Honda seems to receive unfair criticism from the general motorcycle press (particularly here in Aus) for being too efficient and lacking of character; having previously owned a ‘95 Fireblade and a ‘05 Blackbird, I totally disagree with these criticisms. Pleased you enjoyed your experience on the VFR800X👍
i think they are the Toyota of the motorcycle world, nothing fancy just basic functional and extremely reliable machines that suit the purpose you bought them for.
@Praque Forqsk You're right, I miss the oilleaks, the bad cornering, the bad seatingpositions. I hate it, when the V-Tec kicks in, I hate the handling and the precise working of the gearbox. Honda, why not build a bike that has to be repaired every 1000 miles, one that doesn't sweep through corners, like the VFR 800 does, one that doesn't give You that good mileage. 😇
V-Tec is straight-up character, is it not? I rode less exciting Hondas in my day, my favorite a ‘84 Nighthawk 700 S. Smooth, fast, comfortable. Lacking character? That perfectly linear 12 second quarter-mile speed is the character I loved then and miss now.
Sounds amazing. I love the understated looks of Hondas. Had lots of them in the 80s. The build quality was always great. The only weak point then was there Cam Chan tensioners could stick if you didn’t adjust them regularly. Once the vfr750 arrived that problem disappeared. Nice to see a bike that the manufacturer has decided to map the engine properly rather than provide a handful of pointLess bland rider modes.
I'm driving the 2016 model. The adjustable windshield is new, the exhaust is new and the 12V power output. Maybe colours are new the rest is like 2016. I added handguards and a higher windshield also a 12V power output. I bought it pricewise first but now I love it. The V4 is excellent. Petrol consumption is ok, 5.1 ltr/100km. Yamaha? My opinion: nice toys but quality on the long run is Honda. The instructor of austrian motorclub is driving a 1000cc Varadero over 600.000km. He has a new Africa Twin in addition. This bike has now 175.000 km. Long term quality is Honda, nothing else.
My 2016 Honda Africa Twin was the most trouble-plagued bike I've ever owned. The DCT broke, the fuel pump broke, the switch gear broke and the bike suffered from an intermittent stalling issue that Honda could not solve. Finally they called it an engine characteristic and that was that. Replaced it with a 2015 Super Tenere which has been absolutely trouble free and the build quality is notably better. Honda has gone down hill from the 90s, when I owned five of them from new, including the brilliant 5th Gen. VFR800. Watching this vid does make me miss that glorious V4...
After watching your video and one from Mark Pulling I took one of these bikes for a test today. 2018 model with 6k miles. Great bike, the vtec sounds awesome. Bought it!
Picked a 2018 model up in August last year. It really is a great bike. That VTec engine sounds amazing and its really comfortable (Im 6 3" and have seat on highest setting). Sadly Honda wont be making them anymore because of Euro 5. I tested a Versys and VStrom and can honestly say this is the better bike. Great review !
I had a VFR400R some years ago in my younger days. Although it is a small bike, it had quite a bit of kick, and the sound of that little 400 V4 engine was great
Probably the biggest regret in my life is selling my VFR400. With BT090s on I could lean that thing over until had literally 3/4 of a footpeg left. It's still on the road but I wish it was in my garage.
There must be something special about this bike. I've watched a lot of your reviews and you sir have a relaxed style of riding, but it looks like you had some fun with this VFR. I'm in the market for a sport adventure bike and this might be the one for me. Thank you for all the good reviews!
I don't know about this vstrom, but one Austrian called Varahanes already did over 600000 km on his 1l V2 Varadero and get after 500k an new Affrica Twin from honda company.
I agree that, as an owner and rider of VFR’s since 1996, the VFR is a brilliant all-round bike. My current bike, a 2000 VFR800 FiX (pre Vtec) has had quite a few modifications, the most significant being fitting a handlebar conversion kit that allows the fitting of standard tubular bars (Renthall low-street are my preference) which provides a similar riding position to the VFR800 crossrunner. It’s capable of keeping up with many of the current crop of bikes on the twisties and also happily commuting to work or cruising along on touring trips with my camping gear loaded in to Givi Monokey luggage. However, Honda missed an opportunity, and the boat, in 2008 when they decided to develop a new VFR. They could have delivered what VFR owners wanted, which was an a new VFR1000 with advanced technology and more power, but in a similar ‘package’ to the VFR800, with a smooth torque curve, keeping the weight down to no more than the 800’s 238Kg (wet), returning to the gear driven cams fitted to my model and junking the widely disliked cam chains and their associated adjusters fitted to all VFR800 Vtec since 2002, keeping the VFR’s renowned reliability, sporty ride quality and the comfort & practicality of a tourer. They decided instead to create the 1200 which is a bike with an excess of touring and technology features, but too heavy with a shaft drive & optional DCT gearbox, making the total mass at least 267Kg (wet). It’s also thirsty on fuel and has a smaller petrol tank, limiting range to less than 150 miles, thus neither suited to touring or sporty riding. As it lacked the sportiness of the VFR800 it put it more in the same category as the Pan European but without the range or comfort and at a much higher price. However; I’m now in the process of changing my bike for a Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX as it offers significant performance, technological and safety advancements over my 21 year old (but perfectly running) VFR. That is why the Ninja 1000SX has taken the crown as the best, reasonably priced, practical, sports touring bike with proven reliability. In terms of value for money it can’t be beaten, especially if it’s bought in standard trim and the owner fits the accessories they want and need (alternative screen, heated grips, luggage, frame sliders, tank pad, phone / SatNav mount & a nicer / lighter exhaust). Yes, I would have liked a bike with a single sided swing arm but that’s a nice to have not essential. My only significant gripes with the Ninja 1000SX are the lack of a centre stand, which makes servicing and roadside repairs quite difficult and the small and relatively flimsy panniers as compared to my 20 year old equivalent and better priced Givi luggage.
Hey TMF. Just seeing this vid now. I have the 2016 version. So I dont have the adjustable screen. I agree with everything you said in the video. I had a 1999 VFR 800Fi before this and after 3 corners on the XRunner I was in love. I am 6'4 so sitting up and looking around while throwing this machine in and through corners like it is a pure sports tourer is a bliss. I do around 16k km or 10k miles on it in a year and its all recreational. I love it to bits for all the things you said, the engine, the handling. The looks. You didnt even mention the headlight! I have taken it to the track on more than one occasion and loved it there too. As you said, its a bike that is massively overlooked, also by the marketing department of Honda as the Africa Twin, Gold Wing, Fireblade and smaller CB's get all the shine. But thats fine with me. I love my Xrunner. And I dont care if somebody says it's boring because they clearly haven't ridden it.
Thanks for this. Looking for one for Leanna but at 5 feet 2 we'll need to lower it. I've always loved V engines anyway. Might be worth having a test ride.
Not sure if you already dealt with it Russ, but I can't recommend these bikes enough. Absolutely bullet proof, cheap to run (apart from the valve service I suppose) and really sweet handling for such a chonky boi. Also averages 10k out of the Road 5s even with spirited riding, which is really good in my book.
looks great. i ride one as an instructor for honda. little tip no need to pull the clutch all the way in only just pull cm then change it will feel like a quick change.
Wow, it has everything I would want, ABS, TC, Heated grips; self-cancelling turn signals, adjustable screen, gear indicator; fuel gauge. Just the center stand missing. Wow! Thanks Mr. Flyer.
In full agreement with you Mr Flyer. Tested this against the Tiger 800 and the Tracer 900 and the Honda was the clear winner. Had mine since last July and loving it more than ever. Planning to do the NC500 on it when the weather improves a bit. Great channel by the way, thank you for putting the effort in for us all.
i got vfr800 pre vtec 98n only had it year and arf love it to bits just got some cosmetic stuff ta do on her she has done 76000 miles and still feels like new
Always liked the face lifted version of this bike, the only thing I've been told in a negative way is V4s cost more in the maintenance department. I also think if it's being touted as a tourer it should have cruise control. Great review as always .
Not surprised you liked it the engine is a peach , its dad the VFR 750/800 was widely regarded as the best all-round motorcycle in the world for the best part of a decade. I have a good friend with huge experience working in the industry who swears by his 16 year old VFR and would never part with it .. speaks volumes .
Really enjoyed your review of this bike, helped me make a decision. I’ve just purchased a 3 year old one, 16 plate, with the akropovic exhaust, top box & centre stand, love the sound, easy to handle, good protection, great handling too for the size. Thanks for sharing.
Looks good, the lack cruise control is strange, since tourer is in the name. The VFR1200X also has no cruise control. Looks like a nice bike, a bit on the heavy side for the BHP, and I hope they fixed all the ignition and cylinder noise from previous years. Great review, as usual.
I’d be fascinated to know why Honda choose not to offer their customers cruise control. This is reason enough for me not to buy one, despite loving the DCT setup they offer.
DervMan I asked that question before and I was told it was cost. The local power sports shop told me they tell customers to get throttle locks. Conspiracy theories say it’s Honda’s attempt to have everyone buy the flagship, the GW.
Just ordered this bike, I'll use it as a second motorcycle to get to work on & have the odd pleasure ride, looks excellent in the review, many thanks Missenden flyer.
Nice impartial review. I took mine down to the Dolomites, loaded up with luggage. Then had a great time going up and over the passes and abusing the vtec. I have no idea what I'll replace my 2015 model with - it's everything that I want from a bike.
I must book a ride.Got back in to bikes 2 years ago,60 years old, With a 1990 VFR ! love it.But would like modern fueling & ABS.Love your channel (no swearing,easy going) Thanks TMF.
My first bike was a 2016 VFRX which I put 27000 miles on before swapping for a GSA 1200. I found that the front suspension was extremely soft on hard braking but other than that it was a great bike to get started on. Lack of cruise control was another reason to swap as well. Cost of ownership was quite expensive as well.
Thanks for this - didn't know it existed. Back in the day, I was torn between the Blackbird, VFR and the Sprint ST - went with the Sprint, not disappointed. Still fondly recall the V45 and V65 Sabres.
Just before Christmas I bought one of these Andy and I love it! It's obviously screwed together well being a Honda - but more than that exudes quality everywhere. There's nothing on it which looks out of place (apart from the TC button as you mentioned) which wasn't something which could be said of my previous Tracer 700 which had bracketry thrown on as though Yamaha had forgotten certain items till it was too late to engineer them properly. Can I just point out that both F & R suspension is adjustable for both preload and rebound. And again it's of high quality and manages to be both plush and controlled which is particularly rare for a standard production motorcycle. A real magic carpet ride! Thanks for your review, which along with those from Mark Pulling and Cager on Two Wheels definitely helped with my buying decision. Ta
Great review thanks. I agree with you that the Crossrunner is an excellent bike. I have the first version and I love it. Very underrated. Someone with a Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak rode it expecting it to be just another boring 4 cylinder, but they were blown away by the engine. They said the suspension wasn’t up to the level of the Pikes Peak, but the Honda is a very much cheaper machine and in my view is brilliant value.
Bought one last june. What a great bike this is! Top quality engine, suspension and brakes. And very confortable. I commute everyday to work in heavy traffic and travel on weekends. 9.000 Kms in 6 moths. My previous bike was a NC 750. Loved it, but I needed more than just a (great) commuter bike.
Really enjoyed this vlog, once again. I have owned a VFR, nearly ruined my wrists but one with handlebars, sounds like fun and comfort. I now have a CB500X which suits me and the Irish rural road system. To bring it up to a comfortable touring level, I have fitted Hand Guards, Heated Grips, Full stand, SW Motech rack,Hugger and fender extender these were bought new but I also had Give Tank bag (needed new ring) SW Motech Air Hawk seat and Blade Panniers, these fitted well even though they were from a 1250 Fa. I will return to Wales on it for the Stafford shows but no longer tours…… well don’t hold me to that. Take Care.
Had one of these for the last two years , 25,000 miles and been Faultless!! Two European tours and third this summer and can honestly say it's a Swiss army knife of a bike as it tours perfectly and can scuff it's pegs flat when your in the mood. Brilliant review as always TMF keep up the good work and really appreciate all the obvious hard work you put in to keep us all entertained and informed.👍
You forgot to mention one of the VFR's trademarks, the single sided swing arm. This dates back to the VFR750's of the 1980's and predates those on Ducati and Triumphs.
Developed by ELF in France for the Honda endurance racers of the 1980's and beyond, actually heavier than a double sided swing arm, but did facilitate quick rear wheel changes. Not really functional for the road bike with the exhaust on the wrong side.
@@Saxymancan If it's not really practical for the road then why have Ducati and Triumph copied it for their premium models and what is the 'correct' side for the exhaust? There is no incorrect side for an exhaust. This is especially irrelevant if the exhaust exits at a high level underneath the pillion footrest, as it does on the Remus Grand Prix fitted to my VFR800 FiX, or under the seat (again found on earlier VFR800's and then used on Ducati, MV etc..). It may be that a single sided swingarm is heavier than a lightweight racing braced aluminium swingarm, such as fitted to race-replicas or track bikes, but probably no more than most box steel swingarms. The biggest issue with a single-sided swing arm is the development and manufacturing costs, which are higher than a simple twin sided unit; however, this is more than outweighed by the advantages. Apart from making rear wheel removal cleaner, faster and much simpler , without the need to take off the sprocket, chain or brake calliper, it is also almost impossible to misalign the rear wheel thus eliminating the need to ensure that the chain tension adjustment is carried out equally on both tensioners. Apart from aesthetics, which has a significant impact on motorcycle design, it's those advantages where a SSS is superior to a classic twin sided one.
Very nice bike, that has most of the things I'm looking for. Should come with a centre stand and a bar over instrument pod for GPS. Only fly in the ointment for me is chain drive, prefer shaft drive.
Hey Missenden! went to Honda this weekend, got an offer for a brand new bike and will order it in June. I was torn between the F750GS, Tiger 800XRt and Tracer 900GT but the Honda wins my heart. I've just test ridden the F750GS but really cannot like a twin as much as a 4 cylinders...
Great review had a test ride at the weekend loved it, so easy to ride took it up some nasty hilly roads in Wales after just 30 minutes of my test ride, no drama's very easy to handle. It reminds me of my Honda CBF1000 its not super sexy but just does the job. Result of test ride I've ordered one thanks again great reviews.
Hi there, looking at this bike and loving it. Have a 2015 CB500X for 2 years now and looking at upgrading to a 2019 crossrunner for commuting and touring. Is this 2 big a jump? Want a bike that'll do for a while.
I do like your videos as they are straightforward and address the issues that most of us in the real world have. I too looked at the Crossrunner and liked it a lot. I didn't want the chain drive having had a shaft drive on one of my bikes, so I opted for the Crosstourer with the 1200cc engine and the shaft drive. While it is a heavy bike, like the 800 it hides it well. I suggest if you liked the 800 try the 1200 lots of torque and even smoother. There's even a DTC version which is like majic. Keep up the good work and to answer your question you should get paid for the work you put in. How to be paid is the difficult question. Many Thanks Tim Lloyd
Cheers Tim - yes the 1200 does look like a lovely beast, I'm a bit scared by it's size/weight but I'd love a go on one at some point (must make that happen). All the best - TMF
I have a soft spot for the VFR800F - owned one of the last pre-VTEC versions. Beautifully built, good looking, great to ride on the road - quickly or touring. Not going to compete at a track day and won't take many hard laps to burn out the brakes, or overheat the dampers; but it isn't designed to be a track weapon and still makes, objectively, as the perfect road bike. Which is why I went and bought an s1000rr (heart wins over head!). However, I like the look of the current model and would love to see you ride one and pass on your thoughts. If I had one, I think the S1000RR would spend a lot of time sat on paddock stands and polished, whilst the VFR was getting 1000s of miles put on it every year.
I love my fully farkled 90° V-4 VFR . . . it delivers character, reliability and fun. But, at 66 years old, this more ergonomically generous model may be calling my name. Thanks for the review.
Morning Yes I had a VFR800 before my BMW 1200GS loved the bike did over 250 000 trouble free km and the sound was joy to your and everyone around you's eares :)
after over 165,000km in 5 years without an issue I sold the BMW R1200GS (2007 model) , and bought a used K1300GT same power as the K1600GT without the weight love the K1300GT I'll be coming over to blighty in May on it..I also have a Triumph Thruxton rode it last year to Sardinia and Back (Wish I had gone on the GT.. :D but it's the journey as much as the destination when I ride.
I bought one new back in November 2020 and use it for commuting 50 miles into central london. There are deals to be had on these, and I’ve managed to get accessories like quickshifter etc for pretty cheap from dealers as this is bike is discontinued. Positives: well built, lovely engine growl, great torque, suited to both motorway and urban riding. Also Service pricing isn’t eye watering and it’s basic standard parts compared to higher end expensive bikes means you don’t mind it being a work horse. Negatives: the seat is the most uncomfortable factory seat I’ve been on. 30 mins in and it’s pretty uncomfortable. You can sort this though through aftermarket, so budget for it. The second is the screen and wind buffer, again pretty terrible. Different after market options where the it narrows down to a few real contenders. Only other thing are the running lights at night: I keep being flashed as if I’ve got high beams on.
I bought one in November too. I personally find the standard seat comfortable. I agree the buffeting is/was terrible. I fitted an MRA Vario touring screen (to the stock screen) which got rid of about seventy percent of it but I still got a lot of wind noise. I then put 5mm spacers behind the top screws of the screen and 15mm spacers behind the lower screws which has again made a big difference. I'd say I've got rid of ninety-five percent of it now and can finally hear the engine properly. Good luck with the bike.
Wish we could get them here in Canada. I absolutely love my 14 VFR 800 but would like to sit up a little straighter in my elder years. Lol. Great review as usual. Thanks .
Just purchased one of these. Had the VRF800 a year ago. Ended up switching then coming back to the VRF with the 800X (2007 model). Now upgrading to the newer model. Wonderful machines!
Don't see why they can't put a decent sized front mudguard on instead of that tiny thing, also they should offer a handguards option. rear definitely needs a hugger. great review as always.
I own a 1250 bandit I was looking at a triumph tiger 800 now I'm thinking about this cross runner? I sat on one at CMC Cannock it felt really comfortable.
Great review... 'tactile buttons'.... but for touring there really is no replacement for displacement. My brother made that mistake years ago. He was probably a mile from the dealers on a vfr800 when he realised he should have bought the 1100 super blackbird.
Fantastic bike own a vfr800 f now but have had an early one of these couldn't fault far better finished than any Yamaha kawasaki or Suzuki and reliability second to none
Glad you like, I would argue that Yamaha also do great quality machines (don't know so much about suzuki as have never owned one)....by the Honda is an under rated and nice bit of kit for sure...
I have a one in white. Just ordered my panniers from honda, £800 including the lock kits, not cheap. But a great smooth comfortable bike. Not to mention the powerful twin LED headlights. Odd lamp beam but work well. One last point. Honda dont make the handguards anymore, you have to buy Givi ones and they dont really stop your fingers getting cold........ Panniers now have been fitted and they look great. Also, just had the led fogs fitted, super bright.
Don't mean to sound facetious but there are no "additional" valves all the v-tec system does is lift the cams at a certain rpm in order to change the profile.
Morning Mr Flyer, if you like that try the VFR1200 powered Crosstourer. That was my second choice when I bought my GS. See if you can get a long term ride on that I think you will love it.
Great Bike, superb engine. Perhaps my gripe being 6' 3" is that your legs are in quite a tight tuck and so perhaps not fantastic for really long rides. Took mine to Norway and suffered a little but it didn't stop me enjoying the trip.
I know im randomly asking but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account? I somehow lost the password. I love any assistance you can give me!
@Canaan Braxton Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out atm. Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
wow i was looking at this bike to possibly purchase, i checked your honda playlists 2 days ago and it wasn't there, its like you read my mind, thanks TMF - Dean
Thanks TMF. You're my favourite reviewer, another great review. This is the genre of bikes that I'm looking at and I was glad you compared it to the V-Strom and Tracer. I've ridden all of those except the Honda. I'm not considering the Versys but I am considering the Z1000SX/Ninja 1000 to these bikes. If you get the chance I would love to see a review of that bike. Bang for buck it's very impressive on paper. I rode the 2016 Z1000SX and like it a lot but I love the sound of V twin and V4's. If only the Multistrada 950 was cheaper in Australia! Thanks again, you're a ripper mate!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It was your review that done it for me I was sold after watching this so I waited for a good price and traded in my NC 750x for a good price. No regrets, the Crossrunner 800 is a great bike.
Maybe it is coming to the US. I don’t know. But it is no longer on the market in the EU because of new restrictions regarding pollution. I’m a happy owner of the Crossrunner - love the bike. And the build quality 👍. 🇩🇰
Nice review, thanks for making it. Made me want to try one out. Why pick the GS over this? or even why pick the "big" tourers (gs, 1290 ktm, tiger etc) when bike like these have "enough" power?
So, the big question: Would you consider a VFR800 Crossrunner as a replacement for your GS when the time comes. I have to say, for me, the Crossrunner ticks all the boxes.
Think you got that one wrong TMF I do remember you riding Richy Vida’s Honda VFR800 Vtec. And he has never let anyone else ride it. Great review tho TMF you are one of the best reviews on TH-cam. Keep em coming buddy we love you😃😃
It reminds me of my old Yamaha TDM900. More power but less torque. That was a gorgeous bike to ride and averaged nearly 65mpg. What does the crossrunner do to the gallon?
I had the vstrom 650 and then brought one of these , I'm really impressed with it very smooth , and Honda quality . Have.an akrapovic can on so sounds great. I agree with the horn and indicator switch
V4 Hondas have sang their siren song to me since 1982....one day. Thinking VTEC and the system on my 2005 Mustang GT are similar. Variable valve timing along with butterflies in the intake runners that open electrically at 3500 rpm. Quite the kick from that point forward....thanks for this.
You should try an old 5th gen Vfr sometime if you can, gear driven cams and no silly vtec, get one with a nice end can, the sound is fantastic when you wind her up, the vtec ruined them though the 6th gen had great styling and better headlights, great review as always,brilliant channel !!
That is a beautiful and great sounding bike. Harley is so dominant where I live, one can forget that there are sophisticated bikes like this around. I wonder how the Honda V-4 bikes compare to the Ducati V-4?
Another great review. I never understand why manufacturers cover up the wheel of a single sided swing arm.something cool like that needs to be shown off
Yes agreed, having said that, of course they have to put the exhaust somewhere (but I guess if you're going to the effort of having a single sided swing arm you'd engineer the exhaust underneath or something....)
Good Evening TMF, Thank you for another super review . I am sure if you ever tried a Honda S T 1300 Paneuropean you would be so impressed by how smooth the engine and ride is . Please if you get chance, ride one because you don"t know what you are missing. Take Care .
This review was very helpful when I was looking for a new bike recently. I bought a Crossrunner VFR800 X and love it. Thank you!
Great to hear!
I've bought one!!! Collection imminent
I’m thinking of buying one to replace cb500f and compliment Striple S.
Would you recommend it?
Honda seems to receive unfair criticism from the general motorcycle press (particularly here in Aus) for being too efficient and lacking of character; having previously owned a ‘95 Fireblade and a ‘05 Blackbird, I totally disagree with these criticisms. Pleased you enjoyed your experience on the VFR800X👍
i think they are the Toyota of the motorcycle world, nothing fancy just basic functional and extremely reliable machines that suit the purpose you bought them for.
They are rock solid , run an 11sec 1/4 mile and are very comfortable....oh the horror
@Praque Forqsk You're right, I miss the oilleaks, the bad cornering, the bad seatingpositions. I hate it, when the V-Tec kicks in, I hate the handling and the precise working of the gearbox. Honda, why not build a bike that has to be repaired every 1000 miles, one that doesn't sweep through corners, like the VFR 800 does, one that doesn't give You that good mileage. 😇
It's an incredible machine handles really well and goes like a rocket very underestimated
V-Tec is straight-up character, is it not?
I rode less exciting Hondas in my day, my favorite a ‘84 Nighthawk 700 S. Smooth, fast, comfortable. Lacking character? That perfectly linear 12 second quarter-mile speed is the character I loved then and miss now.
Sounds amazing. I love the understated looks of Hondas. Had lots of them in the 80s. The build quality was always great. The only weak point then was there Cam Chan tensioners could stick if you didn’t adjust them regularly. Once the vfr750 arrived that problem disappeared. Nice to see a bike that the manufacturer has decided to map the engine properly rather than provide a handful of pointLess bland rider modes.
I'm driving the 2016 model. The adjustable windshield is new, the exhaust is new and the 12V power output. Maybe colours are new the rest is like 2016. I added handguards and a higher windshield also a 12V power output. I bought it pricewise first but now I love it. The V4 is excellent. Petrol consumption is ok, 5.1 ltr/100km. Yamaha? My opinion: nice toys but quality on the long run is Honda. The instructor of austrian motorclub is driving a 1000cc Varadero over 600.000km. He has a new Africa Twin in addition. This bike has now 175.000 km. Long term quality is Honda, nothing else.
Yep - Honda sure do know how to make a reliable machine that's for sure....
My 2016 Honda Africa Twin was the most trouble-plagued bike I've ever owned. The DCT broke, the fuel pump broke, the switch gear broke and the bike suffered from an intermittent stalling issue that Honda could not solve. Finally they called it an engine characteristic and that was that. Replaced it with a 2015 Super Tenere which has been absolutely trouble free and the build quality is notably better. Honda has gone down hill from the 90s, when I owned five of them from new, including the brilliant 5th Gen. VFR800. Watching this vid does make me miss that glorious V4...
Have had my 2015 VFR800X for around 8 months and I've been loving every ride! Great motorcycle!
Great to hear!
After watching your video and one from Mark Pulling I took one of these bikes for a test today. 2018 model with 6k miles. Great bike, the vtec sounds awesome. Bought it!
Hey congratulations!
Just goes to show how good the 781cc V4 is against the 1000cc competition. Great review and thank you.
Picked a 2018 model up in August last year. It really is a great bike. That VTec engine sounds amazing and its really comfortable (Im 6 3" and have seat on highest setting). Sadly Honda wont be making them anymore because of Euro 5. I tested a Versys and VStrom and can honestly say this is the better bike. Great review !
I had a VFR400R some years ago in my younger days. Although it is a small bike, it had quite a bit of kick, and the sound of that little 400 V4 engine was great
Probably the biggest regret in my life is selling my VFR400. With BT090s on I could lean that thing over until had literally 3/4 of a footpeg left. It's still on the road but I wish it was in my garage.
There must be something special about this bike. I've watched a lot of your reviews and you sir have a relaxed style of riding, but it looks like you had some fun with this VFR. I'm in the market for a sport adventure bike and this might be the one for me. Thank you for all the good reviews!
Glad you like them!
Good looking bike for sure, better than the V strom, it's not uncommon for these Honda engines V4 to reach 100,000 miles, extremely reliable.
Good point, Honda reliability is legendary......
Yeah i'd actually get bored with my honda before the engine died. :)
Not uncommon for vstrom either
I don't know about this vstrom, but one Austrian called Varahanes already did over 600000 km on his 1l V2 Varadero and get after 500k an new Affrica Twin from honda company.
But in all seriousness, I am so glad you reviewed this bike.
The X seems to have slipped under the radar and was a cracking machine.
I've got the VFR800F and think it's brilliant.
Good stuff!
I agree that, as an owner and rider of VFR’s since 1996, the VFR is a brilliant all-round bike.
My current bike, a 2000 VFR800 FiX (pre Vtec) has had quite a few modifications, the most significant being fitting a handlebar conversion kit that allows the fitting of standard tubular bars (Renthall low-street are my preference) which provides a similar riding position to the VFR800 crossrunner.
It’s capable of keeping up with many of the current crop of bikes on the twisties and also happily commuting to work or cruising along on touring trips with my camping gear loaded in to Givi Monokey luggage.
However, Honda missed an opportunity, and the boat, in 2008 when they decided to develop a new VFR.
They could have delivered what VFR owners wanted, which was an a new VFR1000 with advanced technology and more power, but in a similar ‘package’ to the VFR800, with a smooth torque curve, keeping the weight down to no more than the 800’s 238Kg (wet), returning to the gear driven cams fitted to my model and junking the widely disliked cam chains and their associated adjusters fitted to all VFR800 Vtec since 2002, keeping the VFR’s renowned reliability, sporty ride quality and the comfort & practicality of a tourer.
They decided instead to create the 1200 which is a bike with an excess of touring and technology features, but too heavy with a shaft drive & optional DCT gearbox, making the total mass at least 267Kg (wet).
It’s also thirsty on fuel and has a smaller petrol tank, limiting range to less than 150 miles, thus neither suited to touring or sporty riding.
As it lacked the sportiness of the VFR800 it put it more in the same category as the Pan European but without the range or comfort and at a much higher price.
However; I’m now in the process of changing my bike for a Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX as it offers significant performance, technological and safety advancements over my 21 year old (but perfectly running) VFR.
That is why the Ninja 1000SX has taken the crown as the best, reasonably priced, practical, sports touring bike with proven reliability.
In terms of value for money it can’t be beaten, especially if it’s bought in standard trim and the owner fits the accessories they want and need (alternative screen, heated grips, luggage, frame sliders, tank pad, phone / SatNav mount & a nicer / lighter exhaust).
Yes, I would have liked a bike with a single sided swing arm but that’s a nice to have not essential.
My only significant gripes with the Ninja 1000SX are the lack of a centre stand, which makes servicing and roadside repairs quite difficult and the small and relatively flimsy panniers as compared to my 20 year old equivalent and better priced Givi luggage.
Hey TMF. Just seeing this vid now. I have the 2016 version. So I dont have the adjustable screen. I agree with everything you said in the video. I had a 1999 VFR 800Fi before this and after 3 corners on the XRunner I was in love. I am 6'4 so sitting up and looking around while throwing this machine in and through corners like it is a pure sports tourer is a bliss.
I do around 16k km or 10k miles on it in a year and its all recreational. I love it to bits for all the things you said, the engine, the handling. The looks. You didnt even mention the headlight! I have taken it to the track on more than one occasion and loved it there too. As you said, its a bike that is massively overlooked, also by the marketing department of Honda as the Africa Twin, Gold Wing, Fireblade and smaller CB's get all the shine. But thats fine with me. I love my Xrunner. And I dont care if somebody says it's boring because they clearly haven't ridden it.
Thanks for the feedback and for stopping buy!
I bought one brand new almost 2 years ago, thanks to this video and other ones. I love it so much. 20.000km+ now, it's just plain awesome.
Great to hear!
Thanks for this. Looking for one for Leanna but at 5 feet 2 we'll need to lower it. I've always loved V engines anyway. Might be worth having a test ride.
Not sure if you already dealt with it Russ, but I can't recommend these bikes enough. Absolutely bullet proof, cheap to run (apart from the valve service I suppose) and really sweet handling for such a chonky boi. Also averages 10k out of the Road 5s even with spirited riding, which is really good in my book.
looks great. i ride one as an instructor for honda. little tip no need to pull the clutch all the way in only just pull cm then change it will feel like a quick change.
Yes indeed, a habit of mine....
Wow, it has everything I would want, ABS, TC, Heated grips; self-cancelling turn signals, adjustable screen, gear indicator; fuel gauge. Just the center stand missing. Wow! Thanks Mr. Flyer.
You're welcome....
In full agreement with you Mr Flyer. Tested this against the Tiger 800 and the Tracer 900 and the Honda was the clear winner. Had mine since last July and loving it more than ever. Planning to do the NC500 on it when the weather improves a bit. Great channel by the way, thank you for putting the effort in for us all.
You're very welcome - I enjoy it! ...and enjoy the NC500.....
i got vfr800 pre vtec 98n only had it year and arf love it to bits just got some cosmetic stuff ta do on her she has done 76000 miles and still feels like new
Wow - sounds like you found a good 'un...
Great review as always.This bike would be a real contender if it was 50 lbs. lighter and had cruise control.
It does like a few features compared to the new Tracer 900 GT
@@battsonbikes1919 Other than cruise what would those be?
Always liked the face lifted version of this bike, the only thing I've been told in a negative way is V4s cost more in the maintenance department. I also think if it's being touted as a tourer it should have cruise control. Great review as always .
Thank you Ken - appreciated....
Not surprised you liked it the engine is a peach , its dad the VFR 750/800 was widely regarded as the best
all-round motorcycle in the world for the best part of a decade.
I have a good friend with huge experience working in the industry who swears by his 16 year old VFR and
would never part with it .. speaks volumes .
Contemplating upgrading my gen 1 to a lower mileage gen 2 and came back for this vid a second time. 👌🏻
Really enjoyed your review of this bike, helped me make a decision. I’ve just purchased a 3 year old one, 16 plate, with the akropovic exhaust, top box & centre stand, love the sound, easy to handle, good protection, great handling too for the size. Thanks for sharing.
Me too with Sat Nav included
Looks good, the lack cruise control is strange, since tourer is in the name. The VFR1200X also has no cruise control. Looks like a nice bike, a bit on the heavy side for the BHP, and I hope they fixed all the ignition and cylinder noise from previous years. Great review, as usual.
Thank you sir! ...and yes, lack of cruise control, is a bit odd....
I’d be fascinated to know why Honda choose not to offer their customers cruise control. This is reason enough for me not to buy one, despite loving the DCT setup they offer.
DervMan I asked that question before and I was told it was cost. The local power sports shop told me they tell customers to get throttle locks. Conspiracy theories say it’s Honda’s attempt to have everyone buy the flagship, the GW.
Never understood the need for cruise control. Do lots of weeks+ riding & never once wished for cruise.
Just ordered this bike, I'll use it as a second motorcycle to get to work on & have the odd pleasure ride, looks excellent in the review, many thanks Missenden flyer.
My pleasure and congratulations!
Nice impartial review.
I took mine down to the Dolomites, loaded up with luggage. Then had a great time going up and over the passes and abusing the vtec. I have no idea what I'll replace my 2015 model with - it's everything that I want from a bike.
I must book a ride.Got back in to bikes 2 years ago,60 years old, With a 1990 VFR ! love it.But would like modern fueling & ABS.Love your channel (no swearing,easy going) Thanks TMF.
Thank you Earle, appreciated!
My first bike was a 2016 VFRX which I put 27000 miles on before swapping for a GSA 1200. I found that the front suspension was extremely soft on hard braking but other than that it was a great bike to get started on. Lack of cruise control was another reason to swap as well. Cost of ownership was quite expensive as well.
What do you put that down too - servicing costs???
Thanks for this - didn't know it existed. Back in the day, I was torn between the Blackbird, VFR and the Sprint ST - went with the Sprint, not disappointed. Still fondly recall the V45 and V65 Sabres.
Just before Christmas I bought one of these Andy and I love it!
It's obviously screwed together well being a Honda - but more than that exudes quality everywhere.
There's nothing on it which looks out of place (apart from the TC button as you mentioned) which wasn't something which could be said of my previous Tracer 700 which had bracketry thrown on as though Yamaha had forgotten certain items till it was too late to engineer them properly.
Can I just point out that both F & R suspension is adjustable for both preload and rebound. And again it's of high quality and manages to be both plush and controlled which is particularly rare for a standard production motorcycle. A real magic carpet ride!
Thanks for your review, which along with those from Mark Pulling and Cager on Two Wheels definitely helped with my buying decision. Ta
Glad it was of use! Enjoy the bike....
Great review thanks. I agree with you that the Crossrunner is an excellent bike. I have the first version and I love it. Very underrated. Someone with a Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak rode it expecting it to be just another boring 4 cylinder, but they were blown away by the engine. They said the suspension wasn’t up to the level of the Pikes Peak, but the Honda is a very much cheaper machine and in my view is brilliant value.
Had a 1998 vfr 800 pre v-tech and the engine not was addictive. Lovely motor
Bought one last june. What a great bike this is! Top quality engine, suspension and brakes. And very confortable. I commute everyday to work in heavy traffic and travel on weekends. 9.000 Kms in 6 moths. My previous bike was a NC 750. Loved it, but I needed more than just a (great) commuter bike.
Excellent - glad you're getting on well with it - thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Really enjoyed this vlog, once again. I have owned a VFR, nearly ruined my wrists but one with handlebars, sounds like fun and comfort. I now have a CB500X which suits me and the Irish rural road system. To bring it up to a comfortable touring level, I have fitted Hand Guards, Heated Grips, Full stand, SW Motech rack,Hugger and fender extender these were bought new but I also had Give Tank bag (needed new ring) SW Motech Air Hawk seat and Blade Panniers, these fitted well even though they were from a 1250 Fa. I will return to Wales on it for the Stafford shows but no longer tours…… well don’t hold me to that. Take Care.
Nice one Phil!
If you follow the vfr800 bikes one thing they have in common is the engine will quite literally last forever :)
I've got the old vfr 750f. . Wicked engine. .. Still going strong 25 years on and it gets ridden practically daily. .
Nice one Peter!
Back in 2002 bought the VFR version, superb engine, great torque too and super smooth.
Nice one Ian...
VTEC just kicked in yo!
Yeah it sounds great when it opens up.....
It's also a joke about Honda civic ricers who say this
Had one of these for the last two years , 25,000 miles and been Faultless!! Two European tours and third this summer and can honestly say it's a Swiss army knife of a bike as it tours perfectly and can scuff it's pegs flat when your in the mood. Brilliant review as always TMF keep up the good work and really appreciate all the obvious hard work you put in to keep us all entertained and informed.👍
Thanks for the kind comments Kevin - much appreciated! All the best - TMF
You forgot to mention one of the VFR's trademarks, the single sided swing arm.
This dates back to the VFR750's of the 1980's and predates those on Ducati and Triumphs.
Developed by ELF in France for the Honda endurance racers of the 1980's and beyond, actually heavier than a double sided swing arm, but did facilitate quick rear wheel changes. Not really functional for the road bike with the exhaust on the wrong side.
@@Saxymancan If it's not really practical for the road then why have Ducati and Triumph copied it for their premium models and what is the 'correct' side for the exhaust?
There is no incorrect side for an exhaust.
This is especially irrelevant if the exhaust exits at a high level underneath the pillion footrest, as it does on the Remus Grand Prix fitted to my VFR800 FiX, or under the seat (again found on earlier VFR800's and then used on Ducati, MV etc..).
It may be that a single sided swingarm is heavier than a lightweight racing braced aluminium swingarm, such as fitted to race-replicas or track bikes, but probably no more than most box steel swingarms.
The biggest issue with a single-sided swing arm is the development and manufacturing costs, which are higher than a simple twin sided unit; however, this is more than outweighed by the advantages.
Apart from making rear wheel removal cleaner, faster and much simpler , without the need to take off the sprocket, chain or brake calliper, it is also almost impossible to misalign the rear wheel thus eliminating the need to ensure that the chain tension adjustment is carried out equally on both tensioners.
Apart from aesthetics, which has a significant impact on motorcycle design, it's those advantages where a SSS is superior to a classic twin sided one.
Very nice bike, that has most of the things I'm looking for. Should come with a centre stand and a bar over instrument pod for GPS. Only fly in the ointment for me is chain drive, prefer shaft drive.
Agreed.Enter the Moto Guzzi V85 TT.👍
I have a 2011 model.
Superb bike to ride and the engine and noise are a work of art
Hey Missenden! went to Honda this weekend, got an offer for a brand new bike and will order it in June. I was torn between the F750GS, Tiger 800XRt and Tracer 900GT but the Honda wins my heart. I've just test ridden the F750GS but really cannot like a twin as much as a 4 cylinders...
Fair enough!
Great review had a test ride at the weekend loved it, so easy to ride took it up some nasty hilly roads in Wales after just 30 minutes of my test ride, no drama's very easy to handle. It reminds me of my Honda CBF1000 its not super sexy but just does the job. Result of test ride I've ordered one thanks again great reviews.
Congratulations Derek!
Very nice review. Best i have seen about that bike on youtube. And that includes reviews from professional motorcycle journals. Subscribed.
Thank you Thorsten and welcome along!
Good review, my brother has just bought one and I'll get to ride it soon.
Hi there, looking at this bike and loving it. Have a 2015 CB500X for 2 years now and looking at upgrading to a 2019 crossrunner for commuting and touring. Is this 2 big a jump? Want a bike that'll do for a while.
No that's a sensible choice.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer that's great, thanks for your help. Love your videos. Cheers
I do like your videos as they are straightforward and address the issues that most of us in the real world have. I too looked at the Crossrunner and liked it a lot. I didn't want the chain drive having had a shaft drive on one of my bikes, so I opted for the Crosstourer with the 1200cc engine and the shaft drive. While it is a heavy bike, like the 800 it hides it well. I suggest if you liked the 800 try the 1200 lots of torque and even smoother. There's even a DTC version which is like majic.
Keep up the good work and to answer your question you should get paid for the work you put in. How to be paid is the difficult question.
Many Thanks
Tim Lloyd
Cheers Tim - yes the 1200 does look like a lovely beast, I'm a bit scared by it's size/weight but I'd love a go on one at some point (must make that happen). All the best - TMF
Had a VF1100 for a few years, and that was a great bike - shaft drive, and enough torque to ride up the side of a building!
Cheers Phil.
I have a soft spot for the VFR800F - owned one of the last pre-VTEC versions. Beautifully built, good looking, great to ride on the road - quickly or touring. Not going to compete at a track day and won't take many hard laps to burn out the brakes, or overheat the dampers; but it isn't designed to be a track weapon and still makes, objectively, as the perfect road bike. Which is why I went and bought an s1000rr (heart wins over head!). However, I like the look of the current model and would love to see you ride one and pass on your thoughts. If I had one, I think the S1000RR would spend a lot of time sat on paddock stands and polished, whilst the VFR was getting 1000s of miles put on it every year.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by once again Jme Be! All the best - TMF
I love my fully farkled 90° V-4 VFR . . . it delivers character, reliability and fun. But, at 66 years old, this more ergonomically generous model may be calling my name. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Now that it’s 2021, how about teasing out the “improvements” with another review?
Morning Yes I had a VFR800 before my BMW 1200GS loved the bike did over 250 000 trouble free km and the sound was joy to your and everyone around you's eares :)
...and how does your GS compare Paul?
after over 165,000km in 5 years without an issue I sold the BMW R1200GS (2007 model) , and bought a used K1300GT same power as the K1600GT without the weight love the K1300GT I'll be coming over to blighty in May on it..I also have a Triumph Thruxton rode it last year to Sardinia and Back (Wish I had gone on the GT.. :D but it's the journey as much as the destination when I ride.
I bought one new back in November 2020 and use it for commuting 50 miles into central london. There are deals to be had on these, and I’ve managed to get accessories like quickshifter etc for pretty cheap from dealers as this is bike is discontinued.
Positives: well built, lovely engine growl, great torque, suited to both motorway and urban riding. Also Service pricing isn’t eye watering and it’s basic standard parts compared to higher end expensive bikes means you don’t mind it being a work horse.
Negatives: the seat is the most uncomfortable factory seat I’ve been on. 30 mins in and it’s pretty uncomfortable. You can sort this though through aftermarket, so budget for it. The second is the screen and wind buffer, again pretty terrible. Different after market options where the it narrows down to a few real contenders. Only other thing are the running lights at night: I keep being flashed as if I’ve got high beams on.
Thanks for the real world feedback Rupert!
I bought one in November too. I personally find the standard seat comfortable. I agree the buffeting is/was terrible. I fitted an MRA Vario touring screen (to the stock screen) which got rid of about seventy percent of it but I still got a lot of wind noise. I then put 5mm spacers behind the top screws of the screen and 15mm spacers behind the lower screws which has again made a big difference. I'd say I've got rid of ninety-five percent of it now and can finally hear the engine properly. Good luck with the bike.
I had the same experience regarding the lights, but it is rather easy to adjust them 🇩🇰
This is the bike I owned before the duke. It really is a very good and highly underrated bike. Yes you can get hand guards, I had givi ones on mine.
Nice one....
I loved my VFR750........and this with that fabulous engine sounds perfect. Look forward to these being available in my location.
Where are you Geoff?
Wish we could get them here in Canada. I absolutely love my 14 VFR 800 but would like to sit up a little straighter in my elder years. Lol.
Great review as usual. Thanks .
You could always fit a handlebar conversion kit, which is what I'm doing to my 1999 VFR800.
Just purchased one of these. Had the VRF800 a year ago. Ended up switching then coming back to the VRF with the 800X (2007 model). Now upgrading to the newer model. Wonderful machines!
Thanks for watching Comrade - glad you like the bike!
Don't see why they can't put a decent sized front mudguard on instead of that tiny thing, also they should offer a handguards option. rear definitely needs a hugger. great review as always.
I love the sound of the V4 engine when VTEC gets on,great sound!
Yes it is a hoot isn't it....
I own a 1250 bandit I was looking at a triumph tiger 800 now I'm thinking about this cross runner? I sat on one at CMC Cannock it felt really comfortable.
Like the format, like the spiel, you're getting really good at this! Another informative & revealing review, marvellous.
Thank you :0)
Great review... 'tactile buttons'.... but for touring there really is no replacement for displacement. My brother made that mistake years ago. He was probably a mile from the dealers on a vfr800 when he realised he should have bought the 1100 super blackbird.
Oh dear, what did he do?
You mentioned the heated grips, but has anyone ever carried out a 'Heated Grips V Heated Gloves' review? Perhaps something for you to look into..
Having used both, I'm a fan of Grips!
Fantastic bike own a vfr800 f now but have had an early one of these couldn't fault far better finished than any Yamaha kawasaki or Suzuki and reliability second to none
Glad you like, I would argue that Yamaha also do great quality machines (don't know so much about suzuki as have never owned one)....by the Honda is an under rated and nice bit of kit for sure...
I have a one in white. Just ordered my panniers from honda, £800 including the lock kits, not cheap. But a great smooth comfortable bike. Not to mention the powerful twin LED headlights. Odd lamp beam but work well. One last point. Honda dont make the handguards anymore, you have to buy Givi ones and they dont really stop your fingers getting cold........ Panniers now have been fitted and they look great. Also, just had the led fogs fitted, super bright.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
In the states dealers ate pushing new stock from 2015 model year vfrs for 8k ish in some cases. To own that v4 I am tempted
Sounds like a bargain!
Don't mean to sound facetious but there are no "additional" valves all the v-tec system does is lift the cams at a certain rpm in order to change the profile.
Morning Mr Flyer, if you like that try the VFR1200 powered Crosstourer. That was my second choice when I bought my GS. See if you can get a long term ride on that I think you will love it.
Yes I'd love a go on one - must sort that out - stay tuned!
The CrossTourer is simply too out of date tech wise, needs at least the option of cruise control
, LED headlight and electronic suspension.
Yes Sam, I found the gearbox a little clunky to, it does everything very well but characterless compared to the GS
Great Bike, superb engine. Perhaps my gripe being 6' 3" is that your legs are in quite a tight tuck and so perhaps not fantastic for really long rides. Took mine to Norway and suffered a little but it didn't stop me enjoying the trip.
I know im randomly asking but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account?
I somehow lost the password. I love any assistance you can give me!
@Davian Brayan instablaster =)
@Canaan Braxton Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out atm.
Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Canaan Braxton it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thanks so much you really help me out !
@Davian Brayan no problem :D
Did a long run yesterday that seat is murder will have to get it redone
wow i was looking at this bike to possibly purchase, i checked your honda playlists 2 days ago and it wasn't there, its like you read my mind, thanks TMF - Dean
I aim to please....
That V-TEC sound is why we loved Honda Interceptors for years.......
Thanks TMF. You're my favourite reviewer, another great review.
This is the genre of bikes that I'm looking at and I was glad you compared it to the V-Strom and Tracer. I've ridden all of those except the Honda. I'm not considering the Versys but I am considering the Z1000SX/Ninja 1000 to these bikes. If you get the chance I would love to see a review of that bike. Bang for buck it's very impressive on paper. I rode the 2016 Z1000SX and like it a lot but I love the sound of V twin and V4's. If only the Multistrada 950 was cheaper in Australia!
Thanks again, you're a ripper mate!
Cheers Charlie, as it happens I am due to be riding the Z1000SX in the next couple of weeks - stay tuned!
Brilliant. Thanks for the really quick reply.
No worries.....
Finally bought this bike!!
Congratulations!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It was your review that done it for me I was sold after watching this so I waited for a good price and traded in my NC 750x for a good price. No regrets, the Crossrunner 800 is a great bike.
Seems very similar to my versys. These bikes are good and functional if a little bland. Good to see a Honda pop up on your channel.
Yes agreed, great machines, but lacking in the excitement/"lighting your fire" department......
Someone tell Honda bring it to the US.
I was just going to say that! I just fell in love with this thing, and in the US you can only get the 1200 :/
Maybe it is coming to the US. I don’t know. But it is no longer on the market in the EU because of new restrictions regarding pollution.
I’m a happy owner of the Crossrunner - love the bike. And the build quality 👍. 🇩🇰
It's useful to playback at speed 1.25 to see how the bike handles when ridden at brisk speed.
Great to see you have gotten to "have a play" on a Honda v4. Really easy going friendly bike. Pity Honda don't make a v4 fireblade.
Yes the engine sure is a peach on this....
Nice review, thanks for making it. Made me want to try one out.
Why pick the GS over this? or even why pick the "big" tourers (gs, 1290 ktm, tiger etc) when bike like these have "enough" power?
Very good point, a liking for electronic toys, pose value?
So, the big question: Would you consider a VFR800 Crossrunner as a replacement for your GS when the time comes. I have to say, for me, the Crossrunner ticks all the boxes.
Depends on the finances - but yes in a word...
That's high praise indeed considering how much you like the GS ;)
Great review. I’m considering one of these second hand vs a new Honda NC750x anyone have any experience of both?
Think you got that one wrong TMF I do remember you riding Richy Vida’s Honda VFR800 Vtec. And he has never let anyone else ride it. Great review tho TMF you are one of the best reviews on TH-cam. Keep em coming buddy we love you😃😃
Wow, thank you very much (blush).....
It reminds me of my old Yamaha TDM900. More power but less torque. That was a gorgeous bike to ride and averaged nearly 65mpg. What does the crossrunner do to the gallon?
I get 52-58 MPG depending or road and riding style
Well done - been following since the CRF250L. Great review, lots of commentary about options, view from the cockpit and wind feel - keep it up!
Will do - thanks for sticking with me!
Nice review! Looking forward to the long term test if you get the chance!
That V-TEC sounds incredible! Really does sound like a Civic Si, I imagine it's 10x more visceral though
The v tech is awesome
I had the vstrom 650 and then brought one of these , I'm really impressed with it very smooth , and Honda quality . Have.an akrapovic can on so sounds great. I agree with the horn and indicator switch
...pain that isn't it!
Which one was more comfortable for long trips? Vstrom or Honda?
Quick question,on a tour ,say the Scottish west coast 500 what would you rather be on ,this or the Ducati multi strada 950?
Regards.
Quick answer: Multi.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer ok.what about as a keeper.?
V4 Hondas have sang their siren song to me since 1982....one day. Thinking VTEC and the system on my 2005 Mustang GT are similar. Variable valve timing along with butterflies in the intake runners that open electrically at 3500 rpm. Quite the kick from that point forward....thanks for this.
Sounds good to me!
You should try an old 5th gen Vfr sometime if you can, gear driven cams and no silly vtec, get one with a nice end can, the sound is fantastic when you wind her up, the vtec ruined them though the 6th gen had great styling and better headlights, great review as always,brilliant channel !!
Thanks for the kind comments - much appreciated! All the best - TMF
Seems a cracking bike!...but I've got a '97 Blackbird with only 20K miles, so, since I'm 67, I'm done!
That is a beautiful and great sounding bike. Harley is so dominant where I live, one can forget that there are sophisticated bikes like this around.
I wonder how the Honda V-4 bikes compare to the Ducati V-4?
Good question!
Another great review. I never understand why manufacturers cover up the wheel of a single sided swing arm.something cool like that needs to be shown off
Yes agreed, having said that, of course they have to put the exhaust somewhere (but I guess if you're going to the effort of having a single sided swing arm you'd engineer the exhaust underneath or something....)
Thanks for the review looking for another bike didn't know it exhisted one to add to my list
Good Evening TMF, Thank you for another super review . I am sure if you ever tried a Honda S T 1300 Paneuropean you would be so impressed by how smooth the engine and ride is . Please if you get chance, ride one because you don"t know what you are missing. Take Care .
I'd love too - another of the Police's favourite bikes! ...well for a while...
Always loved that V-Tec growl..
Yep - I'm a convert now....