillate between being understimulated (adhd), or overestimated with ASD stuff. I really appreciate the video. I don't think I've ever really been able to admit or grasp the depth of my trust issues, but your video allowed me to admit that I truly don't fully trust a single soul (other than animal souls). I think a big part of living in the healthiest of ways with these comorbities is really just to learn ways to actually understand our feelings, and find ways/people/arts/ what the hell ever - to let out our sensitivity and deep empathy in a safe way.
The bpd and traumatised nd people got me! Very interesting to think about quiet and loud BPD like that… makes sense! Thank you for articulating/sharing 🙌🏾
This video has been helpful for me. I know what that’s like. I know that no one else in your life is likely to understand because it’s rare to have these two diagnosis. It’s why I like TH-cam because you’ll find that many know exactly how you feel. I’m undiagnosed but I have the symptoms for these both. I’m glad more people are aware of what asd and bpd are. I think I’m from the generation that doesn’t even think ADHD exist. Praying for you💜
Thank you so much for this. No one ever talks about these two happening together and this is the first actual video I could find of someone who actually struggles with it. I got dx'd w BPD and am looking into ASD and this is super relatable... pls I wish u the best of luck + let me remind u that u r extraordinary. thnks again!,,
Late diagnosed ASD and BPD here and you have described exactly how it is for me. Thank you for this video. Have you ever thought about DBT as a therapy. It is meant to be really good for people with BPD.
Wost part is the team who *OFFICALY* diagnosed me with BPD and told me repeatedly it was an offical diagnosis did not offisialy log the diagnosis, so as far as the medical system is aware I do not have BPD. So now I have to get another diagnosis because of their incompitance... And thank you for the comment, im glad I was able to help people understand and help understand themselves ^v^
@@AnOceanOnFire Starting with self talk (compassionate/kind) is something that can be done alone there's also workbooks that may help under the right circumstances
One thing I admire from you is how empathetic you are despite all this shit you're going through compared to me I'm just so full of hatred and most of the times I hate everyone and everything and I dotnt even feel guilt and I have no energy to deal with anyone which is rooted on my insecurities and feeling like everyone has it better than me, but in the end it adds to hating myself. Because I know it's the easy way to blame it on everyone and it's just me avoiding dealing with the things that make me suck, a thing that normal people don't struggle as much with but for me it's really difficult deal with But I dont think I used to be like this though. Many times I honesty can't figure out whether I do things for others because of empathy or rather just to feel better about myself.
I think the difference is where we placed the hate, you place it externally on the world, while I used to hate myself, I still do to an extent, neither are healthy, nether help, what you need to do is start taking control, do research on your condition, learn it, make it into a challenge you can face and crush it, or, learn to accept it, and once you do, It becomes easier. Nothings quick, it always takes time, and that's not always fun, so, honestly find what you enjoy and just do it, play videogames, watch whatever you want, go outside, I don't know, whatever it is do what you enjoy, it can help to feel joy for once.
I'm the same have aspergers and BPD overlap and I loose everyone in my life. So sorry you experience this. I found working on reparenting my inner child and doing lots of psysical excercise really helps me stabalise my moods/emotions. Also use DBT 5 senses excercise in difficult moments to recenter myself. Trust is a really tough one for me too but got an amazing man (my favourite person) in my life who really cares about me and I'm trying really hard to be as healthy as possible for him.
Thank you so much for this video. You are beautiful soul for being so open. I totally get you. I am 46 years old and have been diagnosed with bpd, cptsd, depression, bad social anxiety, adhd and have traits of autism. I am studying now to learn more about autism traits in me. I am very sensitive to noises, lights, climate, clothing etc. I am too honest, naive and forgiving. I hope you get some good support. It helps a lot to have support here in internet even though this is hard to deal with. Do you have therapy or any medication. Many hugs. There is nothing wrong with you as a person. I can relate to this and I believe that you are able to help many of us with the same struggles. Keep on shining. Ps. SSRI medication has helped me to numb the worst ups and downs. You are not alone. You seem like deeply caring and sensitive person.
I'll be your friend I totally understand and I struggle with the same thing! I have Bpd and autism aswell. Don't be so hard on yourself! What's up today?🙂
I have no idea who I am, and smts don’t even understand what I do wrong even if people tell me it’s wrong and I hate it because I don’t do on purpose to hurt people and I just want to be better so I ask them but it makes it worse because it annoys them
i love the empathy, if there were more people who cared unconditionally for the people in this world the way you appear to genuinely feel a lot of people would be saved from being depraved
just like most feelings, people can have different base levels of empathy. empathic people can be extremely sensitive to others emotions and i find a lot of people i meet just don't have the ability, just like everyone not a saint or monk, to sustain being like this for a very long time without mentally breaking down repetitiously and without proper venting support and enough time to recoup eventually causing extreme internal turmoil making losing hope in the ability to sustain a livable life inevitable. i assume that the majority of people are unconsciously avoiding being like this for survival and prosperity reasons. seems logical enough. kind of like that feeling of torpor after a long cry or an extreme emotional response like from episodic mental conditions and breakdowns like with ptsd, autism, bipolar and I'm sure a lot more, i think they are blocking out those emotions. like to think of it this way, it gives me a reason i can empathize with and continue to care and strive the for the betterment of others the way i desire without feeling overwhelmingly unloved and the need to close off because they didn't reciprocate my affection. i feel like they just need me to meet them somewhere in the middle, just cause they can't handle the stress of being empathetic as much as me doesn't mean they hate you, it's hard to say that because the feeling of being betrayed is my immediate reaction. it is also common in people to feel inadequate like this to some degree and perhaps they are doing like me and avoiding being hurt emotionally by distancing themselves from feelings they can't appropriately handle by shutting people out. this was long and felt preachy and unattached. i didn't want to relay the feeling that i am unattached to this subject like a psychologist or counselor does to people who just need someone to empathize with but i also didn't want to add feelings that can trigger people who are somehow hanging by an invisible thread. to anyone who can actually read through this shit, congratulations on your ability to stick with it, it gets better. like fucking milk in the sun turning into some cheese. it can get better. I'm no doctor or any type of smart, i hope something i wrote here can make you feel better or maybe think of something in a different way and help you them get some recoup time.
@@bridgetwilson8384 I did read all of that, and I do agree, the thing about humans and emotions is its all random, some people are great at it and some people are horrible at it, the issue is some people have so much empathy that they try to help everybody until the stress of that overwhelms even them. Thank you for writing that.
@@AnOceanOnFire something that helped me (adhd and borderline + likely autism) was telling myself outloud when I was alone and feeling lonely "I am (feeling) lonely" it formed and intimate communication network with a deeper part of myself, and has lead to more deeper realizations of self (ps there's also a shcema somewhat common amongst borderlines the essentially is a belief that the self is evil it can be really hard to overcome, but overcoming it is doable. for the vast majority of people I would highly suggest doing it with the assistance of a "trusted" [as much as possible] professional who has a deep understanding of shcemas and their impact in general)
Have you watched Dr Fox on TH-cam? He’s very helpful and supportive in a way I’ve never seen. I feel like you often. I have bpd traits and am currently thinking I have high functioning autism too. It isn’t your fault and when you find a good support group and therapist, it will get better.
I have quiet bpd too i also am on the spectrum of autism I think I have bdd, Im avoidant, Im depressed, Im codependent mm what else.. Im not sure but I think I have adhd
I also removed myself from my only friend group and removed myself off of Facebook after blocking them. All because I didn’t want them to leave or get bored of me and yea. I can understand what your going through as it might be similar. A couple of them I’ve pushed away from asking them too many questions like why I annoying or do I bore you. When I had “friends” they never really messaged unless I messaged first. And then I go on downward spiral and message them the message I know I shouldn’t message but it happens.
Can't say to much better, more numb to it, taking medication again and it seems to be helping. Trying my best to help myself however! Also do you know me or are you just a kind stranger asking? Because I have a horrible memory x'D
Hi, the video you're mentionning by Olivia Rose seems to be set to private... Could someone please share which Olivia Rose released this video, so I can at least try and see other videos by that person (if she's ever done any other videos...) ? Thanks.
I have checked my private playlist I had her video on and unfortunately it has been taken down, which makes me very sad as it was an amazing video, and gave me inspiration for mine.
im like you bro , i get your evry word.... you are awsome , dont forget that . if you are "NORMAL!!!" and you want to undrestand how we feel in this f...ing world i want you imagine you are living in a world who 99% of people are psycapath and sociapath , in this world how you going to feel?! you going to be hyper sensetive by thous psycapath's , you dont going to have any relationship and you going to ask them "how shuld i beheave?" the "normal people!!!!" are psycapath's of borderlines....
literally looked up "autism and bpd" because I was curious if it was possible or if someone else experiences this... i find it hard to get doctors to listen, so... this was very validating and i want you to know it's appreciated.
This is exactly how I feel as someone with autism who uses to suffer from BPD
I'm autistic and questioning if I might have BPD. It's really hard to tell because they mix so... uniquely. Thanks for making this video it's one of the only ones I've been able to find.
Thank you for opening up and making this video, I have been feeling the exact same way and it feels good to know that I am not alone. I am not diagnosed but I know for a fact that I have bpd but I know it’s not just that there is smt else and I think it’s possibly asd as well because I seem to relate 100% to people who have both rather than people who just have one of both
i know this video was probably difficult to make but i'm so proud of you for making it. it's nice to see someone going through and feeling the exact things i am, especially since there aren't many videos covering asd & bpd together
Don't blame yourself too much. There are people who do not understand but also the ones who do. Remember that you are not alone with this.
I really appreciate you for making this video. I recently found out that I most likely have both BPD and ASD, and it was so incredibly validating to hear someone else actually put words to so much of daily implosion that is my mental state. Keep strong buddy, and thank you ^v^
I also avoid friendships not only because I'm afraid they'll leave me or hate me but because I also don't trust my own self and I am afraid of hurting them as well or not being able to support them if they need me because I'm very unstable
Same
....thank you so much for this. We all feel twinges of hope when we know we're not alone. I have ASD (or aspergers), ADHD, BPD, and CPTSD. I have a theory that BPD is a manifestation of traumatized neurodivergent people, and I think loud BPD can be often associated with ADHD, and quiet BPD can be associated with ASD or asbergers.
One of the few decent therapists I had said she believes one day they will classify BPD as a symptom of CPTSD (complex ptsd).
I oscillate between quiet bpd behaviors, and loud bpd behaviors- just like I oscillate between being understimulated (adhd), or overestimated with ASD stuff.
I really appreciate the video. I don't think I've ever really been able to admit or grasp the depth of my trust issues, but your video allowed me to admit that I truly don't fully trust a single soul (other than animal souls). I think a big part of living in the healthiest of ways with these comorbities is really just to learn ways to actually understand our feelings, and find ways/people/arts/ what the hell ever - to let out our sensitivity and deep empathy in a safe way.
You are correct imo. I reached same conclusion in regard to how the bpd is formed.
The bpd and traumatised nd people got me! Very interesting to think about quiet and loud BPD like that… makes sense! Thank you for articulating/sharing 🙌🏾
@Niphyra absolutely
@Niphyra autistic people can be understimulated as well, but I think generally speaking autistic people deal with more overstimulation.
Stay strong man, always here if you need me dude!
This video has been helpful for me.
I know what that’s like. I know that no one else in your life is likely to understand because it’s rare to have these two diagnosis. It’s why I like TH-cam because you’ll find that many know exactly how you feel. I’m undiagnosed but I have the symptoms for these both. I’m glad more people are aware of what asd and bpd are.
I think I’m from the generation that doesn’t even think ADHD exist. Praying for you💜
Thank you so much for this. No one ever talks about these two happening together and this is the first actual video I could find of someone who actually struggles with it. I got dx'd w BPD and am looking into ASD and this is super relatable... pls I wish u the best of luck + let me remind u that u r extraordinary. thnks again!,,
Late diagnosed ASD and BPD here and you have described exactly how it is for me. Thank you for this video. Have you ever thought about DBT as a therapy. It is meant to be really good for people with BPD.
Wost part is the team who *OFFICALY* diagnosed me with BPD and told me repeatedly it was an offical diagnosis did not offisialy log the diagnosis, so as far as the medical system is aware I do not have BPD. So now I have to get another diagnosis because of their incompitance...
And thank you for the comment, im glad I was able to help people understand and help understand themselves ^v^
And yes, I have thought about DBT, however where I was living it was quite hard to do
@@AnOceanOnFire Starting with self talk (compassionate/kind) is something that can be done alone there's also workbooks that may help under the right circumstances
Thank you for this
One thing I admire from you is how empathetic you are despite all this shit you're going through compared to me I'm just so full of hatred and most of the times I hate everyone and everything and I dotnt even feel guilt and I have no energy to deal with anyone which is rooted on my insecurities and feeling like everyone has it better than me, but in the end it adds to hating myself. Because I know it's the easy way to blame it on everyone and it's just me avoiding dealing with the things that make me suck, a thing that normal people don't struggle as much with but for me it's really difficult deal with
But I dont think I used to be like this though. Many times I honesty can't figure out whether I do things for others because of empathy or rather just to feel better about myself.
I think the difference is where we placed the hate, you place it externally on the world, while I used to hate myself, I still do to an extent, neither are healthy, nether help, what you need to do is start taking control, do research on your condition, learn it, make it into a challenge you can face and crush it, or, learn to accept it, and once you do, It becomes easier.
Nothings quick, it always takes time, and that's not always fun, so, honestly find what you enjoy and just do it, play videogames, watch whatever you want, go outside, I don't know, whatever it is do what you enjoy, it can help to feel joy for once.
I'm the same have aspergers and BPD overlap and I loose everyone in my life. So sorry you experience this. I found working on reparenting my inner child and doing lots of psysical excercise really helps me stabalise my moods/emotions. Also use DBT 5 senses excercise in difficult moments to recenter myself. Trust is a really tough one for me too but got an amazing man (my favourite person) in my life who really cares about me and I'm trying really hard to be as healthy as possible for him.
I hope you're ok
Thank you so much for this video. You are beautiful soul for being so open. I totally get you. I am 46 years old and have been diagnosed with bpd, cptsd, depression, bad social anxiety, adhd and have traits of autism. I am studying now to learn more about autism traits in me. I am very sensitive to noises, lights, climate, clothing etc. I am too honest, naive and forgiving. I hope you get some good support. It helps a lot to have support here in internet even though this is hard to deal with.
Do you have therapy or any medication. Many hugs. There is nothing wrong with you as a person. I can relate to this and I believe that you are able to help many of us with the same struggles. Keep on shining.
Ps. SSRI medication has helped me to numb the worst ups and downs. You are not alone. You seem like deeply caring and sensitive person.
I care about you because this was so honest and eye opening. I was the friend who had to give up.
I'll be your friend I totally understand and I struggle with the same thing! I have Bpd and autism aswell. Don't be so hard on yourself! What's up today?🙂
I have no idea who I am, and smts don’t even understand what I do wrong even if people tell me it’s wrong and I hate it because I don’t do on purpose to hurt people and I just want to be better so I ask them but it makes it worse because it annoys them
Know the exact feeling mate. I’ve got the exact same and adhd and more. Here for you bro
i love the empathy, if there were more people who cared unconditionally for the people in this world the way you appear to genuinely feel a lot of people would be saved from being depraved
just like most feelings, people can have different base levels of empathy. empathic people can be extremely sensitive to others emotions and i find a lot of people i meet just don't have the ability, just like everyone not a saint or monk, to sustain being like this for a very long time without mentally breaking down repetitiously and without proper venting support and enough time to recoup eventually causing extreme internal turmoil making losing hope in the ability to sustain a livable life inevitable. i assume that the majority of people are unconsciously avoiding being like this for survival and prosperity reasons. seems logical enough. kind of like that feeling of torpor after a long cry or an extreme emotional response like from episodic mental conditions and breakdowns like with ptsd, autism, bipolar and I'm sure a lot more, i think they are blocking out those emotions. like to think of it this way, it gives me a reason i can empathize with and continue to care and strive the for the betterment of others the way i desire without feeling overwhelmingly unloved and the need to close off because they didn't reciprocate my affection. i feel like they just need me to meet them somewhere in the middle, just cause they can't handle the stress of being empathetic as much as me doesn't mean they hate you, it's hard to say that because the feeling of being betrayed is my immediate reaction. it is also common in people to feel inadequate like this to some degree and perhaps they are doing like me and avoiding being hurt emotionally by distancing themselves from feelings they can't appropriately handle by shutting people out. this was long and felt preachy and unattached. i didn't want to relay the feeling that i am unattached to this subject like a psychologist or counselor does to people who just need someone to empathize with but i also didn't want to add feelings that can trigger people who are somehow hanging by an invisible thread. to anyone who can actually read through this shit, congratulations on your ability to stick with it, it gets better. like fucking milk in the sun turning into some cheese. it can get better. I'm no doctor or any type of smart, i hope something i wrote here can make you feel better or maybe think of something in a different way and help you them get some recoup time.
@@bridgetwilson8384 I did read all of that, and I do agree, the thing about humans and emotions is its all random, some people are great at it and some people are horrible at it, the issue is some people have so much empathy that they try to help everybody until the stress of that overwhelms even them.
Thank you for writing that.
@@AnOceanOnFire something that helped me (adhd and borderline + likely autism) was telling myself outloud when I was alone and feeling lonely "I am (feeling) lonely" it formed and intimate communication network with a deeper part of myself, and has lead to more deeper realizations of self (ps there's also a shcema somewhat common amongst borderlines the essentially is a belief that the self is evil it can be really hard to overcome, but overcoming it is doable. for the vast majority of people I would highly suggest doing it with the assistance of a "trusted" [as much as possible] professional who has a deep understanding of shcemas and their impact in general)
Have you watched Dr Fox on TH-cam? He’s very helpful and supportive in a way I’ve never seen. I feel like you often. I have bpd traits and am currently thinking I have high functioning autism too. It isn’t your fault and when you find a good support group and therapist, it will get better.
Same
I can relate to all of this. It's scary.
I thought I was alone in the world with both these XD
I want to just stop and I can't. I destroyed a relationship with a lovely girl. I damaged friendships. I am so exhausted
I have quiet bpd too i also am on the spectrum of autism I think I have bdd, Im avoidant, Im depressed, Im codependent mm what else.. Im not sure but I think I have adhd
I also removed myself from my only friend group and removed myself off of Facebook after blocking them. All because I didn’t want them to leave or get bored of me and yea. I can understand what your going through as it might be similar. A couple of them I’ve pushed away from asking them too many questions like why I annoying or do I bore you. When I had “friends” they never really messaged unless I messaged first. And then I go on downward spiral and message them the message I know I shouldn’t message but it happens.
I feel your pain man. I feel your pain
hey, watched your video and wanted to know how you are doing these days?
Can't say to much better, more numb to it, taking medication again and it seems to be helping.
Trying my best to help myself however!
Also do you know me or are you just a kind stranger asking?
Because I have a horrible memory x'D
Wish i had a friend like you
Hi, the video you're mentionning by Olivia Rose seems to be set to private... Could someone please share which Olivia Rose released this video, so I can at least try and see other videos by that person (if she's ever done any other videos...) ? Thanks.
I have checked my private playlist I had her video on and unfortunately it has been taken down, which makes me very sad as it was an amazing video, and gave me inspiration for mine.
@@AnOceanOnFire Okay, thanks for your help.
im like you bro , i get your evry word.... you are awsome , dont forget that . if you are "NORMAL!!!" and you want to undrestand how we feel in this f...ing world i want you imagine you are living in a world who 99% of people are psycapath and sociapath , in this world how you going to feel?! you going to be hyper sensetive by thous psycapath's , you dont going to have any relationship and you going to ask them "how shuld i beheave?" the "normal people!!!!" are psycapath's of borderlines....
I'm here for you bro if you need to vent, I got you bro.
After corona we'll go out for a beer or something, yeah?