Your video was great I was on the super loop last week from White City to Uxbridge the traffic was so bad I had to get off at southall I fully agree with parts of the super loop are fab infact twhen I got of at southall there were to super loops in front of ours. Keep up the great work Paul in Kent
I tried it on the day it started service - outside busy hours, you can feel the benefit as the bus zooms past all the stops between Finchley Central and the Quadrant. Unfortunately, one passenger had got on at Finchley Central without realising it was an express service. I don't think he was quite as impressed!
Many thanks for this great, informative video and your perceptive comments. Like you, I'm keen for SL to succeed, and one advantage of express bus over rail is that it can be set up, and modified, relatively quickly. Some comments: Are there any bus priority measures planned for SL10? Maybe, as its popularity increases, driving and parking can be restricted. SL should be publicised as part of the OG/tube/rail network to get you round suburban London fast. It's great that SL10 (unlike SL7) connects with all the radial routes it crosses. Is that publicised - e.g. on the OG/tube/rail routes and network maps? The SL map should also highlight the interchanges. SL should have clear, large publicity - timetables, wayfinding, at stops, on buses etc. - it really should not be possible to get on an SL bus and not know it! Frequency - every 12 minutes is dismal: not enough to 'turn up and go' comfortably; bus times are not easy to remember; not attractive enough to generate much transfer from driving - is there any research on what frequency gets the best modal shift?. My driving friends in 'outer London' do so because much of their travel is to other suburban centres (rather than central London): they would look for at least 8 per hour to make the switch. A good network must have good frequency on all its routes, to make interchanging easy. It's not rocket science - the Underground has done this for over a century! Apart from SL7, the SL routes are all quite short. How about each one extending over a third of the 'loop' - that's as much as anyone could want to travel peripherally - more than that and it will be quicker to go via central London. But there could be overlaps, say six routes, each overlapping two others. All every 15 minutes - giving 8 buses/hour at any stop all round the loop. To amuse myself one day, I made a spreadsheet showing the differences between car and public transport travel times around outer London. PT won where rail or OG was possible; in North London car was faster where the journey made use of the N Circular road: do you think it would be possible to have a second SL loop around the N Circ? - maybe from Kew Bridge to the point where the main SL takes over? Would bus lanes be practicable, or politically possible? Connections with radial tube/rail/OG should be mostly OK - maybe the chance to build a Piccadilly line station near Hangar Lane ... Very much looking forward to your next video
To be fair, every 12 minutes isn't too bad and will likely improve as demand increases. I agree that wayfinding and bus priority measures should be improved though
9:59 I find Ballards lane is always so busy especially after schools finish for the day. There's so many buses on that road and it always feels so tight and cramped.
also does anyone know where brent cross is on this route because it would be better if the route serves there due to the newly built brent cross west and the brent cross town development
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Your video was great I was on the super loop last week from White City to Uxbridge the traffic was so bad I had to get off at southall I fully agree with parts of the super loop are fab infact twhen I got of at southall there were to super loops in front of ours. Keep up the great work Paul in Kent
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I tried it on the day it started service - outside busy hours, you can feel the benefit as the bus zooms past all the stops between Finchley Central and the Quadrant. Unfortunately, one passenger had got on at Finchley Central without realising it was an express service. I don't think he was quite as impressed!
Great video. I live on the SL7 (old X26) so am looking forward to exploring the rest of the Super Loop
Great video mate
Thank you very much!
Great videos. Rock on
Thanks, you too!
Well have another subscriber.
Thanks so much!
Many thanks for this great, informative video and your perceptive comments. Like you, I'm keen for SL to succeed, and one advantage of express bus over rail is that it can be set up, and modified, relatively quickly. Some comments:
Are there any bus priority measures planned for SL10? Maybe, as its popularity increases, driving and parking can be restricted.
SL should be publicised as part of the OG/tube/rail network to get you round suburban London fast. It's great that SL10 (unlike SL7) connects with all the radial routes it crosses. Is that publicised - e.g. on the OG/tube/rail routes and network maps? The SL map should also highlight the interchanges. SL should have clear, large publicity - timetables, wayfinding, at stops, on buses etc. - it really should not be possible to get on an SL bus and not know it!
Frequency - every 12 minutes is dismal: not enough to 'turn up and go' comfortably; bus times are not easy to remember; not attractive enough to generate much transfer from driving - is there any research on what frequency gets the best modal shift?. My driving friends in 'outer London' do so because much of their travel is to other suburban centres (rather than central London): they would look for at least 8 per hour to make the switch. A good network must have good frequency on all its routes, to make interchanging easy. It's not rocket science - the Underground has done this for over a century!
Apart from SL7, the SL routes are all quite short. How about each one extending over a third of the 'loop' - that's as much as anyone could want to travel peripherally - more than that and it will be quicker to go via central London. But there could be overlaps, say six routes, each overlapping two others. All every 15 minutes - giving 8 buses/hour at any stop all round the loop.
To amuse myself one day, I made a spreadsheet showing the differences between car and public transport travel times around outer London. PT won where rail or OG was possible; in North London car was faster where the journey made use of the N Circular road: do you think it would be possible to have a second SL loop around the N Circ? - maybe from Kew Bridge to the point where the main SL takes over? Would bus lanes be practicable, or politically possible? Connections with radial tube/rail/OG should be mostly OK - maybe the chance to build a Piccadilly line station near Hangar Lane ...
Very much looking forward to your next video
To be fair, every 12 minutes isn't too bad and will likely improve as demand increases. I agree that wayfinding and bus priority measures should be improved though
Question do you no the website or link which you mentioned about the busiest bus routes
tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publications-and-reports/buses-performance-data Should be in here, hope that helps :)
@@somenorthlondoner thank you so much very much appreciated
9:59 I find Ballards lane is always so busy especially after schools finish for the day. There's so many buses on that road and it always feels so tight and cramped.
That express bus talking about would run side 148 16 bit 266 north west via Central London to South East?
Maybe an express route up the Edgware Road could work but given the 332 was only just removed I’m not sure if that would be a good idea
Nice job random north Londoner who i definently have no clue who you are 🎉
11:54 the 83 doos already do that. Plus the 125 turns off for Colindale before getting to Hendon Central
The 83 goes to Kingsbury Green not Kingsbury and didn’t quite make it clear the 125 doesn’t go to Hendon C
SL10 to Barnet Hospital would be a very good extension
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Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it!
There could have new express bus camberwell to Brent Cross Cross bus service north west to South East via Central London it could be good service?
Surely it’d be faster getting Thameslink from Denmark Hill or Elephant & Castle to Brent Cross West for that journey?
also does anyone know where brent cross is on this route because it would be better if the route serves there due to the newly built brent cross west and the brent cross town development
It doesn’t serve Brent Cross but you can change at West Hendon or Hendon Central to reach it 😀
would of loved it if it went to watford but then the journey would be too long and it wouldn't complete the circle