Okay, just off the top of my head: Make sure the rental receipts are issued to your NIF on the Portuguese IRS Portal; turn on all major appliances at once to confirm you won’t run into any surprises in winter or while trying to use the dishwasher and the AC at the same time; run several faucets open at once to check whether there’s enough water pressure to keep, e.g., a hot shower and the washer working at the same time. This might sound silly, but Campo de Ourique is a fairly old neighbourhood, construction-wise, and those issues are not unheard of. Good luck 🤞
@Paulo de Sousa muito obrigada mesmo, great tip! Would you be able to advise on deposit please? I've read that it's common for landlords to ask for a fiador or for a few months rent deposit, which are NOT protected like in the UK, for example. How do Portuguese people normally go about this please? Muito obrigada pela atenção e ajuda!
This video is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! It’s fun seeing where you were just a couple months ago compared to where you are now!
This video is EXCELLENT! I have it saved - hoping to relocate by the end of 2022. I find that many content creators skip over the details, but the details what many people forget about or stress about -- like a/c in one room vs the whole place, and the countertop dishwasher... Having said that, you did skim over the part about utilities; what is included/not included, how are they paid for/hooked up. Hopefully this will be addressed when you talk about your specific apartment. Thanks for this video!
Fellow Austinite here (well now Houstonian). Super weird coincidence! When you were showing an example of apartment complexes in Austin for comparison purposes, you showed my unit layout at my old complex in Austin, Sync Mueller! Perhaps we were neighbors! I'm also planning on moving to Portugal in the next few years so I've subscribed to your channel for tips and guidance. Maybe I'll see you guys in Portugal!
Greetings from Kansas City! Just came across your channel, excited to learn more about your experience. My husband and I are doing a year-long trip to different countries to test out living abroad and Lisbon is our first stop! Trying to figure out which neighborhood we want to stay in.
Will you do a video perhaps about using various forms of public transportation in Lisbon? Maybe general tips about where/how to buy tickets, etc. I’m actually interested more in how easy/difficult using the train is for example between Lisbon/Porto or Lisbon/Coimbra. Cleanliness, timelines etc. thanks!
I am leaving in two days for Portugal and moving into the Cascais area to an airbnb and asked my Portuguese friends to help me find a place. I am in my ‘60’s, a single Mom and didn’t sell my house yet! I have owned my house and I agree the change is immense so I am also taking incremental changes!
I grew up in Camp de Ourique. It's a very desirable part of Lisbon, especially because of its awesome market, cafes on every corner, and very family oriented.
I love this channel! You guys are awesome. Just found you a little while ago. Would you be able to do a video about which USA appliances work in Portugal or the type of converter plug you need for your USA computers, lap tops, cell phones, electric shavers, etc. So far I haven’t seen many people talking about little details like that.
Cell phones & laptops should be ok, make sure you have the proper converter (and it’s not an old computer) but any other appliance, forget it. Hair dryers, curling irons, shavers… and so on, they will blow out. :) Just go to your laptop manufacturer and check with them. Apple products are no problem. Apple has a great travel set for their modular plugs. Works like a charm.
Also important to check each neighborhood at night, week and weekend, some places have a nice feel in the day and become fishy and isolate at night, others are fine in week nights, but noisy party-time on weekends until 6AM
In Lisbon city you can request best speed Internets to any street and they wont charge you extra, even if you are the only person on that street using their Internet, Lisbon may be bad in many things, but Food, Drinks and Internet, are a no brainer, if you are hiring yourself the service from the ISP and not going along with what the Landord has
Belavista is a great area for families, residential area with great schools, even one university, parks and even the biggest festival of rock is there (Rock-in-Rio Lisboa), for about ~1000€/month is very reasonable. I bet in September the students of (ISEL - Lisbon Engineering University) rent that house, because is very close.
@@ladyloquitavida148 Most bylaws for pet allowance is 2 (we have 4) so we had to purchase right away. We found that most homes have fully fenced yards and Portugal overall is very pet friendly. For us we had to choose within our budget, otherwise there are so many stunning places to choose from.
@@thepeacefulpack Thank you very much for your help! We are also limited with our budget because we are both retired. I have a pension from 1 job and of course SS income. We also have just enough money in 1 of our 401Ks to purchase a modest home. I have a few stocks that I've had for over 35 years, but I don't know if we'll be able to utilize them in this poor economy (USA). Looking for a cooler place that's pet-friendly and affordable! We won't be able to move until next spring, but we have a ton of stuff to get rid of, so we need that time! Hope you and your family are happy with your new home! 👍❣
@@ladyloquitavida148 Thank You. Portugal is an excellent choice and the silver coast is a beautiful area that has the goldilocks temperature...never too hot and never too cold.
Hi Guys. Super video and congrats on your new place. One thought came to mind re: noise you didn’t mention (I’m sensitive to noise as well). I understand some neighborhoods in Lisbon are subject to airplane noise from the nearby airport. Did you avoid those neighborhoods or did it just work out that way? Obrigado.
That is a really great point! We are in one of the neighborhood with airplane noise. We do hear them a lot, but the windows are good at blocking the noise. It’s a trade off we were ok with. The only downside is we don’t like to keep the windows open, when that would be nice to keep open to have a breeze.
Thanks for your reply. Also good to know that refurbished apartments have sound-proof windows. Hope to visit Lisbon and rest of Portugal before end of 2021. 🤞🏻 Congrats again on your new place. 🎉 🎊
what are the norms/standards/expectations/laws about subleasing in lisbon and PT in general? For example, even with a D7, I may still spend a significant amount of time outside PT and consider subletting via airbnb or the like if acceptable.
Thanks much for this, and very helpful. But several questions I am not clear about: how much you paid for it? How much of a deposit for how many months? And was it not risky renting from the owners directly, given the warning by the expatseverywhere? You know, I suspect, what happened to their apartment in Porto, and they had to move out because of mould and flooding problems. Fortunately, the company they rented from relocated them since they have other apartments; but single owners cannot do that in case something goes wrong with the apartment. So they recommended renting from a company. But they said the same company may not be available everywhere though.
We will do a new video with more details on our actual apartment, but we ended up paying €1,300, 2 months up front and 1 month as a security deposit, so 3 months total. As far as single owners vs a company, I think both can work out well. We felt really comfortable with the family we are renting from and like that they lived in the property for 10 years themselves until it was too small for thier growing family. They also had recently done some improvements that showed to me they were taking care of the house. So it really just depends on the situation I guess. I guess time will tell if we made the right choice.
Really enjoying your videos guys. We are planning on moving next year and it's been helpful to see all the process. Question: did you guys sell your house before or after the visa application approval and if you sold it before, can you explain how you proved residency for the application?...
Glad you are enjoying them! We applied while we were in the closing process. Then once approved we gave them a new address to send our passports with Visa to. If you plan on selling your home a few months before applying I think just putting your new temp address on everything would be ok. It should match your bank statements for sure.
I bet in the US they hire professional photographers to take care of the photos, thats why the photos look better than the place. In Portugal the owner of the place take the photos himself with his 8 years old cellphone and is done. The place look a lot better than the photos.
I am struggling to find the info..under the D7 visa rules do one have to stay there permanently or I read somewhere that a period of 14 nights is sufficient. Thnx for sharing
With D7 visa you need to stay in the country at least half year (6 months), but you need to show at least accommodations for 6 months can be one month in 6 different airbnb. If they ask in SEF appointment why you stay in different places, you tell them that you want to live in Portugal but you are feel different places to make a wise choice where you going to live. Another thing that nobody are saying, you need to have a portuguese cellphone number, because almost COVID messages, fire warnings and lots of government issues, they send a message to all portuguese cellphone, when you go to SEF in Portugal. They going to ask, my lawyer friend have to give his number temporary to some Brazilian clients.
This exemple to tell the people the Portuguese alerts. Some about COVID and others about heavy rains... www.i-tecnico.pt/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Protec%C3%A7%C3%A3o-Civil-SMS-COVID19.png
Hello! My girlfriend and I are moving to Lisbon so that she can complete her master program in Lisbon. We are struggling with the housing. How do you think the best way to get around the 6 month accommodation side of the visa. We obviously would love to tour apartments before moving in in September. Would love your guys feedback. Oh and we’re also moving from Austin 🤠
That’s awesome! For the D7 Visa I’m not sure of a way to get around it anymore, we used Flatio and later cancelled the reservation but not sure if that still works. Have you looked into the student visa? Not sure if it’s any different.
@@HoneymoonAlways thank you for your quick reply. Yeah we looked into flatio but the housing an options were not great. We think we are going to go with Spotahome. Their cancellation policies are good and have more options. We’ll be sure to say hi if we see you both! Thanks!
Hello Honeymoon Please can arrange a 3 bedroom at the price of 750 Euro Monthly? As I am looking for 3 rooms for a lease contract to make a D7 application. If it's available kindly let me know so we can proceed with the booking.
@@HoneymoonAlways both lol I didn't know that people do that when they changed home from one country to another country maybe because I live in India and never saw anyone leaving country here to live in another country. Well maybe mostly because I live in most underdeveloped part of India.
Paulo de Sousa: could you kindly tell me of those parties for voting? I want to do my civic duty to vote to protect the grassroots citizens. But I don’t know these political parties. Can you tell me which political party has always been a voice for the grassroots people in parliamentary voting in the past? There are 18 parties, how many can I vote for? Because I was born Portuguese in Macau!
You both drop your voices about mid-sentence and then taper off completely making it difficult to hear what your saying. That and it sounds as though your in an echo chamber. I hope you will keep your voices at the level that you start with. I'm not being mean, watch the video yourselves.
With current Pandemic, it's a good time to lease an apartment. Owners are more open to lower prices, but also to ease some stuff that usual they don't. If the apartment has no AC, the best time to take a tour is in the afternoon, that way, you will see how good / bad is it, at the hottest time of the day. Idealista.pt , imovirtual.com, those are general purpose sites, so the user is responsible for the information. So they might not be updated to the day, and that's why you got a bunch of places already booked, compared to sites owned by real estate companies, like remax and century21.
Okay, just off the top of my head: Make sure the rental receipts are issued to your NIF on the Portuguese IRS Portal; turn on all major appliances at once to confirm you won’t run into any surprises in winter or while trying to use the dishwasher and the AC at the same time; run several faucets open at once to check whether there’s enough water pressure to keep, e.g., a hot shower and the washer working at the same time. This might sound silly, but Campo de Ourique is a fairly old neighbourhood, construction-wise, and those issues are not unheard of. Good luck 🤞
Those are some great tips! Obrigado Paulo
Great advice.
Things I would never think of.. GREAT advice!
Great advice, especially on the electricity!
@Paulo de Sousa muito obrigada mesmo, great tip! Would you be able to advise on deposit please? I've read that it's common for landlords to ask for a fiador or for a few months rent deposit, which are NOT protected like in the UK, for example. How do Portuguese people normally go about this please? Muito obrigada pela atenção e ajuda!
This video is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! It’s fun seeing where you were just a couple months ago compared to where you are now!
This video is EXCELLENT! I have it saved - hoping to relocate by the end of 2022. I find that many content creators skip over the details, but the details what many people forget about or stress about -- like a/c in one room vs the whole place, and the countertop dishwasher... Having said that, you did skim over the part about utilities; what is included/not included, how are they paid for/hooked up. Hopefully this will be addressed when you talk about your specific apartment. Thanks for this video!
Thank you Kathy for your comment! We will go into more detail in our next video, those are some good details to go over.
Fellow Austinite here (well now Houstonian). Super weird coincidence! When you were showing an example of apartment complexes in Austin for comparison purposes, you showed my unit layout at my old complex in Austin, Sync Mueller! Perhaps we were neighbors! I'm also planning on moving to Portugal in the next few years so I've subscribed to your channel for tips and guidance. Maybe I'll see you guys in Portugal!
You are doing the best possible step-by-step guides, folks - incredibly useful and easy to watch. Thanks a lot!
Welcome to Portugal and my best wishes that we find happiness and harmony in Portugal 🇵🇹❤️!!
Thank you Afonso!
You have made us even more excited about our own journey from the US to PT. We aren’t quite as far along as you are, but we are working on it!
Good luck on your journey!
Good video - my wife and I are scouting for our eventual move. Good luck on settling in!
Thanks Martin!
Greetings from Kansas City! Just came across your channel, excited to learn more about your experience.
My husband and I are doing a year-long trip to different countries to test out living abroad and Lisbon is our first stop! Trying to figure out which neighborhood we want to stay in.
I am so happy that I found your channel! Ny husband and I plan on leaving the US when we retire and Portugal right now is our first choice.
Will you do a video perhaps about using various forms of public transportation in Lisbon? Maybe general tips about where/how to buy tickets, etc. I’m actually interested more in how easy/difficult using the train is for example between Lisbon/Porto or Lisbon/Coimbra. Cleanliness, timelines etc. thanks!
I am leaving in two days for Portugal and moving into the Cascais area to an airbnb and asked my Portuguese friends to help me find a place. I am in my ‘60’s, a single Mom and didn’t sell my house yet! I have owned my house and I agree the change is immense so I am also taking incremental changes!
Omg that faltio idea is brilliant
I grew up in Camp de Ourique. It's a very desirable part of Lisbon, especially because of its awesome market, cafes on every corner, and very family oriented.
Couldn't agree more!
I love this channel! You guys are awesome. Just found you a little while ago. Would you be able to do a video about which USA appliances work in Portugal or the type of converter plug you need for your USA computers, lap tops, cell phones, electric shavers, etc. So far I haven’t seen many people talking about little details like that.
Cell phones & laptops should be ok, make sure you have the proper converter (and it’s not an old computer) but any other appliance, forget it. Hair dryers, curling irons, shavers… and so on, they will blow out. :)
Just go to your laptop manufacturer and check with them. Apple products are no problem. Apple has a great travel set for their modular plugs. Works like a charm.
@@JenShea Thanks for responding Jen!
Really great video. Congrats on your new home, it looks lovely!
Thank you!
Also important to check each neighborhood at night, week and weekend, some places have a nice feel in the day and become fishy and isolate at night, others are fine in week nights, but noisy party-time on weekends until 6AM
Very useful info about the way to enter Lisbon rental market. Thank you so much!
In Lisbon city you can request best speed Internets to any street and they wont charge you extra, even if you are the only person on that street using their Internet, Lisbon may be bad in many things, but Food, Drinks and Internet, are a no brainer, if you are hiring yourself the service from the ISP and not going along with what the Landord has
Really nice video guys. I’m planing to move to Lisbon next year and your tips were amazing. Thank you. Xx
Yay! Thanks for sharing your awesome experience. Adding your snippets to my notes.
Hope its helpful!
Belavista is a great area for families, residential area with great schools, even one university, parks and even the biggest festival of rock is there (Rock-in-Rio Lisboa), for about ~1000€/month is very reasonable.
I bet in September the students of (ISEL - Lisbon Engineering University) rent that house, because is very close.
Campo de Ourique é one of the coolest area of Lisbon to live: nice restaurants , cafes and a great market . Cheers
We thought so too!
Thank you but I would have liked to learn about the monthly rental cost.
14:46 Campo de Ourique,its the French quarter in Lisbon!
yes
congratulations and many blessings for your new adventure. we wanted to rent first...only with pets our options were close to zero options.
Yeah, its hard enough without pets so I can imagine!
Do you have any recommendations for people with pets?
Also, are there neighborhoods with fenced yards? Thank you for your time! 👍
@@ladyloquitavida148 Most bylaws for pet allowance is 2 (we have 4) so we had to purchase right away. We found that most homes have fully fenced yards and Portugal overall is very pet friendly. For us we had to choose within our budget, otherwise there are so many stunning places to choose from.
@@thepeacefulpack Thank you very much for your help! We are also limited with our budget because we are both retired. I have a pension from 1 job and of course SS income. We also have just enough money in 1 of our 401Ks to purchase a modest home. I have a few stocks that I've had for over 35 years, but I don't know if we'll be able to utilize them in this poor economy (USA). Looking for a cooler place that's pet-friendly and affordable! We won't be able to move until next spring, but we have a ton of stuff to get rid of, so we need that time! Hope you and your family are happy with your new home! 👍❣
@@ladyloquitavida148 Thank You. Portugal is an excellent choice and the silver coast is a beautiful area that has the goldilocks temperature...never too hot and never too cold.
Hi Guys. Super video and congrats on your new place. One thought came to mind re: noise you didn’t mention (I’m sensitive to noise as well). I understand some neighborhoods in Lisbon are subject to airplane noise from the nearby airport. Did you avoid those neighborhoods or did it just work out that way? Obrigado.
That is a really great point! We are in one of the neighborhood with airplane noise. We do hear them a lot, but the windows are good at blocking the noise. It’s a trade off we were ok with. The only downside is we don’t like to keep the windows open, when that would be nice to keep open to have a breeze.
Thanks for your reply. Also good to know that refurbished apartments have sound-proof windows. Hope to visit Lisbon and rest of Portugal before end of 2021. 🤞🏻 Congrats again on your new place. 🎉 🎊
You both are awesome! What a resource!
Thanks Ingrid!
Love the videos. Keep em coming!
We leave comments on for you!! @aimeeslater1 👀
How exciting for you guys!
Thank you! We are very excited and will share more when we move in.
Thank you, guys. The info is great.
Hope it was helpful!
what are the norms/standards/expectations/laws about subleasing in lisbon and PT in general? For example, even with a D7, I may still spend a significant amount of time outside PT and consider subletting via airbnb or the like if acceptable.
In our lease it says we cannot sublease, so I would review your lease and you can always discuss this with your landlord.
Thanks for info. What kind of prices did you find?
Nice couple!!! ❤❤
Thanks ☺️
So how were you able to get your visa without having the rental agreement first? You got your lease while in country. How did that work?
Welcome to Campo de Ourique we’re neighbors! We moved here in March from the US .
Maybe we’ll see you around!
Thanks much for this, and very helpful. But several questions I am not clear about: how much you paid for it? How much of a deposit for how many months? And was it not risky renting from the owners directly, given the warning by the expatseverywhere? You know, I suspect, what happened to their apartment in Porto, and they had to move out because of mould and flooding problems. Fortunately, the company they rented from relocated them since they have other apartments; but single owners cannot do that in case something goes wrong with the apartment. So they recommended renting from a company. But they said the same company may not be available everywhere though.
We will do a new video with more details on our actual apartment, but we ended up paying €1,300, 2 months up front and 1 month as a security deposit, so 3 months total. As far as single owners vs a company, I think both can work out well. We felt really comfortable with the family we are renting from and like that they lived in the property for 10 years themselves until it was too small for thier growing family. They also had recently done some improvements that showed to me they were taking care of the house. So it really just depends on the situation I guess. I guess time will tell if we made the right choice.
Really enjoying your videos guys. We are planning on moving next year and it's been helpful to see all the process. Question: did you guys sell your house before or after the visa application approval and if you sold it before, can you explain how you proved residency for the application?...
Glad you are enjoying them! We applied while we were in the closing process. Then once approved we gave them a new address to send our passports with Visa to. If you plan on selling your home a few months before applying I think just putting your new temp address on everything would be ok. It should match your bank statements for sure.
@@HoneymoonAlways That makes sense. My worry was for the FBI clearance address to be the same as the one we file our visas.
Prices??? You forgot the most important part. Thanks for the overview.
This video is a year old and so the prices have already changed a lot
Congrats!!!!
Thank you Sharon!
Congrats ☺️💚
U guys are really sweet ☺️
Obrigado Ana!
And what is the rent? You have not mentioned it
I bet in the US they hire professional photographers to take care of the photos, thats why the photos look better than the place.
In Portugal the owner of the place take the photos himself with his 8 years old cellphone and is done. The place look a lot better than the photos.
its a more realistic way to do things lol we Portuguese people are "to the point" type of people don't u think?
Yes. I believe the far majority are photoshoped and cut and paste. Some as bad as a botched facelift.
That’s pretty awesome!
Thanks for the support Martha!
I am struggling to find the info..under the D7 visa rules do one have to stay there permanently or I read somewhere that a period of 14 nights is sufficient. Thnx for sharing
With D7 visa you need to stay in the country at least half year (6 months), but you need to show at least accommodations for 6 months can be one month in 6 different airbnb. If they ask in SEF appointment why you stay in different places, you tell them that you want to live in Portugal but you are feel different places to make a wise choice where you going to live.
Another thing that nobody are saying, you need to have a portuguese cellphone number, because almost COVID messages, fire warnings and lots of government issues, they send a message to all portuguese cellphone, when you go to SEF in Portugal. They going to ask, my lawyer friend have to give his number temporary to some Brazilian clients.
This exemple to tell the people the Portuguese alerts. Some about COVID and others about heavy rains...
www.i-tecnico.pt/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Protec%C3%A7%C3%A3o-Civil-SMS-COVID19.png
Hello! My girlfriend and I are moving to Lisbon so that she can complete her master program in Lisbon. We are struggling with the housing. How do you think the best way to get around the 6 month accommodation side of the visa. We obviously would love to tour apartments before moving in in September. Would love your guys feedback. Oh and we’re also moving from Austin 🤠
That’s awesome! For the D7 Visa I’m not sure of a way to get around it anymore, we used Flatio and later cancelled the reservation but not sure if that still works. Have you looked into the student visa? Not sure if it’s any different.
@@HoneymoonAlways thank you for your quick reply. Yeah we looked into flatio but the housing an options were not great. We think we are going to go with Spotahome. Their cancellation policies are good and have more options. We’ll be sure to say hi if we see you both! Thanks!
How much time would you suggest to budget as an expat arriving in PT to find an apartment?
There are so many factors. I would look at idealista.pt to see what you find.
Nice
Hello Honeymoon Please can arrange a 3 bedroom at the price of 750 Euro Monthly?
As I am looking for 3 rooms for a lease contract to make a D7 application.
If it's available kindly let me know so we can proceed with the booking.
Sorry, we can’t help with that.
Bem vindos a Lisboa
Obrigado!
💖💖💖💖💖
Thanks
Dumb question... did you take any belongings with you from the US to Portugal & how is that done?
I think they don't for the most things and they buy things again after going to other country or maybe they rent fully furnished apartments.
We took 8 bags all together on the plane. Some people ship their things in containers
@@HoneymoonAlways damn! I didn't know people do that lol but good for you guys 😁
Which part, the shipping containers or 8 bags on a plane?
@@HoneymoonAlways both lol I didn't know that people do that when they changed home from one country to another country maybe because I live in India and never saw anyone leaving country here to live in another country. Well maybe mostly because I live in most underdeveloped part of India.
Baleal island aerial view - 4K Ultra HD - TH-cam try this place ,
Is Dan Portuguese? Or did he learn it later in life?
I learned while living in Brazil - Dan
@@HoneymoonAlways you’re a legend 💪🏾 any best practices you’d like to share?
@@face2much We actually have a video about that coming up! But the best thing is forcing yourself to practice with Portuguese speakers.
@@HoneymoonAlways great, looking forward it!
Ok, I am hooked ... what did you agree to pay for #5?
€1,300, and we will have a video next week with more info about that!
No prices!
Hi Mary, you can see the prices on the screen shots in the video.
Hello, do they do short term leases? 1-2-3 month. Thanks!
For short term, I would recommend flatio.com or vrbo.com
Paulo de Sousa: could you kindly tell me of those parties for voting? I want to do my civic duty to vote to protect the grassroots citizens. But I don’t know these political parties. Can you tell me which political party has always been a voice for the grassroots people in parliamentary voting in the past? There are 18 parties, how many can I vote for? Because I was born Portuguese in Macau!
l am intareasd sir
You both drop your voices about mid-sentence and then taper off completely making it difficult to hear what your saying. That and it sounds as though your in an echo chamber. I hope you will keep your voices at the level that you start with. I'm not being mean, watch the video yourselves.
Thanks for your feedback!
With current Pandemic, it's a good time to lease an apartment. Owners are more open to lower prices, but also to ease some stuff that usual they don't.
If the apartment has no AC, the best time to take a tour is in the afternoon, that way, you will see how good / bad is it, at the hottest time of the day.
Idealista.pt , imovirtual.com, those are general purpose sites, so the user is responsible for the information. So they might not be updated to the day, and that's why you got a bunch of places already booked, compared to sites owned by real estate companies, like remax and century21.