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I use The Ordinary Buffet peptide serum mixed with their Niacinamide serum, followed by a light, fragrance-free SPF lotion in the a.m. I use their Retinol serum at night, followed by 2 drops of squalene or jojoba oil for light moisturizing overnight. I have oily skin in summer and combo in winter.
Marie Josee Pitre Even better is the Hylamide Anti-aging Serum by Deciem. Is is more expensive than the Ordinary but it have much higher concentrations of the ingredients. Cheers!
Just started my skin care regime ~ The science behind The ordinary is hard to argue with, they don't use marketing at all. I got their mineral SPF 30, Their VitC serum 30% in silicone, Their Buffet peptide serum (just loaded full of everything your skin could ever want!) My first retinol (0.2% in squaleane) and finally Their organic cold pressed rose-hip seed oil for hydration and photo damage repair. I cant wait and their prices are ..... simply perfect.
Peptides are natural biological or artificially manufactured SHORT not LONG chains of amino acid monomers linked by peptide (amide) bonds. Peptides are SHORT polymers of amino acids linked by peptide (amide) bonds.
Nadine I'm not sure why you would say 'nobody had heard of peptides'. Anyone who studied physiology or chemistry and several other sciences have long known what peptides are.
Thank you, I feel the same about Perricone products in general. Liked the derma roller information and tried it a week ago. Still feeling the benefits at .2 so will wait another week or so to do again, also have the anti itch creams handy....keep up the good work loving all the information.
Love your channel Nadine! I was wondering juwt how much serums, lotions, etc, can ones skin really absorb? Are we loading on all these products for nothing?
I think I felt in love with you when U said you will not suck up to any companies and have us buy something expensive when it doesn’t work .. yepppp where have u been all my life ? Better now than never thank you so very very much for all those Infos
I had given up on peptides. I've tried The Ordinary Buffet, a couple from Peter Thomas Roth, one each from Sanitas and Hydropeptide and a straight Synthe 6 peptide serum. I swore off peptides because it seemed like a combination of AHAs, BHAs and niacinamide in my Biologique P50 lotion, a CE Ferulic serum, a HA serum from NIOD and a Px tretinoin product were doing as much as you can do aside from a good sunscreen on 60+ skin that has seen neither a needle, a laser or a surgeon's knife. Then you had to go and do this vlog. You got me looking for something new in the peptide world I had never seen. Not sure if you can get this brand in the UK - it's Canadian, though I'm from the US. I've tried their older peptide formulations, but this one sounds interesting. I may give it a try. www.isomers.ca/Product.aspx?Tab=Directions&ProductID=4384#
Nadine; thank you for recommending Estée Lauder's eye serum. It's divine! I've used it for the past three nights and I've already noticed an improvement on how my eye make applies and wears 💋
I found this on the Ordinary website under the information about Matrixl: "It is best to not use Peptides in the same routine as the following products: Direct acids, LAA (L-Ascorbic Acid) and ELAA (Ethylated Ascorbic Acid). In addition, we would recommend avoiding the use of products containing copper peptides in the same routine as strong antioxidants as well as direct acids/LAA/ELAA." I don't know if they only mean mixing peptides with "the Ordinary" acid formulations or any acids at all. I think they neutralise one another.
ruth b ..I agree...so much perfume...I mean why, why do these skincare brands do this when they know it's not good for the skin, it's irritating and lastly it NOT needed in products, who wants to go to bed stinking or string scented skincare, yuk
I use peptides in my routine bc I buy into Environ’s skincare philosophy but Dr Dray says that there is little scientific evidence that says peptides in skincare are effective. She’s very evidence based and a dermatologist. For those you wanting to geek out on the science of skincare, you should check out her channel.
I have checked her out...I find her to be negeitive...about most products...I no longer watch her vids. there are other better reliable sources for knowledge...that my take-away
@@la-chicagitana9949 She, like most dermatologists and scientists, are negative about a lot of "anti-aging" products bc she's not trying to sell you things that only make a difference that is visible under a microscope with an $80+ price tag slapped on. Having an actual degree and working with skin for a living will naturally result in being skeptical and "negative" about a whole bunch of over-hyped marketing bc you've actually been in a lab and studied how skin works. I don't mean just her specifically, I constantly see these types of comments about doctors and people who have actually studied the science of these products, oh "they're negative". I guess people really don't like being told that they've been fooled into believing far too much hype. If we were to believe what skincare companies tell us we would believe in all sorts of massive exaggerations, for years they tried to tell everybody that Hyaluronic Acid is some sort of anti-aging miracle worker instead of just something that temporarily draws moisture to the top layers of our skin that makes skin look temporarily and minimally plumped. If anything I'm the most skeptical about "influencers" who are positive about most skincare ingredients while knowing little about the actual science behind it. "I tried this product for a week or two and I FELT it was doing something" is not necessarily evidence of anything, it's the same as people being given placebo pills that are supposedly medicine claiming they felt so much better immediately after taking the pill. These influencers might be more "relatable" to the average person but that doesn't make their opinions more reliable. I like people like Nadine, Labmuffin, Dr Dray and so on bc they take a pragmatic approach and delve deeper, the same can't be said for most youtubers who might be more "positive" but whose opinion carries the same weight as "I heard from my neighbour who heard from her friend that it worked for her".
Love your channel I have learned so much and am transforming my skin because of it! Do you think eyelash serums are effective? What is the active ingredient to look for?
The brand Dermaquest is notable for it peptide complex products as well.Also, the German brand RAU (I do not know of this brand is available in the UK or US) has some products that are true peptide-bombs.The (very expensive) brand Osmosis also has some impressive peptide loaded serums!But of course the Ordinary would be a good source, and very nice to your wallet too.And... the peptide Argireline is one that CAN work instantly (for a quick fix, a night out, o.s.l.t.), for example in the product Instantly Ageless by Jeunesse.I use all of the above, with truly amazing results.Greetings from Europe, The Netherlands
I currently use 3 Osmosis Products, not all at the same time or day of course!I use Osmosis Catalyst AC-11 lever 3 DNA repair serum Osmosis Stemfactor Growth Factor serum Osmosis Renew level 4 vitamin A serum
Constantijn van den Hout ...thanks for replying. I currently use the Osmosis clarify and the correct level 3, I rotate them...can you tell me if these have the correct amount of peptides of do I need to add the products you mentioned you use? I am running out so will be placing another order but this time I will get the level 4 only so I want to know which other product to add onto my order as I need peptide serum. Can you please tell me, do you believe growth factors actually work, there is no studies that show they work, I don’t want to be wasting my money as Osmosis is very expensive and I live in the uk so I have to pay extra duty and tax costs when I order this. Many thanks x
I have to honestly tell you that I purchased the Osmosis Renew level 4 the last, before that I only had the former mentioned two Osmosis products, but now I use the OR Renew level 4 the most of the three.Sometimes I even use this one with ON TOP a retinol 1% , let's say Paula's Choice 1%,(but I also do this with my tretinoine cream 0.05%, when I think I need heavy guns that night. My skin can stand it very well, I am sure that is not the case with everybody, so take heed!As for the stemcells, or growthfactors, I am unsure, just like you are, I use this one the least, and I will not purchase that one again since I have seen better results with the Renew level 4. I do hold Osmosis in very high esteem though, and will keep on using the Renew level 4.When it somes down to the point: I always come back to my basic tretinoine, and beside that some heavily peptide loaded serums.The proof is in the pudding, isn't it? I am 58 but look at least 10 to 15 years younger... and some even think I am even younger still, and I did not look that way two years ago, that's for sure ( when I started my skincare journey, being appaled at my "sudden"" ageing head in the mirror).My credits go for the most part to the consistent use of tretinoine (did magic for my droopy upper eye lids!), but I have to emphasize that consistent use is the magical word when it comes to skin care.
Constantijn van den Hout ....I use the Spain version of tretinoin as it’s not easily accessible here in the uk. I used the 0.05% only on tues and sat nights...my skin cannot handle more than this, rest of the nights I use the Osmosis. I am 44 and ppl say I look 28 lol...I will never stop tretinoin even if it’s only once per week I will still use it. In the mornings I use the glycolic Toner from the ordinary, I then apply my Vit C by timeless and then matrixyl sinthe 6 and coq10 and ha serums which are also by timeless, then the cereve pm moisturiser, I only use spf if going out the house. I’m really unsure about the other two Osmosis products. Infact I’m unsure about growth factors full stop! because from what I read only beauty bloggers bang on about how wonderfully they are for the skin but where is the research behind the proof that they actually work. A lot of ppl see these videos promoting products and expensive ones at that and make us feel that we need that in our life...it’s very confusing and we could be wasting so much money on nothing. I think for now I will stick to what I am using and order the level 4 only. As for peptide serum I would love to find one so will continue my search as none of the ones shown on this video really seem to cut it for me. As for growth factors...hmmm🤔 not sure at all about this so will not spend 💰
Hi Nadine great video . Am using the ordinary buffet and niacinamide can I mix these 2 together in my hand to apply or am I best to do them 1 and 1? Thanks x
I use both of those as well. I think it is personal preference. I like using Niacinamide first, in the am, followed by Vit. C, sunscreen and then primer. Niacinamide tightens my pores under makeup - win! Buffet I use after dermarolling in in the evening.
Thanks! I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate them. I cleanse once at night due to oily skin. I use Tarte's Knockout Tingling Treatment nightly (exfoliation & niacinamide). I'm working on increasing the # of nights I use Retin-A & on the nights I don't use it I use a vit c serum. The Ordinary now recommends that we don't use peptides in conjunction with any acids. It looks like I'd need to have nights when I don't use Knockout, Retin-A, or vit c in order to use peptides OR wash my face in the am to get a separate additional circumstance to use the peptides. Any thoughts? Thanks again!
Hi Nadine, great vlogs, I really enjoy them and have completely changed my am and pm routines in the last few months. Can you tell me is it ok to use the ordinary vitamin C and then the Indeed Retinol on the same night or would you alternate them??
Thank you Nadine for your informative video. I used to love the Halo powder by Smashbox which I was advised at the time had a mix of multiple peptides. They have since stopped producing this product though have replaced it with their Halo liquid foundation. I am unsure how much peptide they have included in this preparation. I have not tried it as I struggle with liquid foundations... They seems to deposit some solid on my skin... Possibly due to silicone. Wondering if you might be able to shed some light. Thank you and all the best!
There's a cosmic line called Hydropeptides, one of my cosmetologist works with it and I tested their eye creams and moisturizers, loved it! They are available online
I love the mario badescu peptide renewal serum aud$65/£38 but we no longer get it here in Australia and I miss it.It is a clear moisturising but not greasy serum. I'm not sure how active the ingredients are but I felt it worked for me. Im on my second bottle of the ordinary buffet and third bottle of matrixyl but I give up. I felt they did nothing but provide a surface hydration. Can't say I didn't give it a go. Maybe I'll try the Olay serums.
@J Crash For someone who acts as if he's educated you sure make an assumption regarding me based on what evidence? Lol! You're funny. I'm educated, read studies, know how to read them (that's a big deal), & don't just listen to some dude shit talking on YT. I've also started watching a few of her videos & haven't seen the bs. She gives information & then we decide what if anything we want to do with it. It's akin to the retinol thing. You can choose to use prescription Trentinoin based on more/longer studies or choose an otc derivative & hope for more positive research to come out. Now, there are some situations where you can't get the best type or even good studies like with nutrition. That makes getting to the truth more difficult. As far as Dr. Dray being anorexic/bullemic I hope she gets healthy with that. It was definitely hard to watch especially when her hair was pulled back and she was wearing a tank top. However, just because she's ill in one area it does not mean she's talking shit regarding the field she's educated in. To even elude to such a thing is just silly. Should you not see your dentist because he has clinical depression? Come on now.
@J Crash I read exactly what you wrote. "Some of the stuff she said in the past...". That was it. You didn't mention when or what. Ahh. Yet another assumption. So, if I recently started watching her you assume you've watched more because you started less recently than me. Seems like you want a pissing contest. Sorry, but I give no shits about ego. So if she truly made a mistake somewhere, if she did, then everything is shit talk? Really? 🙄 Oh &, because you can't stop yourself, you do that ass thing again. I believe all doctors. Are you part of the regressive radical left because you speak pretty black or white. Yeah. I've lost lots of weight & gained lots of health listening to nutritional advise from just doctors. Pfft. I read, listen, analyze, & digest. I take the person into account not just if he has certain degrees or not. Still, when it comes to dermatology basics I'm sure as hell not going to totally shit on a dermatologist even if 1 mistake was made & put a YT commenter on a pedestal. Lastly, you're assumptions strike again! So, a dentist with depression will fuck up your teeth, huh? Just how much do you actually know (not "think" you know) about the experts you look to or even people in your daily life? You think you know all about them, their illnesses, their thoughts, their secrets? I wish you would turn down a procedure from a highly qualified depressed dentist! This shit's getting too retarded so I'm out. For fuck's sake, man?
Nadine, you recommended to layer peptides. What else are single peptides aside Matrixyl 3000 in the Ordinary range? As for results within weeks, I started using the No 7 serum in my early 30s. Within 2 or 3 weeks' time, my husband noticed tighter skin on me (even though I had not felt I had particular problems). He started using it too. And now in the early second half of my 30s people keep guessing my age as in mid to late 20s, I do blame the no 7 for it, which up until recnetly was my only anti aging effort skin-wise. Or, peptides as you now educated me!!
I am a bit surprised no one in the UK talks about the No 7 serums? I regularly fly to the UK since Boots no longer sell internationally (booohh..)to get the product. Is Boots No 7 considered low quality or anything of that sort int he UK? Just wondering
Just found your channel and I’m LOVING all of your content! I have a quick question, are ceramides a kind of peptide or a completely different ingredient altogether?
Can I mix some of my The Ordinary skin care into one bottle? Eg. mix niacinamide and peptides/buffet into one bottle and apply them at once at night, or will it ruin the ingredients? Thanks!
This is a great question but I think only cosmetic chemists behind these products could answer it if I am not wrong. The final product should be active/effective, stabilized, emollient, absorbent and it needs lots of testing in the labs how they work together. Maybe writing to Ordinary will be the best option but curious to hear Nadine's opinion.
Agree with billy m. Part of what makes those products so affordable is that the balance of ingredients doesn't have to be so exact, as it does when there are a lot of ingredients in one formulation
Hi Nadine .. I have just purchased a peptide serum that looks really good .. have not tried it yet. It is called AGEOFF COLLAGEN-ACTIVATING-PEPTIDE-SERUM . I would like to know how to use it in my nightly routine along with retin -a or glycolic acids. I use them alternately. I use the Vit C in the morning and think peptides would best benefit me at night. Thanks for any info you can give me.
Nadine, if you use Ret-A, can u use a product with retinols in it on off Ret A days. The Paula's Choice Resist Repair Cream is packed with super ingredients, vit c also, I think. You can use that, when? I may have to listen again.
I've used Perricone products and am using them and I have to agree, they are very expensive. I'm on my second tube of the neuropeptide and second jar of Neuropeptide firming moisturizer. I keep using them waiting to see miracles but so far...not so much. I have dry skin due to Retin A so I need something rich. Is there something else you can recommend that's better. I also dermaroll...whenever I can remember.
Nadine ! absolutely love your videos can you help me please - I have been using Olay Regenerist serum for the past couple of years but the whole animal testing thing quite upsets me - which of the products would you recommend for me ? I am mid fifties with combination skin as my skin is obviously missing this product - help! Xxx
Caroline Jones it's really hard to find effective products that are cruelty free 100% - the obvious replacement is The Ordinary Buffet but even they are 15% owned by Lauder who sell in china. Now remember that beauty products are not tested on animals in the US and Europe but the selling in china is an issue for purists x fingers crossed it changes soon
My favourite product is "Mizon Peptide 500" (a Korean brand), it is a copper peptide and is about £12.00 - I can't afford Noid copper peptide - on my face as I am derma rolling and after, I also use i when I do a NuFace micro-current session. I wash with a lactic acid cleanser called Lactacyd Derma Gel soap free and it can be used on the face and body Strivectin sometimes at night but I think it is a little over rated to be honest as is the Ordinary peptide I'd rather used Rosehip oil with Frankincense oiland Helichrysum Italicum oil (“Everlasting” or “Immortal” essential oil), the latter got rid of a patch of hyperpigmentation although it did not budge a spot on my jaw which I think is deep! I discovered Helichrysum Italicum oil after seeing L'occitane on the shopping channel QVC selling their £70 face cream with this oil in it. I am on a bugget and can not afford to pay £70 on a face cream but where there's a will there is a way to get what you want without having to spend too much.
I can say the same about Mizon ampule. Currently using The ordinary Buffett. Its ok but not better than Mizon. Also used Mizon peptide ampule together with mizon peptide cream (got it for 7 euro in ebay). This is very ordinary normal cream. Have You notice that in Mizon snail product line there are plenty of peptides?
Oh thanks for the info....more Mizon products to try out. Have you tried out Lidls Cuvee serum and creams? I recently bought the serum and I think it is fantastic, I have a little sundamage on my cheek and it is fading so I am going to buy some more and maybe try the cream to, they retail for £7.99 and are only sold online. I have a NuFace microcurrent device and I usually do a bentonite face mask -mit helps conduct the microcurrent better - once a week, then use the Mizon Peptide 500, Well last night I decided to add The Ordinary Argireline Solution 10% aand the Mizon Peptide 500 together then the conductive gel on and worked away at lifting the facial muscles. This morning my fine lines around my eyes were so much improved, so this is going to be a new regime I will kepp up. The holidays are starting tomorrow at least for me I am also going do some microneedling.
Hello, Lidl serum do not know. There is Lidl in France, Ill look up if my local store has it. I just fond that Mizon blue collagen line too has peptides in it. I used them last year and liked, my friends too. I liked Mizon s venom vrinkle tox cream with 4% syn + ake, Secret key red Syn ake line was also ok and affordable. They are only ones who have toner and emulsion, eye cream was really good under makeup. Do not buy It|^s Skin Syn ake serum, it does nothing, however their White arbutin serum and propolis serums are ok. The Ordinary argireline is good too, currently using it in mornings together with serum for pores and one more serum with ginseng or propolis or centella asiatica, depending what i need. I just came for hollydays to Riga and found that supermarkets and lokal Boots type shops are full of antiage products including peptide serums produced in Russia, Belarus and Poland, really cheap. So peptides are nothing expensive and extraordinary, everybody makes them. So there is no point to pay too much just for brand name. Some years ago i was in DIY trend and was bying all those active ingredients, all those matrixils, vit C and so on and mixing with base serum or cream. To buy korean or The ordinary serum is about the same price as DIY. Now i just check ebay and other korean online sellers which has better prices and sales and buy then.
I use a special vitamin C powder that I activate with spring water. It's watery, so I'm thinking that goes first, then the HA, then the peptides. What do you think @nadine baggott ?
Okay I know this is an old vid (it's Jan 2020) but peptides are large molecules so, wouldn't we want to put them on fairly early? I do tend to put on my mesenchymal stem cell then EGF then everything else (which could be wrong). So, question, what do you think?
What about The Ordinary Buffet? It claims to be a "buffet" of peptides in a HA base. Is layering matrixyl and buffet overkill already? And what specifically are the differences of matrixyl versus other peptides?
Elisha V different peptides Work on different functions within the skin involved in wound healing - if matrixyl is included in Buffet you don’t need it x but you won’t do any harm layering them x
I'm not sure if you've spoken about it in a previous video or not - but could you talk about ceramides in skin care? The products I'm using at the moment really focus on lipids/ceramides and I'd love to hear your perspective on it. I'm currently using Rationale, it's an Australian brand it's absolutely amazing, all about anti oxidants as well as retinols, AHA/BHS ceramides etc.
I’m curious Nadine, I just purchased a couple of products from environ. One is a retinol moisturizer and one is some type of mask. Are they worth the money? They are both $100+ for each product
Brilliant....thank you Nadine (from Toronto). One question...I have always believed a vitamin C Serum is the exception to the rule as it should always go on bare skin for the biggest bang for your buck....would you agree?? XO
Leslie TH ...hey I use the vit c from timeless every single morning, I cleanse and use the Mizon Toner as this ph balances your skin ready for the vit c which is ph dependant.
Hi. Which ingredient should I choose in my moisturizer, Niacinamide or Peptide. I heard both are good. I am 40 with dehydrated skin and a lot of melasma, discoloration etc but not wrinkles. For Serum I’m already using Skinceutical CE F, besides high spf sunscreen. Thanks.
Hi Nadine, I am confused with all the different serums. Can you recommend a day and night serum (or two if layering at day and night is a good idea) for a 43 year old ageing skin. Many thanks!! Julie
Are peptides impacted by Ph? Can I layer a peptide serum directly after a leave-on AHA which is formulated at a low Ph? There are a lot of discussions re combining acids and retinols or vitamin c but I haven’t found similar information on peptides. Since peptides are the building blocks of proteins and proteins can be denatured by changes in ph (and heat), it seems possible to me that peptides could become denatured or at least less effective if applied after a product that purposely lowers the ph of skin. It has been decades since I was in a science class, so I may be missing something basic here. Thanks for another informative video.
WhatNext? It’s all bloody confusing, everyone wants to slap on every ingredient mentioned these days,,,but how many can you slap on, which order, which ones counteract with others. So many questions arise with these type of videos because not all info is provided and it leaves ppl with unanswered questions and irritated...
I know that you cant use copper peptide, argireline and Syn ake together with acids, because acids will just kill those peptides. Do not know about matrixil, egf and others.
andrabeta1971 Thanks for the response. I imagine the ph issue would be similar for all peptide bonds. I think I’d rather be safe than sorry and won’t use them after a low ph product even if it is a time saver. It’d be a shame to waste the money I spend on Peptide serums.
Can somebody pls list some names of peptides so that I know which products I’m using are peptides. Can I use them over my glycolic acid toner by the ordinary? What else can can I use them with and not use them with, would appreciate the help as I will be wasting money without realising? Many thanks
SonR R This is my dilemma as well, as you can see from this thread. I’m no expert on recognizing peptides but often the word “peptide” will be in the ingredient list. For example, matryxl syn6 is often listed as palmitoyl tripeptide-38. Also if a formula includes peptides, often it will be one of the ingredients that the manufacturer highlights in their marketing. I hope as more and more products w peptides come on the market, there will be more research performed and available to help us use them effectively.
Hi I’ve just bought matrixyl and HA from The Ordinary , you said it didn’t do much alone how can I use it or shall I even use it? I’m a bit confused with this one, I’ve ordered my retinol can’t wait to start .thanks in advance
Hi Nadine. I have a friend with cancer and she has decided she only wants to use natural skin care products without any harsh or, what could be for her, potentially harmful chemicals, because her immune system is very low at the moment. Do you have any idea of good quality natural products that still contain powerful ingredients like peptides, h.a., retinol, vitamin c etc etc? I would be very grateful if you could help, or maybe do a video on this? I think a lot of people out there would appreciate it. Many thanks Nadine, love your videos x
Firstly wish her well from me, and then go to Trilogy and check out their fab range including their rosehip oil, I really like it. But my advice wold be to avoid anything irritating which means all essential oils, heavy oils and scented products ... so not natural but for sensitive skins. x
Hi Nadine. Thanks for this video. Elemis have recently released Peptide 4 recovery night oil/ cream. Have you tried it and what is your opinion please? I'm investing in it and would love to know your thoughts. Thank you.
I've just bought The ordinary anti aging trio. The buffet, plant derived squalane and 2% retinol. should I layer them in that order with a moisturiser on top....
Hi lovely Nadine! I am using few PC products and was thinking of getting that Intensive Repair Cream but I am already using Retin A that is giving me more than fun with flaking:( Would that be too much for my obviously moody skin still not adjusted to Retin A? Are you still using Retin A? Thanks for all your informative videos!
Lipstick Konnipton, thanks a lot for commenting:) I have no clue anymore how to reduce flaking so am in search for different or additional moisturizer. Went back from 0.05% to 0.025% Retin A, reduced from once a week only (!!!) to once in 10 days....and it is still snake feeling often:( But I am persistent and will go on:) Will check now the one you suggested!
Lipstick Konnipton, thanks a lot for commenting:) I have no clue anymore how to reduce flaking so am in search for different or additional moisturizer. Went back from 0.05% to 0.025% Retin A, reduced from once a week only (!!!) to once in 10 days....and it is still snake feeling often:( But I am persistent and will go on:) Will check now the one you suggested!
Billy M - just pull back a couple of days with the retin A. Then when your skin settles, add back in ever second night and work up again. Angie from Hot and Flashy has a great Retin A video which I followed her pattern until I got up to nightly. Take a little break if your skin asks for it 💋
Hi nadine what would you say to the new clarins double serum.. Do they have all the peptides we need hence wouldn't have to use so many different products?
The only problem is that there is no evidence that they actually get into the skin and it s a very small posibility that they do penetrate the skin. So it might be and probably is a waste of money, and the only studies that have been done on peptides are on cells in a dish
Can someone please tell me- Can I layer peptides after a gycolic toner and with vit c over the top? I read somewhere they cancel each other out. I don't want my routine rendered ineffective! Thanks so much. Love your vids Nadine x
I keep coming back to the Hylamide SubQ serum, a mix of peptides, HA and plant extracts. Smells a little bit like a fish tank that needs cleaning though!
melissa pintone retin a and vitamin A derivatives stimulates collagen production. If anything, retin a will actually help thicken your skin. It's steroid creams that can thin skin (that includes E45). Hope this helps ☺️
mishido13 ...sorry your wrong. Retin a does boost collagen and thicken the dermis but it thins the outer most layer of the skin...thinning of the outer most layer which is your top layer then causes breakdown of the skins barrier.
Great videos, I think Ive gone through them all and learned so much. Only place I am a bit confused is how to layer up my serums. I've gone crazy with the ordinary and love them. Improved my skin over a day. But which order is the best? I am currently using Resveratrol 3% + Ferulic Acid 3% Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5 Salicylic Acid 2% Solution Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% and going to buy Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG Matrixyl 10% + HA Why im confused is that I have two serums from premier and one is very thick and oily but clear in its colour, while another one that is tighting your skin is milky. Is this a good combo or am I overdoing it? age 26, combo skin with some clogged poors in T zone and dry cheeks. Typical, not hydrated and therefore produces more oil. All above has helped a lot over just a few weeks. Thank you for answer
Hi Nadine, I've been using The Ordinary products and really enjoy them. I have quite a few of them as I'm aware you need to layer with The Ordinary. I just struggle to know what one to use when and with what. I have HA, Vitamin C in silicone, Retinoid 2%, Lactic Acid. I will purchase Matrixly now after watching this video, however can you pls advise what others you suggest I get, and how and when to use? Oh, I'm 46 with quite good normal to sometimes de-hydrated skin. Xx
Sharon Galloway ..I tried to use the ordinary products but dislikes all of them but anyways. The vit c you should use in mornings as it boosts your spf (I'd go for a watery serum like vit c rather than a silicone based one personally) after this the matrixyl can go on then your HA followed by moisturiser and spf. The retinol and lactic or any other treatments or acids should be use at nights only but on separate nights, don't over do it your skin won't thank you for it...introduce them slowly. The HA you should use before your moisturise goes on, you can use this day and night you can even mix a few drop in with your moisturiser. Use a very gently cleanser and toner. Hope this helps
Nadine, please help!! I've been using Retin-A 0.01% since May, 2017 , I finally got over the peeling stage and decided to add Timeless 20% VITAMIN C + E FERULIC ACID and The Ordinary's Buffet and Matrixyl 10% + HA. I'm peeling so bad that I look like I've been in a cat fight~lol!! Here's my night time routine: I wash my face with CeraVe's hydrating facial cleanser, wait 30 minutes followed by Retin-A, then Buffet and end with CeraVe PM moisturizer. Morning routine: Wash my face with CeraVe's hydrating facial cleanser, Vitamin C followed by CeraVe AM moisturizer. I use the Matrixyl every other night. What am I doing wrong???
You're irritating your skin with the vitamin C and Ferulic - stop that and then add it in once a week when your skin returns to normal and slowly build up again X the retinol basically makes you sensitive to everything X
I've also noticed when I use the vitamin C, it makes my face itch slightly. So, while sleeping I must scratch my face. I know this sounds terrible but, I wake up with small scabs. Thank you so much!! :-)
I just discovered you tonight and have already watched 6 or 7 of your videos. You’re absolutely beautiful and I appreciate your knowledge. Thank you so much. I look forward watching many more of your fantastic videos. Sending you blessings lovely Nadine. 💜🌹❤️💐💋
I wish I could use the ordinary. But it was a year ago when I purchased my first make-me-beautiful bunch of products from them and ended up with cystic acne, painful underskin bumps that took ages to heal. So Ive done my research and came to the conclusion that it has to be due to hydrogenated castor oil and/or propylene glycol. So now Im left hopeless that Ill ever find anything affordable.
czarina valente it's not about your age but the state of your skin. If you have signs of sun damage or fine lines you don't like then yes if not you don't need to start yet x
Gorgeous Nadine - would you use peptides before a retinol cream at night as well as the morning? I am an Environ AVST5 girl mostly and am using a separate retinol 0.05% at night - would I use the peptides twice? xxxxx
So informative! Thanks A LOT!!! The money factor is not always considered in recommendations, i aprecciate you give us options
Paula Valenzuela Nadine is cool because she "keeps it real!"
I recently discover her and i watch a lot of videos. Same quality, the best information! she is my new star :)
i dont mean to be offtopic but does anyone know a tool to log back into an Instagram account??
I somehow lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!
I love you're videos Nadine. You make everything so easy to understand. Thank you. You're a life saver. (Skin saver)
I use The Ordinary Buffet peptide serum mixed with their Niacinamide serum, followed by a light, fragrance-free SPF lotion in the a.m. I use their Retinol serum at night, followed by 2 drops of squalene or jojoba oil for light moisturizing overnight. I have oily skin in summer and combo in winter.
The Buffet from the Ordinary could a better choice as far as peptides are concerned because it has many peptides in it
I love he Ordinary's Buffet! :)
That is the one I use too... had hoped it was the best of the budget ones? 🙂
Marie Josee Pitre love that product too ♥️
Marie Josee Pitre Even better is the Hylamide Anti-aging Serum by Deciem. Is is more expensive than the Ordinary but it have much higher concentrations of the ingredients. Cheers!
Cool. I'll try that!
Just started my skin care regime ~ The science behind The ordinary is hard to argue with, they don't use marketing at all. I got their mineral SPF 30, Their VitC serum 30% in silicone, Their Buffet peptide serum (just loaded full of everything your skin could ever want!) My first retinol (0.2% in squaleane) and finally Their organic cold pressed rose-hip seed oil for hydration and photo damage repair. I cant wait and their prices are ..... simply perfect.
Peptides are natural biological or artificially manufactured SHORT not LONG chains of amino acid monomers linked by peptide (amide) bonds. Peptides are SHORT polymers of amino acids linked by peptide (amide) bonds.
Clarisa Patterson I love your channel. Can you please talk about peptides and recommend products in your next video.
Thank you very much for your kind comment.. I will definitely update another video about peptides..
Nadine I'm not sure why you would say 'nobody had heard of peptides'. Anyone who studied physiology or chemistry and several other sciences have long known what peptides are.
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Stu cumins I meant not heard of my twelve yr old ad mention of them - not only will all scientists know them but all skin care junkies too
You make reading glasses glamorous. 😊
Thank you, I feel the same about Perricone products in general. Liked the derma roller information and tried it a week ago. Still feeling the benefits at .2 so will wait another week or so to do again, also have the anti itch creams handy....keep up the good work loving all the information.
So informative and educational. Great video! Thank you!!!!
Thank you, really appreciate your honesty 👍⚘
I love your honesty, you are my favorite teacher here :)
Love your channel Nadine! I was wondering juwt how much serums, lotions, etc, can ones skin really absorb? Are we loading on all these products for nothing?
I think I felt in love with you when U said you will not suck up to any companies and have us buy something expensive when it doesn’t work .. yepppp where have u been all my life ? Better now than never thank you so very very much for all those Infos
I had given up on peptides. I've tried The Ordinary Buffet, a couple from Peter Thomas Roth, one each from Sanitas and Hydropeptide and a straight Synthe 6 peptide serum. I swore off peptides because it seemed like a combination of AHAs, BHAs and niacinamide in my Biologique P50 lotion, a CE Ferulic serum, a HA serum from NIOD and a Px tretinoin product were doing as much as you can do aside from a good sunscreen on 60+ skin that has seen neither a needle, a laser or a surgeon's knife. Then you had to go and do this vlog. You got me looking for something new in the peptide world I had never seen. Not sure if you can get this brand in the UK - it's Canadian, though I'm from the US. I've tried their older peptide formulations, but this one sounds interesting. I may give it a try.
www.isomers.ca/Product.aspx?Tab=Directions&ProductID=4384#
Nadine; thank you for recommending Estée Lauder's eye serum. It's divine!
I've used it for the past three nights and I've already noticed an improvement on how my eye make applies and wears 💋
I found this on the Ordinary website under the information about Matrixl: "It is best to not use Peptides in the same routine as the following products: Direct acids, LAA (L-Ascorbic Acid) and ELAA (Ethylated Ascorbic Acid). In addition, we would recommend avoiding the use of products containing copper peptides in the same routine as strong antioxidants as well as direct acids/LAA/ELAA."
I don't know if they only mean mixing peptides with "the Ordinary" acid formulations or any acids at all. I think they neutralise one another.
I wish Olay regenerist made a fragrance free, non-irritating serum and/or lotion with SPF. The creams and lotions are too perfumy and irritating.
ruth b ..I agree...so much perfume...I mean why, why do these skincare brands do this when they know it's not good for the skin, it's irritating and lastly it NOT needed in products, who wants to go to bed stinking or string scented skincare, yuk
There is an unscented Olay Regenerist available in the US. Perhaps you can find it online.
ruth b I agree. It smells dreadfull
I use peptides in my routine bc I buy into Environ’s skincare philosophy but Dr Dray says that there is little scientific evidence that says peptides in skincare are effective. She’s very evidence based and a dermatologist. For those you wanting to geek out on the science of skincare, you should check out her channel.
I have checked her out...I find her to be negeitive...about most products...I no longer watch her vids. there are other better reliable sources for knowledge...that my take-away
@@la-chicagitana9949 She, like most dermatologists and scientists, are negative about a lot of "anti-aging" products bc she's not trying to sell you things that only make a difference that is visible under a microscope with an $80+ price tag slapped on. Having an actual degree and working with skin for a living will naturally result in being skeptical and "negative" about a whole bunch of over-hyped marketing bc you've actually been in a lab and studied how skin works. I don't mean just her specifically, I constantly see these types of comments about doctors and people who have actually studied the science of these products, oh "they're negative". I guess people really don't like being told that they've been fooled into believing far too much hype. If we were to believe what skincare companies tell us we would believe in all sorts of massive exaggerations, for years they tried to tell everybody that Hyaluronic Acid is some sort of anti-aging miracle worker instead of just something that temporarily draws moisture to the top layers of our skin that makes skin look temporarily and minimally plumped. If anything I'm the most skeptical about "influencers" who are positive about most skincare ingredients while knowing little about the actual science behind it. "I tried this product for a week or two and I FELT it was doing something" is not necessarily evidence of anything, it's the same as people being given placebo pills that are supposedly medicine claiming they felt so much better immediately after taking the pill. These influencers might be more "relatable" to the average person but that doesn't make their opinions more reliable. I like people like Nadine, Labmuffin, Dr Dray and so on bc they take a pragmatic approach and delve deeper, the same can't be said for most youtubers who might be more "positive" but whose opinion carries the same weight as "I heard from my neighbour who heard from her friend that it worked for her".
Dr Dray has since done a sponsored video shilling a hand cream with peptide so she’s obviously changed her mind.
Thank you Nadine for another very informative video.. Your wonderful xx
Love your channel I have learned so much and am transforming my skin because of it! Do you think eyelash serums are effective? What is the active ingredient to look for?
You forgot The Buffet by The Ordinary. It has loads of peptides.
Can we use Paula's choice peptides and retinol cream if using retin-a?
Hey Nadine! Have you try from TIMELESS the Matrixyl S6 + Hialuronic acid? I loooove it.
You are an Encyclopaedia, Nadine. Thank you for this video. 😘😘
The brand Dermaquest is notable for it peptide complex products as well.Also, the German brand RAU (I do not know of this brand is available in the UK or US) has some products that are true peptide-bombs.The (very expensive) brand Osmosis also has some impressive peptide loaded serums!But of course the Ordinary would be a good source, and very nice to your wallet too.And... the peptide Argireline is one that CAN work instantly (for a quick fix, a night out, o.s.l.t.), for example in the product Instantly Ageless by Jeunesse.I use all of the above, with truly amazing results.Greetings from Europe, The Netherlands
Constantijn van den Hout ...hi, can you tell me the full name of the Osmosis one you mention. Thanks
I currently use 3 Osmosis Products, not all at the same time or day of course!I use Osmosis Catalyst AC-11 lever 3 DNA repair serum Osmosis Stemfactor Growth Factor serum Osmosis Renew level 4 vitamin A serum
Constantijn van den Hout ...thanks for replying. I currently use the Osmosis clarify and the correct level 3, I rotate them...can you tell me if these have the correct amount of peptides of do I need to add the products you mentioned you use? I am running out so will be placing another order but this time I will get the level 4 only so I want to know which other product to add onto my order as I need peptide serum. Can you please tell me, do you believe growth factors actually work, there is no studies that show they work, I don’t want to be wasting my money as Osmosis is very expensive and I live in the uk so I have to pay extra duty and tax costs when I order this. Many thanks x
I have to honestly tell you that I purchased the Osmosis Renew level 4 the last, before that I only had the former mentioned two Osmosis products, but now I use the OR Renew level 4 the most of the three.Sometimes I even use this one with ON TOP a retinol 1% , let's say Paula's Choice 1%,(but I also do this with my tretinoine cream 0.05%, when I think I need heavy guns that night. My skin can stand it very well, I am sure that is not the case with everybody, so take heed!As for the stemcells, or growthfactors, I am unsure, just like you are, I use this one the least, and I will not purchase that one again since I have seen better results with the Renew level 4. I do hold Osmosis in very high esteem though, and will keep on using the Renew level 4.When it somes down to the point: I always come back to my basic tretinoine, and beside that some heavily peptide loaded serums.The proof is in the pudding, isn't it? I am 58 but look at least 10 to 15 years younger... and some even think I am even younger still, and I did not look that way two years ago, that's for sure ( when I started my skincare journey, being appaled at my "sudden"" ageing head in the mirror).My credits go for the most part to the consistent use of tretinoine (did magic for my droopy upper eye lids!), but I have to emphasize that consistent use is the magical word when it comes to skin care.
Constantijn van den Hout ....I use the Spain version of tretinoin as it’s not easily accessible here in the uk. I used the 0.05% only on tues and sat nights...my skin cannot handle more than this, rest of the nights I use the Osmosis. I am 44 and ppl say I look 28 lol...I will never stop tretinoin even if it’s only once per week I will still use it. In the mornings I use the glycolic Toner from the ordinary, I then apply my Vit C by timeless and then matrixyl sinthe 6 and coq10 and ha serums which are also by timeless, then the cereve pm moisturiser, I only use spf if going out the house.
I’m really unsure about the other two Osmosis products. Infact I’m unsure about growth factors full stop! because from what I read only beauty bloggers bang on about how wonderfully they are for the skin but where is the research behind the proof that they actually work. A lot of ppl see these videos promoting products and expensive ones at that and make us feel that we need that in our life...it’s very confusing and we could be wasting so much money on nothing.
I think for now I will stick to what I am using and order the level 4 only. As for peptide serum I would love to find one so will continue my search as none of the ones shown on this video really seem to cut it for me. As for growth factors...hmmm🤔 not sure at all about this so will not spend 💰
Hi Nadine great video . Am using the ordinary buffet and niacinamide can I mix these 2 together in my hand to apply or am I best to do them 1 and 1? Thanks x
lynnjmellon You can mix them. X
Oh, ha! I just had the same question, but I want to make a bottle of mixed ingredients :P
I use both of those as well. I think it is personal preference. I like using Niacinamide first, in the am, followed by Vit. C, sunscreen and then primer. Niacinamide tightens my pores under makeup - win! Buffet I use after dermarolling in in the evening.
Thanks girls. Am finding the niacinamide pills under my foundation so hoping mixing them will help with that x
lynnjmellon I'd put my Niacinamide on first then my buffet x
Thanks! I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate them. I cleanse once at night due to oily skin. I use Tarte's Knockout Tingling Treatment nightly (exfoliation & niacinamide). I'm working on increasing the # of nights I use Retin-A & on the nights I don't use it I use a vit c serum. The Ordinary now recommends that we don't use peptides in conjunction with any acids. It looks like I'd need to have nights when I don't use Knockout, Retin-A, or vit c in order to use peptides OR wash my face in the am to get a separate additional circumstance to use the peptides. Any thoughts? Thanks again!
Thank you beautiful for another fab video! Will Paula's Choice or Environ be suitable for oily skin?
Super video! As always. Have you done something to your top lip?
Hi Nadine, great vlogs, I really enjoy them and have completely changed my am and pm routines in the last few months. Can you tell me is it ok to use the ordinary vitamin C and then the Indeed Retinol on the same night or would you alternate them??
Thank you Nadine for your informative video. I used to love the Halo powder by Smashbox which I was advised at the time had a mix of multiple peptides. They have since stopped producing this product though have replaced it with their Halo liquid foundation. I am unsure how much peptide they have included in this preparation. I have not tried it as I struggle with liquid foundations... They seems to deposit some solid on my skin... Possibly due to silicone. Wondering if you might be able to shed some light. Thank you and all the best!
Nice! I use the Alpha H Vitamin B which has cooper peptides.
Another very informative video. Thank you.
There's a cosmic line called Hydropeptides, one of my cosmetologist works with it and I tested their eye creams and moisturizers, loved it! They are available online
I love the mario badescu peptide renewal serum aud$65/£38 but we no longer get it here in Australia and I miss it.It is a clear moisturising but not greasy serum. I'm not sure how active the ingredients are but I felt it worked for me. Im on my second bottle of the ordinary buffet and third bottle of matrixyl but I give up. I felt they did nothing but provide a surface hydration. Can't say I didn't give it a go. Maybe I'll try the Olay serums.
Also, have you ever tried Nia24 moisturizer? If so, is it worth the money?
Dr Dray says that peptides are essentially ineffective other than being hydrating and have no bearing on collagen and elastin repair...
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Jane Delaney I completely agree!!
@J Crash She doesn't talk shit. She talks using scientific studies like Dr. Lim does. We then decide if we want to use the ingredient/product.
@J Crash For someone who acts as if he's educated you sure make an assumption regarding me based on what evidence? Lol! You're funny. I'm educated, read studies, know how to read them (that's a big deal), & don't just listen to some dude shit talking on YT. I've also started watching a few of her videos & haven't seen the bs. She gives information & then we decide what if anything we want to do with it. It's akin to the retinol thing. You can choose to use prescription Trentinoin based on more/longer studies or choose an otc derivative & hope for more positive research to come out.
Now, there are some situations where you can't get the best type or even good studies like with nutrition. That makes getting to the truth more difficult.
As far as Dr. Dray being anorexic/bullemic I hope she gets healthy with that. It was definitely hard to watch especially when her hair was pulled back and she was wearing a tank top. However, just because she's ill in one area it does not mean she's talking shit regarding the field she's educated in. To even elude to such a thing is just silly. Should you not see your dentist because he has clinical depression? Come on now.
@J Crash I read exactly what you wrote. "Some of the stuff she said in the past...". That was it. You didn't mention when or what.
Ahh. Yet another assumption. So, if I recently started watching her you assume you've watched more because you started less recently than me. Seems like you want a pissing contest. Sorry, but I give no shits about ego.
So if she truly made a mistake somewhere, if she did, then everything is shit talk? Really? 🙄
Oh &, because you can't stop yourself, you do that ass thing again. I believe all doctors. Are you part of the regressive radical left because you speak pretty black or white. Yeah. I've lost lots of weight & gained lots of health listening to nutritional advise from just doctors. Pfft. I read, listen, analyze, & digest. I take the person into account not just if he has certain degrees or not. Still, when it comes to dermatology basics I'm sure as hell not going to totally shit on a dermatologist even if 1 mistake was made & put a YT commenter on a pedestal.
Lastly, you're assumptions strike again! So, a dentist with depression will fuck up your teeth, huh? Just how much do you actually know (not "think" you know) about the experts you look to or even people in your daily life? You think you know all about them, their illnesses, their thoughts, their secrets? I wish you would turn down a procedure from a highly qualified depressed dentist! This shit's getting too retarded so I'm out. For fuck's sake, man?
Nadine, you recommended to layer peptides. What else are single peptides aside Matrixyl 3000 in the Ordinary range? As for results within weeks, I started using the No 7 serum in my early 30s. Within 2 or 3 weeks' time, my husband noticed tighter skin on me (even though I had not felt I had particular problems). He started using it too. And now in the early second half of my 30s people keep guessing my age as in mid to late 20s, I do blame the no 7 for it, which up until recnetly was my only anti aging effort skin-wise. Or, peptides as you now educated me!!
I am a bit surprised no one in the UK talks about the No 7 serums? I regularly fly to the UK since Boots no longer sell internationally (booohh..)to get the product. Is Boots No 7 considered low quality or anything of that sort int he UK? Just wondering
Just found your channel and I’m LOVING all of your content!
I have a quick question, are ceramides a kind of peptide or a completely different ingredient altogether?
Can I mix some of my The Ordinary skin care into one bottle? Eg. mix niacinamide and peptides/buffet into one bottle and apply them at once at night, or will it ruin the ingredients? Thanks!
Carolyn MacKinnon I had the same question
I also had the same question. It would simplify the a.m. and pm routines.
This is a great question but I think only cosmetic chemists behind these products could answer it if I am not wrong. The final product should be active/effective, stabilized, emollient, absorbent and it needs lots of testing in the labs how they work together. Maybe writing to Ordinary will be the best option but curious to hear Nadine's opinion.
Agree with billy m. Part of what makes those products so affordable is that the balance of ingredients doesn't have to be so exact, as it does when there are a lot of ingredients in one formulation
Carolyn MacKinnon I would t risk it tbh and it only takes seconds to layer them up whilst brushing your teeth x
Hi Nadine. It looks like the Perricone products have been re-branded. Do you which product is now the equivalent of the Peptide Complex?
Hi Nadine .. I have just purchased a peptide serum that looks really good .. have not tried it yet. It is called
AGEOFF COLLAGEN-ACTIVATING-PEPTIDE-SERUM . I would like to know how to use it in my nightly routine along with retin -a or glycolic acids. I use them alternately. I use the Vit C in the morning and think peptides would best benefit me at night. Thanks for any info you can give me.
Μedik8 has just brought out a peptide serum..have u used their products?
Nadine, if you use Ret-A, can u use a product with retinols in it on off Ret A days. The Paula's Choice Resist Repair Cream is packed with super ingredients, vit c also, I think. You can use that, when? I may have to listen again.
I've used Perricone products and am using them and I have to agree, they are very expensive. I'm on my second tube of the neuropeptide and second jar of Neuropeptide firming moisturizer. I keep using them waiting to see miracles but so far...not so much. I have dry skin due to Retin A so I need something rich. Is there something else you can recommend that's better. I also dermaroll...whenever I can remember.
You're amazing! So knowledgable. What do you think of the Drunk Elephant Protini Cream?
What's your opinion on copper peptides Nadine? Started using CAIS from NIOD and I'm finding it amazing!
Nadine ! absolutely love your videos can you help me please - I have been using Olay Regenerist serum for the past couple of years but the whole animal testing thing quite upsets me - which of the products would you recommend for me ? I am mid fifties with combination skin as my skin is obviously missing this product - help! Xxx
Caroline Jones it's really hard to find effective products that are cruelty free 100% - the obvious replacement is The Ordinary Buffet but even they are 15% owned by Lauder who sell in china. Now remember that beauty products are not tested on animals in the US and Europe but the selling in china is an issue for purists x fingers crossed it changes soon
My favourite product is "Mizon Peptide 500" (a Korean brand), it is a copper peptide and is about £12.00 - I can't afford Noid copper peptide - on my face as I am derma rolling and after, I also use i when I do a NuFace micro-current session. I wash with a lactic acid cleanser called Lactacyd Derma Gel soap free and it can be used on the face and body Strivectin sometimes at night but I think it is a little over rated to be honest as is the Ordinary peptide I'd rather used Rosehip oil with Frankincense oiland Helichrysum Italicum oil (“Everlasting” or “Immortal” essential oil), the latter got rid of a patch of hyperpigmentation although it did not budge a spot on my jaw which I think is deep! I discovered Helichrysum Italicum oil after seeing L'occitane on the shopping channel QVC selling their £70 face cream with this oil in it. I am on a bugget and can not afford to pay £70 on a face cream but where there's a will there is a way to get what you want without having to spend too much.
I can say the same about Mizon ampule. Currently using The ordinary Buffett. Its ok but not better than Mizon. Also used Mizon peptide ampule together with mizon peptide cream (got it for 7 euro in ebay). This is very ordinary normal cream. Have You notice that in Mizon snail product line there are plenty of peptides?
Oh thanks for the info....more Mizon products to try out. Have you tried out Lidls Cuvee serum and creams? I recently bought the serum and I think it is fantastic, I have a little sundamage on my cheek and it is fading so I am going to buy some more and maybe try the cream to, they retail for £7.99 and are only sold online. I have a NuFace microcurrent device and I usually do a bentonite face mask -mit helps conduct the microcurrent better - once a week, then use the Mizon Peptide 500, Well last night I decided to add The Ordinary Argireline Solution 10% aand the Mizon Peptide 500 together then the conductive gel on and worked away at lifting the facial muscles. This morning my fine lines around my eyes were so much improved, so this is going to be a new regime I will kepp up. The holidays are starting tomorrow at least for me I am also going do some microneedling.
Hello, Lidl serum do not know. There is Lidl in France, Ill look up if my local store has it. I just fond that Mizon blue collagen line too has peptides in it. I used them last year and liked, my friends too. I liked Mizon s venom vrinkle tox cream with 4% syn + ake, Secret key red Syn ake line was also ok and affordable. They are only ones who have toner and emulsion, eye cream was really good under makeup. Do not buy It|^s Skin Syn ake serum, it does nothing, however their White arbutin serum and propolis serums are ok. The Ordinary argireline is good too, currently using it in mornings together with serum for pores and one more serum with ginseng or propolis or centella asiatica, depending what i need.
I just came for hollydays to Riga and found that supermarkets and lokal Boots type shops are full of antiage products including peptide serums produced in Russia, Belarus and Poland, really cheap. So peptides are nothing expensive and extraordinary, everybody makes them. So there is no point to pay too much just for brand name.
Some years ago i was in DIY trend and was bying all those active ingredients, all those matrixils, vit C and so on and mixing with base serum or cream. To buy korean or The ordinary serum is about the same price as DIY.
Now i just check ebay and other korean online sellers which has better prices and sales and buy then.
I like Mizon Peptide 500 too!
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I use a special vitamin C powder that I activate with spring water. It's watery, so I'm thinking that goes first, then the HA, then the peptides. What do you think @nadine baggott ?
Okay I know this is an old vid (it's Jan 2020) but peptides are large molecules so, wouldn't we want to put them on fairly early? I do tend to put on my mesenchymal stem cell then EGF then everything else (which could be wrong). So, question, what do you think?
What do you think of Snap 8 in a good concentration,I really think it’s great 8 , Have you tried Arestline 8 ?
What about The Ordinary Buffet? It claims to be a "buffet" of peptides in a HA base.
Is layering matrixyl and buffet overkill already? And what specifically are the differences of matrixyl versus other peptides?
Elisha V different peptides Work on different functions within the skin involved in wound healing - if matrixyl is included in Buffet you don’t need it x but you won’t do any harm layering them x
I'm not sure if you've spoken about it in a previous video or not - but could you talk about ceramides in skin care? The products I'm using at the moment really focus on lipids/ceramides and I'd love to hear your perspective on it.
I'm currently using Rationale, it's an Australian brand it's absolutely amazing, all about anti oxidants as well as retinols, AHA/BHS ceramides etc.
I’m curious Nadine, I just purchased a couple of products from environ. One is a retinol moisturizer and one is some type of mask. Are they worth the money? They are both $100+ for each product
Brilliant....thank you Nadine (from Toronto). One question...I have always believed a vitamin C Serum is the exception to the rule as it should always go on bare skin for the biggest bang for your buck....would you agree?? XO
Leslie TH ...hey I use the vit c from timeless every single morning, I cleanse and use the Mizon Toner as this ph balances your skin ready for the vit c which is ph dependant.
Hi. Which ingredient should I choose in my moisturizer, Niacinamide or Peptide. I heard both are good. I am 40 with dehydrated skin and a lot of melasma, discoloration etc but not wrinkles. For Serum I’m already using Skinceutical CE F, besides high spf sunscreen. Thanks.
Hi Nadine, I am confused with all the different serums. Can you recommend a day and night serum (or two if layering at day and night is a good idea) for a 43 year old ageing skin. Many thanks!! Julie
Are peptides impacted by Ph? Can I layer a peptide serum directly after a leave-on AHA which is formulated at a low Ph? There are a lot of discussions re combining acids and retinols or vitamin c but I haven’t found similar information on peptides. Since peptides are the building blocks of proteins and proteins can be denatured by changes in ph (and heat), it seems possible to me that peptides could become denatured or at least less effective if applied after a product that purposely lowers the ph of skin. It has been decades since I was in a science class, so I may be missing something basic here. Thanks for another informative video.
WhatNext? It’s all bloody confusing, everyone wants to slap on every ingredient mentioned these days,,,but how many can you slap on, which order, which ones counteract with others. So many questions arise with these type of videos because not all info is provided and it leaves ppl with unanswered questions and irritated...
I know that you cant use copper peptide, argireline and Syn ake together with acids, because acids will just kill those peptides. Do not know about matrixil, egf and others.
andrabeta1971 Thanks for the response. I imagine the ph issue would be similar for all peptide bonds. I think I’d rather be safe than sorry and won’t use them after a low ph product even if it is a time saver. It’d be a shame to waste the money I spend on Peptide serums.
Can somebody pls list some names of peptides so that I know which products I’m using are peptides. Can I use them over my glycolic acid toner by the ordinary? What else can can I use them with and not use them with, would appreciate the help as I will be wasting money without realising? Many thanks
SonR R This is my dilemma as well, as you can see from this thread. I’m no expert on recognizing peptides but often the word “peptide” will be in the ingredient list. For example, matryxl syn6 is often listed as palmitoyl tripeptide-38. Also if a formula includes peptides, often it will be one of the ingredients that the manufacturer highlights in their marketing. I hope as more and more products w peptides come on the market, there will be more research performed and available to help us use them effectively.
Nadine, how do you feel about the Hylamide SubQ Advanced Night Serum?
Hi I’ve just bought matrixyl and HA from The Ordinary , you said it didn’t do much alone how can I use it or shall I even use it? I’m a bit confused with this one, I’ve ordered my retinol can’t wait to start .thanks in advance
Olay Regenerist range my favourite
Hi Nadine. I have a friend with cancer and she has decided she only wants to use natural skin care products without any harsh or, what could be for her, potentially harmful chemicals, because her immune system is very low at the moment. Do you have any idea of good quality natural products that still contain powerful ingredients like peptides, h.a., retinol, vitamin c etc etc? I would be very grateful if you could help, or maybe do a video on this? I think a lot of people out there would appreciate it. Many thanks Nadine, love your videos x
Jchathe I heard that Tata Harper was started for this reason. I haven’t used their products though; too pricey
Thank you Hottstepher, I will definitely look into it. Really appreciate you taking the time to reply. x
Firstly wish her well from me, and then go to Trilogy and check out their fab range including their rosehip oil, I really like it. But my advice wold be to avoid anything irritating which means all essential oils, heavy oils and scented products ... so not natural but for sensitive skins. x
pps Tata Harper is very heavy in essential oils, which for me is a red flag for sensitive skins X
Thank you Nadine for replying, I really appreciate the information and advice. I'll check out Trilogy, as you suggest. Many thanks again x
Hi Nadine. Thanks for this video. Elemis have recently released Peptide 4 recovery night oil/ cream. Have you tried it and what is your opinion please? I'm investing in it and would love to know your thoughts. Thank you.
I've just bought The ordinary anti aging trio. The buffet, plant derived squalane and 2% retinol. should I layer them in that order with a moisturiser on top....
Hi lovely Nadine! I am using few PC products and was thinking of getting that Intensive Repair Cream but I am already using Retin A that is giving me more than fun with flaking:( Would that be too much for my obviously moody skin still not adjusted to Retin A? Are you still using Retin A? Thanks for all your informative videos!
Billy M - I use the PC resist moisturiser from the light blue range over my Retin A to avoid more retinols 💋
Lipstick Konnipton, thanks a lot for commenting:) I have no clue anymore how to reduce flaking so am in search for different or additional moisturizer. Went back from 0.05% to 0.025% Retin A, reduced from once a week only (!!!) to once in 10 days....and it is still snake feeling often:( But I am persistent and will go on:) Will check now the one you suggested!
Lipstick Konnipton, thanks a lot for commenting:) I have no clue anymore how to reduce flaking so am in search for different or additional moisturizer. Went back from 0.05% to 0.025% Retin A, reduced from once a week only (!!!) to once in 10 days....and it is still snake feeling often:( But I am persistent and will go on:) Will check now the one you suggested!
Billy M - just pull back a couple of days with the retin A. Then when your skin settles, add back in ever second night and work up again. Angie from Hot and Flashy has a great Retin A video which I followed her pattern until I got up to nightly. Take a little break if your skin asks for it 💋
Oh, and I always wait 30 min for my skin to dry before I apply it, then apply moisturiser about another 30 min later. Reduces the irritation 💋
Hi nadine what would you say to the new clarins double serum.. Do they have all the peptides we need hence wouldn't have to use so many different products?
What do you think of Isomers off Evine shopping channel?
The only problem is that there is no evidence that they actually get into the skin and it s a very small posibility that they do penetrate the skin. So it might be and probably is a waste of money, and the only studies that have been done on peptides are on cells in a dish
Is the olay serum not available in usa... can't seem to find it...HELP!
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What all peptides from ordinary can I use together that u mentioned .
Can someone please tell me- Can I layer peptides after a gycolic toner and with vit c over the top? I read somewhere they cancel each other out. I don't want my routine rendered ineffective! Thanks so much. Love your vids Nadine x
Alicia Langan yes you can xxx please don’t worry
I keep coming back to the Hylamide SubQ serum, a mix of peptides, HA and plant extracts. Smells a little bit like a fish tank that needs cleaning though!
Thank you! HAve you hear of the fab five skincare? What are your thoughts on retin a? Keep hearing it cause thinning of the face overtime ??!
melissa pintone retin a and vitamin A derivatives stimulates collagen production. If anything, retin a will actually help thicken your skin. It's steroid creams that can thin skin (that includes E45). Hope this helps ☺️
melissa pintone watch Nadine's Retinol video. Its really informative and she gives really good product recommendations too.
mishido13 what kind of steroid cream?
melissa pintone as far as I'm aware, any and all steroid creams will eventually thin skin.
mishido13 ...sorry your wrong. Retin a does boost collagen and thicken the dermis but it thins the outer most layer of the skin...thinning of the outer most layer which is your top layer then causes breakdown of the skins barrier.
What opinions do people have regarding Estee Lauders ‘Night time recovery serum’?
Great videos, I think Ive gone through them all and learned so much. Only place I am a bit confused is how to layer up my serums. I've gone crazy with the ordinary and love them. Improved my skin over a day. But which order is the best? I am currently using
Resveratrol 3% + Ferulic Acid 3%
Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
Salicylic Acid 2% Solution
Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%
and going to buy
Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG
Matrixyl 10% + HA
Why im confused is that I have two serums from premier and one is very thick and oily but clear in its colour, while another one that is tighting your skin is milky.
Is this a good combo or am I overdoing it? age 26, combo skin with some clogged poors in T zone and dry cheeks. Typical, not hydrated and therefore produces more oil. All above has helped a lot over just a few weeks.
Thank you for answer
Hi Nadine
Should you use this in the morning ?
Hi Nadine, I've been using The Ordinary products and really enjoy them. I have quite a few of them as I'm aware you need to layer with The Ordinary. I just struggle to know what one to use when and with what. I have HA, Vitamin C in silicone, Retinoid 2%, Lactic Acid. I will purchase Matrixly now after watching this video, however can you pls advise what others you suggest I get, and how and when to use? Oh, I'm 46 with quite good normal to sometimes de-hydrated skin. Xx
Sharon Galloway ..I tried to use the ordinary products but dislikes all of them but anyways. The vit c you should use in mornings as it boosts your spf (I'd go for a watery serum like vit c rather than a silicone based one personally) after this the matrixyl can go on then your HA followed by moisturiser and spf.
The retinol and lactic or any other treatments or acids should be use at nights only but on separate nights, don't over do it your skin won't thank you for it...introduce them slowly.
The HA you should use before your moisturise goes on, you can use this day and night you can even mix a few drop in with your moisturiser. Use a very gently cleanser and toner. Hope this helps
SonR R Thank you so much for your reply. I do have the Skin Deva Vit C which is water based so I'll use that. 😀 x
Nadine, please help!! I've been using Retin-A 0.01% since May, 2017 , I finally got over the peeling stage and decided to add Timeless 20% VITAMIN C + E FERULIC ACID and The Ordinary's Buffet and Matrixyl 10% + HA. I'm peeling so bad that I look like I've been in a cat fight~lol!!
Here's my night time routine: I wash my face with CeraVe's hydrating facial cleanser, wait 30 minutes followed by Retin-A, then Buffet and end with CeraVe PM moisturizer.
Morning routine: Wash my face with CeraVe's hydrating facial cleanser, Vitamin C followed by CeraVe AM moisturizer.
I use the Matrixyl every other night. What am I doing wrong???
You're irritating your skin with the vitamin C and Ferulic - stop that and then add it in once a week when your skin returns to normal and slowly build up again X the retinol basically makes you sensitive to everything X
I've also noticed when I use the vitamin C, it makes my face itch slightly. So, while sleeping I must scratch my face. I know this sounds terrible but, I wake up with small scabs. Thank you so much!! :-)
I just discovered you tonight and have already watched 6 or 7 of your videos. You’re absolutely beautiful and I appreciate your knowledge. Thank you so much. I look forward watching many more of your fantastic videos. Sending you blessings lovely Nadine. 💜🌹❤️💐💋
+nadinebagott Nadine what do you think of Dr Dennis gross triple c peptide oil?
I remember that ad!!! ☺
I've tried Olay regenerist but I find the fragrance too much for me, I'll just have to stick to The Ordinary's products.
Angela Davies you can get Olay fragrance free in the US
and in Canada
What do you think about the DR. DENESE SKIN SCIENCES products?
Hello?
Best antioxidants? And when and how to her
Inuse vitamin C serum at noght can I top it with peptides?
Can it be used with retinol?
Thank you nadine, always informative.
I wish I could use the ordinary. But it was a year ago when I purchased my first make-me-beautiful bunch of products from them and ended up with cystic acne, painful underskin bumps that took ages to heal. So Ive done my research and came to the conclusion that it has to be due to hydrogenated castor oil and/or propylene glycol. So now Im left hopeless that Ill ever find anything affordable.
I have heard that acids can neutralize the peptides so shouldn't be in same product
great videos
Brilliant as always...👍👍👍
Are there any peer reivewed studies showing the efficacy of peptides?
Im 32 years old can i use advanced anti ageing products already?
czarina valente it's not about your age but the state of your skin. If you have signs of sun damage or fine lines you don't like then yes if not you don't need to start yet x
Nadine Baggott thank you😊 you are beautiful😊
What about Timeless Vitamin C
What about toners? I thought it was important to normalize ph.
Most of your links aren't working!
Gorgeous Nadine - would you use peptides before a retinol cream at night as well as the morning? I am an Environ AVST5 girl mostly and am using a separate retinol 0.05% at night - would I use the peptides twice? xxxxx
th-cam.com/video/O9WXluh3hKs/w-d-xo.html i found the ad by the way!
Aww that wasn't so bad! Not enough to be shouting "pentapeptides" down the street after someone, anyway.
You mentioned Derma Roller, what do you use on your face after using a Derma Roller?