The scariest thing ive seen is a faceless with snap celeritas, i made the build and gave it to a friend whos much more experienced than me, dude proceded to molest 5 people by switching places with them mid fight, legit Sasukes Rinnegan and managed to kill all but one who managed to gate away, people sleep on creativity now
"abyss walker is really easy to play but hard to do well" that is literally facts everyone thinks its just m1ing but theres so much more u have to take into account when fighting
not really lol I've played abyss it's the same as any other class except you don't need to know any combos or anything abyss is easy to use and easy to use well
I use braindead on any gaia dwellers because they target freshies and when they beat you, they go like “ez ez ez” or “gg” as if beating a freshie as an ultra is that big of an achievement.
it may not be braindead, but a fischeran akuma samurai is so easy to use that even I can kill ultras with it (I am pretty bad at the combat in rogue) and it's made me worse at everything else because of how much easier and different it is from playing normally
@@Bob-aaaaa first i comment a lot on agamatsu's videos (unless you've seen me other places too, I don't comment as frequently in other places) second samurai's skills require the sword to be drawn, akuma's skills don't care. you can even stack triple slash and rising dragon at the same time (the only "combo" I do lol) for extreme damage, it's not much compared to a usual ultra but you can do over 100 damage in a very easy combo
well theres def quirks to using shinobi more effectively, but id say faceless is more skill-based since you dont have any res to rely on, no super effective means of getting away (if someone has snap geli theyre catching up to you no problem, whereas a shinobi could grapple away to the top of the map if they wanted), youre squishier, and you have a lot of moves to keep in mind.
It's depending on who ur facing. Although faceless is more skill-based, shinobi though if u time it right which it takes like a couple minutes to master it you can just Grapple > Tripple Dagger Throw > Shadowrush > Owl Slash right? Idk the true combo and then they get on the ground agility bane, m1 m1 m1 lethality m1 m1 m1 shadowrush grapple owl slash right? Takes a lil bit to master but faceless I say is more skill based cause you can't do what shinobi does u gotta go in with the burst one shot. Instead of the consistent hits on people like shinobi gets. Faceless just has nothing on it unless ur a construct or morvid.
@@carl8468 some builds are skill based for shinobi, that only being ashiin shinobi. as an ashiin shinobi player who DOESNT macro, its really not hard to hit shoulder throw but still requires skill when faceless is just spamming moves in an order
@@turnzecki i mean yeah but faceless cant just grapple away from u though while doing all that amazing dmg. Gaia is more on how you can kill someone in time and how you escape imo. So like seeing faceless and how it can do all that dmg while being immobilized, I see it skill-based im a khei plr so i can be wrong.
IMO, if you talking about khei, it's either uber Illusionist or uber Sigil because Illu basically has flight and very OP spells like Compress, Terra Rebus, and etc. While Sigil, you can do very nasty combos + you are very VERY tanky.
abyss walker (braindead in a good way) faceless (braindead in a meh way) shinobi (the game is literally played for you at this point) i just saved you all 7 minutes
Shinobi 100%, you can give a shinobi account to someone who has never played the game, and just explain the moves and they'll be fine, abysswalker is a close second.
Faceless DEF takes more skill than shinobi. I have an ashiin shinobi alt I play on like once a month and a ashiin shinobi friend who plays only shinobi. Shinobi is overall really easy to use and braindead as shit if youre an ashiin or gaian. Auto attacks alone and tdt owl slash then running is enough to kill someone. Faceless on the other hand has to watch out if someones tryna combo them cause once they get comboed. Its ggs. Shinobi doesnt have that problem due to grapple and shadow rush
Yeah.. no. Shinobi only doesn’t have to worry about rag doll combos because of shadowrush lol. If it’s a true combo that isn’t ragdoll than they’ re fine. Faceless is easy as fuck it’s literally a million damage a second
thank you for not calling faceless braindead, it really does take a good bit of practice and trial and error to fully understand how to use the class. ofc if you macroing full combos youre braindead as fuck. i only macro agility+bane since with faceless your hotbar is pretty filled up and i dont wanna stretch my fingers to 7 and 8 (thats just where i place them)
cmon its obvious solans - insane one combo takes no skill any necromancer: gate snail combo dinakeri druid: sleepy build zzz action surge telorum illusionist: yaawwnnnn dominus nocere shrieker summoning zz snap ignis ashiin oni: lol ur gayy ashiin shinobi: its all gangsta till he lands the shoulder throw in air combo
My opinion it’s dslayer it’s a tanky class with a skill like wingsoar and it has a whole res (and it’s tanky) dragon blood makes it possible to one combo anyone if u play it right (it’s also tanky) and getting hit by 1 spear crusher can literally change the tides of a fight
How is dslayer more braindead than mages you need to know how to m1 stack consistently for dslayer to be viable which takes a bit of skill im not saying dslayer is skill based but definetely more skill based than the 3 mages especially when necro litteraly summons minions to fight for itself..
Ronin is a really underrated class imo, it does pretty good damage and has fairly low cooldowns. I think it's main downside is the drawing/sheathing mechanic because it prevents you from mana shielding fast and using timeless based combos
Yeah, i also said that when i got ronin, but when someone mana shields, theres not much you can do, as snap viribus is very predictable with ronin ans can give the other a chance to strike.
Solans = Geli-M1 3 times, lightning blow, m1 6 times, white flame charge blow, flame charge blow, ice charge blow, and then spam spells until you get cd back, solans literally is all true combos if you lack the ability to get i frames
@@animaljamer1099 you can use shoulder throw on the last three m1s then use the blow to not only let the person eat all of the white flame m1s but also get the side dish of 14 fucking white flame charge hits
@@muhamedbarzan873 geli is an optional you can throw that shit out and still get your full combo in especially if you’re an evamp and the other player isn’t
first off, you're not gonna hit m1s after ragdoll because players are not that dumb. Doing lightning charge m1s 6 times is gonna do damage but its gonna let them get up instantly, doing white fire blow after that is gonna take ages and they wont be hit. if you spam spells with sigil then you're just dumb. solans is not fair yeah i can agree but trust me its not hard to counter it bud.
if you had played ff nav dslayer you would know that as agamatsu says there are alot of stuff you need to know of to actually be good at it like movestacking its definetely an easy class but nowhere near mages.
@@WantLessMason Ok Go ahead and land your m1s when people Will either zone you out on their dagger mobility class of hold mage shield, and leap isnt a solution because its so easy go react to man
1. Necro 2. Shinobi 3. FF Dslayer/FF deepknight (seriously these classes are not very different) 4. Illusionist 5. Druid 6. Faceless 7. Solans Sigil 8. Blacksmith Rest of the classes aren’t braindead in my opinion
how on earth is ff dslayer and deepknight more braindead than illu and druid they both need a decent amount of skill to pull off the m1 stacks meanwhile u can give a philo illu or druid to a random new player explain the moves then they will be winning 98% of their future fights if you give an evamp ff dslayer or deepknight to a new player theres a 70%+ chance theyre going to wipe in 10 minutes
necro is probably the worst necro only cuz you have to work for your bounds if not wait hours just to get a certain bounds and druid and illu are just better
@@dethari4469 except you need to m1 stack for the combo to actually even work. as a fellow ff nav dslayer i wouldnt say its "very very skilled" as the dude above says but it requires more skill than the mages and shinobi
@@keri7031 it isn’t skilled stop lying to yourself I was a ranked dslayer in gaia that shit is beyond easy not only that m1 movestacking is a combat bug not part of the game if you need to abuse it you aren’t skilled 💀
@@gaelgriffith8175 gaia does not have ranks... alot of things are combat bugs like stacking moves on shinobi and faceless m1 stacking etc... But being able to use them is a mark of a good dslayer or shinobi or faceless if you think dslayer doesnt need to abuse m1 stacking i doubt you have ever even played dslayer how are you supposed to combo if you dont m1 stack? Evamp is nessecary for any dslayer and so if you want to combo you need to learn how to m1 stack plus back when gaia did have ranks most of the games players were utter ass.
If we talking no tomeless heres my list: THIS LIST WAS DIVIDED INTO 3 TIERS Braindead Classes 1. Shinobi (The only class that has verticle movement, there's pretty much nothing you can do to counter them. All you can do is block or mana shield. Backstab is also strong as fuck 0.o) 2. Necro (This class is entirely build based, not skill based. If you have the all godspells philo femboy mage build then yes you will dominate) 3. Illu (Same as Necro but in my opinion not as good, because Necro I think is more of a boss raid class thanks to shriekers that honestly do more work than real players ngl. And that Howler go brr) 4. D-Slayer (I don't think I need to explain this one. You just m1 stack all your moves until they die, if they have FF OOF you is clapped) 5. Ronin (since this was a non tomeless list I had to put it up here. Without tomeless ronin destroys any nigga who squares up because of the mobility and combo extending moves) 6. D-Knight (Superhuman immense damage. Not including the fact that you can heal more than PF could back in 2019 rogue. This shit is tanky, hits hard, and heals like hashirama. If it was a lil faster it would be higher up tho) Requires Skill but pretty good 7. D-Sigil (Really underrated in my opinion. Dark flame eruption goes through mana shield and azeals now so nothing is immune to it, plus the hitbox is actually very wide so if you try and dodge to the left or right it might still hit you. With or without runes this class does more damage than you expect with one or two moves not including its super tanky because of runes) 8. Sigil (Sigl has some very good combo extenders and has combos for every class and race including races like Fisch and Dzin. If they have solans, Its an ez one combo pretty much. High damage High tank, Its pretty much faceless but instead of mobility its tanky, and remember faceless damage before the nerf is around what sigils do now. It kinda requires skill tho) 9. Faceless (why did I put this so low? As a non macro faceless I can tell you this shit requires skill to use and does not need to keep getting nerfs. Especially because the dagger moves are bugged sometimes and don't hit) 10. Abysswalker (Now what you might be thinkin issss. oh my gOd AbYss IS bRaInDeAd BeST ClaSs WHy iS It ThIs lOw. Amma keep it a buck, this class is booty cheeks. Requires a lot more thinking to play correctly than a lot of people think, its attack speed is really not that fast and it's really only good on races like dinakeri where they can stack runes on top of it. So yeah overrated class) 11. Druid (imo after they gutted this thing so hard it's easy to beat cause all they try to do is combo extend, you don't have to be good to beat one and it just kinda lacks in damage) The doodoo butter 12. Spy (after the nerf its just garbage without being a mobility mage dont even use it) 13. D-Sage (same as spy tbh)
Id place dknight over dsigil yes its very underrated but I think that it dknight deserves 6th plus its pretty braindead when you get a chainpull its like 70% of their hp gone
Oni you have I frames and hyper armor it’s so easy rising dragon is a true like 70 damage after one hit and demon flip m1 and m2 have a busted hitbox it has a insta exe that’s not lethality so they don’t have to be up u can do it on knocked u have pretty low cool downs and a medium sized move set so you don’t need to press like up to key 9 but it’s not to small so u have like 3 actives aswell as fucking bone breaks and rib break on 1 hit leg break on 2
To sum it up: I-frames for as long as you want, giving a permanent injury if not near a doctor, cool downs so low it’s a crime, damage so high that it makes me worry, overpowered guardbreak
Most classes take no skill to fucking use, you learn shinobi in like an hour of ps then get some ganking experience, faceless is ragdoll combo, dsage is ragdoll combo, solans does too much dmg to ever be fair ( I get you get no movement but if you can kill a fucking player withing 5 seconds its not fair at all.), deep knight is literally just inf combo. You need NO skill and that shows in the meta Edit: AND ABYSS WALKER IS HARD TO PLAY WELL? BRO EVERY CLASS IS HARD TO DO WELL IF YOU DONT KNOW WTF YOU ARE DOING, like seriously if you can combo with shinobi but you dont know how to time it it just wont work bruh the amount of brain power in that sentence was insane
I would say between AbyssWalker and Dsk since both requires you to use your head, both have limited abilities and if you suck at reading a fight then you die. But I think abysswalker since you cant use spells.
Lacks mobility illu with hystericus + shrieker can kill u no matter what u r and it has the mobility dk is not the most braindead it has its compensations
@@VerifyVint lacks mobility: makes up for it with 1 shot comboes illu can kill you no matter what: illu can kill every class with that build except like a hoppa mage or something
Oni is most brain dead. I am a Gaia dsage and went into a ps, decided to 1 v 1 a oni. I was fucking him up but for literally 1 combo just one he did HALF my hp. IM A GAIAN DSAGE ASWELL like bro can’t tell me that’s not brain dead
must be your first ultra, almost every class can one shot combo you its not just oni youre lucky you havent seen the philo stone illu combo yet or the dinakeri druid combo or even the ff nav dslayer combo
@@keri7031 I know that a lot of classes can 1 combo but the oni combo is consistent and takes no skill and on top of all that it can be executed in seconds.
Also why do you call it "braindead" as you clearly do not need any brain for any classes in rogue besides mage and Ronin, as you'll need to use your brain and remember your spells % or have a philo, then it's braindead and ronin mostly requires you to pend on the enemy's mistake to fail at something and then taking the oppertunity to counter his attacks
Call me a permafreshie I guess but it still is just missuse of the word in a logical way, although it would barely matter because only some people able to understand what I mean
@@keri7031 Mage requires no skill but still needs a tiny bit of brainpower when fighting, as they'll need to cast thier spells correct and evade most attacks, when they have a philo there really is not a lot that they'll need skill for as even mage shield is brokenly op
@@keri7031 you’ve obviously never played mage. Lol. The entire reason mage is good is because of Godspells. Without a philo godspells are high risk high reward.
as a long time shinobi main i gotta say the class is really overrated, people think it’s super easy to but that’s not always the case. Since it’s as squishy as faceless and has shorter bane you have to be very selective of when you’re gonna pop it, mana shield counters normal shinobi entirely, it also doesn’t help that sped_mage comes back after a year just to fuck it over even more. movestacks are inconsistent you can spam your moves and they can either come out right away or not at all. the skill gap is also pretty massive when you’re going shinobi v shinobi, really obvious to tell who’s good and who’s not.
Abyss walker is the most braindead class period u take tomeless away from every class so all is fair and abyss wins ez U should think more of just the class and skills not tomeless and stuff
Classes like dsage or wraith knight would struggle in that situation. Classes like faceless, deep knight, shinobi, solans, etc wouldn’t because they don’t rely on tomeless. High damage with just m1s doesn’t make it any good. Especially bc it can’t have tomeless for whatever reason
Man talking about balancing
While ganking with 8 people, content right here
Its commentary. Thats pre recorded footage lmaooooooo.
It Just shows how balanced shinobi is you know its totaly not overpowered
(Clashes with 8 ppl)
4:30 u did not have to do him like that 🤣
Ouch 💀
LOL
The scariest thing ive seen is a faceless with snap celeritas, i made the build and gave it to a friend whos much more experienced than me, dude proceded to molest 5 people by switching places with them mid fight, legit Sasukes Rinnegan and managed to kill all but one who managed to gate away, people sleep on creativity now
why does that actually sound so creative and scary
@@VzieI because its creative and scary obv
"abyss walker is really easy to play but hard to do well" that is literally facts everyone thinks its just m1ing but theres so much more u have to take into account when fighting
Thank you Geo people keep malding
Cat boi :0
On god, you have to press q as well! Smh my head
not really lol I've played abyss it's the same as any other class except you don't need to know any combos or anything abyss is easy to use and easy to use well
@@itsoracle How did you wipe
I use braindead on any gaia dwellers because they target freshies and when they beat you, they go like “ez ez ez” or “gg” as if beating a freshie as an ultra is that big of an achievement.
Fun fact: This video will change most of the rogue's community minds
shut up lil bro
mages are more build based than skill based compared to other classes tbh
This is a good sum up to mage honestly
On god
They are build base but you have to be lucky because mages and their builds are rng like godes philo and gate are really rng
@@romeotorey3636 yeah fr like a normal necro with no godspells can’t do shit against a necro with 200 bounds all godspells and gate with snail copied
its fun tho
Necromancer,
-bring a dog
-ingis spam
Good job u won’t the fight fair and square!
samurai counters
This is rogue lineage there is no such thing as fair and square.
or gate snail and spam click bounds
@@nore5888 how
Non gate necros losing
Damn- and here I find spell running and mana charging under pressure difficult
it may not be braindead, but a fischeran akuma samurai is so easy to use that even I can kill ultras with it (I am pretty bad at the combat in rogue) and it's made me worse at everything else because of how much easier and different it is from playing normally
First you are everywhere
Second HOWWWW
Samurais weapon has such a long draw time. Can you really do combos with both classes lol
@@Bob-aaaaa first i comment a lot on agamatsu's videos (unless you've seen me other places too, I don't comment as frequently in other places)
second samurai's skills require the sword to be drawn, akuma's skills don't care. you can even stack triple slash and rising dragon at the same time (the only "combo" I do lol) for extreme damage, it's not much compared to a usual ultra but you can do over 100 damage in a very easy combo
i see rogue lineage i reply
I think faceless is easier than shinobi cuz, it takes me 5 seconds to grapple
well theres def quirks to using shinobi more effectively, but id say faceless is more skill-based since you dont have any res to rely on, no super effective means of getting away (if someone has snap geli theyre catching up to you no problem, whereas a shinobi could grapple away to the top of the map if they wanted), youre squishier, and you have a lot of moves to keep in mind.
It's depending on who ur facing. Although faceless is more skill-based, shinobi though if u time it right which it takes like a couple minutes to master it you can just Grapple > Tripple Dagger Throw > Shadowrush > Owl Slash right? Idk the true combo and then they get on the ground agility bane, m1 m1 m1 lethality m1 m1 m1 shadowrush grapple owl slash right? Takes a lil bit to master but faceless I say is more skill based cause you can't do what shinobi does u gotta go in with the burst one shot. Instead of the consistent hits on people like shinobi gets. Faceless just has nothing on it unless ur a construct or morvid.
@@carl8468 some builds are skill based for shinobi, that only being ashiin shinobi. as an ashiin shinobi player who DOESNT macro, its really not hard to hit shoulder throw but still requires skill when faceless is just spamming moves in an order
@@turnzecki i mean yeah but faceless cant just grapple away from u though while doing all that amazing dmg. Gaia is more on how you can kill someone in time and how you escape imo. So like seeing faceless and how it can do all that dmg while being immobilized, I see it skill-based im a khei plr so i can be wrong.
You’re saying that faceless is more brain dead? What? Why do U think people macro? Because it’s hard to use?
5 words: oni, sigil, mage, faceless, dslayer
i wouldn't say sigil cause if you want to be good with it your gonna have to know how to combo
no one:
literly no one:
people who dont play rouge not understanding 90 percent of what hes saying
Get caught in a pre tene nerf dsk combo and you’re dead, even now one dsk tomeless combo with a action surge end and gg
You know your bad when your complaining about dsk of all things 💀
I think when talking about braindead oni, shinobi, and oni is up there
oni takes skill
@@Jay-il1wb All classes do
You didn’t have to do jack like that bro 💀
You really did VIPJack like that 💀💀💀
me: wants to turn on english subtitles
Netherland subtitles:
IMO, if you talking about khei, it's either uber Illusionist or uber Sigil because Illu basically has flight and very OP spells like Compress, Terra Rebus, and etc. While Sigil, you can do very nasty combos + you are very VERY tanky.
Nope, necro is the most braindead shit in khei because you have unlimited res and you don’t even have to fight the dristinis do the fighting for you
Oni mains explaining why their class is balanced when they get hyperarmor even for breathing
still takes skill
@@denzel1618 That's hilarious
@@fissured7508 it does lmao it’s harder than it looks
its pretty balanced
@@fissured7508 Play oni
abyss walker (braindead in a good way)
faceless (braindead in a meh way)
shinobi (the game is literally played for you at this point)
i just saved you all 7 minutes
i appreciate the good way , Abyss walker is so simple its like a pick up and play class if u like playing GS
What is your opinions on great sword akuma?I would really appreciate your feedback
Troll build
@@Perishade yeah I gave up on this build it’s not that good
Shinobi 100%, you can give a shinobi account to someone who has never played the game, and just explain the moves and they'll be fine, abysswalker is a close second.
nah shinobi actually takes a tiny bit of time to get the hang of it
Abysswalker isnt a close second there are mages
@@paruwup Yep takes some time to get the hang of anim cancelling if you new
hold F
Shinobi…
Next video which is the most brain dead class
Which class requires the most skill
My opinion the best rouge lineage race
Hey agamatsu, it's been 10 months since you made the 7 freshies vs 1 gaia dweller, (i was the ck necro lmao good times) just wanted to say hi 👋
hi
Faceless DEF takes more skill than shinobi. I have an ashiin shinobi alt I play on like once a month and a ashiin shinobi friend who plays only shinobi. Shinobi is overall really easy to use and braindead as shit if youre an ashiin or gaian. Auto attacks alone and tdt owl slash then running is enough to kill someone. Faceless on the other hand has to watch out if someones tryna combo them cause once they get comboed. Its ggs. Shinobi doesnt have that problem due to grapple and shadow rush
i think thats the reason why 95% of faceless players in gaia are morvid
Don’t forget they have res
Yeah.. no. Shinobi only doesn’t have to worry about rag doll combos because of shadowrush lol. If it’s a true combo that isn’t ragdoll than they’ re fine. Faceless is easy as fuck it’s literally a million damage a second
thank you for not calling faceless braindead, it really does take a good bit of practice and trial and error to fully understand how to use the class. ofc if you macroing full combos youre braindead as fuck. i only macro agility+bane since with faceless your hotbar is pretty filled up and i dont wanna stretch my fingers to 7 and 8 (thats just where i place them)
cmon its obvious
solans - insane one combo takes no skill
any necromancer: gate snail combo
dinakeri druid: sleepy build zzz action surge telorum
illusionist: yaawwnnnn dominus nocere shrieker summoning zz
snap ignis ashiin oni: lol ur gayy
ashiin shinobi: its all gangsta till he lands the shoulder throw in air combo
Hi I’m snap ignis ashiin oni
Rigan dsage
@@Dpex. rigan is just rip off dinakeri lol
Damn you did Jack dirty
omg orange????
Abyss walker. Saved u 7:29 minutes
man called oni skill reliant 💀💀
Baji wyd here
and oni is skilled based 🤡
@@itsoracle its not
@@itsoracle it’s really not lol
sigil is very easy to use and does TONS of damage
yeah the fischeran/dzin solans that can 1 combo every class in the game is def braindead
BUT to be fair tho sigil is easy to play against if you know what’s you are doing
fax no printer
@@RuneBored yeah bro if they get one hit off you’re dead, coming from a sigil main
My opinion it’s dslayer it’s a tanky class with a skill like wingsoar and it has a whole res (and it’s tanky) dragon blood makes it possible to one combo anyone if u play it right (it’s also tanky) and getting hit by 1 spear crusher can literally change the tides of a fight
How is dslayer more braindead than mages you need to know how to m1 stack consistently for dslayer to be viable which takes a bit of skill im not saying dslayer is skill based but definetely more skill based than the 3 mages especially when necro litteraly summons minions to fight for itself..
me when ff dslayers spear crushes me
simply chaotic dagger and solans and oni
Mage philo where?
Ronin is a really underrated class imo, it does pretty good damage and has fairly low cooldowns. I think it's main downside is the drawing/sheathing mechanic because it prevents you from mana shielding fast and using timeless based combos
Yeah, i also said that when i got ronin, but when someone mana shields, theres not much you can do, as snap viribus is very predictable with ronin ans can give the other a chance to strike.
Yeah, Ronin takes a bit of skill and you can really shred and just be scary. I was a SAMURAI and an Oni got scared of me!
Solans = Geli-M1 3 times, lightning blow, m1 6 times, white flame charge blow, flame charge blow, ice charge blow, and then spam spells until you get cd back, solans literally is all true combos if you lack the ability to get i frames
simply a matter of skill issue if you happen to get M1'd after geli due to hyperarmor from after ragdoll.
Also movestacking white flame charge blow isn’t true which is why you use regular flame charged blow in move stack combos.
@@animaljamer1099 you can use shoulder throw on the last three m1s then use the blow to not only let the person eat all of the white flame m1s but also get the side dish of 14 fucking white flame charge hits
@@muhamedbarzan873 geli is an optional you can throw that shit out and still get your full combo in especially if you’re an evamp and the other player isn’t
first off, you're not gonna hit m1s after ragdoll because players are not that dumb. Doing lightning charge m1s 6 times is gonna do damage but its gonna let them get up instantly, doing white fire blow after that is gonna take ages and they wont be hit. if you spam spells with sigil then you're just dumb. solans is not fair yeah i can agree but trust me its not hard to counter it bud.
uber braindead tier list next?
4:33 caught me off guard lol
bro said you have to know how to use the combos for every single class
my friends always complain about my ronin so idk man seems pretty op
ronin is OP but you have to think, especially against mages
With illusionist they can just dominus and summon shriekers which is an insta win.
And globus.................................
I thought only necromancers summon shriekers
@@Andrew_NYC hello??? ss????
4:36 NOOOOO HE AINT EVEN RESPONDINHG...
I usually play around with hybrids because its the only Way to have fun in gaia
Eh
so nobody is talking about ff nav dslayers? jesus christ
if you had played ff nav dslayer you would know that as agamatsu says there are alot of stuff you need to know of to actually be good at it like movestacking its definetely an easy class but nowhere near mages.
@@keri7031 trust me it takes no skill to use, if it ragrolls u once, you fucked
shinobis malding
Abysswalker lol
meh not rly
@@zweIious it legit is just land m1s when they got curse stacks
@@WantLessMason Ok Go ahead and land your m1s when people Will either zone you out on their dagger mobility class of hold mage shield, and leap isnt a solution because its so easy go react to man
@@WeAreCookedBros that's why i said meh
Dw stream when?
Also dsk isn’t bad it’s only bad if u only use geli and don’t m1 (m1 combo does 100 dmg and is easy to land with a rune on)
Everything is braindead
On god
Bro why would you give mages gacha spells but not literaly every other class?
He’s biased against mages lol. Notice in his videos he never plays mages, as far as I’ve seen. Any man who thinks oni takes skill is just biased
how do i play rogue lineage i got the green stamina thing on the left but now what
alt + f4 and then wait for deepwoken
1. Necro
2. Shinobi
3. FF Dslayer/FF deepknight (seriously these classes are not very different)
4. Illusionist
5. Druid
6. Faceless
7. Solans Sigil
8. Blacksmith
Rest of the classes aren’t braindead in my opinion
how on earth is ff dslayer and deepknight more braindead than illu and druid they both need a decent amount of skill to pull off the m1 stacks meanwhile u can give a philo illu or druid to a random new player explain the moves then they will be winning 98% of their future fights if you give an evamp ff dslayer or deepknight to a new player theres a 70%+ chance theyre going to wipe in 10 minutes
@@keri7031 m1 stacking is a combat bug not a skill 😑 besides its so easy to do its stupid
yester day i got inf comboed by a abyss walker wdy mean abyss walker isint the most brain dead nah you trippin
That's on you
necro is probably the worst necro only cuz you have to work for your bounds if not wait hours just to get a certain bounds and druid and illu are just better
Ronin is the most braindead. Reason> other classes that called "brain dead" need skills to complete combos. But ronin need nothing lol
No bro ronin needs skill
I mean ronin combos are easy to use yes, but it’s impossible to land due to the simple mechanic called the F key
@@kuyu4590 skill to click M1?
@@rnasterpiece4284 if you dont combo with ronin and just dash and hit well thats fucking braindead 💀
Oni high dmg and can escape pretty much any combo then one combo the person that had them in their combo
dinkari druid wit za philo play its self
dsage tomeless 😩
I used to be FF Navaran Dslayer, its actually very very skilled
Dragon roar light piercer subzero spear crusher snap ignis does like 120 dmg
@@dethari4469 except you need to m1 stack for the combo to actually even work. as a fellow ff nav dslayer i wouldnt say its "very very skilled" as the dude above says but it requires more skill than the mages and shinobi
@@keri7031 it isn’t skilled stop lying to yourself I was a ranked dslayer in gaia that shit is beyond easy not only that m1 movestacking is a combat bug not part of the game if you need to abuse it you aren’t skilled 💀
@@gaelgriffith8175 gaia does not have ranks... alot of things are combat bugs like stacking moves on shinobi and faceless m1 stacking etc... But being able to use them is a mark of a good dslayer or shinobi or faceless if you think dslayer doesnt need to abuse m1 stacking i doubt you have ever even played dslayer how are you supposed to combo if you dont m1 stack? Evamp is nessecary for any dslayer and so if you want to combo you need to learn how to m1 stack plus back when gaia did have ranks most of the games players were utter ass.
@@keri7031 gaia “had” ranks I can see your a new player nvm this whole convo
dk with emulated thunder spear creash
Deepwoken stream soon it’s November 🙏
wHats the most brain dead class?
lists of brain dead op classes: dsage, all of the mage classes, umm i forgor
The most braindead class is me >:) i am easy to use and overpowered and why is your name Deez :0
I just started playing rouge again after a couple of months oni is so hard to re learn
no joke oni is one of the braindead ones LOL
@@EternalTruth18 easily bro 100 dmg in 2 moves hell nah
@@EternalTruth18 well I mean oni relies on the movements of the other person a lot due to small hit boxes and startup times
@@smirnoff3841 rising dragon does 135 damage LOL (misogi)
just shows how carried you were
If we talking no tomeless heres my list:
THIS LIST WAS DIVIDED INTO 3 TIERS
Braindead Classes
1. Shinobi (The only class that has verticle movement, there's pretty much nothing you can do to counter them. All you can do is block or mana shield. Backstab is also strong as fuck 0.o)
2. Necro (This class is entirely build based, not skill based. If you have the all godspells philo femboy mage build then yes you will dominate)
3. Illu (Same as Necro but in my opinion not as good, because Necro I think is more of a boss raid class thanks to shriekers that honestly do more work than real players ngl. And that Howler go brr)
4. D-Slayer (I don't think I need to explain this one. You just m1 stack all your moves until they die, if they have FF OOF you is clapped)
5. Ronin (since this was a non tomeless list I had to put it up here. Without tomeless ronin destroys any nigga who squares up because of the mobility and combo extending moves)
6. D-Knight (Superhuman immense damage. Not including the fact that you can heal more than PF could back in 2019 rogue. This shit is tanky, hits hard, and heals like hashirama. If it was a lil faster it would be higher up tho)
Requires Skill but pretty good
7. D-Sigil (Really underrated in my opinion. Dark flame eruption goes through mana shield and azeals now so nothing is immune to it, plus the hitbox is actually very wide so if you try and dodge to the left or right it might still hit you. With or without runes this class does more damage than you expect with one or two moves not including its super tanky because of runes)
8. Sigil (Sigl has some very good combo extenders and has combos for every class and race including races like Fisch and Dzin. If they have solans, Its an ez one combo pretty much. High damage High tank, Its pretty much faceless but instead of mobility its tanky, and remember faceless damage before the nerf is around what sigils do now. It kinda requires skill tho)
9. Faceless (why did I put this so low? As a non macro faceless I can tell you this shit requires skill to use and does not need to keep getting nerfs. Especially because the dagger moves are bugged sometimes and don't hit)
10. Abysswalker (Now what you might be thinkin issss. oh my gOd AbYss IS bRaInDeAd BeST ClaSs WHy iS It ThIs lOw. Amma keep it a buck, this class is booty cheeks. Requires a lot more thinking to play correctly than a lot of people think, its attack speed is really not that fast and it's really only good on races like dinakeri where they can stack runes on top of it. So yeah overrated class)
11. Druid (imo after they gutted this thing so hard it's easy to beat cause all they try to do is combo extend, you don't have to be good to beat one and it just kinda lacks in damage)
The doodoo butter
12. Spy (after the nerf its just garbage without being a mobility mage dont even use it)
13. D-Sage (same as spy tbh)
everyone forgetting ronin
@@Bruh-ed5dg i had to go so i didnt finish this junk
Id place dknight over dsigil yes its very underrated but I think that it dknight deserves 6th plus its pretty braindead when you get a chainpull its like 70% of their hp gone
@@okbuddv shit you right
Mages (necros mostly) and shinobis
Deceased thinking chamber
Well abyss walker is the easiest since all you need is to press m1 if a few times
Gl hitting those and comboing
@@infxrnalsylvan well thats not hard
Btw it counters shinobi since you can hit them mid grapple (:
@@thomasmanfredi2306 just saying if your class can't combo rip
@@infxrnalsylvan fair enough
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I main ronin its the only fun I have in the game
Ay bruh ur captions are Dutch
xd
Mage classes and Solans are the most braindead easily
u play shinobi or Oni for sure
Oni you have I frames and hyper armor it’s so easy rising dragon is a true like 70 damage after one hit and demon flip m1 and m2 have a busted hitbox it has a insta exe that’s not lethality so they don’t have to be up u can do it on knocked u have pretty low cool downs and a medium sized move set so you don’t need to press like up to key 9 but it’s not to small so u have like 3 actives aswell as fucking bone breaks and rib break on 1 hit leg break on 2
To sum it up: I-frames for as long as you want, giving a permanent injury if not near a doctor, cool downs so low it’s a crime, damage so high that it makes me worry, overpowered guardbreak
1:10 exept ronin
Dinakeri and fish snarv shinobi
Most classes take no skill to fucking use, you learn shinobi in like an hour of ps then get some ganking experience, faceless is ragdoll combo, dsage is ragdoll combo, solans does too much dmg to ever be fair ( I get you get no movement but if you can kill a fucking player withing 5 seconds its not fair at all.), deep knight is literally just inf combo. You need NO skill and that shows in the meta
Edit: AND ABYSS WALKER IS HARD TO PLAY WELL? BRO EVERY CLASS IS HARD TO DO WELL IF YOU DONT KNOW WTF YOU ARE DOING, like seriously if you can combo with shinobi but you dont know how to time it it just wont work bruh the amount of brain power in that sentence was insane
sigil knight
I think dsk easily takes the most skill in the game if you're playing dark sigil *knight* , and not dark sigil *mage*
I would say between AbyssWalker and Dsk since
both requires you to use your head,
both have limited abilities
and if you suck at reading a fight then you die.
But I think abysswalker since you cant use spells.
@@CloudedSeoul Abysswalker = m1 m1 m1 m1 jump m1 m1 m1 m1 (maybe m2 idk) m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1
@@nesklaus_4489
Every other class = mana shield. block.
Swinging mindlessly doesnt do shit unless the opponent has 2 brain cells.
@@nesklaus_4489 Ok i wanna see you catch a shinobi or faceless that keeps zoning you with mana shield playing cooldowns
dsk relies on tomeless i have 0 idea what you expect them to do when all their moves are mana shieldable without ragdoll.
I don't even got to watch the video to know the answer has to be abyss walker all u have to do is m1
Its not lol u gotta know how to abyss walker not only that it had its own tech
@@imusername1 it's literally the easiest class to play and the most repetitive you can't change my mind
Can't really be braindead if it only does ONE thing which is easily countered.
@@aboutlo.2324 Keep repeating what others say without trying to fight full builds as An abysswalker yourself man
@@DarkSkinnedN so in other words braindead?yeah okay buddy your smart
poor jack
what about a non-godspell druid?
philo just removes the need for brain cells
@@smirnoff3841 true lmao
That’s not a build lol
@@smirnoff3841 no it removes the need to worry about mana charging
Ayoo.... i bet arch will nerf something
of course, d e e p k n i g h t.
1 2 3 4 combo and ur half/ a cuarter of ur health + all the health dk haves and health moves tho
Lacks mobility illu with hystericus + shrieker can kill u no matter what u r and it has the mobility dk is not the most braindead it has its compensations
@@VerifyVint Just know the controls tbh.
u need to learn your m1 stacks too which somewhat difficult to do consistently
@@VerifyVint
lacks mobility: makes up for it with 1 shot comboes
illu can kill you no matter what: illu can kill every class with that build except like a hoppa mage or
something
@@RuneBored facts
illu is easily counterable tbh
Oni is most brain dead. I am a Gaia dsage and went into a ps, decided to 1 v 1 a oni. I was fucking him up but for literally 1 combo just one he did HALF my hp. IM A GAIAN DSAGE ASWELL like bro can’t tell me that’s not brain dead
must be your first ultra, almost every class can one shot combo you its not just oni youre lucky you havent seen the philo stone illu combo yet or the dinakeri druid combo or even the ff nav dslayer combo
@@keri7031 I know that a lot of classes can 1 combo but the oni combo is consistent and takes no skill and on top of all that it can be executed in seconds.
Snap ignis howler summoning gg
Fischeran sigil maybe
Faceless is like a bit easier than shinobi imo
Ashiin ONIS tho!!!
bingus
Also why do you call it "braindead" as you clearly do not need any brain for any classes in rogue besides mage and Ronin, as you'll need to use your brain and remember your spells % or have a philo, then it's braindead and ronin mostly requires you to pend on the enemy's mistake to fail at something and then taking the oppertunity to counter his attacks
found the permafreshy
Call me a permafreshie I guess but it still is just missuse of the word in a logical way, although it would barely matter because only some people able to understand what I mean
BESIDES MAGE????? bro you have never played rogue even without philo the percentages are so damn easy
@@keri7031 Mage requires no skill but still needs a tiny bit of brainpower when fighting, as they'll need to cast thier spells correct and evade most attacks, when they have a philo there really is not a lot that they'll need skill for as even mage shield is brokenly op
@@keri7031 you’ve obviously never played mage. Lol. The entire reason mage is good is because of Godspells. Without a philo godspells are high risk high reward.
Solans 100%
SOLANS LOOOL
necromancer prob.
faceless and necro tbh
Depends
as a long time shinobi main i gotta say the class is really overrated, people think it’s super easy to but that’s not always the case. Since it’s as squishy as faceless and has shorter bane you have to be very selective of when you’re gonna pop it, mana shield counters normal shinobi entirely, it also doesn’t help that sped_mage comes back after a year just to fuck it over even more. movestacks are inconsistent you can spam your moves and they can either come out right away or not at all. the skill gap is also pretty massive when you’re going shinobi v shinobi, really obvious to tell who’s good and who’s not.
dina philo druid
Abyss walker is the most braindead class period u take tomeless away from every class so all is fair and abyss wins ez
U should think more of just the class and skills not tomeless and stuff
Debatable
Uh, no.
Classes like dsage or wraith knight would struggle in that situation. Classes like faceless, deep knight, shinobi, solans, etc wouldn’t because they don’t rely on tomeless. High damage with just m1s doesn’t make it any good. Especially bc it can’t have tomeless for whatever reason
Shinobi and Oni lol