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3:13 I am a criminologist, Even the best statistical models made by PhDs who have dedicated their lives to studying deviant behaviors miss things and it ends in situations like this. I have worked on validating prison classification and pre trial detention tools and you simply cannot account for everything. Even the best models have error rates.
You did everything you could, this was not your fault. You did right by them.
Scotty please don't blame yourself for anything. You are a guinea pig guardian angel.
"I don't care what it takes, I want these boys" said Carol about Carrot and Broccoli - that statement is so chilling to me now.
Unfortunately people can hide their horrible side real well. You just never know. I'm over 60 years old and have seen this happen.
Sending you love and a great big hug!
I rescued my little guinea pig on the bike path on an afternoon run. He is now 3+ years old and extremely healthy according to his doctor. He gets cuddles every morning and every evening. He is always looking pets from anyone walking by his cage. Extremely friendly little guy.
It's not your fault, Scotty. You are one of the best guinea pig owners I know.
Scotty you didn't do anything wrong. We never know how people are exactly or how the live. They looked like two normal people wanting to adopt Broccoli and Carrot. You did not do a single thing wrong. I hope you don't get discouraged and don't stop doing what your so great at because of these two people. Sending hugs to you. ❤
Whenever someone 'complains' about how 'difficult' it is to meet adoption criteria for any animal, I'm going to give them this cautionary tale as an example. Don't beat yourself up Scotty, you could never have foreseen this outcome.
I remember seeing that video when it first came out. The way Carol and her husband held your fosters showed love. I don’t think there were any signs you missed. Whether they were animal hoarders at the time or not, they showed no outward indication of anything suspicious. We can’t read minds or hearts. You did everything right, Scotty.
I am really sorry Scotty. I am speechless. It is not your fault.
Hoarding is a mental health issue. I think it's likely that these people were excellent piggy parents at first and developed mental health issues later. To me, the photos you showed are sufficient evidence that the boys' new home was a happy one at first. I think their hearts were in the right place and they just lost the ability to provide the attention and care that pets need. That's not your fault, Scotty. It's tragic, but you had no way to predict that it would happen. I hope the surviving animals find forever homes with people who are able to give them the attention and care they need, and I hope these people get the help they need for their mental health issues.
Crazy days! On Friday a request arrived in Saxonia, Germany. they need help with 50 guinea pigs, the owner went to the asylum. Turned out to be a chaos of unneutered boars with pregnant sows, sick.and weary, a total of 160 ( !) . In a campaign they found foster homes for all! Brought tears to my eyes.
That's amazing that they where able to find homes for everyone, I got worried they had to put all of them down.
I can't imagine how hard it was for you to get through this video. The number of tears you must've shed. Evil is evil. Those who want to deceive will deceive those who are good. You are a wonderful human being who loves piggies. Thank you for what you do
We are only responsible for our own actions not the actions of others , Scotty your actions were great you have nothing to feel bad about
Scotty don’t put the blame on yourself. They both seemed to be a nice elderly couple. They looked so sweet. I will pray that you would find the other Guinea pig soon
Scotty, my friend, I have only a few words to offer at this point! YOU did nothing wrong, NOTHING. If I were a guinea pig, I would want you as my guardian and perhaps my papa. Hoarding is a sickness. And when you do not have an opportunity to go to that hoarders place, how can you tell. You can't. Just from watching the second video, I would have given them the boys.
I pray they are going to get the help they need. And I pray and cry for the lost animals. I don't know, maybe we should do like Pit Bulls and Paroles. They make home visits but that just seems so intrusive. I am just going to keep hounding the pet stores and keep loving my girls. I wish I knew the answer. Love to you, Saskia, Val, Ann and all my piggie friends I have made.
@maryamullins4332 i couldnt have put it any better
Scotty, please, please, please don't beat yourself up about this. The first thing to remember is hoarding is a mental illness, and it may not have been manifesting in them yet. You did everything you knew to do. Don't let this make you question yourself. You do an amazing job taking care of and rescuing piggies. Keep up the awesome work! We love you Scotty!🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️
It's not ur fault Scotty.. and thank you so much for rescuing and help those piggies ... God bless
Don’t even blame yourself Scotty!
You can’t blame your self. You do awesome work for all the Guinea pig but you can save them all your self.
I appreciate that
Oh Scotty, you can’t help that you were utterly lied to. Carol was purposely deceptive and it’s truly disgusting. You have the biggest heart and just wanted to trust these people who honestly are just soulless and did not follow through with what they said they were going to do. You’re the best Scotty, never forget that!
It is absolutely terrifying how good these kinds of people are at conning others. Don't blame yourself, Scotty. There's a reason why scammers and con men are so successful--they are very good at what they do! At least this pair have been apprehended and can no longer go around scamming more people and harming innocent creatures.
We love you Scotty ❤ you did everything right
Remember, hindsight is 20/20. You can never know for sure how someone really is. You can just do your best.
Scotty, you aren’t responsible for this. They are to blame. Sending you a big hug.
Scott, this must be tearing your heart out. Imo there is absolutely ZERO way you could have seen what was coming, you don't have a crystal ball.
Humans are gonna human. You've saved hundreds of lives and that doesn't take away the hurt but it's worth remembering, be kind to yourself Sir 🎉
You did all you could, Scotty. You did all the right things and they said all the right things to make anyone believe that they’d have a great home. ❤Who knows? Maybe they did give them a great home at first. It sounds like they had some sort of mental breakdown. There’s no telling when these things will happen or who they will happen to.
You did everything you could at the time with what you knew. That's all you can do! I hope more details come out to ease your concerns. We all learn as we go. Keep fighting the good fight!
Adding some positivity, Scott, you have taught me so much in caring for my piggies. Thank you. They live a much better life because of you.
This was a very extreme case, the responsibility isn’t on anyone else but these two people.
Scotty you helped me grow from an ignorant mum who didn’t do her homework when getting her son his piggies. Through you I learned what I needed to, through those you work with I learned more and more. I’m still learning, still doing my best and still seeking you guys for more and more knowledge, encouragement and joy.
This horrendous situation does need airtime, it does need to be talked about. But you do not deserve to be feeling any kind of guilt or responsibility for what these two people chose to do. It’s theirs to own.
As you said. You've facilitated so many adoptions. You didn't know that these people would turn out to be rotten apples. You're a kind person 💛 YNWA ❣️
I'm sorry Scotty! Please don't beat yourself up, you had no idea what these people were like. As you said, they did and said all the "right" things. *You* ARE a force for good! 💜❤
It didnt look like a hoarding home at that point in time Very clean and spacious
You are a kind person, and you always hope your babies go to good homes. You did what you thought was right. You can't do better than that. Stay strong❤
I'm so sorry Scotty. You have the most amazing heart ever and had you known what they were like those piggies would never end up in that situation. Don't blame yourself. Hopefully one of them is alive and well and maybe you can be reunited. Sending much love from UK. Would give you a big hug if I could. ❤
I love guinea pigs . Guinea pigs are favorite animals
Don't be too harsh on yourself. You are the Guarding Angel For Guinea Pigs. Keep doing what you do.
Hugs
Please don't blame yourself for this. You have helped me and so many others!
Scotty, this was not your fault. You choose to see the goodness in people, and I'd like to think that Carrot and Broccoli had a wonderful life and passed peacefully before things became out of control. Think of all the people who have learned and adopted these precious babies from you over the years and have lived such vibrant, healthy and happy lives. We as a community look out for one another and those who may be vulnerable. Keep doing what you're doing, Scotty, you are amazing ❤
I remember those boys and the video. It is heartbreaking! Its good to keep in mind that this situation with these people is not the norm. Dont beat yourself up Scotty you could not have known. The fact they came all that way in most cases would be a good sign in my opinion. And whatever happened to the boys is not your fault Scotty it's Carol and Tim's fault!! Thanks for all the work you do for the pigs and other animals!
You did not know. you were trying to provide them with a home that would love them. Big cuddles from my spoiled girls
🥺🥺🥺 you do the best you can. Life isnt fair sometimes, but you are always trying❤
Thank you for your ongoing support guinea pig talks ♥️
I’m so sorry, Scotty 😭 my heart is absolutely broken
Scotty, this is not your fault, I honestly believe that these people because sick hoarders afterwards. It’s a mental illness. I feel incredibly sad for the piggies and all the other animals but be assured that you are not to blame. You do a beautiful job and all the love you give to these precious beings is just magnificent ❤
It makes trusting strangers with your beautiful babies impossible, I’ve kept all my rescues because people lie! Keep the faith scotty because as much as you were deceived your heart is definitely in the right place
You can never know what goes on within someone’s home. It is NOT your fault. It’s theirs.
Breaks my heart-you can’t blame yourself as you do so much for these animals and unfortunately you can’t foresee everything.
I hope there issues started after them, but it doesn't stop my heart from breaking for the other animals they had.
Je comprends ce que vous ressentez Scotty, mais ce n'est pas de votre faute ; vous ne pouviez pas le deviner. Ne vous découragez pas surtout, même si c'est difficile ; vous êtes un véritable ange gardien pour ces petits êtres merveilleux. Merci pour tout ce que vous faites 🙏🍀🌹
Oh Scotty. I couldn't imagine your pain right now. These people knew how to manipulate you. There is no way you would have known. We can only do what we can with the information we have at the time. I wish you healing and love❤
Situations like this happen gradually. Makes me so sad.
I watched the video of their handover when it happened during covid, they looked to have an awesome home. Maybe it was at first. There's no way of really knowing.
You have helped so many piggies across the world with your guidance and advice. All we can do is try, and that's exactly what happened here ❤
Scotty, I feel Carrot and Broccoli had a good life with them, I feel like the hoarding didn't happen yet. They were in lovely C&C cages that looked clean. I just have this feeling the hoarding didn't manifest yet while Carrot and Broccoli were still there. I hope this eases your mind and heals your heart. ♥
My piggy is THRIVING because of your channel !!!! We ❤ you Scott !!! Keep going !!!!
You are so a good person and you couldn‘t know this,don‘t blame you…❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
My 2 boys are getting a new cage pad. They didn't really need it but but what a nice way to help piggies. Scotty I love your channel and enjoy watching you videos enough to be a patron to support everything you do.
It breaks my heart to see this. These evil people should go to jail for a long time. A person wouldn't be treated like this so why is it acceptable for animals who cannot defend themselves to suffer like this. I'm angry and upset and cannot understand how this could happen. 💔😡💔
I am so sorry to hear this. We can't know everything. We do what we can by educating, being transparent, offering support and taking great care of the piggies who come into our care. You are doing all these things and more.
Please don't blame yourself. Things can go wrong and sometimes there are no red flags. All we can do is our best. You did nothing wrong.
Please don't blame yourself. you were intentionally deceived and you had no way of knowing this would be the outcome. You're such an amazing Guinea Parent and all your advice is so insightful and inspiring. When I first started watching your channel I had no Guineas of my own but since learning about the beautiful creatures they are from you're channel. I now have 6 rescue pigs all living happy and spoiled in my bedroom. I'm so, so sorry.
the not knowing what happened, is something that wont ever leave, i understand that
some people can seem so genuine but they can con people don't blame your self Scotty you are a saint 😮xx
So sorry Scotty, please don't blame yourself for this. You did nothing wrong.
None of this is your fault, Scotty. I am sorry to hear this news. You said we don't live in a perfect world. They deceived you. All we can do is continue to be forces for good.
I’d hazard a guess that these people’s mental illness presented itself after the adoption. Things probably started off fine and with the best intentions but spiraled out of control. Unfortunately, there’s no way you could have (or should have) seen this. You shouldn’t take any responsibility for this as you had no reason to expect this result. You give us the best example of how to take care of piggies and you’ve facilitated so many successful adoptions. Keep your eyes on your successes and positivity look forward to the future. ❤️🐾
Yes, I’d completely agree as from the pictures there was little clutter visible and things looked clean and tidy. It was definitely a gradual decline which may have started off well after the piggies were adopted.
Oh Scotty, no!!!! SO sorry to hear this!!! As I was listening to your story, I felt sick in the stomach and I started sweating. This is how much I love these beautiful animals. I could hardly watch the rest of the video as I got too emotional about all this!!!
Oh wow! I remember your video about that couple. 😢
I'll reiterate what everyone is saying. Please don't blame yourself. There's no way you could have foreseen what would end up happening. 🙏❤
You did what you thought was right at the time. Odd ones will sadly slip through but you need to think about all the others you managed to save over years. Your amazing ❤
A lot can change in 4 years! It’s shocking to see their sweet posts about their piggies and your fostering services, to then end like this. They seemed, initially at least, to put me as an adopter to shame. This reminds me of how a narcissist will initially come off as so charming. They clearly were struggling with hoarding disorder and who knows what else. I hope the surviving victims and the human perpetrators can have better lives after all this. Thank you for being so kind.
Based on my understanding of the psychology of Animal Hoarding, it's likely they did care for them which is usually a reliable way to assess someone's caretaking abilities. But these were individuals with complicated mental disorders that those poor piggies were caught in the crossfire. It might bring you peace to understand how humans who seem to love animals get to this point. And it is possible the animal hoarders were doing better when you met them and then relapsed. No matter what, this is not on you. You are a wonderful advocate for piggies. I have yet to get piggies because of the work and education you've put into this channel. I refuse to get them until I feel completely prepared and knowledgeable. For every Carol, I bet there is a bunch more like me who are learning to care of guinea pigs the way they deserve through your channel. Thank you for all you do for these precious furry potatoes and their caretakers. ❤
It’s easy to try to cover up what happened to Carrot and Broccoli. But YOU have integrity. We don’t get it right 100% of the time in the rescue world. We’ve seen people who we think are great owners surrender their pigs later malnourished and sick. We can screen to the high heavens, and people will be able to convince you that they’re in it for the long haul. You ALWAYS do your part, with your own little “rescue” as well as the way you handle adopters at LAGPR. I’m PROUD to call you my friend, and one of my partners in rescue. Lots of love to you. ❤❤
You have done so much for animals, Scotty. There's no way that you could have known that these people would do that. A woman and her husband who lived near me, did that with 32 dogs and their neighbours didn't know what was going on for several months. The dogs couldn't even stand up, they were so emaciated. The owners were banned for life from keeping animals. Thank you for all that YOU do for the animals Scotty 🐾🐾🐾🐾🐹🐹🐹🐹🐹
Pets like guinea pigs give their owners unconditional love and yet some owners can mistreat them. So sad. "Don't Shop, Adopt" is a great slogan, we should all do that. Pet Shops should only sell pet products not live animals due to so many pets out there that desperately need rescued and adopted.
Its not your fault scotty you thought these people would love your piggies dont feel bad. I take could care of my piggies if i had your piggies they would still be alive i remember that video good video
I remember these people and the Video. You could never know what will come in the future. Please go ahead the way you do.
Scotty, you didn't miss anything. I agree with other commenters that the hoarding probably came later. The boys really did look happy and well cared for at first. It's very possible that this couple loved having their piggies and decided to adopt more... Then more... And before they knew it, they had too many. I recognize this in myself, so i have turned down taking in more piggies, as much as i really want to "save" them all
Scotty, I’m so sorry for this horrible situation. My heart is breaking for you and your piggies. Unfortunately, we don’t have the ability to foresee the future or read the hearts of others. Trust me, you are so generous with your time and love and my piggies and I (along with many others) have truly benefited from you. I know this is small comfort while you’re dealing with this situation, but you are not to blame. You were honorable, they were not.
Who knows what went wrong it looks like they had good care to start with when they first adopted them.Hugs Scotty
I totally remember this video when you posted it, now that that you show it again in this video. Wow, I am so sorry, Scottie! How could you have known?! You were doing the best with the information you had at the time. How heartbreaking.
Oh Scotty, you didn't do anything and you can't predict how the effects of the hoarding mental illness will get, the severity. I talked to my sister after this happened who had experience with mental illness and in hoarding situations with rescues, and the illness is hidden well, until it gets to an extreme. Scotty, you always say, look to the good in all the horrible situations and maybe with this situation, more people, will be looking out on their neighbors and making sure they are all right and that their pets are too and then can avoid another situation like this.
Scotty i dont think you should be too hard on yourself. There are so many horrible people who will pretend to have everything and im sure youre not the only person they decieved.
You thought your boys were going to a loving home and had the best intentions. Whats important is the vegas hoarding situation got attention and less people are going to be getting away with it.
Scotty, please, please, please don't blame yourself. You didn't miss anything. People change. You can't forsee that. I believe everything happens for a reason. I truly believe these boys chose to give their lives to get you involved. I believe we are allowed to view our lives before we take our current assessment. Why don't animals get the same? I believe it is. So sleep easy knowing they're now with my, and so many other's herds on the other side. And I truly believe they chose to go to help spread awareness.
My local shelter just took in over 100 from a hoarder in Colorado the day after yours happened. It's not just you. She let that couple adopt a couple of little girls a few years ago, and I'm the one that traveled to meet them. I was a part of that. I get where you're coming from. I hope you can find some peace in my beliefs. We love you for who you are, and what you do. I actually for years now, am the Idaho version of you. I found your channel shortly after starting, and thanks to you, I have been able to do what I do better.
Im so sorry Scotty I know you are hurting. But focus on the many good ones u placed. Also all your foster fails.
Don't blame yourself or question if there's something you could have done. You take such good care of so many piggies and despite how careful anyone is, you can never truly know who someone is in their own home unless that's what they want to show you. Also, maybe everything was fine when you met them and someone developed a mental health problem or had a medical incident. It's ok. You're a great guy and none of that was your fault.
This is just scary! Unbelievable. I wish there were more people like Scotty in this world.
Omgsh I'm so sorry to hear the horrible news... That was truly upsetting, especially for you Scott. On a positive note tho as you wanted to hear... I have adopted my two piggies yrs ago that were just left in a storage room at a damn big pet store (I won't mention the name) and after I brought them home for my little boy he lit up like a Christmas tree filled with joy! After that moment they have become apart of our little family. An also a few months ago I was visiting my uncle and he had a stray cat named Garfield that didn't have a home and they couldn't really take care of him. My son and I loved him right away and we took the cat home in the truck... when we arrived at the house, one of my other family members told me we couldn't keep him and so my uncle had to take him back... once he stopped at the end of our road at a stop sign the cat just jumped out of the window of his truck and ran all the way back here with us!! lol crazy huh! He hasn't left ever since and btw he's sleeping on my bed, super cute! Keep your chin up Scotty! Your doing the best you can do for those lovely babies! Don't ever stop!
Maybe ask how many animals they currently have. This was a terrible situation. It's normal to process what happened and look for red flags, but you're not an investigator, and you had good intentions to find them a family. You do a lot of good, so let it go, and keep doing what you're doing.
Oh Scotty I feel for you 😢you did everything right, no one could have seen this coming. You did everything right the same as any rescue rehoming animals, they lied, they did wrong, they deceived you. Sadly some humans can be awful, there’s nothing more you can do you do your best and check things out properly.
Scotty this is not your fault. You did everything you for those babies. Also you had no way of knowing this would happen. Please take care of yourself and your little babies
Paw prayers from all of us in Wisconsin Scotty.
I get it I would be blaming myself too, but it is not your fault and I know some of the guinea pigs I’ve adopted out have ended up coming back to me in worse shape. And I felt terrible. It’s OK to cry and feel terrible for a while. Then , dry your tears, wash your face, and get back up and help some more piggies. ❤
Hi Scotty!! I just wanted to thank you for all the content you upload about taking care of this great animals! My first two Guinea Pigs I found walking my dog during winter time, I never had piggies up to that point but I wanted to take care of them and they were in bad conditions, your channel was their salvation!! Now couple years later I have a total of 6 rescued/adopted piggies and I am so thankfull that your content was there for me when I was clueless, I watch almost every single video of yours and I have learned so much!! Your are a huge force of good, I am pretty sure you are one of those ppl that brings light in the darknness as you mentioned, let´s keep spreading the love!!
No blame on you, Scott. You can't control what others do especially when they are out of state. You gave your fosters to them out of good faith and that's all you could have done. Please don't beat yourself up. I have a positive story. My 8 year old Pip who is a Himalayan gives me kisses especially when he's on my stomach. He's such a sweetheart that he even coos. God bless you and all the rescues.❤🐹
Some people can be very deceiving. You did everything right and I know it's so very upsetting. Just know there are still alot of people who care and you do amazing work. Please don't blame yourself. I do remember this video. How could you know. 😢
I know it’s hard but you must remember that it is NOT your fault. You care so much, you did all the right things. You screened and they appeared to be good and maybe they were at the time …….. just remember to keep doing your best and lots of Guinea pigs will have happy ending because of you. I work in place were I get to educate many people about Guinea pigs and that it part in thanks to you because you are someone that taught me a lot. I even tell some of them to check out your channel. Love you, keep up the good work.
This whole situation is sad. I don't know what else to say, except 🐹❤ 🐹💙
Scotty, I worked at an animal shelter for four years and this was always my worst fear. I had to leave sheltering, because the prospect of sending an innocent life to its doom was too scary. I'm a glass-half-empty kind of person.
I know you were excited, Scotty you are doing the best you can! Those people were sooo wrong, unbelievable!! ❤
That's a shame, I am so very sorry 😢
I’m sorry this happened to you Scotty !!!! This is not your fault. ❤