I had a Hornet out for a two hour demo ride on Monday and was very impressed, I was considering it as my new commuter but it's so much more than that, the best description I can give it is like an MT-07 that handles with a host of electronic goodies and a far superior finish, I thought I'd discovered a problem as it seemed a bit jerky in town traffic but discovered that the engine braking was set high, after dialling it down the fuelling was perfect, IMO the new budget middleweight king.
One of the reasons I enjoy your reviews is you raise points I haven't seen before. I always thought the handlebars/dash area looked odd but couldn't put my finger on what looked off. It looks barren and the bars too thin. Now that you said it it's all I can see. I don't like the exhaust but love that SC Project aftermarket pipe. What a difference it makes.
Thank You, as always very good review and great content on your channel, Really looking forward to the arrival of the ALP.like the little touch at the end🤣🤣🤣 Kind regards and best wishes from Ireland ☘🍀 Tony.
Nice review 👍 I agree about the look, uninspiring. I hope they make a nice looking neo-retro style bike with that engine. Something like the XSR 900, retro style with all the modern technology.
Excellent review, tutorial, and commentary. I'm definately intrigued by the Hornet and Transalp. Such cool new additions to the Honda lineup. Thanks for sharing 👍
I'm looking forward to seeing my neighbour's new Hornet which is arriving from Portimao at the weekend...he said the engine was fantastic and he's a small guy so the size isn't a problem. P.S. Your ChatGPT test was super, thanks.
@@robbbbb8912 i am also in Sweden (Göteborg) which motorcycle did you choose? I like the specs on the honda but it looks so damn boring 😭 even though it is a beast inside. I want a looker. I am in between the hornet and the special edition trident tribute. 🤦🏻♂️
Everyone says it's a good bike for beginners. I have one and I don't think so. Despite having "only" 91hp it is quite powerful for beginners. But it's addictive ☺️ Ride safe ✌️
i've only been riding *seriously* for about 18 months, having covered 10k miles so would class myself as a beginner, however i'm shortly be going to buy one as i believe that it's all the bike i'm ever likely to need. I have lifelong biker friends who all seem to say that whatever you get it's all about how you use the right hand, and when i asked my instructor wether he thought something like this may be more than i could handle, & should i start smaller, he basically said that you have a full licence dont you?, so buy what you want, it's all down to your attitude. I'm 62 and no boy racer so hopefully i'll be fine, and won't be wondering 'what if'. cheers.
@@johnflavin1602 yes, sure did, got a new one registered 1st march and covered about 2,300 miles now, and well happy with it, it's so nimble, easy to ride in traffic, and when the opportunity arises the accelleration is phenomenal, all the torque is useable and low down where you want it. i've added quite a few accessories to make it suit myself & my riding, and long distances aint a problem, such as i did 498 miles in 2 days last week taking in the northumberland 250 on a mixture of roads and it was great. There's a few minor niggles i have, but no show stoppers, and If you have any questions please post them and i'll do my best to answer. GL
Great review, mines on order and really excited for delivery soon (I'm only 5'9" so size not an issue) Keep up the always interesting stuff. And BTW I totally agree with your comments about the NT1100 and this is from a man who owns a NC750X DCT (2021) and yes I am keeping that too
I've gone for the Black, though it was a toss up between grey and white but the yellow. I agree with you about the forks though, should be black or grey. I've ordered mine with the quick shifter and heated grips, may get the screen too, though that looks pretty it is a bit small. Looking forward to your review of the Transalp, never know I may swap the NC for that. You see the Hornet is supposed to be for my wife. But it was "chosen" for her. as her cb1300 is getting a bit too big for the use it gets. But that is a great bike and we will miss it
Absolutely love the comment at 9:37 :D :D Excellent review btw! Ordered this in yellow-black with a free sports and style package! Though I will go for another aftermarket exhaust, the Ixil dual RB (black) looks and sounds like a beast.
Its interesting to see how far ai has come already. About the questions at the end of the video, im guessing because you asked "the new honda" it correlated that to "knowing" it is the newly released bike. At the moment it is also impossible for chatgpt to browse the internet, as it was trained with a closed data set. So that could be why it was such a general review, simply because the hornet is not in its database. Great video btw :)
At 5’ 8” this bike is perfect for me and far as looks go I love it, I’m getting mine in black with a quick shifter. Good thing we don’t all like the same. Thanks for another interesting video 🏍👍
If you're 5'8", then yes, this is the bike for you. I saw the black version in the showroom and it did look very nice! When are you expecting delivery?
chat GPT has no access to up to date info as it has no real time internet access, it draws its info from pre 2021 information. anything relating to something recent is basically a guess 🙂 hope that explains a few of the inconsistencies. it does usually say something above the answer it gives. interesting comparison 🙂 enjoy the ride
@@RocketMan_Moto no problem, been doing quite a lot of testing with it, partner even has it writing code lol its good at some things already and as you say it will only get better. It is funny that grammatically it already writes better than most people can :-)🤣🤣🤣
Looks a great bike for the money. Good colour scheme. I’d like to have a go on one. I’m a shortie so it should fit me fine. A Rocket Boy bot. Heavens above!
I think the Hornet looks pretty good overall. My only major gripes with it is Honda's extreme penny-pinching in not having included a rear hugger/mudguard or screw holes for paddock stand bobbins.
Just chanced upon your channel RM. I really like your BS-free review of this new Honda. I've had an MT07 and this wee Honda might be something to check out. Subbed.
Thanks, Anthony. It certainly is worth a test ride, surprisingly beefy engine. You might also like the comparison with the Trident that I've just posted :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Cheers for the reply RM. Just checked that video out. Will see if I can grab a test ride here in Bangkok. Not even sure if they're available here yet. The Triumph is here, but haven't seen any Hornets yet.
Thanks for the review. Indeed the engine also for me is the most interesting thing in this motorcycle, since I've also ordered a Transalp. Hope Honda will respect the delivery date. Cheers, V.
Really Great review, very helpful. As a short arse, I don’t suffer from the same height restrictions you do. My beloved 2023 CB500X’s days are numbered, I can’t stretch to a Transalp so the Hornet is perfect for my needs. Off to the dealer tomorrow to crunch some numbers 🐝
Very nice review. I gained a new perspective of the motorcycleI over the other reviews I had watched, and that was valuable. I increasingly see a space in my garage for the Hornet or the Transalp, and my final decision will be based on the test rides when the models become available for test in my part of Central Europe.
Seems really promising, guess we'll see how the Transalp is as I'm 6'2! I would also be interested if the 750 or 1100 engine was put in a CL style scrambler.
A good all round review. I had one out on demo a few days ago and I also felt the front end a bit bare and the rake of the forks pretty steep. I’m 5’6 with a short 29 in leg so it fitted me well. A fun bike for a weekend ride, it just looks a bit boring. Ride safe.
I'm in somewhat similar shoes: also ordered the Transalp blindly:). This means that I will swap my beloved 2022 CB500X, but I just couldn't resist to that new engine. And I also sat on the Hornet 750, however, I felt that seating position was spot on for my 181 cm frame...so average sized rides don't need to shy away if they like the bike otherwise :)
I wonder. Look at the cb500x to CB500f transformation, and I can see Honda doing exactly the same with the Hornet. CB750f? Yes please. Perhaps what you noticed missing off the front is the half fairing waiting in the wings. That engine, with the fairing, flat seat, 19 inch [ cast tubeless front ] ,the rest is there. As for A.I., I feel the same way as I do when I get a chatbot when I really want a real person.. Enough said. Safe, happy travels 👍
Came across as a good honest review RM, pleased you found the engine was more than agreeable, as that's always the starting point for me. Over the front wheel position,(love the overlay graphic haha) is common among modern street bikes, as early as the kawa Z1000 circa 2004, and even Honda's cb 1000r of 2009 vintage. Excellent feeler for the transalp. 😊Ps Marked you a serious for the Stop line.
It reminds me of the bland CB500F. I like a bare, uncluttered view from the cockpit. I'm fractionally over 6'/1.85 m but only have a 32'' inside leg, so I bet I'd fit. I don't really like its looks, but if I was looking for a 'big' bike in Thailand, I'd consider this. I don't buy aftermarket exhausts, either. Only ever bought one. Really good TFT. Not cluttered at all. Portimao: I thought I recognised the area across the river before I saw the dealer later in the video.
@@RocketMan_Moto Where are they now? I wasn't thrown at all. I recognised some landmark. I need to go to Angel Pilot to get my Can-Am F3-S serviced when I get back to Lagos in mid-May. It's booked in.
yes, as per usual we agree on most points , for me a 7 inch round headlight would make the front end look more substantial rather than the the horrid squashed insect look ,, ,, but i hate the idea of a quickshift , why bother to ride if you can't be arsed to change gear ;;; , good review ;;
I would certainly take exception to the semicolon use in the first paragraph. I got that empty in front feel when I rode the CB650R - like falling off a cliff. I bought that and adapted to it in no time. I didn't get that feeling from the Hornet at all; I test rode it prior to ordering one (correct use of ;). A comma should have been used in the AI spiel. Please continue to be critical of bikes that you don't get on with. If people get offended, that's down to them.
Interesting review. I may well consider this as a second fun bike to compliment my Tracer 9GT in the future. As you say, looks are subjective - I saw a yellow one at my local dealer, it looked awful! The headlight and exhaust don't look good but I think the white or black with the red frame look great. The engine sounds impressive. The bottom line is that it's a lot of bike for the money.
Thanks for the review. Great and useful as usual. So you think this bike is too powerful for a beginner. Don't you think over confidence is the real problem ? And forget about chatGPT and enjoy the ride . Thanks a lot for the review. Wish you the best.
Great review, I totally agree that the most significant shortcoming is the styling - especially the headlamp. Honda could have adopted the CB650R/CB1000R styling instead of the CB500F which is neither classical nor bold/fashionable. I'm sure the chatGPT uses crawlers (code that sweeps thousands of web pages to collect info) in order to build its responses - that explains the bland press phrasing. You are a content creator, so you should be safe for decades to come - no PC will match one's creativity and intangible savyness (if that's an English word) and there's also the voice and cadence which would be really hard or at least very expensive to replicate. Not that you asked my opinion, but I would argue a starting rider (especially a young one) should not go above A2-compliant motorcycles for at least two years. I have a different opinion regarding first cars because usually more expensive/powerful ones offer better safety, but with motorcycles, apart from ABS (present in all new motorcycles) you don't get any protection aside from what you wear. Cheers
Thanks for your feedback and support :) I agree about A2 riders - I passed my test just before this scheme was introduced and went straight out and bought a 125hp Street Triple RS! With hindsight, it was NOT the best way to learn road craft. But I survived :)
I think your channel benefits alot of your calm deep voice! Channel could be also called radioman ;) but for sure they will introduce more charismatic ai voices at some point in time :D
The one I would go for, is obvious. 😉 But the question is how does the Hornet effect the CB650R? Neither the Hornet or the Trans Alp have showed up on Honda Canada's website (as expected), as the only new bikes they've brought into Canada are under powered (Navi, Giorno, Trail, XR150L).
Hi RM. 62 yes old, just passed my mot bike test. Thinking of a Honda ADV scooter, cb500f, kawa 650rs or hornet. Can't get first 2 this year I'm told. Will do 20 miles a day throughout the year with a once or twice 60 mile journey into London. Would love your views on any of these bikes. Thanks
You’re only a couple of years older than me. The ADV is great for the 20-mile commute, but the Hornet would be too, with the added advantage of being able to tackle longer trips, should the fancy take you. The CB500F is a bit placid, imo, even compared to the ADV. Never ridden the 650RS.
@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks. Do you mean the hornet is better at longer journeys? Lack of winter protection and screen, do you think it's the better option? Thanks again
Rather compare the looks and seated possition to a MT07 or a KTM Duke 790/890r/990. I justed tested one and was pleasenly supprised, some have told me it was a bit dull, but I enjoyed my time with this.
The best thing about ChatGPT in that passage was its correct use of the apostrophe, a punctuation mark which many humans (not you, Rocket) consistently misuse. So there is something to be said for AI, after all.
With you there! Why is it that every word in the English language ending in an 's' now seems to attract an apostrophe? Whatever happened to plural's! (Oops! 🤭)
@@RocketMan_Moto My friend Colin lives in France on a smallholding and he has a well. Whenever he gets an email that says "Dear Colin, I hope your well", he replies "You hope my well is what?"
The Hornet says to me that Honda is finally responding to the spec sheet warriors. The CB1000R needed to be more popular than it was, but it didn't hit the huge numbers that other bikes in the price class did. This is great on a spec sheet, but it feels like there's a couple areas that got very cheap looking compared to what I'm used to from Honda.
Write a very brief summary of new honda hornet in the style of donald trump... Well folks, let me tell you about the new Honda Hornet. It's tremendous, really fantastic. It's got a sleek design that's gonna turn heads, let me tell you. And the engine? Oh boy, it's a powerhouse. This thing can really fly. Plus, it's got all the latest tech features. It's gonna make your head spin. So if you want to ride like a champion, you gotta get yourself a Honda Hornet. Believe me, nobody knows bikes better than me.
Ola RocketMan, como sempre uma review honesta, mas 750cc? 755cc o que em Portugal faz muita diferença, já a vi, será uma cb500f com esteroides é o que acho, mas, estou á espera de ver a transalp ao vivo e a cores outra com esteroides da cb500x, mas com + três mil euros + em cima, pois, justifica? saberemos em breve!
Up until recently I thought Triumph had the corner on the parallel twin sound but I’m seeing more and more Japanese bikes doing a good job at it. Agree?
I wish honda could use this motor to build a comfortable fuel efficient new VFR 750 with a big 6 gallon fuel tank (like the vfr800 had), cruise control, heated grips and a usb charger.
Excellent review. Rocketman rules. ChatGPT stinks.I've myself test ridden this Hornet yesterday and found it without any defect. I'm short and probably weight less than you, so I found both the riding position and the setup of the suspension perfect for me. Unlike you, I did not like the shifter which I haven't found smooth enough. Just the opposite of the clutch and gearbox which are butter smooth.
Haha, thanks. The QS is good for a quick shifter, but I don't think it will ever be as smooth as actually operating the clutch yourself. I think it also depends on which rider mode you're using; I noticed quite a difference.
@@RocketMan_Moto Sport mode all the time. Therefore no way for me to notice any difference between modes. And yes, I also think that this 750cc engine will be perfect on the Transalp. So congratulations for your excellent choice.
The QS sensitivity on the Hornet can be adjusted. I think it relates only to the pressure you make on the lever, so not sure if it would solve your problem. 🙄
I'm 6 foot tall and had a CB300R which is even smaller than the Hornet. It didn't feel small in the cockpit though. It had the same "nothing in front of you" feeling, same as my current bike, Vitpilen 401. Unlike the CB, the Vit doesn't have a split seat so I can move back.
Thanks for the review RM. Agree with all you say; super vfm but let down by staid and conservative looks from the Big H. Had this bike been more interesting to look at (perhaps along the lines of their CB650, then it could well have been bingo for them. It probably will be anyway; I think the sheer ability and bang for your buck will dicrithst.
ChatGPT can't review a bike until it can ride a bike, otherwise it's just parroting other peoples' reviews. I felt the same way about the Trident; that there was nothing in front of me when I sat on it. I'm really looking forward to the TransAlp reviews.
Looks like the current Honda cb125f. They tried the family look across the range and ended up devaluing the CB900 by making it look like a 250 Superdream.
@@RocketMan_Moto i love that short tail on the 650r. that and a round headlamp cluster would make this hornet perfect. so much nostalogia on that name and they had to ruin it
Ish ? Why do many people use the term or expression of “ish” so much ? Smallish ? What about Scottish, Irish = not fully ? Or just round a bout ? Please explain, thanks.
Good question. Smallish and Danish, as you might think, are not connected and come from two distinct sources. This article will help: www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2009/01/an-ish-out-of-water.html
Not a HUGE fan of yellow anything, but the yellow one does look pretty cool. I currently have a black CB500F and it's great to zip around town. At 37, I'm not trying to be Valentino out there. I'm more amused by running errands with my top box and getting 60mpg while parking on the sidewalk.
Usual Honda bike, unusual Honda pricing, which is good for us. ChatGPT not ready to take over just yet, although seem to be getting more and more YT review channels with that mechanical voice reading out AI generated content which is obvious for now.
In order: Looks awful, the headlight is a thing for a shame bag (whatever that is!). Red forks look cheapo - v nasty; Switches look v good - liley. Sat on one at Brum, Brum show. I thought it was perfect for me: bars, seat, pegs, everything. I'm quite short at 5ft 8, or in metric, 1.3 Napoleons: The looks over the bars not as extreme as the CB650R - that you said you liked! - You're just too tall for the bike methinks. Which is great! It will suit me perfectly...and lots of women riders....Hurrah! (your wife confirms this truth); 90.5 hp, less than the CB but, as you say, lower max torque - V Gud!; The shorter diameter tyre is a total irrelevance. Good on Honda for doing it. Tyres more important and they're probably the best. Which is great; Reviewers never give a bike less than the beans; TFT looks, and is, one of the best; Please don't dwell on morons who express themselves in immoderate (moronic) ways. They are (almost) universally despised and always ignored; It's not a beginner bike. It's....whatever bhp it has...about 3 less than an Africa Twin for ....goodness sake. It's also light. The CB650 does nothing much up to 7,000 rpm. The fastest I've ridden is !30mph. It scared me. I thought you were AI for the first 2 years. But, I'm a forgiving soul.
@@RocketMan_Moto I know. These new crop of nakeds are light because there’s not a lot of stuff such as fairings, racks and stuff added on. If you want stuff, you get extra weight.
Like you I'm 6'2" and it's a pain, yes I'd fit more naturally on a Transalp but aging hips disagree and at an extra £2,000 it's hard to see where that extra has been spent. The Hornet i borrowed had an obnoxiously loud AR Racing straight through system but laws, neighbours and eardrums not withstanding, it sounded glorious. The package did rather feel like a £7,000 engine with a £500 spent on the rest of the bike but i could live with that i think. Quite possibly the nearest thing Honda has produced to a KTM and that's no mean achievement for the worlds most sensible manufacturer. th-cam.com/video/8lYm3sDQDYA/w-d-xo.html
A world were people work menial jobs that don't pay for the basic necessities of life, while AI writes poetry and paints art is not the future that I was hoping for. What's it gunna do next? Ask it too ride a bike in the style of Rossi or Doohan, and then it rides the bike like me? Yeah nah. Keep it real.
I just can’t ride Hondas anymore. I find the build quality has dropped through the floor. Not even sure which models are built in Japan anymore. This bike is just woeful for styling too. The power seems good though.
Would love this hornet motor in a classic 80s style honda with half fairing. This new wasp insect look today lacks character. Honda desperately need new design guru's, less plastics and a return to analog speedo and Rev counter. Worth noting Rolex DON'T make digital watches.
That is a rather dull bike, I think it will date very quickly. What is its purpose apart from being a naked motorcycle? Tourer - no, Commuter - yes but so many better bikes, even Hondas own CB500, Track Day Tool - no, Cruiser - if you like? It is just..... "a motorbike".
hey...its a kymco visar 125 or any other like those. Awfull and uninspiring... from one of the best motorcycle brands around. try the new 765 triple :D :D for 3k more it should make all the difference in the world.
I don’t understand why the Transalp 750 costs 3000 euros more than the Hornet. It’s the same bike with fairing. This is all due to the hype of adventure bikes? 😢 You bought the Transalp, have you asked Honda what’s the differences? How do you feel about that. You could make a rant video on the topic 😅
Marketing. Basically, Honda will sell the Transalp for as much as they can get away with, and as adventure riders tend to have more disposable income than urban roadster riders... That said, BMW do exactly the same thing with the F900R & XR.
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So that’s who writes for mcn
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I had a Hornet out for a two hour demo ride on Monday and was very impressed, I was considering it as my new commuter but it's so much more than that, the best description I can give it is like an MT-07 that handles with a host of electronic goodies and a far superior finish, I thought I'd discovered a problem as it seemed a bit jerky in town traffic but discovered that the engine braking was set high, after dialling it down the fuelling was perfect, IMO the new budget middleweight king.
Good choice! Yes, I also found you do need to play around with the quick shifter and engine braking settings a bit
Always enjoy your thorough and calming reviews. It's a pleasure to watch and listen.
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement :)
Short, concise, entertaining, I need not bother with any other reviews. Thanks
Thank you, as ever :)
One of the reasons I enjoy your reviews is you raise points I haven't seen before. I always thought the handlebars/dash area looked odd but couldn't put my finger on what looked off. It looks barren and the bars too thin. Now that you said it it's all I can see.
I don't like the exhaust but love that SC Project aftermarket pipe. What a difference it makes.
Thanks😊 Yes, the front end does look odd when you first get on. Something I was not expecting.
Thank You, as always very good review and great content on your channel, Really looking forward to the arrival of the ALP.like the little touch at the end🤣🤣🤣 Kind regards and best wishes from Ireland ☘🍀 Tony.
Thanks, Tony. Not many people stick around until the very end, so I put in a little test to weed out the real fans :)
Nice review 👍
I agree about the look, uninspiring. I hope they make a nice looking neo-retro style bike with that engine. Something like the XSR 900, retro style with all the modern technology.
That would be great. I'm sure we'll be seeing other iterations of this platform very soon.
Excellent review, tutorial, and commentary. I'm definately intrigued by the Hornet and Transalp. Such cool new additions to the Honda lineup. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for your feedback. Two bikes definitely worth considering :)
I love each time your sense of humour.
Thanks :)
Great review! Can’t wait to hear your review of the Transalp!
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I'm looking forward to seeing my neighbour's new Hornet which is arriving from Portimao at the weekend...he said the engine was fantastic and he's a small guy so the size isn't a problem. P.S. Your ChatGPT test was super, thanks.
Are you good enough friends for him to let you have a go on it? :)
I love your channel good storytelling and pretty relaxing 👍🇸🇪
Thanks, Rob. Glad you enjoy it :)
@@robbbbb8912 i am also in Sweden (Göteborg) which motorcycle did you choose? I like the specs on the honda but it looks so damn boring 😭 even though it is a beast inside. I want a looker. I am in between the hornet and the special edition trident tribute. 🤦🏻♂️
Everyone says it's a good bike for beginners. I have one and I don't think so. Despite having "only" 91hp it is quite powerful for beginners. But it's addictive ☺️ Ride safe ✌️
I agree, a fair bit of power there for beginners. Enjoy :)
i've only been riding *seriously* for about 18 months, having covered 10k miles so would class myself as a beginner, however i'm shortly be going to buy one as i believe that it's all the bike i'm ever likely to need. I have lifelong biker friends who all seem to say that whatever you get it's all about how you use the right hand, and when i asked my instructor wether he thought something like this may be more than i could handle, & should i start smaller, he basically said that you have a full licence dont you?, so buy what you want, it's all down to your attitude. I'm 62 and no boy racer so hopefully i'll be fine, and won't be wondering 'what if'. cheers.
@@Bob-ts2tuDid you buy the Hornet yet?
@@johnflavin1602 yes, sure did, got a new one registered 1st march and covered about 2,300 miles now, and well happy with it, it's so nimble, easy to ride in traffic, and when the opportunity arises the accelleration is phenomenal, all the torque is useable and low down where you want it. i've added quite a few accessories to make it suit myself & my riding, and long distances aint a problem, such as i did 498 miles in 2 days last week taking in the northumberland 250 on a mixture of roads and it was great. There's a few minor niggles i have, but no show stoppers, and If you have any questions please post them and i'll do my best to answer. GL
Great review, mines on order and really excited for delivery soon (I'm only 5'9" so size not an issue)
Keep up the always interesting stuff. And BTW I totally agree with your comments about the NT1100 and this is from a man who owns a NC750X DCT (2021) and yes I am keeping that too
Thank you. I much prefer the NC750 over the NT1100. Enjoy your Hornet, 5'9" is perfect. Which colour have you gone for?
I've gone for the Black, though it was a toss up between grey and white but the yellow. I agree with you about the forks though, should be black or grey. I've ordered mine with the quick shifter and heated grips, may get the screen too, though that looks pretty it is a bit small.
Looking forward to your review of the Transalp, never know I may swap the NC for that. You see the Hornet is supposed to be for my wife. But it was "chosen" for her. as her cb1300 is getting a bit too big for the use it gets. But that is a great bike and we will miss it
Sounds good. I like the Hornet in black👍
Absolutely love the comment at 9:37 :D :D Excellent review btw! Ordered this in yellow-black with a free sports and style package! Though I will go for another aftermarket exhaust, the Ixil dual RB (black) looks and sounds like a beast.
Great bike. Enjoy👍😊
Its interesting to see how far ai has come already. About the questions at the end of the video, im guessing because you asked "the new honda" it correlated that to "knowing" it is the newly released bike. At the moment it is also impossible for chatgpt to browse the internet, as it was trained with a closed data set. So that could be why it was such a general review, simply because the hornet is not in its database.
Great video btw :)
Thanks. You could well be right, but as you say, it's only a matter of time before it begins 'expanding' à la Skynet!
At 5’ 8” this bike is perfect for me and far as looks go I love it, I’m getting mine in black with a quick shifter. Good thing we don’t all like the same. Thanks for another interesting video 🏍👍
If you're 5'8", then yes, this is the bike for you. I saw the black version in the showroom and it did look very nice! When are you expecting delivery?
@@RocketMan_Moto Should be around 10th March
Fantastic. Enjoy! Btw, I would probably go with the black, if I were getting the Hornet, if only to avoid those odd red forks :)
chat GPT has no access to up to date info as it has no real time internet access, it draws its info from pre 2021 information. anything relating to something recent is basically a guess 🙂 hope that explains a few of the inconsistencies. it does usually say something above the answer it gives. interesting comparison 🙂 enjoy the ride
Thanks for that info. In that case, it made a pretty good attempt at reviewing something it had no real information on!
@@RocketMan_Moto no problem, been doing quite a lot of testing with it, partner even has it writing code lol its good at some things already and as you say it will only get better. It is funny that grammatically it already writes better than most people can :-)🤣🤣🤣
Looks a great bike for the money. Good colour scheme. I’d like to have a go on one. I’m a shortie so it should fit me fine.
A Rocket Boy bot. Heavens above!
Definitely worth a test ride👍😊
I think the Hornet looks pretty good overall. My only major gripes with it is Honda's extreme penny-pinching in not having included a rear hugger/mudguard or screw holes for paddock stand bobbins.
Yes, annoying🙁
Just chanced upon your channel RM. I really like your BS-free review of this new Honda. I've had an MT07 and this wee Honda might be something to check out. Subbed.
Thanks, Anthony. It certainly is worth a test ride, surprisingly beefy engine. You might also like the comparison with the Trident that I've just posted :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Cheers for the reply RM. Just checked that video out. Will see if I can grab a test ride here in Bangkok. Not even sure if they're available here yet. The Triumph is here, but haven't seen any Hornets yet.
We tend to get Hondas here in Europe before anyone else, for some reason
Heyo, I've been waiting for this
Hope you enjoyed it :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I did. Honestly it made me happy to have gotten the Tiger 660. Now if only they could give that bike 15- 20 more horsepower...
Thanks for the review. Indeed the engine also for me is the most interesting thing in this motorcycle, since I've also ordered a Transalp. Hope Honda will respect the delivery date.
Cheers, V.
The engine is very good! Re. delivery date on the Transalp, I fear it could be May now :(
Really Great review, very helpful. As a short arse, I don’t suffer from the same height restrictions you do. My beloved 2023 CB500X’s days are numbered, I can’t stretch to a Transalp so the Hornet is perfect for my needs. Off to the dealer tomorrow to crunch some numbers 🐝
Thanks, glad you found it useful. The Hornet is more fun to ride than the Transalp👍😊
Very nice review. I gained a new perspective of the motorcycleI over the other reviews I had watched, and that was valuable. I increasingly see a space in my garage for the Hornet or the Transalp, and my final decision will be based on the test rides when the models become available for test in my part of Central Europe.
Thank you. The Hornet is available pretty much everywhere now, but I don't think we'll be seeing the Transalp until mid-April at the earliest.
Seems really promising, guess we'll see how the Transalp is as I'm 6'2! I would also be interested if the 750 or 1100 engine was put in a CL style scrambler.
Agreed - a CL750 scrambler would be fantastic
How about a roomier retro CB750! I'm 6'2 also
@@steveparish9210 yep i wouldn't mind a hawk 75
Looking forward to your transalp review.
I'll be sure to post a video as soon as it arrives :)
A good all round review. I had one out on demo a few days ago and I also felt the front end a bit bare and the rake of the forks pretty steep. I’m 5’6 with a short 29 in leg so it fitted me well. A fun bike for a weekend ride, it just looks a bit boring. Ride safe.
I agree on the looks and the empty front end - pity - but the engine is sweet :)
I'm in somewhat similar shoes: also ordered the Transalp blindly:). This means that I will swap my beloved 2022 CB500X, but I just couldn't resist to that new engine.
And I also sat on the Hornet 750, however, I felt that seating position was spot on for my 181 cm frame...so average sized rides don't need to shy away if they like the bike otherwise :)
A CB500X+. That’s just what I’m looking for🙏
I wonder.
Look at the cb500x to CB500f transformation, and I can see Honda doing exactly the same with the Hornet. CB750f? Yes please.
Perhaps what you noticed missing off the front is the half fairing waiting in the wings.
That engine, with the fairing, flat seat, 19 inch [ cast tubeless front ] ,the rest is there.
As for A.I., I feel the same way as I do when I get a chatbot when I really want a real person.. Enough said.
Safe, happy travels 👍
I'm sure there are a couple of other models in the pipeline: 750F, 750R...
Came across as a good honest review RM, pleased you found the engine was more than agreeable, as that's always the starting point for me.
Over the front wheel position,(love the overlay graphic haha) is common among modern street bikes, as early as the kawa Z1000 circa 2004, and even Honda's cb 1000r of 2009 vintage.
Excellent feeler for the transalp. 😊Ps Marked you a serious for the Stop line.
Thanks for your feedback, Graham. Stop lines are seen as optional in Portugal😊
Another good review
Another nice comment😊
It reminds me of the bland CB500F. I like a bare, uncluttered view from the cockpit. I'm fractionally over 6'/1.85 m but only have a 32'' inside leg, so I bet I'd fit. I don't really like its looks, but if I was looking for a 'big' bike in Thailand, I'd consider this. I don't buy aftermarket exhausts, either. Only ever bought one. Really good TFT. Not cluttered at all. Portimao: I thought I recognised the area across the river before I saw the dealer later in the video.
Yes, great clock. I'm in no rush to change the exhaust. Re. Angel Pilot, they recently moved premises, so maybe that's what threw you.
@@RocketMan_Moto Where are they now? I wasn't thrown at all. I recognised some landmark. I need to go to Angel Pilot to get my Can-Am F3-S serviced when I get back to Lagos in mid-May. It's booked in.
yes, as per usual we agree on most points , for me a 7 inch round headlight would make the front end look more substantial rather than the the horrid squashed insect look ,, ,, but i hate the idea of a quickshift , why bother to ride if you can't be arsed to change gear ;;; , good review ;;
I agree that a nicer headlight would smarten things up no end. I love quick shifters, sorry😀
I would certainly take exception to the semicolon use in the first paragraph. I got that empty in front feel when I rode the CB650R - like falling off a cliff. I bought that and adapted to it in no time. I didn't get that feeling from the Hornet at all; I test rode it prior to ordering one (correct use of ;). A comma should have been used in the AI spiel. Please continue to be critical of bikes that you don't get on with. If people get offended, that's down to them.
Will do. Thanks for your support😊
Interesting review. I may well consider this as a second fun bike to compliment my Tracer 9GT in the future. As you say, looks are subjective - I saw a yellow one at my local dealer, it looked awful! The headlight and exhaust don't look good but I think the white or black with the red frame look great. The engine sounds impressive. The bottom line is that it's a lot of bike for the money.
Agreed, very competitive price👍
Thanks for the review. Great and useful as usual. So you think this bike is too powerful for a beginner. Don't you think over confidence is the real problem ? And forget about chatGPT and enjoy the ride . Thanks a lot for the review. Wish you the best.
Merci, Pierre :)
Great review, I totally agree that the most significant shortcoming is the styling - especially the headlamp. Honda could have adopted the CB650R/CB1000R styling instead of the CB500F which is neither classical nor bold/fashionable.
I'm sure the chatGPT uses crawlers (code that sweeps thousands of web pages to collect info) in order to build its responses - that explains the bland press phrasing.
You are a content creator, so you should be safe for decades to come - no PC will match one's creativity and intangible savyness (if that's an English word) and there's also the voice and cadence which would be really hard or at least very expensive to replicate.
Not that you asked my opinion, but I would argue a starting rider (especially a young one) should not go above A2-compliant motorcycles for at least two years. I have a different opinion regarding first cars because usually more expensive/powerful ones offer better safety, but with motorcycles, apart from ABS (present in all new motorcycles) you don't get any protection aside from what you wear.
Cheers
Thanks for your feedback and support :) I agree about A2 riders - I passed my test just before this scheme was introduced and went straight out and bought a 125hp Street Triple RS! With hindsight, it was NOT the best way to learn road craft. But I survived :)
Totally agree about colour scheme.....but I like the bland styling....for a commuter
For a commuter, it's ideal
I think your channel benefits alot of your calm deep voice! Channel could be also called radioman ;) but for sure they will introduce more charismatic ai voices at some point in time :D
Haha, thank you. Glad you appreciate my voice, it's the only one I have :)
The one I would go for, is obvious. 😉 But the question is how does the Hornet effect the CB650R? Neither the Hornet or the Trans Alp have showed up on Honda Canada's website (as expected), as the only new bikes they've brought into Canada are under powered (Navi, Giorno, Trail, XR150L).
The Hornet has more available torque than the 650, which needs revving to get the most out of it
Hi RM. 62 yes old, just passed my mot bike test. Thinking of a Honda ADV scooter, cb500f, kawa 650rs or hornet. Can't get first 2 this year I'm told. Will do 20 miles a day throughout the year with a once or twice 60 mile journey into London.
Would love your views on any of these bikes.
Thanks
You’re only a couple of years older than me. The ADV is great for the 20-mile commute, but the Hornet would be too, with the added advantage of being able to tackle longer trips, should the fancy take you. The CB500F is a bit placid, imo, even compared to the ADV. Never ridden the 650RS.
@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks. Do you mean the hornet is better at longer journeys? Lack of winter protection and screen, do you think it's the better option? Thanks again
The ADV looks as though it will protect more than it actually does. The Forza 350 may be better for you.
Rather compare the looks and seated possition to a MT07 or a KTM Duke 790/890r/990. I justed tested one and was pleasenly supprised, some have told me it was a bit dull, but I enjoyed my time with this.
The Hornet is a fun bike
Would say it needs a screen... Maybe that skinny rear makes it easier to turn. 👍
Definitely, the narrow rear tyre does contribute to the dynamic handling. A fly screen would probably beef up the front a bit, yes👍
Would it be suitable for an older beginner (30s - 40s) who's disciplined enough to keep it in rain mode for the first riding season?
Absolutely 👍
The best thing about ChatGPT in that passage was its correct use of the apostrophe, a punctuation mark which many humans (not you, Rocket) consistently misuse. So there is something to be said for AI, after all.
Yes, as a linguist, I have to say I was impressed by the flawless grammar and punctuation.
With you there! Why is it that every word in the English language ending in an 's' now seems to attract an apostrophe? Whatever happened to plural's! (Oops! 🤭)
Haha, don't get me started. The number of times I see your/you're or their/they're/there misused..!
@@RocketMan_Moto My friend Colin lives in France on a smallholding and he has a well. Whenever he gets an email that says "Dear Colin, I hope your well", he replies "You hope my well is what?"
The Hornet says to me that Honda is finally responding to the spec sheet warriors. The CB1000R needed to be more popular than it was, but it didn't hit the huge numbers that other bikes in the price class did. This is great on a spec sheet, but it feels like there's a couple areas that got very cheap looking compared to what I'm used to from Honda.
Thanks for your feedback😊👍
I'll travel to Portugal to grab a free quickshifter 😃
It was a one-week deal only, I’m afraid
@@RocketMan_Moto oh no !
Write a very brief summary of new honda hornet in the style of donald trump...
Well folks, let me tell you about the new Honda Hornet. It's tremendous, really fantastic. It's got a sleek design that's gonna turn heads, let me tell you. And the engine? Oh boy, it's a powerhouse. This thing can really fly. Plus, it's got all the latest tech features. It's gonna make your head spin. So if you want to ride like a champion, you gotta get yourself a Honda Hornet. Believe me, nobody knows bikes better than me.
Haha. A few more grammatical errors, or made up words, would have made it more convincing :)
Odd. I like the look if it particularly in the white and red.
Fair enough :)
Ola RocketMan, como sempre uma review honesta, mas 750cc? 755cc o que em Portugal faz muita diferença, já a vi, será uma cb500f com esteroides é o que acho, mas, estou á espera de ver a transalp ao vivo e a cores outra com esteroides da cb500x, mas com + três mil euros + em cima, pois, justifica? saberemos em breve!
I know: 755cc = higher IUC (road tax)😩
You have nothing to fear - there is only one Rocketman. 😉
Lol, thank you :)
Ooh!, besides Sir Elton John!
8.00 "reigned in"....what's the chances of a horse appearing😀....enjoyed your review...looks like a lot of bike for the money.
Lol, that is a pure, if very happy coincidence :)
Sounds like the best value for money on the market right now. Still wouldn't choose it over my trident.
It’s probably a better ride than the Trident, but it certainly doesn’t look as good
I’ll place my bets here: 2024 Hornet and Transalp with DCT.
Let's hope so. The greater the choice the better :)
Up until recently I thought Triumph had the corner on the parallel twin sound but I’m seeing more and more Japanese bikes doing a good job at it. Agree?
Yes, the Hornet makes a great sound. No induction roar like you get with the triples, though…
@@RocketMan_Moto enter Aprilia…
I wish honda could use this motor to build a comfortable fuel efficient new VFR 750 with a big 6 gallon fuel tank (like the vfr800 had), cruise control, heated grips and a usb charger.
You never know... I believe Honda has a few more model variations up their sleeve
Odd my CB500F has a 17 litre Tank
& this 750 only Gets 15 litres
But for £6,999 in the UK its
Great Value
Yes. The cheapest is now also the best😀
Ok, we’re almost there. Now Honda, just put the 1100 in that frame and I’ll be running to the dealer.
Make it a 2 litre, please😬
An interesting twist.
Glad you enjoyed it :)
What a great idea to compare with a chat bot
Thanks :)
Excellent review. Rocketman rules. ChatGPT stinks.I've myself test ridden this Hornet yesterday and found it without any defect. I'm short and probably weight less than you, so I found both the riding position and the setup of the suspension perfect for me. Unlike you, I did not like the shifter which I haven't found smooth enough. Just the opposite of the clutch and gearbox which are butter smooth.
Haha, thanks. The QS is good for a quick shifter, but I don't think it will ever be as smooth as actually operating the clutch yourself. I think it also depends on which rider mode you're using; I noticed quite a difference.
@@RocketMan_Moto Sport mode all the time. Therefore no way for me to notice any difference between modes. And yes, I also think that this 750cc engine will be perfect on the Transalp. So congratulations for your excellent choice.
The QS sensitivity on the Hornet can be adjusted. I think it relates only to the pressure you make on the lever, so not sure if it would solve your problem. 🙄
I noticed the QS was a bit more brutal in Sport mode. Thank you :)
Yes, as with most quick shifters, you need to be quite firm and decisive with your foot, and make sure you're in the right sort of rev range
I'm 6 foot tall and had a CB300R which is even smaller than the Hornet. It didn't feel small in the cockpit though. It had the same "nothing in front of you" feeling, same as my current bike, Vitpilen 401. Unlike the CB, the Vit doesn't have a split seat so I can move back.
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Cheers RocketMan!
:)
The Honda GB 750 Modern retro coming out next year looks better & has this same engine & Transalp.
Also a Scrambler version.
Yes, the future iterations of this 750 platform look more promising
Slap a Topbox on it and...Bob's your Uncle! 😏
Transalps looking good.⏳️
Arrrg, top boxes should be illegal, lol :)
...Well that's put my 'RocketBoy' channel plans on hold for a while
Haha :)
Thanks for the review RM. Agree with all you say; super vfm but let down by staid and conservative looks from the Big H. Had this bike been more interesting to look at (perhaps along the lines of their CB650, then it could well have been bingo for them. It probably will be anyway; I think the sheer ability and bang for your buck will dicrithst.
A big seller, for sure. If only it looked a bit more desirable…
I think chatgpt might have been confused between the 750 and 650R, especially in the looks department.
Possible👍
ChatGPT can't review a bike until it can ride a bike, otherwise it's just parroting other peoples' reviews.
I felt the same way about the Trident; that there was nothing in front of me when I sat on it.
I'm really looking forward to the TransAlp reviews.
👍😊
Looks like the current Honda cb125f.
They tried the family look across the range and ended up devaluing the CB900 by making it look like a 250 Superdream.
They should have given it a new headlight, at least
honda should've pulled the rear cowl from the CB650r on the hornet just like they pulled the headlight cluster from the CB500r
I believe there’s a seat cowl available as an accessory. That might help liven things up a bit?🤔
@@RocketMan_Moto i love that short tail on the 650r. that and a round headlamp cluster would make this hornet perfect. so much nostalogia on that name and they had to ruin it
@@cripticdestiny don't forget the swingarm too. The simple swingarm on this thing is driving me crazy ngl
@@gsm_liv8980 yes it's missing a tyre hugger.. there's gonna be mud everywhere
Ish ? Why do many people use the term or expression of “ish” so much ? Smallish ? What about Scottish, Irish = not fully ? Or just round a bout ? Please explain, thanks.
Good question. Smallish and Danish, as you might think, are not connected and come from two distinct sources. This article will help: www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2009/01/an-ish-out-of-water.html
Not a HUGE fan of yellow anything, but the yellow one does look pretty cool. I currently have a black CB500F and it's great to zip around town. At 37, I'm not trying to be Valentino out there. I'm more amused by running errands with my top box and getting 60mpg while parking on the sidewalk.
Yes, the yellow looks good, although I prefer the hue on the new Street Triple RS
Yeah, bikes need to be able to be loved, not just by its mother😀
Agreed
I think a big "ish" smoked windshield will be perfect for this bike.
Usual Honda bike, unusual Honda pricing, which is good for us. ChatGPT not ready to take over just yet, although seem to be getting more and more YT review channels with that mechanical voice reading out AI generated content which is obvious for now.
I can't stand those artificial voices; make me switch off immediately
In order: Looks awful, the headlight is a thing for a shame bag (whatever that is!). Red forks look cheapo - v nasty; Switches look v good - liley. Sat on one at Brum, Brum show. I thought it was perfect for me: bars, seat, pegs, everything. I'm quite short at 5ft 8, or in metric, 1.3 Napoleons: The looks over the bars not as extreme as the CB650R - that you said you liked! - You're just too tall for the bike methinks. Which is great! It will suit me perfectly...and lots of women riders....Hurrah! (your wife confirms this truth); 90.5 hp, less than the CB but, as you say, lower max torque - V Gud!; The shorter diameter tyre is a total irrelevance. Good on Honda for doing it. Tyres more important and they're probably the best. Which is great; Reviewers never give a bike less than the beans; TFT looks, and is, one of the best; Please don't dwell on morons who express themselves in immoderate (moronic) ways. They are (almost) universally despised and always ignored; It's not a beginner bike. It's....whatever bhp it has...about 3 less than an Africa Twin for ....goodness sake. It's also light. The CB650 does nothing much up to 7,000 rpm. The fastest I've ridden is !30mph. It scared me. I thought you were AI for the first 2 years. But, I'm a forgiving soul.
Thanks for your input
If the front view feels empty, simply add weight.
I meant visually empty😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I know. These new crop of nakeds are light because there’s not a lot of stuff such as fairings, racks and stuff added on. If you want stuff, you get extra weight.
Yes it's faster, but I really can't see this being better than a Trident. Maybe I'm biased though.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Street Triple is 2-3 levels up from the Trident, good as that bike is😊
Like you I'm 6'2" and it's a pain, yes I'd fit more naturally on a Transalp but aging hips disagree and at an extra £2,000 it's hard to see where that extra has been spent. The Hornet i borrowed had an obnoxiously loud AR Racing straight through system but laws, neighbours and eardrums not withstanding, it sounded glorious. The package did rather feel like a £7,000 engine with a £500 spent on the rest of the bike but i could live with that i think. Quite possibly the nearest thing Honda has produced to a KTM and that's no mean achievement for the worlds most sensible manufacturer. th-cam.com/video/8lYm3sDQDYA/w-d-xo.html
The Hornet was a blast to ride, much punchier than my Transalp, but it was just too small for me. Ride safe :)
Inventive !
Thanks :)
I thought you were moving to France?
So did we. Then we started looking at the weather forecast…🥶
@@RocketMan_Moto Indeed, we are thinking about buying abroad. Greece is looking a good option
Beginners bikes should be road trail, so they can go ride in the dirt, and learn bike control ,what you need to know when you get into trouble.
I agree that these skills can be useful on the road
Can you imagine a 130# skinny 15 y/o kid on one of these "beginner" bikes ??
Well, I wouldn’t give the Hornet to my 16-year-old son. It’s too powerful for a beginner’s bike🤔
A world were people work menial jobs that don't pay for the basic necessities of life, while AI writes poetry and paints art is not the future that I was hoping for.
What's it gunna do next?
Ask it too ride a bike in the style of Rossi or Doohan, and then it rides the bike like me?
Yeah nah. Keep it real.
Thanks for your feedback
Funny thing, in the rest of the world,the Honda is cheaper than the mt07. But in Denmark it’s a lot more expensive than the mt07 🤦🏻♂️
Vive l’Europe🤦♂️
Get a mt-07 then , sweet bike.@@RocketMan_Moto
I just can’t ride Hondas anymore. I find the build quality has dropped through the floor. Not even sure which models are built in Japan anymore. This bike is just woeful for styling too. The power seems good though.
The quality is still above average, but maybe not quite what it used to be
Would love this hornet motor in a classic 80s style honda with half fairing.
This new wasp insect look today lacks character.
Honda desperately need new design guru's, less plastics and a return to analog speedo and Rev counter.
Worth noting Rolex DON'T make digital watches.
Nice analogy
That is a rather dull bike, I think it will date very quickly. What is its purpose apart from being a naked motorcycle? Tourer - no, Commuter - yes but so many better bikes, even Hondas own CB500, Track Day Tool - no, Cruiser - if you like? It is just..... "a motorbike".
Good bike for riding schools, at least the restricted version
@@RocketMan_Moto oh no, you can’t do that to the poor old SV650! 😲
I passed on an er6. In my eyes looked identical to that. Utterly forgetful.
It is, unfortunately
hey...its a kymco visar 125 or any other like those. Awfull and uninspiring... from one of the best motorcycle brands around. try the new 765 triple :D :D for 3k more it should make all the difference in the world.
If I were in the market for a naked right now, then yes, I’d have the new Street Triple RS in a heartbeat❤️
Honda Vanilla.
Not this one
Nice bike, good test. AI frightening, what Fx news or other ultra right wing groups could do with this technology is scary
I think the problem right now is that nobody knows how far it’s going to progress😬
@@RocketMan_Moto seems already a huge number of very uneducated unreading people are disconnected from reality. At least here in the states
Ignorance is the next pandemic. And it's certainly not limited to the US.
Ai will add your natural voice.
Quite possibly
@@RocketMan_Moto Search, "Biden - false voice" from last week!
Yes, I saw that
ha ha , imitate the the low forceful growl of the rocketman , --- i don't think so .;;;
😂
I don’t understand why the Transalp 750 costs 3000 euros more than the Hornet. It’s the same bike with fairing. This is all due to the hype of adventure bikes? 😢
You bought the Transalp, have you asked Honda what’s the differences? How do you feel about that. You could make a rant video on the topic 😅
Marketing. Basically, Honda will sell the Transalp for as much as they can get away with, and as adventure riders tend to have more disposable income than urban roadster riders... That said, BMW do exactly the same thing with the F900R & XR.
I guarantee you someone in Asia is _already_ scraping your video footage for their 20-a-day spam YT channel shorts.
No doubt :(
Will dictate that…
😊
Just a shame about the looks. Who signed this off 🙄
Not the bike’s best feature
I find it funny that europeans think any 700cc or bike is too powerful fir bigineers…
Except American bikes - they only make about 45hp :)
@@RocketMan_Moto you dont get it, its not about speed it about not having the motor rev to the moon at usa speeds..
@@RocketMan_Moto i can explain how a bigger cc bike helps in thats sense if u want?