04 and up Grant Prix-Adding an Air Intake
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- Hello all. Here is a quick video on how to change and upgrade to an air intake. It's pretty easy, but there is some key points to note and you should definitely watch this before getting started on this upgrade
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Thank you so much this is very helpful
@@ArronWard-ts2iv no problem
Congrats without a box u have a hot air intake
Wouldn't think this guy would do this. Best thing for this is stock intake with k&n filter. The oem design is made to suck in cooler air from the front of the vehicle; all you need is a less restrictive air filter such as k&n or something other than OEM air filter.
I did have a K&N filter in there at one point, but there is always something better. I won't bother bog down this comment with details of it, I have explained a lot of it in other responses lol. I do agree that while this was sufficient (and it was), it was definitely not the most efficient. I have since modified my air box with the cone inside. Why? Because I like to tinker. You can see it here.
th-cam.com/video/HiqFHagSmO4/w-d-xo.html
It had better fuel economy and better engine response vs the standard air filter, K&N filter, and the open intake like this video. And I do plan some more mods at some point when I get a chance. But it is worth a watch.
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Okay so I have a 2008 Grand Prix and there was a hose coming out of my air filter box (obviously not the intake) but my problem is I’m not sure where to connect it? I could send pics? I’m not sure and all I can find is people doing it on the 3800 supercharged. Mine is just the 3800 v6
No need to send pics. That is the air hose from the secondary air injection pump. It is not on all GPs, only models from certain emission compliant states (like California). Unfortunately, I have no experience with them since the models sold here (In Canada) did not have the secondary pump, so I am not sure where to run the hose. I even tried locating a car here, but could not find one. Very rare on the east coast in Canada.
I’ve an 07 and I’ve two hose one connected to the secondary air injection pump and I didn’t use a rubber connector I put it straight to the mass airflow sensor and it did seal on but I left the back half of the box should I take it out like you did
My GP doesn't have a secondary air pump. That only came in certain models, particularly California models or a couple of other states. Unfortunately, since I've never seen the air pump directly, I've never been able to find a good way to work with it together with the intake.
Just from reading the comments, i really like how professional and helpful you are. You respond to everyone and answer there questions the best you can. That is awesome.
Thanks Collin! I do appreciate the comment and great feedback. If it makes a difference for the viewers, I will keep on doing it :)
I can also certify that the intake mod does give the car a good boost in throttle response, and maybe a few HP. Engine gets more air because it breathes easier from the less restricting air passage, makes it sound more beefy.
Awesome, thanks for confirming, leaving input and details. I had this conversation with people, but oddly, I find CAI seems to be constantly debated. While I did not record the HP gains, the car was quicker off the line for sure and even in mid-rev acceleration. Your description is perfect!
Do you think HP gains would be noted if there was a tune done? Especially if a second "true" exaust outlet was added? To my understanding, some car adjust better than others depending on their programming.
@@Calling321 Definitely. I know they are quite a few tunes out there (Overkill was a popular one, but there is quite a few out there). The extra cold air will help with adjusted ignition timing and fuel delivery. The GPs take well to tunes, but I would not recommend it unless you get more done. The car will naturally adjust air/fuel ratio with an air intake, and for the amount of money you would spend on either a canned tune or a tuner so you can tune yourself, you will not get your moneys worth. However, once someone does a lot more (lets say performance ignition, performance exhaust, intake, etc), then a tune would really get some nice numbers from the car.
Where does the breather tub go
My box did not have the breather tube.
Hay brother can you help me out what do I do with this extra hose that was connected to box and goes down to a canister underneath I don't see you have one it was clamped on securely just wondering if it goes to something else I have an 06 Pontiac grand prix 3600
Yep, is your car from California, or another emission-strict state?
That is the air hose for the secondary air pump, which was really on Cali cars (and a few others). Many other places did not have it.
Unfortunately, that is pretty much the only part I have not encountered, simply because it is not in any Canadian GP cars, and many northern state 3800 engines in general. I have seen people install an intake with that hose, but it almost always gets a check engine light. I have not met someone personally who had a solution. So unfortunately, I could not give a solution. Your best, safest bet (if you cannot find a solution from someone else) is to either have a custom fitting made that can hook up that hose to your new Intake, or get a drop in performance filter instead.
Name of the kit?
That kit was over 10 years old. I bought it off of ebay....it was just listed as something like '04+ Grand Prix air intake'. Should be lots of options out there, but I haven't looked in a while
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Is this suitable enough to run a smaller pully or should i worry about heat from the supercharger? Im trying to reduce as much knock retardtend
I would definitely be concerned with the heat in there, especiallyat idle. If you're looking to run a more powerful build, I wouldn't recommend going this route. This is more for people just looking to add a little something extra to the car for fun.
@@NexusAuto then should i get a zzp air intake to make sure im running nothing but cold air? And should i get my 1.0 pcm after or before my pulley drop?
@hexeezy234 yeah, that's a good kit. Especially if you're looking to run a more serious build, getting a good intake kit is a good idea, and ZZPs is a great one.
If it were me, I would get 1.0 after the pulley install.
But does it give more power or lose. Looks like your adding heat which will give less power cause it's hotter in the engine bay.
I have been asked this. Especially when the car is in motion, the cool air that hits it from the gap in the hood and the opening in the fender kept it cool, and cool air was going in. Some have tried to debunk this, and it can vary by car, but where this sits, it makes a difference.
That being said, I do want to point out a few things, just for transparency.
You really do not get much HP gains from an intake. You will get a few, but not much, It really improves the response the engine makes, and gives you a bit better pick up from acceleration.
Also, while I found this better for driving, if you are sitting around in city traffic idling for long periods of time, then heat does build up in the engine bay, and you are sucking that in. So depends on you driving situation. If you dont get stuck in traffic a lot, then this has some great benefits.
Adding to that, this is still not the most efficient way. You can hone out your air box, which eliminated the idling issue and focuses the air (video here th-cam.com/video/HiqFHagSmO4/w-d-xo.html). Or getting one of those K&N filterchargers or a ZZP air box is a great bet too.
Hope this helps.
Is it good without a tune?
It'll be fine...it runs with no issue. But you're definitely not making the most out of any mod m, including an intake, without a tune.
I just got the car and I want to upgrade it but idk where to start
That's always hard to say, because it all depends on how far you want to go. For me, the first 'cosmetic ' upgrade was improving the audio system, and for performance, it was the 'performance trifecta', which is brakes, suspension and rims/tires, and I added this intake fun. Now from there, it all depends on budget and skill level. Good news is that there is so many parts available for this car to upgrade, lots of good choices. And it is fairly easy to work on too.
My grand prix is over 100000 miles would it be worth upgrading it at this point in its life
Generally, I always say you can upgrade a car at any point, at any mileage, at any time. But the one thing I would also advise of is that as these cars (or any cars for that matter) get up in age, you'll need money to also maintain while upgrading. And sometimes an upgrade will lead to a repair later on (for example, lowering the car may put pressure on control arms or driveshafts). Worth noting that I didn't really start upgrading my grand prix until it had about 150000kms, which is pretty close to 100000 miles. And I still have it and it still runs beautifully.
@@NexusAuto funny you say that currently I'm changing all the fluid I just got it from my brother but he doesnt really take good care of his vehicle but also the car has been sitting for a year waiting to get the title also I am getting a red brake warning and wondering if you know what it is the brake fluid is full but I have to get that fixed to pass inspection only other thing I can think of is the brake line
@@treywhatishappening8015 I assume you are talking about the parking brake light? Or ABS Light? I assume parking brake light, as that one also handled the brake fluid. But it also controls other things too. It can be the parking brake switch malfunction, or the parking brake not fully disengaging, or a bad brake fluid level sensor (on top of air in the brake lines). How do the brakes feel? Are they spongy or does the pedal go all the way to the ground when you step on the brakes?
@@NexusAuto both are on the ABS is just the sensor but the brakes are spongy
@@treywhatishappening8015 to be safe, I would say to bleed the brakes. But if that is not the fix, see my list of stuff in the last comment. It can be any of those things. I know if the ebrake sensor gets corrosion on it, it will stop reading and give an error. So check that as well
The problem is if you hook up a scanner your intake temps raised 50 degrees. You can gut that airbox and use the same filter. Have better velocity and temps.
hey someone who gets it!!!!
@@Evillt1 yup that's also why lots of these cause power loss.
What air intake would you recommend for a 2008 Grand Prix v6 base model no steering wheel controls
Depends on what you are looking for, and of course, budget.
The one like in this video is very budget friendly, but not as efficient as more expensive ones.
You can also modify the existing air box and allow for more air to go into the engine.
And then there is full intake systems, which are very efficient and give better low end response, but cost a lot.
All work fine, but the more you pay, the better it is. I had them all, and the more time and money that went in, the more effective it was. But even the one in this video, which was a no name cone and intake tube, worked pretty well.
awesome video thankyou i have an 06 gt and decided a better intake could probably be quite beneficial to the super charger and this video was perfect! dont wanna spend to much or go to crazy just for better air flow and this video answered all my questions
After going over my new short ram air intake. I installed the new air filter on to the MAF and gave it a run. I noticed a difference in sound but I'm not so sure in performance or if I made my car ran cooler. The idea of having it exposed to heat from the engine bothers me. I popped the hood and everything seemed hot. I was thinking of converting the stock air box to fit with my new air filter or just end up buying a heat shield.
It is hard to say what you will be getting HP wise, but there should be some improvement. I got gains both in MPG and HP but making this change, not to mention fuel economy. But a few things to point out for you. /////1. I actually have a video on what I did to convert the air box to accept the cone. You can take a look (self promotion complete lol)/////2. The engine heat can be an issue, but it is minimal at best. Some people ripped me on this video for it. There is NO DOUBT that having a heat shield, the stock air box, or one of those filtercharger kits would be an improvement. However, it is worth pointing out the stock GPs 3.8L non supercharged were rated at new for combined 21 MPG at best. Before work started o my car, it was getting a decent combined 19 MPG. Currently, with all the mods and changes, I am getting 22 MPG on my 05, which is very good. /////3. I was getting 21 MPG before changing the stock air box. The reason is the filter sits off to the side, and when driving, cold air is blowing in from near the headlight(which is what feeds the stock system). After a highway drive, if you feel your cone, it should be cool(mine was). Even city driving, the cone would never get as hot as the engine, as the heat just wouldn't permeate enough to affect the intake. I had better pickup, improved fuel economy(like half an MPG lol) and smoother idle. /////4. that said, getting a heat shield/filtercharger/convert air box. It will still be an improvement, regardless of how well this set up works. /////5. You said yours is a short ram air intake. Is yours shorter than the one in my car? That would make a big difference vs my set up. /////Thanks again for watching. Definitely appreciate it.
Nexus Auto Yes it's a short ram. But for some reason the pipe it came with that's supposed to go connected between the throttle body and MAF wasn't set for my engine only do to there being an extra hole for god knows what. So what I did was simply attach the new air filter onto the MAF the way you did yours. Except mine I didn't use a straight pipe between the air filter and MAF just the filter with a coupler onto the MAF. I'm not sure air was being sucked in at it's full potential I seen other videos where air is quite loud being sucked into the AI. The radiator hose gets really hot and that's what bothers me of the heat getting to the AI. Thanks for the reply greatly appreciated!
No problem, at all. I can see what you're saying, with the filter being a bit closer. Not only are you closer to the rad hose, but to the exhaust manifold that runs by the block, which is where a lot of the heat come from. Even with my set up, there is no doubt that it would be sucking up some hot air, just that it was being offset with the cold air especially when driving. however, you are closer to hot components + further away from that spot where the cold air comes up. There is no doubt that it will be sucking up as much air as possible, but its the type of air for sure. I will tell you the cone makes a huge difference in sound too. I have this no name aftermarket one that came with the kit, and sounded ok...performed ok as well. But when I got rid of that and when to the current K&N cone, it sounded better and performed smoother too. So the cone makes a difference. I agree with your thoughts though...it may be a good idea to invest in some type of heat shield.
Nexus Auto Just an update I managed to get my New Air intake installed correctly along with some miner tweaks and it sounds louder and has better throttle response! The air filter is working the way it supposed to now I hear the suction when reving the engine. I hope to do more projects on my GP in the future. :)
awesome news! Glad everything worked out and the car is running much better now. :)
It absolutely did, actually. It depends on how you drive, because the sound of the intake makes you want to push the car harder lol. But if you dont change your driving habits, it actually saved me about 10-15% on my fuel use versus the old factory filter.
Nexus Auto my air injection pump would not let me install the intake, any tips?
Hmmmm, that is a tricky one, as you need to have the air box there. The only thing I can say to try, is this video here. th-cam.com/video/HiqFHagSmO4/w-d-xo.html
In the video, I converted the air box to work with a Cold Air Intake. It is my current set up on the car. The only difference for you is you would probably want to put a small mesh over the opening in the air box for the Air Pump, as the cone inside will not be able to protect it from contaminants, as a standard air filter would. Other than that, this may work for you.
Dude why didn't you spend the extra $30 on a cheap heat shield, the video was amazing and very helpful, but your intake is right by the exoust defeating the purpose of the cold air intake because now I sucking in hot air from the exoust and the engine
It was my next intent, but I ultimately honed out my air box and made that work (which has been great). FYI, because it is offset, away from the engine, and not overtop, and but the intake duct in the left fender, this does not get as hot as people think it does. My intake was indeed a few degrees cooler than stock. However, in downtown stop and go traffic, it did get a few degrees hotter. But the additional air volume being pulled more than compensated. I had many debates with others on this. Some cars, it is a terrible idea, but this was...ok. It definitely could be better (making a heat shield, reworking the air box, etc), but this was more effective than it would seem.
Oh boy I like the Grant Prix
I miss seeing urs when i looked the car up:/
Thanks so much man, this helped me so much
No problem at all. Glad to hear the video helped out
I CHANGED MINE, MINE IS SUPERCHARGED...MAKES A LOT OF NOISE WHEN YOU PUNCH HER!!!
Yep it does. It should also respond a bit quicker too. If you get a chance, check out my video on porting the air box while keeping the air intake cone. more cold air, and all contained from engine heat.
wow you went from a cold air intake to a high heat engine air intake!!!!!! great job!!!! you successfully reduced hp..throttle response!!!!
If you took the time to read some comments, I have explained this dozens of times already. I have long ago explained how I gained throttle response off of this. Main points to mention is that the cold air that would normally go into the air box now blows directly on to the filter. I had put a thermometer to it years ago and it was not even warm, not even close to air around the engine. YES, I gained throttle response from it, primarily from the cooler air that is still coming form around the lights and from where the air comes in from the fender, and for the sheer volume increase in air coming from that the old air box set up restricts. But it was not the most efficient set up for sure, it could be better. So i did modify my air box and put the cone inside (and guess what, there is a video for that too, go figure). And even then, there is more work I could do inside the fender to increase this further. But thank you for the sarcasm, it added sooooooo much. Great job! Much appreciated. Great applause.
@@NexusAuto ok buddy
@@NexusAuto hell yeah🤙🏿
Very helpful and very detailed. You made it easy for me, im no mechanic
Awesome news. Glad to hear the video was helpful
I have the 05 GP base and im changing the air intake and exhaust, how ever the exhaust is single and im trying to make it dual is the switch possible and if so what do i need
It can absolutely be done. In fact, I have done that to me GP (which started its life as an 05 base model too).
First, check this video out. I didn't show the work, as I couldn't make a video at the time of the work, but it will give you some insights. th-cam.com/video/ySIop0TmV5I/w-d-xo.html
I can tell you at minimum, you will need the Y pipe at the end, along with a driver side muffler,, the 2 rubber mounting flanges and the bracket that mounts the rubber flanges to the frame. I'll be honest, the hardest part was the mounting bracket. GM has discontinued the mounting bracket, and I could not find a single seller through any 3rd party source in the Canada or the US who had them. I ultimately had to get it from a junkyard. Getting a stock ypipe, muffler and rubber flanges are easier. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Im doing a straight pipe if I can does this change anything?
Straight pipe, as in replacing the resonator, or are you going all in and getting rid of the mufflers too?
Well my plans are chaning the cat to the maganflow high flow, and attach that to the resonator and just straight pipe from there so yea no muffs
Ah nice. It will be very oud for sure! It can still be done, but you would likely need to fabricate the metal hooks and have them welded on, so the fubber mounts can attach and hold them in place. Or get some universal exhaust hangers. That part is still the easiest part of it. You need to find a way to hang the driver side pipe, and will need to either find a bracket off of a GT/GTP, or have one made for you. Go to 8:05 in that video I tagged earlier if you want to get a better idea of the bracket I am talking about. But it can definitely be done!
Dude the point to having a cold air intake is to due away with the rubber one that u left on. The aluminum cold air intake helps to reduce the air temp because it doesn't hold heat like the rubber one that's still on it
Wont it suck in hot air from under the hood?
I get asked that often. It sits off to the side, so it doesn't suck in as much as you would think. Additionally, the sucking in hot air is only a thing at along idle. When in motion, the filter is hit with a lot of cool air coming in from various areas. When I did this years ago, I tested the filter and it was very cool afterwards. I definitely had better acceleration and better fuel economy numbers after this.
That being said, it is infinitely better to have it closed off. I eventually modded out the air box (I have a separate video for that) and it made a bigger difference. But I ran the above setup for a couple if years with no issue.
may want to take a drimle cutting disk and cut down the original box that held the ecu mod so that its flat and install over it that way it mounts naturally and you can allways take a plastic box cut to fit over it like a dome and zip in place
donald fingar it's funny you said that, actually. I posted a recent video on 're great Air box mystery...discussed what could be the differences between 04-06 and 06-08 grand prix airboxes. in that video, I mentioned coming up with some new air box ideas. what you mentioned is exactly one of the things I'm looking to do. stay tuned. thanks for the recommendation and for watching!
I'm putting my stock back air intake back on makes my engine too loud, at 3am I'm starting to hate that air sound, it really does not add horse power it just for feeling cool, I'm a adult now I like quite cars..lol
LOL nothing wrong with that. I also agree, it doesn't really add a lot of power. Maybe a couple of horses. But I do feel the car is far more responsive with the throttle then with the stock system. But it's all good. Did you get it done yet?
Nexus Auto I went to salvage yard found a Buick with the 3800, took the stock off that, and put it in my Monte carlo, fits like a glove. I'm happy it alot quieter I can sneaky up on ppl now
Haha very nice. That was pretty clever...most people dont realize how interchangeable those parts are. But now you are all set with your much quieter ride. Must be a night and day difference.
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Nexus Auto it's just my work car thats why I chose the 3800 platform, super easy to maintenance super easy to find parts, I can go to any junk yard and find anything I want.
I installed an air intake, looks to be exactly as the one you have but it does not deliver the loud horsepower which I desire unless i'm actually driving and hitting around 3500 rpms, I am now wondering where I went wrong..Help Please!
it could be a few things causing this. is you mass air sensor hooked up and in working order? also, what quality of filter did you use? believe it or not, some air fliter cones are not great quality and actually stifle the engine. check these 2 things first and get back to me if there is still an issue
Nexus Auto hey bro how do I remove my spoiler on my Grand Prix 06
04 and up**
Damn! You're right. I completely missed that. I'm going to update that now. Thanks! 👍
thank you for video and explaining every detail... very much apreciated.
Arty Delgado no problem. thanks for watching
Does this set off any codes? And would this work on a Bonneville?
It did not set off any codes in my car, and to my knowledge, no one has reported any codes. I have a few people who own 3800 series engines and no problems either. Should have no problem in a Bonneville either
Can you share your link to the intake you used
@nexus auto
@@karimmahrous4500 unfortunately the one I purchased is no longer for sale. I did buy it off of ebay, and if you search your Model Year grand prix intake, you should find some options
How do I take off my spoiler off my Grand Prix ?
If you look in the truck, you will see a bunch of screws. I think it is something like 10 or 12. I can check it when I am back at my GP. Yout just have to remove all those nuts and the spoiler will come out. You will also need to disconnect the harness for the brake light.
Can you provide me with a link to where you bought this please?
unfortunately it was a while ago, so I don't have the link anymore. but you can find it at many online parts shops and I believe Ebay too
+NexusTMPG What brand is this particular one?
The cone is Ractive, if i remember. Funny enough, I will be changing it soon, most likely to a K&N
+NexusTMPG What engine is in your grand prix
3800 V6 non-supercharged
did you car start making a ticking sound after this d.i.y? i pieced together ny intake and my 08 started making a ticking sound and the intake doesnt pull as hard as it should . any advice?
hmmm, that is a tricky one. i will tell you that I never noticed any ticks or any unusual noises from the engine. has the maf sensor failed or is it hooked up? that would be a possibility, however remote. also, is the air filter (cone) a good quality one? some are made of crappy quality and can actually stifle the engine, which can throw off the timing. that's all I can think of without seeing the car...take a look into both of those things first and let me know
+NexusTMPG. thanks ill try both of b
those. my maf is hooked up maybe its just dirty. i no my throttle body is nasty i need to clean that badly. ill try it out and see if anything changes. thanks
+unknown x sounds good. if you have any other questions, give me a shout
What site did you use for the air filter purchase?
The one in this video is from Ebay...was cheap, but ok. I have since replaced it with a K&N cone from a retail store.
*The dreaded hot air intake mod.😂*
What size adapter did you need to fit over the maf
Best to measure it to be sure, but if I remember, it was a 75mm adapter
cant use this on 07-08 different air box. k &n doesnt make one for them even
Brian U thanks for the heads up to it. I won't deny it, but can't confirm it either. I checked into it, and you are absolutely right... K&N only makes the filtercharger for 04 and 05 models. 06, 07 and 08 is not available. but the regular k&n filter is the same for all models, 04-08. also, I checked with other airbox manufacturers and they claim it is the same for all series III GPs. and on a brief visual inspecting, they factory airboxes look the same. so not sure why K&N doesn't offer it for 06-08. if there is any insights you can give, that would be awesome, because it has me stumped as to what the difference is, if any. but thank you for bringing it to my attention
can you post a video of the airbox so i can see all the hose hook ups then i can do the same and we can compare
Brian U not a bad idea. I'll see when I get a chance, I'll put together a video with the original airbox to compare
tag me in it when you do please
Brian U will do
What's the approx hp gain .?
I didn't do a dyno before-and-after, so I couldn't tell you exact numbers. I can tell you that I don't think it's much... probably no more than 5hp. However, the engine response time improved significantly, and it picked up a lot quicker because it was getting more air when needed. Also, it had a nice sound to it. Check my other video on porting the stock air box...that made even bigger improvements to response and performance
@@NexusAuto Wheres that video at?
@@mcdavidhome100 Which video? The one with the ported box? If so, this is the video for ya
th-cam.com/video/HiqFHagSmO4/w-d-xo.html
where did you get the metal for the brace to hold it up, and how did you get it bent.
the bracket was something I had laying around...it was a metal bracket/brace. i measured and bent it using a heavy duty table vise and just pulled it into shape after measuring. The table vise really helped with putting the 90 degree angles into shape. thanks for watching too!
@@NexusAuto how did you attach the brackets to the car? Were there existing holes or did you drill it?
@@CMCSS-to3to i drilled into the car, at the base of the bracket, you can see the black screw, at around the 6:32 mark.
@@NexusAuto how has the computer faired through the years?
@@CMCSS-to3to I had this set up from Oct 2013- May 2017, and never once had an issue. However, in May 2017, I decided to try something new, and ported out the OEM air box and installed the air intake inside. So the ECU went back into the air box at this time. It is still the original ECU, and it is still running great to this day.
How did you waterproof the intake? I know one problem with the design of my 08 grand prix is water can go straight up under the hood. It's terrible in winter because all the salt gets in there and starts rusting everything.
Clean work, but this coulda been WAAAAAY easier. You keep the one piece of that airbox, to use as a heatshield. You bore out the plastic hole, just big enough to have the new pipe fit right inside.
Add some heat shielding, and make it flush with the hood.
Boom.
Cold air intake that doesn't cost you $300. 😂
Well, Mr Ymous, if that is your real name (lol couldn't resist!)
To be honest, I would think this is easier. Aside from the bracket, everything just bolts together, more or less. However, your way is far more professional and efficient. Eventually, I did actually cut out my air box interior entirely and put the cone inside, making it a cold air intake, but pulling in a lot more air from the fender. I made a video on that too. Still, I have other plans for the future with the intake!
Thanks for the feedback and tips. It will help give viewers a different option and perspective!
What about the 2004 Grand Prix? You said 05 and up but how much different is the intake on a 05 vs a 04?
technically, they're not all that different. but the 04 was the previous body style with the series 2 3800, so there may be slight differences that I haven't looked into. I do believe that pretty much all the fundamentals should be the same
+NexusTMPG I have a 04 with Series 3.... are you sure?
Joseph Williams sorry I mislabelled the video. This will work on the 04 grand prix with a series 3 engine for sure. This would work no problem
97-03 is series 2 04-08 is series 3
That would be correct. Series III started 04, not 05. Thanks for the correction!
what is it three party's that you bought our two? Did you buy online or store?
i bought it online, through ebay, actually. it was 3 pieces...the black rubber flange, the metal tube and the cone. it came from one seller as a set
is it cheaper to buy the kit with all the part's? Or cheaper to buy everything piece by piece and put it together myself? Is K&N really the best or are there just as good of other filters for less price?? Your videos are very helpful. thank you::::'keep up the good work!!
no problem, and thanks for watching. if you guy the full kit, it can be upwards of $300 usd, vs this set cost about $50 USD, at the time. you can also buy everything individual, but I don't think there is a big cost savings vs this kit. There is also a lot of good filters out there, but my personal experiences with K&N have been best, so I always recommend them. however, as 10 different people, and they'll probably give you 10 different answers to this one.
Can you provide the link to the intake ?
Sorry, I cant. The one I purchased is no longer available.
Finally!!! Found the perfect video. Thank you.
Whats the name of that air intake I want to change mine
Looks like Spectre. they sell them in Auto Zone. You should be able to find something comparable on ebay, just measure the diameter size of the throttle body, and figure out what the cfm the engine in flowing. You can call a tech dept and look for the right size of a filter company.
Do you think that'll make the gas mileage any better?
Dylan Feutz no
do you have the link to the Air filter?
Reel time, unfortunately I don't anymore. i got it a while ago. most performance stores should have it, along with Ebay. thanks for watching!
+NexusTMPG Okay not a problem. thank you for posting!
+REEL TIME no problem..if you have any other questions, let me know
+REEL TIME www.protuninglab.com/04pogrpr3v6s1.html?id=140851311898
This should be it. It's a short ram kit. I believe it should come in blue as well. Hope this helped
Putting a cold air intake in an engine bay that gets hot makes no sense
The car did actually perform better than stock like this, primarily as when the car is in motion, a lot of cooler air is hitting the filter all around, and it actually does not get hot at all. However, it is pulling a bit more hot air at idle, when there is no motion, and I am still losing a lot of efficiency vs having an enclosed space...you are 100% correct there. I did gut out my air box and installed the filter inside of it a few years ago...I have a video on that too. It helped alot, but there is further mods that I want to do. Hopefully, this year.
Do it make it sound louder for the muffler wise ?
A little, it did not affect the muffler output too much. It did have a much nicer growl under the hood. The video doesn't do the sound justice. The exhaust had a slightly lowered register(growl), but no enough to really make a big deal about.
Thank you very much for this video! It solved the startup issues I was having and the car is startup up excellently now!
Awesome. Glad the video helped out. Thanks again for watching!
Can you explain this to me? What is the point of doing this? You will be taking in hot air. Am i wrong?
+ShiftCFW CSGO & Modding Videos sorry for the late reply. There is some risk(minimal) that it will be taking in hot air, but the intake points down and away from the engine. .It is really taking in air from an opening right below the driver side headlight, where a cool stream of air comes in(that fees the stock air intake). At speed, this is what feeds the system. Results have been good too,, I noticed better fuel economy, and a smoother idle(and a better sound) from the change. They also sell enclosed unit, which protect against the heat. Of course, those are better, but not as cost effective. Thanks for watching too
How to put in a ghetto quasi-CAI on the 05 GP. Stick to k&n if you
want something that looks good and gives great performance, because a
heat shield is necessary for this to work better than the stock airbox
on the GP. In fact, this ghetto-mobile may work worse than the stock
airbox. It will just suck in hot air when that hood is closed, fella,
making the engine run worse than the relatively cold air the stock
airbox brings into the intake, with most likely a reduction in mpg and
hp. Hell, you might as well have gone the cheaper Home Depot CAI
route....just google that, if you don't know what it is. It would at
least work better than this bastardized-looking setup! If you cannot
afford the k&n CAI and you don't like the look of the Home Depot
CAI, you're far better off with dropping in a k&n filter in the
stock airbox than this shitty mess you made! K&N air filters do
significantly improve airflow into the engine, and you don't have to
change them every three or four oil changes like regular air filters.
They just need a cleaning and lube every 50k miles or so. They'll last 1
million miles, because they're made of an oil-impregnated cotton
material that's very durable and lasting in that environment.
+Kit Jacke Wow and i want a Aire intake ser set up on My 1999 Pontiac GTP 2d coupe. I have the KN R filter hahaha shit was funny while I read it. soo what should I do to change my set up on my car???
Kit Jacke I honestly agree with you. I recently installed a new air intake but my car seemed to get hot under the hood more than with the stock. Plus the hot air engine a heat shield is definitely needed.
Did you notice an increase in acceleration with this installed? Cuz I just ordered mine and want to know.
Iguardwisconsin berry there is improved accelation for sure. The gains aren't huge but it's noticeable. Also had better fuel economy. Not a huge amount...about half an mpg. But it's worth noting that if your throttle body isn't clean(a common problem with the GM fly-by-wire TBs) you won't notice it as much.
Nexus Auto I cleaned my throttle body 2 weeks ago and she's sparkly clean now. Have an appointment with a mechanic on the 13th to get my air intake manifold and mass airflow sensor cleaned out. My grand prix is very slow for some reason. 0-60 in 11 sec ;'(
Riiiight. i remember now. We talked about that a few weeks back, I think. Still having loss of power huh? Something else is definitely going on there. The intake will make a difference in how the car drives, but I think only after the issue is resolved. Lower power could be a variety of things. Have you had the compression checked on the engine? How does it run? Smooth, or does it vibrate and make a lot of noise?
Nexus Auto well a mechanic is looking at it next friday but it drives smooth and doesnt make loud noises. When i start the car up it makes somewhat of a loudish rev and the rpm's are high for a few seconds then it idles down. Sometimes when I really push the car it accelerates through first gear descently but as soon as it shifts into second at 50mph its a slow climb to 60mph.
Ok let me know what the mechanic says. i am really curious now as to what is happening with you car. did you and your dad check the fuel pressure at the cylinders? I don't think the Intake Manifold would cause this type of issue...it is possible, but unlikely, and not common on GPs. However, the Mass Air Flow sensor could cause it, so that may be the culprit.
Where did you get this air intake?
Nathan Birch I bought it off of eBay. Not even sure if they still sell it as I bought and installed it 4 years ago. I have since changed the cone to a K&N cone, but other than That, it's still fully functional
Bro this is not a fender well
Yeah I know...never said it was. Sorry, not sure where the comment came in from though. Did I mention fender well in error? I am legitimately asking
engine compartment looks like shit! Have a 1999, GTP which looks totally new by comparison. Invest a little TLC guy
meh. to each their own. glad yours looks brand new.
what did you do with the secondary air injection hose? i just blocked mine off with tape and punched a few holes in it when i installed my short ram, but id like to apply a more permanent solution
Not all models came with a secondary air injection pump. if you look early on the video, you can see my air box does not have the hose. So I didn't need to do anything with it!
Did you ever figure out a solution to this?
Where does the breather filter go