You forgot the other physical component. They have to say "oopsie" 3 times while doing deep knee bends on one foot with their right index finger touching the center of the top of their head. (Meanwhile, in the background, a check for a couple hundred thousand gets cut for a "campaign contribution")
It's actually the first time I have heard the technical details of the fire. It's usually just mentioned as a fire in the engine room without any of the actual story.
I work at a cruise ship port and yeah, it looks like hell. 99% old boring people who don’t know how to dispose of their vacation budget any other way, 1% the most boring newly weds
@@ChristopheBillietnow ive never been on a cruise but i know i would hate it. But are there smaller ships that can take people to Mexico? I know in America we still have riverboats that can go from Pittsburgh all the way to New Orleans, now that sound fun to me not a floating Las Vegas
Carnival Cruises has turned into the goto vacation for hood folk.. like groups of fifteen with dreads that just fight and steal. You couldn't pay me to go on a cruise post-2020
@martinc.720 Especially because alcohol makes you pee like crazy, and too much makes you puke. So, a bunch of angry drunk people with no toilets peeing puking and pooping. Great idea.
Thank you for the excellent research, and laying out this story so clearly. I remember the news stories, but this is the first time I've ever heard such detail. Very impressive presentation.
Agreed. Very engaging presentation that I find very educational & layed out very well, so one can understand the mechanisms & the role they play as the story progresses even when one such as myself lacks in the knowledge of ships & other structures designs.
I would love to know the emergency codes for a ship before I set sail on one. Sometimes they are obvious though. I think MS Estonia was 'Mister Starlight'. I would start to be concerned if the announcement: 'Mrs Walrus Cucumber, please report to the purser's desk.' ever came over the tannoy.
I was hired by the Carnival and was about to join the Triumph,but at a last minute,the cruise line changed it to the older Fantasy...I was soooo disappointed,until I learned of this incident. So I guess I dodged a bullet.
As a marine engineer I can safely say this entire thing was a clusterfuck. The fire was allowed to get out of control, multiple gensets were "down for maintenance", the ER engine room was unmanned at the time of the fire (completely illegal and inexcusable) not to mention seeming impossible on a ship with a crew of over 1000 man crew! We never leave the ER unmanned sailing with a crew of 12! Not sure how much of this is true and how much got butchered the media, but the crew was either completely incompetent or the information is wrong as the news manages to completely screw up information like this every singel day🤦
You can view the final report from the Bahamian authorities online, but if I remember right the biggest issue was two fold a) the control cables between the engine rooms and the control room were damaged by the fire and b) the electrical bus was damaged and c) there was a single point of failure.
There are ships sailing with unmanned engine rooms all over the world. Passenger ships are different. They should have a minimum of 2 in the ECR. They do not need someone in the engine room. Here is a question. Why did they cover the fuel lines with spray shields? Why so many fuel leaks all of a sudden.
I've never been on a cruise ship. Only ever slept on an overnight ferry in the Philippines, where the bunks were on completely open decks, it was a beautiful crossing to Palawan. However: one thing I know I will never do is, return to a tiny box with no way out in the depth of the bow of a ship when it begins to show signs of trouble. Gives me chills just thinking about it.
I mean.... despite the problems they handled it fairly well. Got the critical folks evacuated, brought engineers on board to fix the sewage issue to make the last day or two bearable, fully refunded folks trips and got them transportation to get back on their way home, slipped them a few bucks extra to cover what would basically be new clothes that probably got ruined on the sewage barge it became, etc etc. Even had the big man out to apologize. As far as disasters go this was by far probably one of the better compensations handed out and would at least be adequate.
Honestly given how many things had to go spectacularly wrong for this to happen they handled it kinda well. They evacuated the woman who needed it, got supplies from nearby ships (leaving them on the borderline if anything went wrong), arranged transfers and compensated all passengers (not just per room by the sound of it). Yes it is a good PR fix and the minimum that should be expected but how often have people had to fight for this? This whole thing could have been worse though. Imagin this but in the middle of the Atlantic of Pacific? Or just a notoriously dangerous patch of water? I live not that far from Bass Strait and the roaring 40s that is freaking dangerous man.
@@JohnHoranzynot really. It's quite often for any vessel to have one or two engines out of operation. Also it wasn't an engine problem it was oil leakage problem which occurred because pipes weren't outfitted with protection due to, most likely, oversight in vessel's design.
@@Grigorii-j7z According to the video the shields were put up over the flexible couplings so they could defer the replacement of those couplings. The flex couplings were still leaking flammable liquid.
@@JohnHoranzy as I understood the problem was with underdeck pipes, which weren't covered with protective shield due to limited space. Basically those pipes have a leak and due to pressure start spraying fuel on hot engine above.
Oh yeah. The Sewol taught us a lot. But I will say there is a culture thing there too, they were sitting in water, in the dark and still not leaving because of a cultural respect and deference to leadership figures. Most of us reading this don't have that sort of culture. (don't get me started on cultural influence) Essentially if you put us in that situation we would feel confident in persuing our instincts and finding safety.
Not to mention the Titanic "go back to your cabin, nothing's wrong", and the Costa Concordia "go back to your cabin, it's just an electrical short, all is well". I'm absolutely getting my vest and standing on deck. Carnival had a moderate fire, I think in the smoke stack, a few years ago and they said the same thing and everyone ignored them. Fool me once...
What's the worst outcome? Returning to your cabin under those circumstances could get you trapped. Staying on the open deck could get you a cold. Easy choice.
What exactly were they suing for? A poor trip? There was no wrongful death or disfigurement. They refunded them in full, gave them all 500 bucks for any losses; and; oh, kept the boat afloat and got them back safely to a harbor. Sure you could say pain and suffering…. but other than the sewage issue (which they didn’t ignore; they attempted to do everything in their ability to make things as good as possible), and lack of HVAC. It was a miracle that no one was seriously injured or killed. The crew and company reacted very appropriately.
Honestly unless I had a medical issue or an injury, I'd be satisfied with the compensation. It certainly was an unpleasant experience, but you can't forget that up to that point you GOT to enjoy a normal cruise. And you returned home for free, with your ticket reimbursed and 500 bucks in your pocket. Sounds fair to me.
6:28 "Passengers enjoy the smell of the ocean" The phrase "Enjoy while it lasts" comes to mind. I don't know how you were able to deliver that line and "to everyone's relief" with a straight face lol
I went on a cruise ship when i was 17, with my friend and his parents. We quickly got to know all the other kids our age and got up to a tonne of mischief. We discovered that one of the outside bars shut at 2am and would be entirely empty and we could go behind the bar, turn on the ... gas? for the beer lines and even though they had removed the taps we could insert something into them and beer would come out. Cue finding cups and a bunch of us kids getting drunk, we were sneaky about it and did this nearly every night of the cruise without getting busted. This also turned a bunch of us into night owls, who'd sleep most of the day and get up to shenanigans at night. We hardly ever saw my friends parents as we were operating on different day night cycles, and they were too busy having their own fun to pay much attention. There was also a tropical storm we had to avoid and miss one of the destinations, and they closed all outside decks for a day. We found a way outside and that all furniture had been tied down. With the heavy wind we discovered we could unsecure the plastic tables, have them upside down on the deck with the four legs sticking in the air.... then flip them up, hold onto two legs and put your feet on the other two legs and the wind would turn it into a makeshift sail and hurtle you down the deck. The deck was curved so you'd hit the railing and be slowed down slowly until you got to the center. We got to do this a few times each before we were busted, names taken and threatened that the captain would speak to us (which seemed like a very serious thing at the time). I guess it was incredibly dangerous... but so much fun. I've never bothered going on a cruise as an adult because i will never have so much fun and mischief as i had as a kid lol
No one could bypass a video with this title 😂 I do so enjoy your uploads. I am not a mechanically or technically minded person, but even I can learn so much from your clear explanations and descriptions of every relevant part of the disasters you narrate The work you put into these is phenomenal. The research, the script, the editing and creativity… Just wonderful!….
I did take a 2 week Med Cruise in the late 70's and it was a very good experience; however, it only had a 1700 passenger capacity and the docurum was much better back then. I can't imagine being packed in like a sardine on these 5000 person floating cities they call a cruise ship considering the current lack of manners and decorum. It is my idea of hell and not a vacation.
"Refurbishment" - You mean a large team of "underpaid" workers, indifferent to how much they were paid, had to clean up that oversized porta-potty ! If this was the 1950s, I would have towed it to where they parked all those WW2 warships subjected to those early nuke tests !
Carnival really did need to send more tugboats immediately, and Portapotties. Six knots an hour over such a distance was just not enough. This ship was a health emergency. As a nurse, I'm shocked that human waste from 3000+ people was allowed to slosh around. So dangerous from a nursing perspective.
Even if they had a way to get portapotties on board they would have been quickly overwhelmed. They'd need *hundreds upon hundreds* of them and there's just no feasible way to do that; it's quicker to get the ship to port. A lot of passengers made things worse by still using toilets or their shower instead of peeing / pooping in a trash bin and dumping it overboard. I haven't finished the video yet so he may have covered this but there were a lot of challenges with getting the tug to port and the Gulf's current wasn't doing them any favors early on. Ultimately at the end of the day this was a freak and unprecedent situation that's been corrected in newer cruise designs.
Great Video again👍 I never heard about this incident. After all, Crew was working super👍 Of course, it is not what you expect on a cruising trip. I really don‘t understand these spraycovers!! You will never find the leak. Usually heavy oil is not to ignite so easy. ( I thought?). For me, using Spraycovers is like useing ducktape, instead of real maintenance. Great Video, can’t wait for the next 👍👍😘
First officer: Captain it’s been two days, and people are miserable and angry as hell! What do we do? Captain: Let’s get them all drunk! Nothing bad ever happens when pissed off people are drunk! 😂
Thank you sir. Another excellent video. I've seen this event covered before, but the nastier aspect of it was sensationalized. You have made a professional, detailed description of exactly what happened and why. We're not children. Thank you for addressing us as intelligent adults. Happy sailing all! 🌹⚓
A work colleague of a friend loved going on cruises, & was on a P&O cruise to the Philippines, the South China Sea & Hong Kong (this was almost 40yrs ago), when the ship's engines broke down. Don't know whether it was a fire or not, but similar things happened when it lost electricity. What made it worse was that it was drifting towards the Vietnamese coast when small vessels carrying pirates came close to boarding the stricken ship!
My husband and i took a Norwegian cruise from Seattle to Alaska and we had a wonderful time. I agree that a vacation with 3000 others was weird, but it worked for us. He proposed to me on that trip. Now that we are older, camping is our thing.
As someone who has over six months at sea going on cruises as a passenger, just avoid carnival (and the companies they own, like Costa Concordia). No line is perfect, but they have the worst safety record by far. The only problem I've ever experienced in 20 years of cruising was a search and rescue delay when someone with terminal cancer chose to leave the cruise before the rest of us.
Gerry Cahill didn't have to come face the customers in person to apilogize, but he did. It sounds like every crew member handled this the best they could and refunds were given out, so I hope nobody sued them or anything. But of course they did. The safety protocols were followed so no engineers were boiled or asphyxiated, overall it was the best possible outcome when total disaater could have been one tiny mistake away.
Man I miss the days of the old luxury liners, which carried around 500-1K passengers tops, cabins were more spacious & service was excellent. Young people today don’t even know what excellent service is, much less how to take proper responsibility for their kids. I’d rather book a no frills passage on a merchant ship than take a cruise with 3000 drunks & unruly children. No thank you.
You did a good job of exposing the technical details. I'm just a little shocked that there wasn't more redundancy on a power and sewage service. One leaky line, one small contained fire and the whole thing is sideways?
I love it free drinks for everybody.... 2 hours later everybody's drunk and smashing the crap out of the boat that's so funny😂 throwing red bags at everybody oh you don't know how bad I wish I would have been there😂
when i saw this on the news i was only thinking "why not shit in a bucket and throw it overboard?" or at least sit over the railing and shit, works on fishinboats in a pinch ^^
This is a good reason to take road trips instead of ocean cruises... I live in Galveston and actually know people who were on this venture... It is a nope for my vacation plans lol
A few days without a toilet and people shit and piss everywhere. How would these helpless and infantile tourists survive if they got into REAL trouble. In Finland, fortunately, almost all men (and some women as well) do military service (at least 6 months), so everyone knows how to get along without all the possible comforts of civilization. Oh, what kind of breeches.
CEO should have thrown a couple years of his salary into the kitty for payouts to the passengers *and* crew. Crew had to suffer the same conditions while continuing to do their jobs.
Been on Carnival, NCL, and Royal Caribbean. Never had anything less that a great time on Carnival, never had a good time on NCL, and Royal fell right in the middle. Absolutely best crew are on Carnival. Of course, I don't do the cheapo 3 day booze cruises on Carnival...Mediterranean, Baltic, Alaska, trans-Pacific, and 10 day Caribbean have a different demographic of passenger who's not there just to get drunk.
65 and NEVER had a desire to go on a cruise...It looks boring as hell...When you read reviews of the current cruise lines; there are a lot of disgruntled customers.
5:50 You spent 30 seconds needlessly plodding back through all of the amenities the ship offered. My eyes are still rolling around in the back of my head lol
In 1980 I was on a Carnival cruise that suffered a similar fate that we were without power for 45 hours. The difference was that Carnival never offered any apology or any compensation or credit on a future cruise. I have never sailed their brand since or ever will again. This doesn't surprise me.
My very first cruise was aboard Carnival Triumph .... Then the following year it made world news with being stranded at sea with no water or power for days .
IF a flexible fuel line is fit for purpose, it will only last a certain amount of time in operation before it degrades and needs replacement. A reasonable person would expect that this period of time would be on a maintenance schedule and part of routine preventative maintenance. If fuel lines are going to be near hot objects, then from factory, the manufacturer would be obligated to build in the required safe guards by using solid piping and/or shielding. The Australian Navy royally screwed the pooch some years ago, when they had solid,high pressure fuel lines on the HMAS Westralia replaced with flexible hoses not rated for the application........the resulting engine room fire was horrific with fatalities.
I have taken ONE cruise and it was on THIS boat. Fortunately it wasn't this cruise. The ship was shabby even then. The pools were closed after the first night. There was a murder on my deck the second night. A couple of nights the entertainment was cancelled. I was bored to death the entire week. Carnival Cruise Lines is the trailer park of cruise ships. I am never going to go on any ocean cruise again although the ones on the rivers look interesting.
Certainly it is rare to hear a company as large as Carnival seemingly doing the right thing at the end of such an event. That was the one thing that was most notable to me anyway; CEO waiting, apologizing and getting everyone taken care of, bravo. Top marks, a shame this was not highlighted more. Christ is the only Way to the Truth to have Life.
"Guys the plumbing isn't working, offer them unlimited booze" What could go wrong lol
Whoever made that suggestion was probably really drunk at the time!😂😂
Of all cruise lines to do that on....Carnival is the very last I'd want to give free open bar to a bunch of pissed off stranded passengers
“They closed the open bar after 2 hours” put me on the floor 💀 😂
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I can't stop laughing that is so funny can you believe they did that😂😂😂😂
Every deck can be a poop deck under certain circumstances
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Ha! Perfect 💯
They are just one huge petri dish.
Puke deck is below by the kitchen
Every deck was a poop deck on the shit ship.
Those engineers that got the toilets working again must've been seen as angels by the passengers at that point.
Nyah, people are so worried about what’s wrong with, they are so entitled and think they are owed
@@HeadNtheClouds wha?
Under American law, if a cruise line says "oopsie" three times they get legal immunity from any liability.
3 strikes n shiz
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Same with our politicians.
@@inappropriatejohnson I did not know. Thanks for this information 👍
You forgot the other physical component. They have to say "oopsie" 3 times while doing deep knee bends on one foot with their right index finger touching the center of the top of their head. (Meanwhile, in the background, a check for a couple hundred thousand gets cut for a "campaign contribution")
Most comprehensive "what the heck happened" video I have seen regarding the infamous poop boat.
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It's actually the first time I have heard the technical details of the fire. It's usually just mentioned as a fire in the engine room without any of the actual story.
We only get one poop boat per life time so better savour it.
@@mothMagnets 🤢🤮 no thank you! 😂
saw a better one that shows more of the poop-related drama lol what a nightmare
A holiday with 3,000 people is my idea of hell on earth.
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Like for real, stuck in a mall with thousands of people more than 24 hours is actually so far from relaxation.
100% agree
Particularly if they’re drunk and obnoxious
I work at a cruise ship port and yeah, it looks like hell.
99% old boring people who don’t know how to dispose of their vacation budget any other way, 1% the most boring newly weds
What a horrible way to spend your free time.
And then a disaster happens.
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had to send this joke to my mom who knows a horrible person who just happens to be into cruises!
Lol
@@ChristopheBillietnow ive never been on a cruise but i know i would hate it. But are there smaller ships that can take people to Mexico? I know in America we still have riverboats that can go from Pittsburgh all the way to New Orleans, now that sound fun to me not a floating Las Vegas
@@Mr.Blonde92 There are the newest with 9000 Pax including crew. Now that would be fun.
As soon as you said there was an open bar, I knew it would make everything worse. At least they closed it quickly
Carnival Cruises has turned into the goto vacation for hood folk.. like groups of fifteen with dreads that just fight and steal. You couldn't pay me to go on a cruise post-2020
Giving alcohol to 3,000 angry people. What could possibly go wrong?!
@martinc.720
Especially because alcohol makes you pee like crazy, and too much makes you puke. So, a bunch of angry drunk people with no toilets peeing puking and pooping. Great idea.
@@martinc.720I paid good money for that free alcohol
@@kamakaziozzie3038
Got paid and suffered*
The captain must have really hated everyone on board to announce an open bar
Seriously.
That's like open contempt for your crew.
Imagine how quickly you'd run out and then have over 2,000 angry drunk people on board.
Right? That's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
Yeah, two free drinks per passenger was probably smarter...loosen them up, don't turn them into narcissists
No way, the rowdiest of the rowsdies were sleeping peacefully that way. Booze is hardly an amphetamine; quite the opposite.
Thank you for the excellent research, and laying out this story so clearly. I remember the news stories, but this is the first time I've ever heard such detail. Very impressive presentation.
Thanks, I really appreciate that
Agreed. Very engaging presentation that I find very educational & layed out very well, so one can understand the mechanisms & the role they play as the story progresses even when one such as myself lacks in the knowledge of ships & other structures designs.
@wendycregan2147 👍🏻
Never heard the words luxury and carnival cruise used in the same sentence before this.
"I want to go on a luxury cruise, therefore I will avoid Carnival Cruise Lines"
There, now that's twice you've heard it. :)
Yeah...i had a nice trip on triumph...but i would not brag about it to rich friends
Thought this was the number one cruise line in the world, but it turns out its number two 😂
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Number poo
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Oh dear😂😂😂.
*My friends in South Texas, who takes several cruises a year, say they’re the Walmart of cruise ships.*
I kept wondering who this guy El Fateem was before I finally figured out it was their fire callout to the crew -- Alpha Team.
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I would love to know the emergency codes for a ship before I set sail on one. Sometimes they are obvious though. I think MS Estonia was 'Mister Starlight'.
I would start to be concerned if the announcement: 'Mrs Walrus Cucumber, please report to the purser's desk.' ever came over the tannoy.
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So funny bro😂
I was hired by the Carnival and was about to join the Triumph,but at a last minute,the cruise line changed it to the older Fantasy...I was soooo disappointed,until I learned of this incident. So I guess I dodged a bullet.
Still,makes me sad to see this ship gone that way.
No, you dodged a big bucket of shit
You dodged a turd 😂😂😂
As a marine engineer I can safely say this entire thing was a clusterfuck. The fire was allowed to get out of control, multiple gensets were "down for maintenance", the ER engine room was unmanned at the time of the fire (completely illegal and inexcusable) not to mention seeming impossible on a ship with a crew of over 1000 man crew! We never leave the ER unmanned sailing with a crew of 12! Not sure how much of this is true and how much got butchered the media, but the crew was either completely incompetent or the information is wrong as the news manages to completely screw up information like this every singel day🤦
You can view the final report from the Bahamian authorities online, but if I remember right the biggest issue was two fold a) the control cables between the engine rooms and the control room were damaged by the fire and b) the electrical bus was damaged and c) there was a single point of failure.
There are ships sailing with unmanned engine rooms all over the world. Passenger ships are different. They should have a minimum of 2 in the ECR. They do not need someone in the engine room. Here is a question. Why did they cover the fuel lines with spray shields? Why so many fuel leaks all of a sudden.
I don’t know but if it’s true it would not surprise me. These greedy companies will do anything to save a buck
2 more bartenders no worries 2 more engineers what the heck you'll bankrupt us! 😊
I've never been on a cruise ship. Only ever slept on an overnight ferry in the Philippines, where the bunks were on completely open decks, it was a beautiful crossing to Palawan. However: one thing I know I will never do is, return to a tiny box with no way out in the depth of the bow of a ship when it begins to show signs of trouble. Gives me chills just thinking about it.
The way you say “deck” had me double-taking at the beginning 😂 I do love your accent and narration
That ship has a big deck. 🤣
I've never understood the appeal of a hotel that also gives you the option of drowning.
And no way to leave.
All hotels have the option of drowning.
@ With cruise ships however, it’s more of a feature than an option. That and possibly getting food poisoning.
I mean.... despite the problems they handled it fairly well. Got the critical folks evacuated, brought engineers on board to fix the sewage issue to make the last day or two bearable, fully refunded folks trips and got them transportation to get back on their way home, slipped them a few bucks extra to cover what would basically be new clothes that probably got ruined on the sewage barge it became, etc etc. Even had the big man out to apologize. As far as disasters go this was by far probably one of the better compensations handed out and would at least be adequate.
Captain: Everything is under control.
Me: Oh it's THAT BAD!
The captain: Women and children first.
The men: Nothing suspicious here.
Honestly given how many things had to go spectacularly wrong for this to happen they handled it kinda well. They evacuated the woman who needed it, got supplies from nearby ships (leaving them on the borderline if anything went wrong), arranged transfers and compensated all passengers (not just per room by the sound of it). Yes it is a good PR fix and the minimum that should be expected but how often have people had to fight for this?
This whole thing could have been worse though. Imagin this but in the middle of the Atlantic of Pacific? Or just a notoriously dangerous patch of water? I live not that far from Bass Strait and the roaring 40s that is freaking dangerous man.
I agree with you but the deferred maintenance was just pure stupid simple greed.
@@JohnHoranzynot really. It's quite often for any vessel to have one or two engines out of operation.
Also it wasn't an engine problem it was oil leakage problem which occurred because pipes weren't outfitted with protection due to, most likely, oversight in vessel's design.
@@Grigorii-j7z According to the video the shields were put up over the flexible couplings so they could defer the replacement of those couplings. The flex couplings were still leaking flammable liquid.
@@JohnHoranzy as I understood the problem was with underdeck pipes, which weren't covered with protective shield due to limited space. Basically those pipes have a leak and due to pressure start spraying fuel on hot engine above.
@@Grigorii-j7z why do you keep making excuses for these people that purposely left a safety hazard with leaking fuel unrepaired?
Waterline Stories is some of the best content on TH-cam, just in terms of interesting well researched and presented information and quality of work.
Thanks mate. 😀👍🏻
Agreed! Also, the presentation is always superb (I just want to re-highlight the presentation); very watchable!
Your advice to ignore the captain's announcement is a wise thing to do. People need to know when a fun cruise has become a fight for survival.
Oh yeah. The Sewol taught us a lot. But I will say there is a culture thing there too, they were sitting in water, in the dark and still not leaving because of a cultural respect and deference to leadership figures. Most of us reading this don't have that sort of culture. (don't get me started on cultural influence) Essentially if you put us in that situation we would feel confident in persuing our instincts and finding safety.
Not to mention the Titanic "go back to your cabin, nothing's wrong", and the Costa Concordia "go back to your cabin, it's just an electrical short, all is well". I'm absolutely getting my vest and standing on deck. Carnival had a moderate fire, I think in the smoke stack, a few years ago and they said the same thing and everyone ignored them. Fool me once...
What's the worst outcome? Returning to your cabin under those circumstances could get you trapped. Staying on the open deck could get you a cold. Easy choice.
As someone who worked on a cruise ship I know of this event and can imagine how it must have been for the poor crew, especially housekeeping...
I'm only at 6:45 and it's already my worst nightmare and the "incident" hasn't even happened yet.
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18:20 here - it gets worse. oh my god
Oh, my goodness. I can’t imagine enduring this. I’m surprised there were no outbreaks of diseases. Great detail as always.
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OMG, I know! Those people were even @ risk of cholera bcz of all the sewage. It's the most disgusting thing I can ever imagine.
nah not long enough timeframe
Wow. They only give these people $118K to split between several thousand people, but it's no problem to do a $200 million dollar refit on the boat.
The law didn't say they had to give more. Its not saying there poor its the law
It will always be the shit boat!
What exactly were they suing for? A poor trip? There was no wrongful death or disfigurement. They refunded them in full, gave them all 500 bucks for any losses; and; oh, kept the boat afloat and got them back safely to a harbor. Sure you could say pain and suffering…. but other than the sewage issue (which they didn’t ignore; they attempted to do everything in their ability to make things as good as possible), and lack of HVAC. It was a miracle that no one was seriously injured or killed. The crew and company reacted very appropriately.
@@ryanfischer6550 finally someone understands
Honestly unless I had a medical issue or an injury, I'd be satisfied with the compensation. It certainly was an unpleasant experience, but you can't forget that up to that point you GOT to enjoy a normal cruise. And you returned home for free, with your ticket reimbursed and 500 bucks in your pocket. Sounds fair to me.
Casually saying "shitty cruise" 😂😂
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I bet the lawyer who represented the plaiintifs got more than $30.00.
Of course he did. He spent years in court representing them. You're not a communist, are you?
6:28 "Passengers enjoy the smell of the ocean"
The phrase "Enjoy while it lasts" comes to mind.
I don't know how you were able to deliver that line and "to everyone's relief" with a straight face lol
I went on a cruise ship when i was 17, with my friend and his parents. We quickly got to know all the other kids our age and got up to a tonne of mischief. We discovered that one of the outside bars shut at 2am and would be entirely empty and we could go behind the bar, turn on the ... gas? for the beer lines and even though they had removed the taps we could insert something into them and beer would come out. Cue finding cups and a bunch of us kids getting drunk, we were sneaky about it and did this nearly every night of the cruise without getting busted. This also turned a bunch of us into night owls, who'd sleep most of the day and get up to shenanigans at night. We hardly ever saw my friends parents as we were operating on different day night cycles, and they were too busy having their own fun to pay much attention.
There was also a tropical storm we had to avoid and miss one of the destinations, and they closed all outside decks for a day. We found a way outside and that all furniture had been tied down. With the heavy wind we discovered we could unsecure the plastic tables, have them upside down on the deck with the four legs sticking in the air.... then flip them up, hold onto two legs and put your feet on the other two legs and the wind would turn it into a makeshift sail and hurtle you down the deck. The deck was curved so you'd hit the railing and be slowed down slowly until you got to the center. We got to do this a few times each before we were busted, names taken and threatened that the captain would speak to us (which seemed like a very serious thing at the time). I guess it was incredibly dangerous... but so much fun.
I've never bothered going on a cruise as an adult because i will never have so much fun and mischief as i had as a kid lol
Solid work and Farrout Ma!
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No one could bypass a video with this title 😂
I do so enjoy your uploads. I am not a mechanically or technically minded person, but even I can learn so much from your clear explanations and descriptions of every relevant part of the disasters you narrate
The work you put into these is phenomenal. The research, the script, the editing and creativity…
Just wonderful!….
Thanks, I really appreciate that 👍🏻 this is precisely what I aim for
Couldn't agree more.
Once again with another hit title. I love it.
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This channel is the gold standard for maritime stories. Well done, cap'n 😁
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Yes, I love waterline stories!
Nothing against this channel but if you think this is the gold standard you should really check out Brick Immortar
The captain that suggest an open bar on a ship that has no working sanitation should be fired lol
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For real; what potential brain surgeon thought that one up???😁🤘🐦
Yup. A bunch of drunk sick people scurrying around in the middle of the ocean. What could go wrong
If poo starts backing up into your hotel, you can just leave. Land based vacationing is where it's at.
I did take a 2 week Med Cruise in the late 70's and it was a very good experience; however, it only had a 1700 passenger capacity and the docurum was much better back then. I can't imagine being packed in like a sardine on these 5000 person floating cities they call a cruise ship considering the current lack of manners and decorum. It is my idea of hell and not a vacation.
As a salty sailor....you couldn't pay me enough to get onto one of these floating coffins ! 🚫
- How unforgettable do you want your cruise to be?
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"Head back to your room" = Head to the lifeboat NOW!"
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@@waterlinestoriesthe advice would be funny if it wouldn't have saved so many casualties on other cruise and ferry disasters.
If you can’t trust the captain, STAY HOME. Mutiny at sea is not good. CHAOS.😢
Omg, the title of this video has me doubled over, SQUATTING PARTY is just so on point! LMAO!!!
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This deturd me from any future cruise!
"Refurbishment" - You mean a large team of "underpaid" workers, indifferent to how much they were paid, had to clean up that oversized porta-potty !
If this was the 1950s, I would have towed it to where they parked all those WW2 warships subjected to those early nuke tests !
Carnival really did need to send more tugboats immediately, and Portapotties. Six knots an hour over such a distance was just not enough. This ship was a health emergency. As a nurse, I'm shocked that human waste from 3000+ people was allowed to slosh around. So dangerous from a nursing perspective.
Even if they had a way to get portapotties on board they would have been quickly overwhelmed. They'd need *hundreds upon hundreds* of them and there's just no feasible way to do that; it's quicker to get the ship to port. A lot of passengers made things worse by still using toilets or their shower instead of peeing / pooping in a trash bin and dumping it overboard.
I haven't finished the video yet so he may have covered this but there were a lot of challenges with getting the tug to port and the Gulf's current wasn't doing them any favors early on. Ultimately at the end of the day this was a freak and unprecedent situation that's been corrected in newer cruise designs.
Side note, I just checked the offical report and they had 4 tugs working to bring her in plus a 5th on standby so it wasn't a case of a single tug
Great Video again👍 I never heard about this incident. After all, Crew was working super👍 Of course, it is not what you expect on a cruising trip. I really don‘t understand these spraycovers!! You will never find the leak. Usually heavy oil is not to ignite so easy. ( I thought?). For me, using Spraycovers is like useing ducktape, instead of real maintenance. Great Video, can’t wait for the next 👍👍😘
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First officer: Captain it’s been two days, and people are miserable and angry as hell! What do we do?
Captain: Let’s get them all drunk! Nothing bad ever happens when pissed off people are drunk!
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Starts new route and then decides they dont have time to do maintenance perfect example of putting the cart before the horse.
My husband loves the idea of a cruise...
I suggested he take his mates...
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The ads shown to me during this video were all for cruises 😂
Thank you sir. Another excellent video. I've seen this event covered before, but the nastier aspect of it was sensationalized. You have made a professional, detailed description of exactly what happened and why. We're not children. Thank you for addressing us as intelligent adults. Happy sailing all! 🌹⚓
A work colleague of a friend loved going on cruises, & was on a P&O cruise to the Philippines, the South China Sea & Hong Kong (this was almost 40yrs ago), when the ship's engines broke down. Don't know whether it was a fire or not, but similar things happened when it lost electricity. What made it worse was that it was drifting towards the Vietnamese coast when small vessels carrying pirates came close to boarding the stricken ship!
My husband and i took a Norwegian cruise from Seattle to Alaska and we had a wonderful time. I agree that a vacation with 3000 others was weird, but it worked for us. He proposed to me on that trip. Now that we are older, camping is our thing.
This is a fantastic advert to not go on a cruise, the thought of a cruise ship is bad enough but this is even more crap.
Great lighthearted story😂
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As someone who has over six months at sea going on cruises as a passenger, just avoid carnival (and the companies they own, like Costa Concordia). No line is perfect, but they have the worst safety record by far. The only problem I've ever experienced in 20 years of cruising was a search and rescue delay when someone with terminal cancer chose to leave the cruise before the rest of us.
One thing for sure Jerry Cahil is a brave man meeting the ship.
My wife suggested a cruise for a vacation. I immediately thought about this incident, and several others like it. Hard nope.
$30 a passenger what a joke They should’ve gotten free cruises not $500 plus $30 That’s why I never go on carnival
$530 was a free cruise back then. 🎉
On the upside it didn't turn into a submarine...
The ship goes Titanic and they open the bar with unlimited free drinks. What could possibly go wrong! 😂
Gerry Cahill didn't have to come face the customers in person to apilogize, but he did.
It sounds like every crew member handled this the best they could and refunds were given out, so I hope nobody sued them or anything. But of course they did.
The safety protocols were followed so no engineers were boiled or asphyxiated, overall it was the best possible outcome when total disaater could have been one tiny mistake away.
Very good video. The information is detailed and not exagerated,
😀 thanks
Man I miss the days of the old luxury liners, which carried around 500-1K passengers tops, cabins were more spacious & service was excellent. Young people today don’t even know what excellent service is, much less how to take proper responsibility for their kids. I’d rather book a no frills passage on a merchant ship than take a cruise with 3000 drunks & unruly children. No thank you.
There are luxury cruise lines that have smaller ships what which don’t allow kids. Yes it’ll cost more but it is definitely worth it for some people.
Thank you for all your excellent documentaries.
Carnival is the Temu of cruise lines!
Good telling of the story! I was hanging on every word for a while thar; was one thing after another C:
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You did a good job of exposing the technical details. I'm just a little shocked that there wasn't more redundancy on a power and sewage service. One leaky line, one small contained fire and the whole thing is sideways?
I love it free drinks for everybody.... 2 hours later everybody's drunk and smashing the crap out of the boat that's so funny😂 throwing red bags at everybody oh you don't know how bad I wish I would have been there😂
I have sailed on both the Triumph AND the Sunrise. No poop problems to speak of.
when i saw this on the news i was only thinking "why not shit in a bucket and throw it overboard?" or at least sit over the railing and shit, works on fishinboats in a pinch ^^
note to self: no cruise ships, ever
Carnival's got the fun! Party on. Just get another drink! Fun ship.
I hope the crew got some extra money too for having to deal with all the literal crap, they're the real victims here.
This is a good reason to take road trips instead of ocean cruises... I live in Galveston and actually know people who were on this venture... It is a nope for my vacation plans lol
When I go on vacation it’s because I want to get away from people.
Sh*t! (No pun intended) I'm gonna be late for work, this is interesting.
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I never would have predicted a WS feature would make me dry heave, but here we are.
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A really fun cruise. Can´t imagine the smell.
my wife and I went on 7 Large cruise lines around the world. Our last one was in 2002.....THANK GOD!!!
$30 to live breathing human waste for day in a humid environment. Yep, sounds about right.
A few days without a toilet and people shit and piss everywhere. How would these helpless and infantile tourists survive if they got into REAL trouble. In Finland, fortunately, almost all men (and some women as well) do military service (at least 6 months), so everyone knows how to get along without all the possible comforts of civilization. Oh, what kind of breeches.
Damn right. Not having toilets is no excuse for complete anarchy. Too many people are too used to everything being done for them.
The crew went above and beyond
LMFAO I’ve had two cruise ads on this video and it’s not even halfway done
Love these. Well done.👏🇨🇮
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CEO should have thrown a couple years of his salary into the kitty for payouts to the passengers *and* crew. Crew had to suffer the same conditions while continuing to do their jobs.
Carnival lines is the cruise line for.. people you don't wanna be around. Trust me there and spend the extra for Royal Caribbean.
Carnival is the WalMart of the cruise industry
Been on Carnival, NCL, and Royal Caribbean. Never had anything less that a great time on Carnival, never had a good time on NCL, and Royal fell right in the middle. Absolutely best crew are on Carnival. Of course, I don't do the cheapo 3 day booze cruises on Carnival...Mediterranean, Baltic, Alaska, trans-Pacific, and 10 day Caribbean have a different demographic of passenger who's not there just to get drunk.
I was told Carnival is the Motel 6 of cruise lines. Never had an issue with them.
@@musicmanfelipemore like the section 8.
What about the mice? What were they doing? And the bugs? And you forgot to list what every single person was thinking.
Fantastic video as always looking forward to the next👍
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In ships with multiple engines, i thought one was always under scheduled maintenance. A rotation
65 and NEVER had a desire to go on a cruise...It looks boring as hell...When you read reviews of the current cruise lines; there are a lot of disgruntled customers.
5:50 You spent 30 seconds needlessly plodding back through all of the amenities the ship offered. My eyes are still rolling around in the back of my head lol
In 1980 I was on a Carnival cruise that suffered a similar fate that we were without power for 45 hours. The difference was that Carnival never offered any apology or any compensation or credit on a future cruise. I have never sailed their brand since or ever will again. This doesn't surprise me.
they only apologize and pay pittance when it will harm their reputation.
Hellish. Turns out, I didn't mind not knowing about this!
My very first cruise was aboard Carnival Triumph .... Then the following year it made world news with being stranded at sea with no water or power for days .
Very well done. Thank you
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I was thinking about how different the disaster would have been had they been dealing with bad weather on the open ocean.
And……Covid?
IF a flexible fuel line is fit for purpose, it will only last a certain amount of time in operation before it degrades and needs replacement. A reasonable person would expect that this period of time would be on a maintenance schedule and part of routine preventative maintenance. If fuel lines are going to be near hot objects, then from factory, the manufacturer would be obligated to build in the required safe guards by using solid piping and/or shielding. The Australian Navy royally screwed the pooch some years ago, when they had solid,high pressure fuel lines on the HMAS Westralia replaced with flexible hoses not rated for the application........the resulting engine room fire was horrific with fatalities.
Hey Paul, what a stinky story 😂😂
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"I am in a world of s**t, yes. But I am alive, and I am not afraid." - Pvt. Joker, and absolutely no one on this ship.
This is actually scares me more than a collision
I have taken ONE cruise and it was on THIS boat. Fortunately it wasn't this cruise. The ship was shabby even then. The pools were closed after the first night. There was a murder on my deck the second night. A couple of nights the entertainment was cancelled. I was bored to death the entire week. Carnival Cruise Lines is the trailer park of cruise ships. I am never going to go on any ocean cruise again although the ones on the rivers look interesting.
Certainly it is rare to hear a company as large as Carnival seemingly doing the right thing at the end of such an event. That was the one thing that was most notable to me anyway; CEO waiting, apologizing and getting everyone taken care of, bravo. Top marks, a shame this was not highlighted more.
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