Building my 50 Ton Forge Press from start to finish!!!(43ish)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2021
- After all the math it equaled out to almost 43 tons with the 3hp motor.
Frame material was 8" structural beam.
all measurements were mentioned in the video.
Hoses are each 4' long, diameter and fittings were chosen by the nice people at Princess auto and assembled there too.
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3HP Power pack - www.princessauto.com/en/2-sta...
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WOW! This my Man could be the most exciting video I have watched this year. Been meaning to build one for myself to start something at home. I'm so lucky to find your video. Thank you.
Outstanding build 👏!!! Looking forward to building a smaller 12-20 ton press. But great plan, simple, and heavy-duty construction.
r u crazy...look at the pressure he stopped at on a home build. Look at that top plate bending.... anything he forges will be off a lot, and wait til it pops from flexing so much
i'm happy for ya, thats a great build, i think that its going to open a whole new world of forging for you.Greetings from Italy.
It sure has!!!
Well done! Great job! I am happy for you! It's a great improvement for your workshop! And thanks for sharing! It is not so complicated, everyone can make such device with right hands and watching your video! Keep on going! :)
Thank you so much. Many more videos to come!!!
I'm very excited for you brother! I actually just got my hydraulic tank yesterday. The final piece I need to finish my own 24 ton press build. I'm looking forward to seeing your future projects.
Thanx jesse it has been a dream come true
In my best Doug Marciada "It will weld!" Great job on that sweet press. Looking forward to seeing you put it to work. Thanks for sharing! 👍⚒🔥
Thanx man its my pleasure
Beautiful build. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Thank you very much. Its still running strong and works great!!!
Awesome video
Thanks!
In Michigan we generally have 3 springs. False spring, fool’s spring and, real spring. Lol. Looks good! Excited to see what you make with it.
Me too. It has opened up a whole new world
I was thinking of the strap idea just after you tried to put it in the box the first couple of times, but then you ended up doing it anyway. BC side was definitely a lot nicer when you headed out. Press looks really good. Next time I'm at Laszlo's I'll swing by and see what big projects you're working on.
You are more than welcome buddy!!!
very cool
That is nice.
..Great build!! Ya got like being able to barter and trade to keep the cost down. That billet looks nice...!!
I traded a lot but lost nothing and thats a win win for sure
Great stuff! Very cool build! I'm definitely going to have to friend a welder, so I can get one built when I'm ready for it (probably next year.) Cheers!
Right on
I’m happy for you.
You had me worried for minute though. I thought that when you were putting the slide table on the cylinder, that the cylinder was going to fall over onto your hydraulic tank .
Handy feature with this cylinder is where the hoses screw in the side the fittings stick out so they hit the pin bracket at the bottom...it can only go so far...thank goodness
Fantastic. You've inspired me to build one - something I've always assumed would be just too expensive. I'm about to relocate half-day round the world so I'd better get that done first. That thing would be a bastard to try to take with me. Also, thanks for including all the dimensions and specs - it's a complete instruction manual.
You are very welcome!!!
Nice job on the press. I want to offer a bit of advice, its meant to be a positive you can enjoy your press for years to come.
The material selection for the carraige and top die cross member could be problematic once you really get going with the press. Your putting out
100 000 psi with your 50 ton press. The minimum yeild strength for the steel your using is 36 000 psi. Any forging thats not directly under the center of the H beam (like the front of the press opening that looks to be 1/2" on the beam plus the 1/2" plate on top. If you forge at the front of the press without a thick enough die you'll bend your press. A 50 ton press can bend 2" x 1" steel "the hard way" cold.
The H beam should be gusseted every few inches and then the H beam should be boxed in on the carrsige and top cross member. This is as much for people that might copy this press as it is for you make your build robust enough and safe. Just keep the 100 000psi ram output against the yeild strength of 1" thick plate (36 000psi) to get an idea of how substantial the build needs to be. A minimum safety factor of 3 is needed on top of that, more is better. The big blue 50 ton is an example of a press built with adequate safety factor. A bit lighter press than that could be built for hobby use. Sorry to sound all negative, I just want to see people build safe presses.
Love this thank you!!! I have sonce that build made a whole bunch of improvements to it to strengthen it all up and will continue to do so
Your math is off. You're not going to be producing 100,000 psi with that press unless the contact surface of a particular die is less than one square inch and it's only going to be that high against the die surface. You're going to be producing 50 tons pressure TOTAL, not PSI. This is going to be distributed against several square inches of steel.
can you please make a video on the improvemwents youve done? Also hav you considered upgrading the pump and the motor to get more speed out of that cylinder? more work?
awesome job on the press im gonna build my own soon i hope just subbed and liked
Whooo hooo one sub and inspiration at a time thanx man!!!!
Nice job Christian. Should serve you well.
STRONG and SLOW, the construction feels like it needs a strengthening. Cool press.
That is one awesome press you made bro, I foresee some really good things coming from your forge in the near future. Especially once you get the dies built. I was curious about how you lubricate the guides? I couldn't tell if you were using oil or grease.
Just a bit of grease. I will be bettering it as i go like a better guide system. Pinning the slide table to the ram blah blah. Ill call it an update video when the time comes
@@CGSmithing right on bro that's cool
you should put some zurich fitting/grease fittings on the high friction surfaces to prolong the working life of that beautiful forge press 1 more thing I would do is add on a foot control (GREAT WORK BROTHER) your video was very informative
Thanx man!!! Foot switch is a must one day. Ive greased up all the friction points but there isnt much for friction there. Lots of little tweaks i still need to do to her
Don't think it's needed. I built my H-frame with the sliding element so tight it knocked the mill scale off first time it was cycled. Worked just fine for over 20 years. Spray a squirt of Fluid Film on really cold days. Tight is good, sloppy is bad.
spring on the bottom for retraction. easy fix for slow retraction
Great job on the build. Was it pressing 20 tonnes or 3 thousand pounds. I got confused when you were talking about setting using that gauge. NB here. I would love to build a press, That seems too big for me. Where are you in Canada, we are near Fredericton in the country.
Its the pressure the system runs. Im down south in crowsnestpass
Looks great I’m building one as we speak! Just curious have you had any issues with the slack in the carriage? Or any issues with this design
only extra modifications i made was welding in some ribbing on the bottom die carrier and the top one to make it stronger and add some extra support.
Use a product called SLIP Plate No.1 to ease the up and down movement on the sides sliders, you will thank me later
Can you give me some information on the pump. Where did you get it? What brand and model is it? How did you configure the hoses onto it?
Thanks.
ey man. so its all from princess auto and i think i put links in the description I think. ill go have a look
Do you have any clue as to how absorbent your cuticles and nail beds are ?!!!!!!!
Good! But what about log splitter? Is it Dead after one year of useful?
I have a small 4ton electric logsplitter that i turned into a press. Its still working till this day
So cool does it run off 220 or 120
220v we could go with 115 but that opened up other issues
I'm very suprised you didn't put re inforced guests inside the flanges?
I 100% will need to. Im slowly building the dies and stuff still. But i will have to reinforce it for sure
50 ton press on short circut 70s wire sketchy at best. A flux cored wire such as dual shield would have been what a journeyman would trust. It looks great just keep an eye on them brittle ass welds.
Stiffeners at point of pressure to keep the flange from flexing
i have since this was built made a few critical improvements and it has changed the game for sure!!! sorry for the late reply
where did you get the 50ton press at?
Check the description. Princess auto
Ted Mosby twin brother? 😅 nice video!
Maaaaaaàn lolol im not even surprized anymore hahaha
20:30 can you please explain by new in detail video close up how did you do that Psi max adjusting & what did you expected or expecting by that adjustment exactly, did you try to cut off moter power automatically within reach that psi level, or did it by mechanically by that direction control valve? I'm not a native English speaking person, so that's why I can't exactly understand one shot like this, the video presentation is not perfectly cleared at that adjustment moment. Don't miss understand, It's not your problem, it's about my English knowledge listen problem.
The motor and control valve have a max pressure setting. When it hits that it bypasses in the control valve if im not mistaken. I adjusted the pressure to get higher tonnage when at full working pressure. I hope that helps? They give an instruction book with the control valve that tells you which way to turn the adjustment nut to increase pressure or lower it
@@CGSmithing yes it very helpful thanks for all, one of my friend also trying to made this kind of press machine, he all read a main mettle frame, yesterday he & me buy that kind of direction control valve, but it's not exactly same type to your one, it's a second hand one used for excavators, even I'm also not a hydraulic expert, I'm a electronic technician, but I can understand some and have few experience with smaller size scaler level hydraulic, I can imagine literally theoretical things.
Be worth building one of those just to crush stuff😆
Yes...and yes
Very cool!! Check out Fire Creek Forge on TH-cam. He just put together a foot peddle for his press.
It’s like getting another hand by using the foot peddle.
Great content maaan!!!💪🏼💪🏼🔥🔥🔥👍🏻
I've got nothing against hydraulics. But I wonder why no one ever makes a pneumatic press for forging?
Pneumatic is less efficient less powerful than hydraulics compared tonone another and needs lubrication
@@CGSmithing certainly no more dependent on lubrication than hydraulics. Moving parts wear out. Lubricating them reduces the wear. A single air ride spring bag as used by an 18 wheeler can press from about 10 to 20 tons. And not need anything more than about 90 pounds of air pressure.
just did a search. You can buy a 50 ton pneumatic press for about the same cost as you spent building that hydraulic rig. There appear to be advantages and disadvantages to both systems. So the deciding factor would be the needs of the end user.
50 ton no big deal
Less talk, more building. Jeez, I hate it when you guys feel the need for us to know it gets effen cold in Canada.
I hear ya, but remember this is my video its my time and its your decision to watch or not. This video has every single measurement in it for any person to copy without having to go pay for the plans...you are welcome.
dude I hate those guys that try to tell people mistakes and what they do wrong and shit but man why did you put your work so high, and max out at 3100 on a 3000 home build. Also your top is bending man...That ain't good at all
I would absolutlely LOVE if you could explain what you mean...one thing for sure...top DOES NOT BEND...has not bent...soooo explain pls
Don’t have a lot of room for that press to move up… especially if you want removable dies
got 4 sets of removables on mine
lol cut it out. freedom press the road to personal sovereignty. be the king your will be done by your hand. celebrate the man.
I prefer my work piece to stay in place and hydraulic cylinder to move from the top, more control over ur working piece , also I would put some guards over ur hydraulic hoses !