Choy Lay Fut Complete Combat Theory: The Horse Stance
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Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu : Complete Combat Theory " takes a detailed look at the lessons spawned by the author's personal experience training the Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu method with one of the world's premier schools , The Ng Family Chinese Martial Arts Association . Learn the fighting concepts , strategies and progressive training methods used by the Ng Family to train practitioners to successfully utilize the traditional Chinese martial arts in the ring and on the streets
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The horse stance, over a long duration, is to strengthen your tendons and ligaments. You might not see results in a few months after the initial gain of strength has stopped but after a very long time, the tendons and ligaments will slowly strengthen and your strength gains comes in terms of internal structural power. After an even longer period of training, internal power reaches maturity and you will have great strength, even greater than weightlifting (due to physical limitations in weightlifting). That's where you start standing on poles and adding weights to your hips and thighs.
The horse stance also allows for rapid transition into pulling horse, triangle stance and cat stance. ( All of which have unique applications). I also found it useful for the training of the side kick and leg conditioning. :)
When I teach combat application of horse stance, I also like to point out that the angled bent knee from the standard CLF side position, acts as a passive defence, guarding against a quick and easy groin snapkick! Totally agree with your perspective on stance height.
Holding horse stance for 3 minutes sounds simple and it kind of is but after 5 rounds of sparring and 90minute class daam
Absolutely LOVE the combat Theory videos Sifu Childs thank you for sharing ur knowledge
Great video Sifu Chris. Greetings from a fellow Hung Sing CLF student in Vancouver Canada. Cant wait to watch the rest of your videos
So level headed and even tempered no 'CLF is be all end all" sort of vibe quite refreshing
Very valuable information. Thank you.
Holding horse stance for hours isn't for training, it's a type of Zen meditation.
definitely forces you to deal with pain
awesome good job and beautiful form at the end
Great video, sir. I was thinking of doing a similar video, but you covered everything so well I think I'll just link everyone to your vid when they ask me about this.
When you showed the sparing application, what you see is no use of the horse stance at all. Why??? The answer is simple as to why sparing looks totally different from classical form. In sparring, the short hand (small circular) punches are faster and less telegraphed than long hand (big circle) punches. This gives the attacker an advantage as the defender has less time to react. Same thing with blocks. The less distance the block has to travel the better, because of shorter times required for the defender to defeat the attack. If I try to use a horse stance and then transition to a front stance, it requires a movement of your feet and a shifting of weight. The more time it takes, the more time the defender has to react to the attack. The reason the sparring practitioners in the video start looking like boxers is because of the efficiency of it. Kung Fu forms are like an encyclopedia of technique, that also teaches biomechanics, but that encyclopedia does not provide any clue to what is most useful, or the best way to use the techniques. The practitioner needs to realize that in application, everything has to be as fast and compact as possible. Hand positions have to provide as much defense as possible. Think about where to position your non attacking hand that would provide the most defense for the opponents most likely counter. Lines of attack have to be chosen that gives the attacker as much advantage as possible. Long hand becomes short hand, big blocking movements becomes small deflections.
Changing stance is simply is too awkward and takes too much time. Standing upright in the "pocket", throwing long hand technique is suicide against someone trained to counter punch and attack holes in the defense. Yes, I'm sure people can provide examples of where this has worked against untrained, timid, drunk, or stunned opponents, but I don't think it's the most practical way to do things. What I would like to see is a video that shows how long hand (large circle) movements can be modified to short hand (small circle) technique, and when it's best to do so, or not do so. I would also like to see a video that showed that same application utilizing lateral footwork and defensive hand structure to defeat counter attacks. I guess I'll just have to go watch Freddy Roach videos for that.
The horse stance is useful, but you failed to show it's most practical usage in the video. It is best used when hooking into the opponents front leg, and then striking with the hands to throw the opponent when you sweep out his front leg (front leg of horse stance hooks and blocks opponent leg, hands perform throw). When you use it as a weight shift to throw front hand punches, you severely limit the usage of the rear hand to throw fast counter punches. It's simply too slow, and will get you in a lot of trouble against someone who knows how to counter punch.
I will apologize in advance if this comment offends anyone, but as a fan of Choy Lay Fut myself, I think it's applications could stand to be put under a more modern application framework so that they continue to be relevant. It's obvious from the sparring part of the video that even your own practitioners understand the inherent flaws in the classical technique. The big advantage of boxing is that it's followers become very proficient in a very small number of techniques and utilize them in realistic training. it's disadvantage is that it has no kicks, knees, elbows, throws, joint locks, and everything else that practical martial arts should have.
Choy li fut reminds me of Tang Soo Do.
that horse stance you do is way to high...I have never seen it so high in any traditional martial art, many other techniques would be difficult to work propperly in a real fight being so high, I know by experience, no joke, and it was in a bad way, that is why I learnt it, any way good that you explain the relevance of the technique.
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Is great to challenge urself at the end of class before cool down qigong
You practice your forms a lot but I don't see you try to use most of your moves from your form in sparring.
Actually all I use is techniques from the forms. Choy Lay Fut is based on the 10 elements, I've done videos on them in the past, all the techniques in the system including the forms are based on these concepts. You won't use all 10 every time you spar or fight as there are a lot of variables to consider. For the purpose of this video I focused on a single technique which is what was used in the short sparring clip. The other techniques can be seen in other sparring clips on my channel
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