The problem is, if you are getting use to a one type of sight and you change it to another, you will feel that's something wrong, so you have to stick to just one sights design for all of your guns
Thanks for the video. I have been on the fence about getting the Big Dot sights. Strangely enough your video has helped me decide to get the Big Dots. I don't shoot competition. I just want better sights than my standard Glock sights for EDC, and as you put it, the XS sights are "more like combat sights" which is what i want in an EDC sight. Plus i'm pushing into my 60's and my eyes ain't what they use to be so i think the Big Dots will help. Again, thank you for posting this and good luck with your competition shooting.
If you are cross eyed dominant, meaning you shoot right-handed but are left eye dominant, the I-dot sights are excellent as you don't have a plane shift.
Once heard a very skilled trap shooter explain why luminescent sites are not good. He basically said that they draw your eye to the sight and not the target. That was 20 years ago but it always stuck with me.
I looked at new Ameriglo orange style Agent sights for my used Glock 41 gen 4 .45 model. I chose the larger Tru Glo TFX pro orange. They were on sale: $103 + free S-H. 📦 . I had a gun shop add the TFX pro sights. My only - so far is the front post has a slight wiggle, not firm like the rear posts. I saw 1 gun channel youtube host say a drop or 2 of Lock tite Blue can steady these Tru Glo Glock sights. The sight picture is bright but I'm concerned with long term carry, damage.
that is a great point! I wondered about that before buying the XS. I would not put that on all the pistols so I would probably get messed up too. Thanks.
Shot a competition with XS sights. Sillouette hits were fine but trying to aim for a 3inx3in size target or the hostage taker target was impossible. I couldn't figure out where to put the dot... Lower or higher, impacts we're off. I'd just use any traditional sights instead.
@@MrGunnerru According to the instructions and people who use XS dot sights, you have to cover your target with the dot, almost like using an over sized red dot sight. Obviously you'll be obscuring a small target using that technique but that's not what those sights are meant to do. They're meant to quickly and reliably put rounds on a man sized target. They exist to prevent the typical case of "find the front sight" or "find the red dot".
Take a file and lightly round the edge, that's what I did. Shine a light on the front sight and charge the orange ring and you will have a big dot for about an hour after charging.
Ian Aintsaying Ian Aintsaying Did you watch the video? That's my main point. I have two different sight systems and I'm going to have to change to the same kind on both. I didn't realize how different they were and how long it takes to get used to them when you pick up the other one
Thanks. I was just on the internet look at xs sights when I took a break to watch your video. I was about to make the exact same mistake you did. Same sights & everything lol. Big thanks.
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Yeah I would agree that your using 2 different sight pictures that your having/ needing to learn and adjust too. They both are great, but you need to stay the same.
you’re replacing the wrong sights... stick with the XS Big or Standard Dot sights! for both speed and horizontal target acquisition... and intuitive night alignment... not to mention being able to rack the slide with a decent back sight profile... they are the BEST! i have them on all my handguns and couldn’t be happier. its way more natural to align the iDot than center one dot between two dots :)
Different strokes for different folks. It wasnt hard, but it was harder for me to align the big dots than traditional notch and post or three dot. Maybe that's just me.
I have 3 glocks. I have the same sights on each which are the XS R3D night sights. I used to run with a canik tp9 elite sc with a red dot- I took the red dot off and got the glock 17 to replace it just to be proficient across the different glocks. any if anyone wonders why three glocks- I have a 9 for the hood, 10 for the woods, and a 45 acp for home defense.
I’ve got my glock 17 stipples and undercut as well. Although I don’t have another glock to compare side by side I’ve heard from others that the undercut actually slightly changes your grip resulting in a change to where your sights normally line up. Could be the cause of you getting better with one gun the more you use it and worse with the other. Just a thought
Interesting thought. I have Sig 226’s and switching to a Glock is quite difficult. Maybe it would be easier to make the switch back and forth with XS sights.
The big dot sights are better imo, 3 dot post sights block your vision of the target on the left and right side, while the big dot is more like a red dot giving you higher visibility on both sides of the target. 3 dot sights actually block your vision of the target fairy significantly. And its easier to line up 2 dots rather than 3 dots, thats pretty self explanatory, Less is more in this case, But to each his own.
Love my HD's and have them on every pistol I own, for the exact reason you stated, a consistent platform across the board. Whatever my next pistol purchase is I will probably slap on HD XR's, but haven't shot them yet.
You have made a very point not normally recognized or talked about with those of use with more than one gun. I carry the G19 as well as G26 GEN 4s. As these two have very much the same grip, switching EDC is never a problem. UNLESS they have totally different targeting system. The sights don't have to be the same, but should allow easy transition. GOOD VIDEO and POINT. Target competition sights don't always make good defensive sights as earlier pointed out here.
I know what you're saying but it's the same gun and same guy holding them. Learning where your front sight is in space is proprioception. When you have two different styles of sights that line up differently, its slows that down. You have to retrain it everytime.
1st set of sights i ever bought- trijicon hds. i slipped racking n cut my hand bad. i still have them on my unmillled g22 slide but i put haleys on my unmilled 27, xs big dot on a milled, those ameriglo rolland sights on another milled, and pro i-dot on another unmilled.... i hate those hds lol. i dislike the xs installation but they are great sights n not sharp. man if you can find the haley sights in stock- buy them. they are honestly the best carry sights i have tried. i like the black rear on my 27 with the short sight radius. (ameriglo hackthorn similar but the haley sights a smidge taller if im not mistaken). i totally agree with you n tell people about this all the time- they really fucked my hand up, i will give mine away too once i replace my g22 sights lol
AnMSpec Honestly I still haven't gotten to them. The carry pistol seems like it would be first priority, but the wife gave me the go ahead on a long range bolt gun so I've gotta sink my money into that while I can. I AM planning on doing a giveaway with my TH-cam subscribers if you guys have a G19 and are interested. It could be a month or 4 3 months from now, I'm not really sure. But stick around, because I don't have many subscribers and even less that want them.
One you shoot for comp, the other you shoot for your life. I have the same sights for all my guns. I don't have your particular issue with having to get proficient on different platforms (gun/sight comb). If it were me, I'd rather get used to my carry gun. If you only had one gun, which would you take between the two?
Hey man what do you think about the Truglo FAST rear sight? I just ordered one for my uncle for christmas after running through all sorts of options with him; he liked how they looked like faster acquisition sights like the big dot but squared off. I cannot find a single video or review for them though.
Both were great, just different. It wasn't that one was that much better is that I kept getting used to one and then had to adjust for the other. Overall preference is Ameriglo UC though
I had the same problem..just get the same sights for both guns..because basically you are just using a new gun....I understand what you are going through..pick the sights out of the 2 that you like the best and put it on the other gun....you will be fine!@!
Not a training issue. At least not realistically. I'm sure if you had mounds of ammo and unlimited instruction you could get to the point where you can pick up different sighting systems and run them without hesitation, but that tiny half of a second for my brain to identify the types of sights I have is the problem here. Obviously in the video I stated I could shoot them an problem. It was the transition back and forth that I didn't like. In competition it slowed me down a split second and my carry gun slowed me down a split second. Much those split seconds matter.
I ended up going Ameriglo UCs on my 19. I couldn't be happier. The big dots are where it's at for some people. I just decided I liked the 3 dot style with big orange dot better
I just put the XS Big dots on both my 19 and 17, and definitely within 10-15 yards it shouldn't be a problem if you actually try to practice and get decent with them. I can make 50 yard shots now with them but it took me a little bit to get used to it. They are fast, but part of me almost wonders if I should have got the XS F8s instead, because they still seem fast but seem to also have precision as well. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side haha. One major plus for the Big dots is I can actually see my sight picture without my glasses on. So far with all other sights I've tried, I couldn't do that. So for that reason alone, I'll probably stick with the Big dots and just train with them. Realistically the vast majority of self defense situations were under 10 yards, and I do believe the big dots are faster within those tighter distances.
Seems like the sharp edges on your trijicons are probably just a bad set. I’ve never seen any others like that. I have never seen any others like that. A file or some sand paper will take care of that edge. The 2 sights being such different styles seems to be the issue here. I would stick with notch and post on all guns or lollipop on all guns.
Yes. There's nothing at all wrong with the XS sights. But the more I've used the ameriglos and HDs they are significantly better in my opinion. The giant orange dot for me is so easy to find. And it's easier to square up with the rear. The benefit of the XS is supposed to be fast front sight pickup, but the HDs and ameriglos are much faster to me.
Big dot sights aren’t for competition. They’re combat sights made for quick target acquisition. I would 1000 times rather have it dots on a carry weapon.
I didn't use them for competition. I used HDs. I explained that two different sighting systems made it slower going back and forth (between my competition g17 with HDs and my carry g19 with big dots) At the distances a big dot excels at, seeing your sights isn't even that necessary IMO. If you prefer big dots that's ok. I prefer HDs. I now carry a red dot anyway so they're blacked out irons
please read all ,,,,,,,,, if and when you pull your gun on and shoot some one , trust me you are not going to be looking at the sights!!! your eyes will be fixed on that person !! if you take time to look through the sights , guess what ??? you will not even hear the shot that just hit you !! try this ! pull your gun now look at your target !! with both eyes open ! with out looking at your gun ! you can see ( 2 ) guns , that person that your going to shoot will be between the ( 2 ) guns trust me on this !! LONG STORY SHORT !!! i do the same thing bow fishing , if i take time to aim , i miss every time ,, but when i see a fish moving quickly i just through up and draw and shoot , i get more fish that way then i do aiming , so id wouldent worry a lot about the sights !! i hope this helps , thanks
Brocked and Loaded well he's right it's instinct in a serious situation to hold your gun out and up from your chest, not to bring the gun to eye level. This is one advantage of having a laser sight on your home defender, you don't need to bring the gun to your eye.
YEP to the above. I have had a weapon being drawn on me twice. The first time was an armed robbery at a convenience store as I exited. I was being asked for money repeatedly and followed. Told the guy to back away and he placed ONE hand in his jacket AND his eyes did a quick look to my left and back. I had done some scanning but every nerve in my body felt lit and I was holding onto my gun under my jacket and almost out of the holster. When I looked quickly to my left to find the 2nd guy and came back to the one in front of me his gun was half out of his jacket. I thrust mine out and screamed, "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS". He put the gun back and put his hands out. I NEVER saw the sights. I didn't need them from 8-10 feet. I did have time slow as I worked out what I was going to do if he raised the gun as well as checked if I still had the building of the convenience store behind him AND also wondered if there were cameras and thought to myself "Shoot if he does not drop the gun back into his pocket". With the carjacking I was pinned in before I stopped the engine (forgot to always back into a spot) and I exited after about 20 seconds of waiting and tossing my dome light on to show the guys (4) that I was armed with my weapon pointing up from my shoulder. Two exited with guns a moment after I did as I got behind the engine block. I lit them up (I do hope everyone knows to have at least one flashlight if you carry) with 1000 strobing lumens and both tried to cover their eyes with arms crossing and I then saw the guns in each ones hand. Never saw the sights. I kept my eyes on the threat and judged their capacity to act. I also noted the neighborhood behind them as every bullet fired comes with a lawyer. Maybe I would have gone to the sights if I was to shoot more than 4-6 times a month and about 1000 rounds. But what is going on beyond the sights in "their circle" is more important for me to take-in before I can make a decision to shoot. I probably could have fired both times. I've taken 70 hours of combat handgun with a Air Marshal who trains his men, and with a SWAT Team leader. Both have stated that if you are reacting you are trying to get the shot off first and moving, and we also practiced point shooting as it is quite unlikely we will need a surgical hit that misses a hostage. A first shot between the nipples and throat will do a lot to help us win because the bad guy is not mentally prepared to be shot. You had better be because he who gives up, dies. Perhaps if you are shooting at Grand Master level in competition and the sights are embedded into your shooting you might look at them and even through them IF you are already in motion where you know you are firing. But for we mere mortals, I did exactly what a Federal Agent/Trainer and a SWAT officer said I would do. I looked at the threat to access my right to shoot. If you are fixated on the sights (but you won't be) you might miss that he drpopped the gun, but the camera didn't. Then whatever the policy of your DA, and whether he is up for re-election and who you shot, might be what determiners your fate before a Grand Jury. If you are carrying and have not gotten at least one all day class with 500+ rounds fired, I will dare say you are doing yourself a poor service as well as your loved ones. A good number of guys I know have said "I would have unloaded the whole magazine into them". None have had formal training from qualified law enforcement or combat vets. The right answer is, "Glad you didn't have to shoot them". If you know a criminal defense lawyer, which I do, he'll explain that you do not want to shoot someone even in a Castle State if you can let them walk away.
While this does work, I have done some experimenting at extremely close ranges with a timer. I really wish I had my results on me right now, but I'm half a world away. Anyway there's a way to draw and present known as a flash sight picture. You keep both eyes open, and you keep both eyes on the threat but you present your pistol into your line of sight and basically shoot it like a shotgun. Side note this is also why I think shotguns are so awesome for home defense. As soon as you see your front sight on the target you pull the trigger. I did several five-shot strings, that's five draw present fire on a Target at 5 yards. I did the shoot between the two guns method, I shot from the hip, and a shot with a flashlight picture. Typically the flash sight picture was 1/10 , to a 20th of a second faster. You heard that right faster. Also shooting from the hip I missed one of the targets. Accuracy taking a flash sight picture was about a fist-sized group middle of the target. And I will tell you this when you start going that fast, your brain is doing things that you're not consciously aware of. Like picking up that front sight. I've experienced this hunting I've experienced it shooting skeet, and I've experienced it doing fast work with pistols on the Range. You go through the action so fast, and so much of it is just pure muscle memory that you don't actually notice what you're doing. But if you pay attention you're still doing it. The two guns method works by the way, but not out past about 10 yards. I haven't owned a set of XS Big dots yet, and I'm not sure I will, but I believe that the idea of the flash sight picture is what they're aiming for here. They're giving you a very large very noticeable front sight that is unobscured by the rear blade to give you the best chance of picking it up and getting on target quickly. Let me rephrase keeping both eyes on the target placing the site in your line of sight and then firing was both faster and more accurate / more reliable then uname fire at 5 yards. Now for my caveat, from my personal experience granted on firing ranges, and some of the training I received, I would not level that gun any closer than 5 yards. Inside of about 10 ft you're inside weapons retention range, and what I mean by that is you're so close that in fractions of fractions of a second that attacker could have his hand on your gun. So it contact distances I practice inside five realistically I would say inside three yards I shoot from the hip. No I'm not recommending anybody do that, but if those rangers you absolutely do not need to see your gun and rather you shoot from the hip, shoot from Center of your chest, you need to keep that gun pulled back because if you extend it it's going to get levered away from you. Also inside those ranges you absolutely do gain speed by not extending your weapon, up to a tenth maybe even a 25th of a second depending on your individual speed and skill level. At least that's my observations using the exact same Target on a timer and different techniques. Also working with other people to do these experiments.
Carl Andrews It's a little different than a regular backstrap, because it only comes down about 2/3 of the way. I may make a video explaining it. It actually fills the void sort of right in the cut it part of the grip, so that it makes the grip feel more like a 1911 angle. I had a screw put in my wrist, so the sharp glock angle where it kind of tweaks your wrist forward is pretty uncomfortable. Feels awesome with the Grip Force Adaptor. Also, the pronounced V helps to find a proper grip when drawing with speed. May not be for everyone, but everyone that has used it loves it.
I bought LPA sights for a H&K VP9. The issue I found is that the front sight is now much higher then the original and i tend to incline the gun. No adjustments are further possibile because I already reached the maximum level of adjustment. Now I'm asking this comunity if someone knows this issue? I'm considering to bring back on the gun the original front sight because it is much closer to the gun, in the hope that I'll be able to gain some adjustment credit on the rear sight. Thank You. Felix.
Jesse Robinson Cool. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. Really dont think a lot of people understood how sharp those are. It drew blood on my forearm every competition
Hit those HDs with some 500 grit sandpaper... If that's not something you'd be willing to do, get some Truglo Tritium Pros for both guns & send me those HDs! 😅 2 sets will cost about the same as 1 new set of Trijicons...and they are brighter
I have those Trijicon HD sights on my glock 43. On my Glock 17 Gen 3 I have fiber optic. I do love my HD sights also. My question is what holster are you using for that Glock 17 with the light? I know this is no video but I've been looking for that particular holster exactly. Can you or anybody help me? thank you.
@@commentcommenter3529 oh wow. If you're from the Philipines you'll like my Rock Island 1911 videos. They're based out of the Philippines. Im sure you knew that though. How cheap are they there?
Brocked and Loaded A good RIA will cost around 50k Php or around 1k USD. The glocks here are expensive almost and at times exceeds 50k, the angstad 9 mm I want to get (dreaming of) is 160k and the sp there I read is a bit over 500 USD. Crazy prices but ... as often is the case ... you gotta pay to play.
The post & ball sight is stupid. Thoes " bat wings" should be slanted DOWN w the post at the peak. In combat, IF you have time to aim you don't need the rear sight clogging up/ blocking your total target picture. They were NOT well thought out.
Man I had the same issue! I started aiming high on every other pistol. I got rid of them after I felt myself doing it. It's just so much easier to run like that. I'm trying to keep it all 3 dot territory now. It's more to look at but it keeps you sharper overall.
I'd love to but I've already given them away to a subscriber on here in a giveaway I did. Thanks for watching though! Never know when ill give something else away
Brocked and Loaded lol it happens. But I tuned in cause I'm thinking about switching my glock factory sights to the hd and been trying to see what people think and whether to get the orange or yellow. It seems like the yellow is a bit brighter but the orange just contrasts well with backgrounds
stektirade Well thanks for watching man. TH-cam is an awesome source of info for us so we dont waste money. Is yours a carry gun? Because I'm looking at the Ameriglo UC sights right now. Pretty much exactly like the HDs, but 70ish dollars. And no sharp edge on the back. If you need any info about the HDs, just ask. The Orange IMO is better, because you're right. The Yellow/green tends to wash out just a tad in brightly lit backgrounds. The Orange is a natural contrast in dark and light.
stektirade gotcha. Well, if money's an issue, check out those Ameriglos. My buddy has them and it's literally the same front sight even trijicon vials, says trijicon on the side, and same sight picture. I was standing there thinking why the hell did I pay 50 bucks more for the HDs? Lol
This is wrong thinking. Be a student of weapon craft in general. What if you have to use a “battlefield pickup” one day? Are you going to cry because it doesn’t have your favorite sights on it? Marksmanship fundamentals are what matters most. You should be combat accurate with any type of sights.
That's funny, because "combat accurate" was never my goal. Supreme accuracy and speed is. I'm perfectly fine picking up a dirty AK and getting hits at 300 yards. We're talking about splitting the hair here. If I'm buying guns, there's really no reason if I'm going to be shooting then a lot to have different sight systems on them for no reason. Doesn't mean i can't use them. Just means I want to be faster.
This is stupid. It's like, once you learn how to drive a stick shift you always know how to drive a stick shift. I can continue with the same analogy, but I got to get back to work.
Not really. You can choose to believe that if you want, but we are talking about higher level function here. Not going to an indoor range an punching holes in paper. Split times. Training with a gun is a perishable skill. Much like when I get in my truck with a console shifter and reach for the lever on the steering column after driving a forklift all day, you're good at what you get used to.
@@brockedandloaded6034 That's a logic with excuses. I don't want to hear it. That's like me saying...I patrol all day long in my patrol car at work and when I get on my motorcycle to ride home blah blah yadayada blah blah. Excuses. Yeah, I'm talking smack. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?
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How does that solve the problem? I don't want my competition gun or carry gun to be slower. I changed out the sights on my g19 to ameriglo, basically the same.
Cesar Robles almost everywhere I've seen they are $141. I'd wait until black Friday and there will be somewhere that has a 20% off everything or something.
The problem is, if you are getting use to a one type of sight and you change it to another, you will feel that's something wrong, so you have to stick to just one sights design for all of your guns
Exactly what I was going to say. Both guns need to be the same sight. Especially worth your carry. Life and death is more than a trophy
Thanks for the video. I have been on the fence about getting the Big Dot sights. Strangely enough your video has helped me decide to get the Big Dots. I don't shoot competition. I just want better sights than my standard Glock sights for EDC, and as you put it, the XS sights are "more like combat sights" which is what i want in an EDC sight. Plus i'm pushing into my 60's and my eyes ain't what they use to be so i think the Big Dots will help. Again, thank you for posting this and good luck with your competition shooting.
No problem in glad it helped!
Bro like my rear sight just went loose and idk if is manufactured problems or what I was at the range and it flew off
Ameriglo I-Dot Pro's is a great compromise
I use the same sights on my duty and concealed carry Glock. Problem solved.
You carry glocks?
If you are cross eyed dominant, meaning you shoot right-handed but are left eye dominant, the I-dot sights are excellent as you don't have a plane shift.
I stick to standard 3 dot or blacked out rear. It standardizes the aiming between all of my handguns.
Once heard a very skilled trap shooter explain why luminescent sites are not good. He basically said that they draw your eye to the sight and not the target. That was 20 years ago but it always stuck with me.
Since when are trap shooting and defensive pistol shooting alike at all? Apples and oranges.
When shooting a shotgun your focus should be on the target BUT when shooting a pistol or a rifle your focus should be on the front sight.
Combat shooting = front sight focus.
Extremely good informative video as well as advice on having one type of sight system and sticking with it.
If you haven't already,try the Ameriglo I dot pro sights. There the best of both worlds to me just a thought.
Thanks. I went with ameriglo UC sights on my 19 now, but in the future I may try those. I do like those as well. Ameriglo is pretty awesome.
I looked at new Ameriglo orange style Agent sights for my used Glock 41 gen 4 .45 model. I chose the larger Tru Glo TFX pro orange. They were on sale: $103 + free S-H. 📦 . I had a gun shop add the TFX pro sights. My only - so far is the front post has a slight wiggle, not firm like the rear posts. I saw 1 gun channel youtube host say a drop or 2 of Lock tite Blue can steady these Tru Glo Glock sights. The sight picture is bright but I'm concerned with long term carry, damage.
@@DavidLLambertmobile get a glock front sight tool for $10 and blue loc-tite/ screw the front down
that is a great point! I wondered about that before buying the XS. I would not put that on all the pistols so I would probably get messed up too. Thanks.
Shot a competition with XS sights. Sillouette hits were fine but trying to aim for a 3inx3in size target or the hostage taker target was impossible. I couldn't figure out where to put the dot... Lower or higher, impacts we're off. I'd just use any traditional sights instead.
What are traditional sights? Do you mean blacked out target sights?
@@JanO209 yeah those
@@MrGunnerru According to the instructions and people who use XS dot sights, you have to cover your target with the dot, almost like using an over sized red dot sight. Obviously you'll be obscuring a small target using that technique but that's not what those sights are meant to do. They're meant to quickly and reliably put rounds on a man sized target. They exist to prevent the typical case of "find the front sight" or "find the red dot".
Yeah, I put those same HD sights on my G43X EDC gun and the sharp edges of were digging into my stomach. I just filed them down.
Take a file and lightly round the edge, that's what I did. Shine a light on the front sight and charge the orange ring and you will have a big dot for about an hour after charging.
Wouldn't it be better to have the same sights on both guns?
Ian Aintsaying Ian Aintsaying Did you watch the video? That's my main point. I have two different sight systems and I'm going to have to change to the same kind on both. I didn't realize how different they were and how long it takes to get used to them when you pick up the other one
He says that at the end
I think he means same exact sights ...
I pretty much do. The HDs and the Ameriglos are basically the exact same thing.
Thanks. I was just on the internet look at xs sights when I took a break to watch your video. I was about to make the exact same mistake you did. Same sights & everything lol. Big thanks.
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Thank you for the tip. I am thinking about new sights so this is very helpful.
No problem thanks for watching
Yeah I would agree that your using 2 different sight pictures that your having/ needing to learn and adjust too. They both are great, but you need to stay the same.
you’re replacing the wrong sights... stick with the XS Big or Standard Dot sights! for both speed and horizontal target acquisition... and intuitive night alignment... not to mention being able to rack the slide with a decent back sight profile... they are the BEST! i have them on all my handguns and couldn’t be happier. its way more natural to align the iDot than center one dot between two dots :)
Different strokes for different folks. It wasnt hard, but it was harder for me to align the big dots than traditional notch and post or three dot. Maybe that's just me.
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I have 3 glocks. I have the same sights on each which are the XS R3D night sights. I used to run with a canik tp9 elite sc with a red dot- I took the red dot off and got the glock 17 to replace it just to be proficient across the different glocks. any if anyone wonders why three glocks- I have a 9 for the hood, 10 for the woods, and a 45 acp for home defense.
Exactly. I think uniformity matters. The closer the weapons we are likely to use are to the ones we train with the better.
What holster is that on the right? At the beginning of the video
M3 Tactical kydex. Not sure they're in business anymore
Glad you posted this, it helps. I will find sights I like and have them on all my pistols. I was thinking about the ameriglo protector sights.
Appreciate the opening, brother.
I’ve got my glock 17 stipples and undercut as well. Although I don’t have another glock to compare side by side I’ve heard from others that the undercut actually slightly changes your grip resulting in a change to where your sights normally line up. Could be the cause of you getting better with one gun the more you use it and worse with the other. Just a thought
Interesting thought. I have Sig 226’s and switching to a Glock is quite difficult. Maybe it would be easier to make the switch back and forth with XS sights.
Find the sights you like and stick with them.
The big dot sights are better imo, 3 dot post sights block your vision of the target on the left and right side, while the big dot is more like a red dot giving you higher visibility on both sides of the target. 3 dot sights actually block your vision of the target fairy significantly. And its easier to line up 2 dots rather than 3 dots, thats pretty self explanatory, Less is more in this case, But to each his own.
I run a red dot now anyway, so really the best case scenario as far as sight obstruction goes.
Love my HD's and have them on every pistol I own, for the exact reason you stated, a consistent platform across the board. Whatever my next pistol purchase is I will probably slap on HD XR's, but haven't shot them yet.
You have made a very point not normally recognized or talked about with those of use with more than one gun. I carry the G19 as well as G26 GEN 4s. As these two have very much the same grip, switching EDC is never a problem. UNLESS they have totally different targeting system. The sights don't have to be the same, but should allow easy transition. GOOD VIDEO and POINT. Target competition sights don't always make good defensive sights as earlier pointed out here.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
The XS sight was designed for battle combat etc. Place the ball on target and squeeze the trigger not for precision shooting.
Sounds like a presentation issue sights will not shift if you have a solid repeatable presentation of the pistol as long as grip angle is the same
I know what you're saying but it's the same gun and same guy holding them. Learning where your front sight is in space is proprioception. When you have two different styles of sights that line up differently, its slows that down. You have to retrain it everytime.
I would have tried putting the same sights on both guns if it was possible.
1st set of sights i ever bought- trijicon hds. i slipped racking n cut my hand bad. i still have them on my unmillled g22 slide but i put haleys on my unmilled 27, xs big dot on a milled, those ameriglo rolland sights on another milled, and pro i-dot on another unmilled.... i hate those hds lol. i dislike the xs installation but they are great sights n not sharp. man if you can find the haley sights in stock- buy them. they are honestly the best carry sights i have tried. i like the black rear on my 27 with the short sight radius. (ameriglo hackthorn similar but the haley sights a smidge taller if im not mistaken). i totally agree with you n tell people about this all the time- they really fucked my hand up, i will give mine away too once i replace my g22 sights lol
Nice set up on both pistols .. hope you got more effective on both pistols
What did you do with the old sight on your glock 19 ?
AnMSpec Honestly I still haven't gotten to them. The carry pistol seems like it would be first priority, but the wife gave me the go ahead on a long range bolt gun so I've gotta sink my money into that while I can. I AM planning on doing a giveaway with my TH-cam subscribers if you guys have a G19 and are interested. It could be a month or 4 3 months from now, I'm not really sure. But stick around, because I don't have many subscribers and even less that want them.
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One you shoot for comp, the other you shoot for your life. I have the same sights for all my guns. I don't have your particular issue with having to get proficient on different platforms (gun/sight comb). If it were me, I'd rather get used to my carry gun. If you only had one gun, which would you take between the two?
Hey man what do you think about the Truglo FAST rear sight? I just ordered one for my uncle for christmas after running through all sorts of options with him; he liked how they looked like faster acquisition sights like the big dot but squared off. I cannot find a single video or review for them though.
They look like a pretty cool design. I'd like to try them, but I've never seen them in person.
Which one did u pick up on smoother if u remember
Both were great, just different. It wasn't that one was that much better is that I kept getting used to one and then had to adjust for the other. Overall preference is Ameriglo UC though
I had the same problem..just get the same sights for both guns..because basically you are just using a new gun....I understand what you are going through..pick the sights out of the 2 that you like the best and put it on the other gun....you will be fine!@!
Yeah I've got the same sights on my carry and competition Glocks so that in the case that I have to use my carry glock, it comes natural.
Well, what do you think that you should do? Hmmm?
I gave away the big dots to a viewer and bought ameriglos
Kiss theory? Keep it simple sir. Reduce the number of variables, and reduce variation.
@@kevgo366 I agree
How did you end up getting your big dots off? I lost the freaking wrench for the set screws… I know it’s stupid…
It is a 3/16th nut driver. They cost almost nothing. No need for a special tool.
It’s a training issue, not the sights. If you can’t adjust using different sights and the same platform of a pistol, then just change the sights.
Not a training issue. At least not realistically. I'm sure if you had mounds of ammo and unlimited instruction you could get to the point where you can pick up different sighting systems and run them without hesitation, but that tiny half of a second for my brain to identify the types of sights I have is the problem here. Obviously in the video I stated I could shoot them an problem. It was the transition back and forth that I didn't like. In competition it slowed me down a split second and my carry gun slowed me down a split second. Much those split seconds matter.
been my fight deciding which of the 2 to use on my 17 edc. been leaning towards the big dot
I ended up going Ameriglo UCs on my 19. I couldn't be happier. The big dots are where it's at for some people. I just decided I liked the 3 dot style with big orange dot better
I just put the XS Big dots on both my 19 and 17, and definitely within 10-15 yards it shouldn't be a problem if you actually try to practice and get decent with them. I can make 50 yard shots now with them but it took me a little bit to get used to it.
They are fast, but part of me almost wonders if I should have got the XS F8s instead, because they still seem fast but seem to also have precision as well. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side haha.
One major plus for the Big dots is I can actually see my sight picture without my glasses on. So far with all other sights I've tried, I couldn't do that. So for that reason alone, I'll probably stick with the Big dots and just train with them.
Realistically the vast majority of self defense situations were under 10 yards, and I do believe the big dots are faster within those tighter distances.
Seems like the sharp edges on your trijicons are probably just a bad set. I’ve never seen any others like that. I have never seen any others like that. A file or some sand paper will take care of that edge. The 2 sights being such different styles seems to be the issue here. I would stick with notch and post on all guns or lollipop on all guns.
Mine were just as sharp. Took a file and got them to just where I wanted them.
Are those the Trijicon XD XRs or just the regular ones?
Regular
I have HD’s I’m my M&p and I’m thinking about trying the XS sights on my other gun. Overall you think the HD’s are better?
Yes. There's nothing at all wrong with the XS sights. But the more I've used the ameriglos and HDs they are significantly better in my opinion. The giant orange dot for me is so easy to find. And it's easier to square up with the rear. The benefit of the XS is supposed to be fast front sight pickup, but the HDs and ameriglos are much faster to me.
Just a note. The Ameriglo I-Dots are just as sharp. You could cut steak with them.
Big dot sights aren’t for competition. They’re combat sights made for quick target acquisition. I would 1000 times rather have it dots on a carry weapon.
I didn't use them for competition. I used HDs. I explained that two different sighting systems made it slower going back and forth (between my competition g17 with HDs and my carry g19 with big dots)
At the distances a big dot excels at, seeing your sights isn't even that necessary IMO. If you prefer big dots that's ok. I prefer HDs. I now carry a red dot anyway so they're blacked out irons
please read all ,,,,,,,,, if and when you pull your gun on and shoot some one , trust me you are not going to be looking at the sights!!! your eyes will be fixed on that person !! if you take time to look through the sights , guess what ??? you will not even hear the shot that just hit you !! try this ! pull your gun now look at your target !! with both eyes open ! with out looking at your gun ! you can see ( 2 ) guns , that person that your going to shoot will be between the ( 2 ) guns trust me on this !! LONG STORY SHORT !!! i do the same thing bow fishing , if i take time to aim , i miss every time ,, but when i see a fish moving quickly i just through up and draw and shoot , i get more fish that way then i do aiming , so id wouldent worry a lot about the sights !! i hope this helps , thanks
1JRrambo thats assuming its a reactive shot. So you have sights on your gun? According to your logic, why?
Brocked and Loaded well he's right it's instinct in a serious situation to hold your gun out and up from your chest, not to bring the gun to eye level. This is one advantage of having a laser sight on your home defender, you don't need to bring the gun to your eye.
No....no...
YEP to the above. I have had a weapon being drawn on me twice. The first time was an armed robbery at a convenience store as I exited. I was being asked for money repeatedly and followed. Told the guy to back away and he placed ONE hand in his jacket AND his eyes did a quick look to my left and back. I had done some scanning but every nerve in my body felt lit and I was holding onto my gun under my jacket and almost out of the holster. When I looked quickly to my left to find the 2nd guy and came back to the one in front of me his gun was half out of his jacket. I thrust mine out and screamed, "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS". He put the gun back and put his hands out. I NEVER saw the sights. I didn't need them from 8-10 feet. I did have time slow as I worked out what I was going to do if he raised the gun as well as checked if I still had the building of the convenience store behind him AND also wondered if there were cameras and thought to myself "Shoot if he does not drop the gun back into his pocket".
With the carjacking I was pinned in before I stopped the engine (forgot to always back into a spot) and I exited after about 20 seconds of waiting and tossing my dome light on to show the guys (4) that I was armed with my weapon pointing up from my shoulder. Two exited with guns a moment after I did as I got behind the engine block. I lit them up (I do hope everyone knows to have at least one flashlight if you carry) with 1000 strobing lumens and both tried to cover their eyes with arms crossing and I then saw the guns in each ones hand. Never saw the sights. I kept my eyes on the threat and judged their capacity to act. I also noted the neighborhood behind them as every bullet fired comes with a lawyer. Maybe I would have gone to the sights if I was to shoot more than 4-6 times a month and about 1000 rounds. But what is going on beyond the sights in "their circle" is more important for me to take-in before I can make a decision to shoot. I probably could have fired both times. I've taken 70 hours of combat handgun with a Air Marshal who trains his men, and with a SWAT Team leader. Both have stated that if you are reacting you are trying to get the shot off first and moving, and we also practiced point shooting as it is quite unlikely we will need a surgical hit that misses a hostage. A first shot between the nipples and throat will do a lot to help us win because the bad guy is not mentally prepared to be shot. You had better be because he who gives up, dies.
Perhaps if you are shooting at Grand Master level in competition and the sights are embedded into your shooting you might look at them and even through them IF you are already in motion where you know you are firing. But for we mere mortals, I did exactly what a Federal Agent/Trainer and a SWAT officer said I would do. I looked at the threat to access my right to shoot. If you are fixated on the sights (but you won't be) you might miss that he drpopped the gun, but the camera didn't. Then whatever the policy of your DA, and whether he is up for re-election and who you shot, might be what determiners your fate before a Grand Jury.
If you are carrying and have not gotten at least one all day class with 500+ rounds fired, I will dare say you are doing yourself a poor service as well as your loved ones. A good number of guys I know have said "I would have unloaded the whole magazine into them". None have had formal training from qualified law enforcement or combat vets. The right answer is, "Glad you didn't have to shoot them". If you know a criminal defense lawyer, which I do, he'll explain that you do not want to shoot someone even in a Castle State if you can let them walk away.
While this does work, I have done some experimenting at extremely close ranges with a timer. I really wish I had my results on me right now, but I'm half a world away. Anyway there's a way to draw and present known as a flash sight picture. You keep both eyes open, and you keep both eyes on the threat but you present your pistol into your line of sight and basically shoot it like a shotgun. Side note this is also why I think shotguns are so awesome for home defense. As soon as you see your front sight on the target you pull the trigger. I did several five-shot strings, that's five draw present fire on a Target at 5 yards. I did the shoot between the two guns method, I shot from the hip, and a shot with a flashlight picture. Typically the flash sight picture was 1/10 , to a 20th of a second faster. You heard that right faster. Also shooting from the hip I missed one of the targets. Accuracy taking a flash sight picture was about a fist-sized group middle of the target. And I will tell you this when you start going that fast, your brain is doing things that you're not consciously aware of. Like picking up that front sight. I've experienced this hunting I've experienced it shooting skeet, and I've experienced it doing fast work with pistols on the Range. You go through the action so fast, and so much of it is just pure muscle memory that you don't actually notice what you're doing. But if you pay attention you're still doing it. The two guns method works by the way, but not out past about 10 yards. I haven't owned a set of XS Big dots yet, and I'm not sure I will, but I believe that the idea of the flash sight picture is what they're aiming for here. They're giving you a very large very noticeable front sight that is unobscured by the rear blade to give you the best chance of picking it up and getting on target quickly. Let me rephrase keeping both eyes on the target placing the site in your line of sight and then firing was both faster and more accurate / more reliable then uname fire at 5 yards. Now for my caveat, from my personal experience granted on firing ranges, and some of the training I received, I would not level that gun any closer than 5 yards. Inside of about 10 ft you're inside weapons retention range, and what I mean by that is you're so close that in fractions of fractions of a second that attacker could have his hand on your gun. So it contact distances I practice inside five realistically I would say inside three yards I shoot from the hip. No I'm not recommending anybody do that, but if those rangers you absolutely do not need to see your gun and rather you shoot from the hip, shoot from Center of your chest, you need to keep that gun pulled back because if you extend it it's going to get levered away from you. Also inside those ranges you absolutely do gain speed by not extending your weapon, up to a tenth maybe even a 25th of a second depending on your individual speed and skill level. At least that's my observations using the exact same Target on a timer and different techniques. Also working with other people to do these experiments.
Xs sights are made for fighting with not playing with
usmc2044 Thank you for that insight.
Except you can't guarantee you'll hit the same as with traditional pistol sights.
take a Dremel to the edges of trijicon HD or file it works good
Who makes that Glock 19 holster?
It was a company called M3Tactical Kydex. To my knowledge they went out of business unfortunately
I like the Tiger Woods set up.
Tiger woods setup?
Off topic....you have gen4 glocks.why the aftermarket bevertails and not a bevertail backstrap????
Carl Andrews It's a little different than a regular backstrap, because it only comes down about 2/3 of the way. I may make a video explaining it. It actually fills the void sort of right in the cut it part of the grip, so that it makes the grip feel more like a 1911 angle. I had a screw put in my wrist, so the sharp glock angle where it kind of tweaks your wrist forward is pretty uncomfortable. Feels awesome with the Grip Force Adaptor. Also, the pronounced V helps to find a proper grip when drawing with speed. May not be for everyone, but everyone that has used it loves it.
Send the 19 sights to me in south africa,hehehe!!!👍🏻👌🏻
Haha already gave em to a subscriber in a giveaway! Y'all need em in SA though!
So take a small fine file to those sight edges.......simple fix.
Concealable bayonet rear sight.
I'm not a fan of the orange site personally but that's just my preference
I bought LPA sights for a H&K VP9. The issue I found is that the front sight is now much higher then the original and i tend to incline the gun. No adjustments are further possibile because I already reached the maximum level of adjustment. Now I'm asking this comunity if someone knows this issue? I'm considering to bring back on the gun the original front sight because it is much closer to the gun, in the hope that I'll be able to gain some adjustment credit on the rear sight. Thank You. Felix.
I don't have any experience with that. Sorry
Every set night sights i buy for a pistol to swap out the factory ones never shoot like originals.
I put the hds on my 1911 truck gun. Love them. Going to try meplor on my new glock
Very good points. I personally do better with front sight fiber optics.
try the standard dot
Still got the sights? Ill take em!
@aquahobby the giveaway video is up right now if you want them!
Jesse Robinson Cool. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. Really dont think a lot of people understood how sharp those are. It drew blood on my forearm every competition
Thanks for this video
Thanks for watching!
The DXT2 have a version with orange front site
What's DXT2?
The new big dots www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/10/daniel-zimmerman/xs-sights-introduces-new-dxt2-big-dot-night-sights/
God I hope he figured out you don't use different sight appetures in your inventory.
Different sight appetures?
Hit those HDs with some 500 grit sandpaper...
If that's not something you'd be willing to do, get some Truglo Tritium Pros for both guns & send me those HDs! 😅 2 sets will cost about the same as 1 new set of Trijicons...and they are brighter
What kind of holsters do you have for the 17 and 19??
I have those Trijicon HD sights on my glock 43. On my Glock 17 Gen 3 I have fiber optic. I do love my HD sights also. My question is what holster are you using for that Glock 17 with the light? I know this is no video but I've been looking for that particular holster exactly. Can you or anybody help me? thank you.
I've been planning on getting the xs tryin to save up
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Nice vid. If you haven't given those sights away I'd love to have them. 😀
Thanks but I gave them away when I hit 300 subscribers. Next time!
Brocked and Loaded Thanks for the reply and thanks in advance for next time 😃. Parts here in the philippines are at times 2 to 3 times more expensive.
@@commentcommenter3529 oh wow. If you're from the Philipines you'll like my Rock Island 1911 videos. They're based out of the Philippines. Im sure you knew that though. How cheap are they there?
Brocked and Loaded A good RIA will cost around 50k Php or around 1k USD. The glocks here are expensive almost and at times exceeds 50k, the angstad 9 mm I want to get (dreaming of) is 160k and the sp there I read is a bit over 500 USD. Crazy prices but ... as often is the case ... you gotta pay to play.
Brocked and Loaded Most of us buy during mid year and year end, thats when the gun shows are held.
Check out tru glo Tritium pro or ameri glo agent sights.
Just get a file and take those sights down bud, not a big deal.
It's not the first time I heard the trijicons are sharp... I just ordered some and will file them before install if they are also sharp 👍
The post & ball sight is stupid. Thoes " bat wings" should be slanted DOWN w the post at the peak. In combat, IF you have time to aim you don't need the rear sight clogging up/ blocking your total target picture. They were NOT well thought out.
love that 17
take a hard Arkansas stone to those sharp edges to dull the edges down
Thanks I'll try that. I keep forgetting about it until I have it holstered and then I remember. Not a bad idea though.
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Maybe jus put the same sights on both ur guns brotha lol pic ur favorite an there u go
Do you still have them big dot sights
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Man I had the same issue! I started aiming high on every other pistol. I got rid of them after I felt myself doing it. It's just so much easier to run like that.
I'm trying to keep it all 3 dot territory now. It's more to look at but it keeps you sharper overall.
Has anyone tried a big dot front with an appropriate 2 dot "u" notch rear ?
Always use same sight method on all your hand guns!!! Just saying
Can I have those blade sights
Man I gave them away to a viewer already
@@brockedandloaded6034 just seen how old vid lol thx n e way
Interesting concept. Thanks for sharing
I made the same mistake. The i dots are more accurate in my opinion
Thank you my friend!!👍🏻👌🏻
Get Ameriglow FBI Agent sights. You’ll love them bro
Looks like an operator error to us
Looks like you don't shoot much to me.
Sent the glock 19 sights too me my husband's is 72 he needs them we cannot afford 100 dollars for sights
I'd love to but I've already given them away to a subscriber on here in a giveaway I did. Thanks for watching though! Never know when ill give something else away
If you haven't already and you're still planning on giving away the big dot sights I have a Glock 23 edc gun they'd go great on.
Giving them away now. Check out my new video for how to win them!
You can by a file...
Is there any nice Quality budget night sights for glocks out there?
Sure. Night Fision and Ameriglo (my other video) are pretty good options. I'm definitely an Ameriglo fan.
Brocked and Loaded thanks!
This sounds like a no brainer issue, how would that not come to mind before you got 2 different sights? Lol 🤔
stektirade Because I'm dumb. Lol I should have thought of it before, but was to interested in how both sights worked
Brocked and Loaded lol it happens. But I tuned in cause I'm thinking about switching my glock factory sights to the hd and been trying to see what people think and whether to get the orange or yellow. It seems like the yellow is a bit brighter but the orange just contrasts well with backgrounds
stektirade Well thanks for watching man. TH-cam is an awesome source of info for us so we dont waste money. Is yours a carry gun? Because I'm looking at the Ameriglo UC sights right now. Pretty much exactly like the HDs, but 70ish dollars. And no sharp edge on the back. If you need any info about the HDs, just ask. The Orange IMO is better, because you're right. The Yellow/green tends to wash out just a tad in brightly lit backgrounds. The Orange is a natural contrast in dark and light.
Brocked and Loaded it's a 17. It's my range and basically defense gun. I just like the hds sight view.
stektirade gotcha. Well, if money's an issue, check out those Ameriglos. My buddy has them and it's literally the same front sight even trijicon vials, says trijicon on the side, and same sight picture. I was standing there thinking why the hell did I pay 50 bucks more for the HDs? Lol
This is wrong thinking. Be a student of weapon craft in general. What if you have to use a “battlefield pickup” one day? Are you going to cry because it doesn’t have your favorite sights on it? Marksmanship fundamentals are what matters most. You should be combat accurate with any type of sights.
That's funny, because "combat accurate" was never my goal. Supreme accuracy and speed is. I'm perfectly fine picking up a dirty AK and getting hits at 300 yards. We're talking about splitting the hair here. If I'm buying guns, there's really no reason if I'm going to be shooting then a lot to have different sight systems on them for no reason. Doesn't mean i can't use them. Just means I want to be faster.
This is stupid. It's like, once you learn how to drive a stick shift you always know how to drive a stick shift. I can continue with the same analogy, but I got to get back to work.
Not really. You can choose to believe that if you want, but we are talking about higher level function here. Not going to an indoor range an punching holes in paper. Split times. Training with a gun is a perishable skill. Much like when I get in my truck with a console shifter and reach for the lever on the steering column after driving a forklift all day, you're good at what you get used to.
@@brockedandloaded6034 That's a logic with excuses. I don't want to hear it. That's like me saying...I patrol all day long in my patrol car at work and when I get on my motorcycle to ride home blah blah yadayada blah blah. Excuses. Yeah, I'm talking smack. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?
@@SAVAGE308SNIPER internet fight or real life fight? I'm down for the interwebs but I rarely leave my mom's basement long enough to learn things about firearms 🤣
@@brockedandloaded6034 Well, fuck me sideways and call me a bitch!
Put the standard on the 19 and the big dot in the 17 problem solved.
How does that solve the problem? I don't want my competition gun or carry gun to be slower. I changed out the sights on my g19 to ameriglo, basically the same.
Hey man If you decide to sell them big dots let me know maybe we could work something up. Good video
ShotgunMikey81 Sure. Ive got a couple other things Ive gotta get before I change out the sights, but Ill let you know when I do.
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Trijicon tough and bright broseph check em out
Anybody know where I️ can pick up some Trijicon hd sights for under retail??
Cesar Robles almost everywhere I've seen they are $141. I'd wait until black Friday and there will be somewhere that has a 20% off everything or something.
Optics Planet
i use ameriglo ghost rings on every glock